Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Mar. 29, 2011

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 04 Apr 2011 17:30

Bugger knows all about it.

His own cousin, a terrorist was killed by the security forces in the J&K valley - he KNOWS first hand what his country and the ISI is upto.
This guy more than any other Pakistani, KNOWS exactly who is responsible for mumbai 26/11.

The shameful thing is that our own bollywood walas have given them the perfect excuse to ward that responsibility as pakistanis off -
"Keep sports and politics separate",
"Who knows who did 26/11?"
"Where is the proof?"

I hadn't realized that the world cup finalists were going to stay at the Taj in Mumbai. Imagine if the pakis had won the semi final! Somewhere there is a higher entity we call god almighty and 11 guys on earth - called the Indian cricket team which prevented the pakis from moving into the Taj lock stock and barrel.

Didn't Sachin, MS Dhoni, and Bhajji visit the NSG HQ in Manesar a few months after 26/11? They along with GG knew the significance and importance of winning in Mohali.

GOI is doing what it can, in its own confused, haphazard way to try and bring the 26/11 terrorists to some kind of justice. On this issue every citizen needs to play their part.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 04 Apr 2011 18:22

Gagan wrote:Bugger knows all about it.

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The shameful thing is that our own bollywood walas have given them the perfect excuse to ward that responsibility as pakistanis off -
"Keep sports and politics separate", "Who knows who did 26/11?"
"Where is the proof?"

That was all fine until MMS invited Groper and dus percenti to Mohali, now politics and sport have been intertwined, hence WKK's have got thier chaddi's in a twist.

Now wkk have legitamised cricket diplomacy, so both can no longer be seperated now, we can now rebutt them?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 04 Apr 2011 18:40

The bolis in pakistani Dera Ghazi Khan have captured a 14 year old soosai bummer from amongst the group who sent many Pakistanis to jannat.
As expected the young lad displays a case of full blown pakistaniyat:
Captured bomber in Pakistan vows attacks

14-year-old suicide bomber who was captured after his explosives failed to detonate was unrepentant.

”Let me go, I want to be a martyr,” he said as he was being led away, according to police officer Khalid Mahmood. ”I want to send all you policemen to hell!”

The boy, identified as Fida Hussain, was arrested at the shrine in central Pakistan shortly after Sunday’s twin suicide blasts, which killed at least 49 people and wounded 100 others.

Mahmood said both boys were apparently from North Waziristan, one of seven tribally administered areas close to Afghanistan. All those areas are militant hotspots, but North Waziristan is considered especially so. It is under virtual militant control and is home to extremists from around Pakistan and the world.

...

Mahmood said Hussain and the other attacker were at the shrine around for around one hour before striking. When Hussain’s vest failed to detonate, he threw a grenade but it exploded close to him, blowing off his hand. Police then fired at him, hitting him in his other arm.

...

His comments to policemen offer a glimpse into the level of indoctrination he had received.

”You all are accomplices of the enemies of Islam who are bent upon eliminating Islam and Muslims,” he allegedly said. ”If I get a chance, I will again strike as a suicide bomber.”

Followers of the Barelvi school of Islam, one of the two main branches of the religion in Pakistan, are most closely associated with the shrines and are seen as generally tolerant. The Deobandi school, of which the Pakistani Taliban mostly come from, regard worshipping at shrines as a deviation from Islam.

There have been at least five deadly attacks against similar shrines in Pakistan over the last two years.

While the attacks are motivated by religious differences, they also appear aimed at provoking sectarian warfare and making the government look weak because it is failing to protect the people.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 04 Apr 2011 20:13

Col Imam -> Maulana Rehman "Jaldi aa jao maine yehaan par aapke liye berth rakha hai"

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 04 Apr 2011 20:19

To the young generation

Is it possible to start a Facebook channel or whatever, where gems from the TSP can be posted?

I would love to share this link with the rest of the world:
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/pakista ... -hospitals

While bojitive news etc. is great, Facebook etc. can get you a huge amount of right eyeballs if done correctly.

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Apr 2011 20:45

An odd story in the Guardian about an incident of cannibalism in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Pakistani brothers 'dug up corpse and made it into curry'

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Apr 2011 21:00

Sunanda Datta Ray makes a very important point in his book review in Pioneer

Exploring the idea of India

...
A suave, highly Westernised Pakistani barrister I once met in the US took my breath away by claiming the Taj Mahal was Pakistani. Now, Gautam Adhikari tells us in this fine dissection of the anatomy of the Indian state that some Bangladeshis also feel that an example of Islamic art like Shah Jehan’s monument to love cannot be Indian.

Two assumptions are central to the claim. First, the socially handy theory that Muslims worldwide constitute a single community transcending national identities which enables “local peasants and fishermen who converted to Islam” (the words of another Bangladeshi Adhikari quotes) to upgrade themselves and claim fictitious ancestors of culture if not blood. Nirad C Chaudhuri speaks of a Mymensingh peasant lad saying dates, which he had never seen, were his favourite fruit! Second, that Muslims (like Sangh Parivar diehards) regard India as a Hindu — not multi-religious— country.....

Afridi's statements show the inherent belief in thse two assumptions.

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Apr 2011 21:27

Editorial in the Pioneer titled “Wages of Pakistan’s sins : Jihadis now target their patrons” on the assassination attempt targeting Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman aka Maulana Diesel:

Given Pakistan’s recent track record in assassinations, suicide bombings and deadly shootings, there is little news on these lines that, sadly, still manages to elicit a sense of shock or even surprise. …………….. Reports of suicide bombings have become so commonplace that they barely qualify as being newsworthy. Given this stark reality, it is only natural that last week’s repeated attempts to assassinate the ultra-conservative hardline leader of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam should have gone largely unnoticed and unreported. ……………..

So, forget about minorities and liberals in Pakistan, now even the fundamentalists are not safe in that country. Such are the wages of Pakistan’s sins.

The Pioneer

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 04 Apr 2011 21:34

if taliban can target one of their major patrons in the political space, a man with a proven track record of helping them, I dont think the rich landlords and army people have any cover to hide under....their sellout to america is long and varied, well known and continuing.

far more wajb-ul-katl than the learned maulana.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 04 Apr 2011 21:49

One difference is that the Maulana is exposed and out there.

The faujis are protected in the cantonments and fauji protective bubble - as long as they are in service.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 04 Apr 2011 22:00

Re: F. Rehman

SSridhar wrote:The hunter has become the hunted.

In the ensuing Darwinian competition in Pakistan among the pure, the most vicious, ruthless and unscrupulous will survive and the rest will be liquidated. So, in a way, this internal fighting in Pakistan will result in India facing increased danger. However, this is no reason to quail or to try to reverse things in Pakistan. A period of heightened danger is an unfortunately necessary phase on the way to ultimate freedom from the Paks.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 04 Apr 2011 22:00

arun wrote:An odd story in the Guardian about an incident of cannibalism in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan: Pakistani brothers 'dug up corpse and made it into curry'

I guess the nation of pa'astan and its hordes of hungry people are running out of grass.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 04 Apr 2011 22:09

...And post-Afridi "foot-in-the-mouth-fiasco", the rest of the paki cricketing community starts to Kiss up to the Indians. What are they hoping for now?

Ex-Pakistan players reserve special praise for Dhoni

Pakistan’s cricket community has praised the leadership qualities of Indian captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni and described him as the main architect of India’s World Cup win.

Former wicketkeeper-batsman Moin Khan was all praise for the Indian captain and also singled out Man of the Tournament Yuvraj Singh for his performances in the World Cup.

“I think India were rightly put down as title favourites because of their strong batting line-up. And they lived up to their favourites tag and their batsmen really came through in the last few games,” said Moin, a former captain

Pakistan’s former wicketkeeper-batsman Rashid Latif said that the Indians had shown character by winning the final

Rashid said he was happy for Tendulkar being part of a World Cup winning team.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 04 Apr 2011 22:13

^^^ The cannibalism episode should get some coverage in our DDM

anandsgh · Post by **anandsgh** » 04 Apr 2011 23:20

Nail in the coffin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... FrEIUbvAMQ

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 04 Apr 2011 23:41

anupmisra wrote: Ex-Pakistan players reserve special praise for Dhoni

Probably because of this April Fools' joke:
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-ne ... s-to-islam

Mahendra Singh Dhoni Converts to Islam.

e.g, this tweet:

Rizwanpipal RizwanUllah Khan
by majorlyprofound
@smitaprakash MS Dhoni has embraced Islam... Is it correct??????? News is flowing all over Pakistan via Text.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Apr 2011 23:58

Aayoo Loggo , saair kraaye terroist Paawkistan ki
IED Mubarak Daily orr Wazibul Qital Ailaan ki.

Deadly bombing at Pakistani bus station
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/ ... 37482.html#

suicide bomber has struck a bus station in northwest Pakistan, killing up to six people in the sixth bomb attack in Pakistan in as many days, police said.The bomb exploded in the small town of Jandol on Monday in the district of Lower Dir, 200km from the capital Islamabad. Pakistani troops fought a major offensive to expunge the Taliban from the area nearly two years ago."Six people have died," Islam Khan, a police official, said.
Sufi's targeted
Monday's bombing is the sixth in as many days. On Sunday, two suicide bombers killed 50 people, unleashing carnage at a Sufi shrine in the central province of Punjab where hundreds had gathered for a religious ceremony."We had 44 dead in our hospital. Six people died on the spot and their families took their bodies directly," Tariq Mehmood, an emergency ward official at Civil Hospital in Dera Ghazi Khan, said.That attack on the shrine of 13th century Sufi saint Ahmed Sultan, popularly known as Sakhi Sarwar, was the deadliest in Pakistan since a mosque bombing killed 68 people on November 5 in the northwest area of Darra Adam Khel.Armed groups have increasingly targeted Sufi worshippers, who follow a mystical strain of Islam, in Muslim-majority Pakistan.Police and security agencies are questioning a suspected accomplice arrested with a suicide jacket near the shrine and whom police said was injured when a grenade exploded in his hand.

vdutta · Post by **vdutta** » 05 Apr 2011 00:54

Cricket fans firing claim life in city
March 31, 2011
http://thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=13442

PESHAWAR: One staff nurse of Lady Reading Hospital (LRH) was killed in aerial firing opened by cricket fans in various parts of city as gloom and despondency was written large on the face of Peshawarites at the news of Indian victory in World Cup Semi Final 2011.

While Peshawarites were in a state of shock due to the defeat of the national team the Afghan refugees were celebrating the Indian victory and opened aerial firing and took out rallies to celebrate the occasion.

In another incident, a resident of Sethi Town area pelted stones at his TV set after the defeat of the Pakistani team and felt pain in the chest. He was taken to nearby hospital for treatment but he expired due to heart attack.

jaibhim · Post by **jaibhim** » 05 Apr 2011 01:06

It is better to be consistent with one's views. I do see a perceptible change with Mr.B.Raman's articulation over the past months. A nuanced position based on facts and analytical rigor is better than being a hawk or a part of the candle light peace activist brigade. His observations in the recent past appear to be repetitive based on the same pool of factual resources and sometimes appear to state the obvious. Why the sudden India habitat centre painter's desire for peace and harmony [ a word and the discursive practices it typifies in a phenomenological sense;that one ought use with caution because its ownership rests with a favorite of the glorious working people's commune daily in southern India as it plays melodious middle kingdom music and whose sense of moral outrage is well known]?

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 05 Apr 2011 01:15

”You all are accomplices of the enemies of Islam who are bent upon eliminating Islam and Muslims,” he allegedly said. ”If I get a chance, I will again strike as a suicide bomber.”

Simply the natural order in the land of the pure. The less pious being eliminated by the more pious, purity ever increasing.

James B · Post by **James B** » 05 Apr 2011 01:27

Gerard wrote:
”You all are accomplices of the enemies of Islam who are bent upon eliminating Islam and Muslims,” he allegedly said. ”If I get a chance, I will again strike as a suicide bomber.”
Simply the natural order in the land of the pure. The less pious being eliminated by the more pious, purity ever increasing.

TSP == The Survival of the Purest

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 05 Apr 2011 01:32

x post:

The GCC-Pakistan relationship

04.04.2011 · Posted in Afghanistan, Balochistan, Energy, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Gulf, Indian Ocean, Iran, Israel, Middle East
By The Middle East Analysis blog

Pakistan and GCC countries enjoy close bilateral relations. Although all GCC nations have fairly close relations with Pakistan, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) stands out as having the closest relations with Pakistan. Successive Saudi leaders have visited Pakistan from time to time. King Saud visited Pakistan in 1954, King Faisal in 1966 and 1974. King Khalid in 1976. Similarly, King Fahd as Crown Prince visited Pakistan in 1980 and King Abdullah went to Pakistan as Crown Prince in 1984, 1997, 1998 and 2003.

What are the fundamentals of this relationship?
What keeps the bonds strong is the significant economic aid that Pakistan enjoys, dynasties in the Arabian Gulf enjoy protection from the Pakistani military and lastly religious affinity.

Economic Aid

The First and foremost problem with Pakistan is that, it is a country that survives on economic aid to sustain the functioning of the country. If it were not for this aid, Pakistan would be close to economic collapse as was seen in the balance of payments crisis in 2008. The 2 major contributors to this are the United States and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Other GCC countries also contribute to the coffers of the Pakistani government, but none to the tune of KSA. The United States since 9/11 have contributed close to $17 billion in aid to Pakistan according to statistics recently published. In late 2009, the US Congress agreed to a package of $7.5 billion in civil aid over 5 years as well as an additional $2billion in military aid agreed in October 2010. There are no public figures to aid offered by KSA however; many have mentioned that contributions are significant – for example when oil prices reached their peak of $147, the Pakistani government had received a $300million grant from KSA in order to provide a budgetary cushion (in order to fill the fiscal gap) to the high oil prices.

In May 1998 when Pakistan was deciding whether to respond to India’s test of five nuclear weapons, the Saudis promised 50,000 barrels per day of free oil to help the Pakistanis cope with the economic sanctions that might be triggered by a counter test. The Saudi oil commitment was a key to then Prime Minster Nawaz Sharif’s decision to proceed with testing. It cushioned the subsequent U.S. and EU sanctions on Pakistan considerably. The post-1998 economic support by KSA was maintained for 3 years with deferred payments which were written off at the end of the term. In early 2008, they again agreed to deferred payments.

As one can see, Pakistan’s corrupt and security-phobic mindset squanders away its finances without investing in developmental activities and is hence highly reliant on economic aid from the US and the KSA in particular. Pakistan greatly relies on the support provided by the KSA in order to survive. Pakistan spends more money on military expenditure (estimated to be $5billion, of course Pakistan receives aid in addition to this which mostly is military) than education (estimated to be just 2.2% of GDP – i.e. $3 billion).

Military Relations

One of the major components to the Pakistani – GCC relations is military cooperation. Due to the economic situation of Pakistan, Pakistan has relied on other nations footing the bill for defence requirements. Most of the Pakistani defence requirements are provided under the guise of military aid to combat terror. However, it is acknowledged that much of the military aid is actually being diverted to being used to fund weapons purchases in order to be used against India – Former president Pervez Musharraf admitted that US military aid given to Pakistan during his tenure was used to strengthen defences against India.

What about cooperation between Pakistan and the GCC?

Pakistan has provided military aid and expertise to the kingdom for decades. It began with help to the Royal Saudi Air Force to build and pilot its first jet fighters in the 1960s. Pakistani Air Force pilots flew RSAF Lightning’s that repulsed a South Yemeni incursion into the kingdom’s southern border in 1969. In the 1970s and 1980s up to 15,000 Pakistani troops were stationed in the kingdom.

As recently as late 2009/early 2010, during the Saudi conflict with the Houthi rebels, Pakistani forces had been deployed. This author understands that Pakistani Air Force pilots were operating missions in support of Saudi forces fighting the Houthi rebels. Some unverified sources have suggested that the Pakistani Air Force were paid per mission undertaken in the conflict.

During the visit of Assistant Defence Minister of KSA Prince Khaled bin Sultan to Pakistan in 2004, a tighter military cooperation was made between the two countries. For the first time a discreet visit to Kahuta was also made. Kahuta is home to Khan Research Laboratories which houses Pakistani nuclear arms facilities.

Here are some highlights of the defence relations between the 2 countries:
- Increase in training of the number of Saudi nuclear physicists at KRL, Kahuta
- Support Pakistani defence industry by purchasing Al Khalid tanks and offering sub-contractor work for the $7billion Saudi MIKSA border protection program to Pakistani government contractors.
- Stationing of a 1000 pakistani soldiers in KSA, with the option to increase to 80,000 in the event of a major conflict.
- A joint military Command in Saudi Arabia with pre-positioned arms dumps.
- Possible integration with the Peninsula Shield in Hafr Al Bateen along with allied states such as Egypt.
- Saudi pilots will travel to Rawalpindi for training along with Pakistani Air Force pilots.
- There are persistant rumours that Pakistan acted as a conduit for nuclear capable missiles to Saudi Arabia.

Any close watchers of the region can see that Pakistan co-ordinates military purchases closely with the GCC. It is also a well known fact that Pakistani defence purchases are partly paid for by the KSA. Purchase of French Agosta submarines as well as US F-16D’s were some of the examples. This is done so that the GCC can call upon the services of the Pakistani armed forces when needed.

The author understands that Riyadh relies on Pakistani personnel to fill in gaps in personnel in the Saudi military – mainly the Air Force which flies similar aircraft to the Pakistani Air Force. The agreement is that in exchange for bankrolling Pakistani purchases of defence equipment, in return Pakistan provides some of its more experienced pilots/naval officers to be seconded to the Saudi military.

The Downsides to relations with Pakistan

It is apparent today that most major terror plots involve Pakistan in some way or form – usually training and other support. Muscat was made the target of attacks in 2007. Lashkar sympathisers in Oman had plans of targeting prominent landmarks in Muscat, among them a British Broadcasting Corporation office, the Golden Tulip Hotel, and a spa in the upmarket Nizwa area. No final operational plans were made, but Oman authorities found enough evidence to sentence suspects to life in prison. [Related Links: 1 2 3 4]

Members of the AQAP (Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula) are also known to be very active in the Af-Pak region and evidence suggests that these individuals receive support from the Pakistani ISI (Inter Services Intelligence). It is also noteworthy to remember that the head of the Al Qaeda’s military wing Brigade 313 is Ilyas Kashmiri – A former member of the Pakistani Army’s Special Services Group (SSG). A well known fact is that the Pakistani army is known to use the services of ex-servicemen for supporting jihadi/terror activities targeting India and ISAF troops (of which Bahrain and the UAE militaries also have a presence) in Afghanistan.

It is also not a coincidence that the Saudi ministry of interior recently released names of 47 most wanted terrorists, of which the majority (27) were located in the Af-Pak region. Majority of these leaders are likely to be living under protection of Taliban and their allies such as the Haqqani network. Many of these groups are armed and trained by the Pakistani military. It is also well acknowledged that the Taliban and its leadership are under the control of the ISI. A question GCC security officials need to ask themselves is, is it worth supporting a nation that continues to harbor/support individuals that are trying to topple their governments?

The GCC officials should also be reminded that one of the gravest threats they face today – the Iranian nuclear threat – was caused directly by Pakistan. Evidence has emerged that the “father of the Pakistani bomb” Abdul Qadeer Khan had sold equipment/know how in his nuclear black market to Iran. There are also indications that AQ Khan was aided and abetted by Senior Pakistani military and intelligence officials. In fact AQ Khan himself claimed that Musharraf was aware of the nuclear black market trade and approved deals.

It’s no secret that GCC officials are worried about the threat emanating from Iran as we have all read in the wikileaks episode. Again, the question needs to be asked, Is this the partner that GCC wishes to rely upon for its security?

Why is this relevant today?

Many analysts have completely missed the significance of recent high level visits from Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain to Pakistan. Prince Bandar (A royal emissary for HM King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia) had visited senior leaders in Pakistan including the Pakistani Army Chief General Ashfaq Kiyani. Sources have confirmed that Prince Bandar is said to have requested Pakistani troops to be deployed if the internal unrest continues in Yemen, Bahrain and the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia.
The Foreign Minister of Bahrain HRH Shaikh Khalid bin Ahmed bin Mohammed Al Khalifa also paid a visit to Islamabad shortly after Prince Bandar had departed for New Delhi. We expect similar discussions on security coordination to have taken place.

Conclusion

Pakistan army is being utilized as cannon fodder or mercenaries for the Gulf Kingdoms, in return Pakistan gains significant economic support that it requires for its very survival. How long will this relationship continue and also how reliable is this support if Pakistan continues to harbour or indirectly/directly support the AQAP as well as a Nuclear Iran? Is it time for the GCC to start imposing conditions on Pakistan for its continued aid?

I leave you with a quote from the book (My Life with the Taliban) of Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, Taliban regimes Ambassador to Pakistan:

”Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody. They deceive the Arabs under the guise of Islamic nuclear power, they milk America and Europe in the alliance against terrorism, and they have been deceiving Pakistani and other Muslims around the world in the name of the Kashmiri jihad.”

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 05 Apr 2011 01:46

Anujan wrote:Shahzad Chaudhry's gem: http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2011_pg3_2
The IT hubs of Bengaluru worked overtime to provide Tendulkar the escape in the Decision Referral System (DRS)

Shastri’s ‘BMW’ was as bland as the Pakistani ‘auto-rickshaw’. He had so characterised the two teams a day earlier.

abhijitm wrote:On the debris of defeat
The hallucinated pakistani was expecting shower of petals after 26/11.

Ravi Shastri, who loses his reason when the Indian team gets even a slight drubbing, compared the visitors with a rickety rickshaw, while the Indian squad, in his opinion, was a BMW.

And we witness the birth of yet another blatant lie. Now, I do not like much of what comes out of Ravi Shastri's mouth, and like most, have wished he would shut up during the matches. But I saw his exchange with Aamir Sohail or Sohail Tanveer or whatever where the autorickshaw BMW thing came up. It was the Packee who made the comparison. To which Ravi Shastri responded with the best thing he has ever said:

I don't know about that other car, I am an Audi man myself.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 05 Apr 2011 01:55

Enough of this Afridi nonsense, the man himself has apologised over the media's distortion of his statement. He meant "wart" and not "heart" and his statement was in response to a question about Shoaib's exclusion from the match against the Kufr.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 05 Apr 2011 05:05

Mahendramullah you are a Guru

I went and read his statement replacing 'heart' with 'wart' and it was hilarious, just like the 3 idiots speech...

Mahendra wrote:Enough of this Afridi nonsense, the man himself has apologised over the media's distortion of his statement. He meant "wart" and not "heart" and his statement was in response to a question about Shoaib's exclusion from the match against the Kufr.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 05 Apr 2011 05:39

And i though he missed the P in "hart" while speaking in Poaklish.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Apr 2011 05:50

Prem wrote:And i though he missed the P in "hart" while speaking in Poaklish.

Quite the opposite. In "We have a big heart", change the "b" with a "p" and there you have it.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 05 Apr 2011 06:10

Paki momin's also have way bigger farts....Since 1947
Thanks to pindi chana...

anupmisra wrote:
Prem wrote:And i though he missed the P in "hart" while speaking in Poaklish.
Quite the opposite. In "We have a big heart", change the "b" with a "p" and there you have it.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 05 Apr 2011 08:42

GDP growth for FY 2010-11 likely to be 2.8%’
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2011_pg5_1

But he said with the large-scale manufacturing sector picking up and a favourable external accounts situation, the country might see a better-than-expected economic growth in the fiscal year 2010-11, which ends on June 30. “I think at one stage we had been talking about 2.5 percentage points of GDP in real terms. I suspect it’s likely to be closer to be 2.8 now,” he said. The fiscal deficit, meanwhile, is expected at between 5.3 and 5.5 percent of GDP, though it could be wider if some of the external flows, including grants, don’t come in quickly enough, he said. The failure of the government to completely pass on the impact of higher global oil prices would also hurt revenue, he said. Pakistan raised fuel prices by up to 13 percent last week, but political parties were quick to reject the move that could stir fresh anger due to fears over sharply rising costs of living. RGST still on: Kardar, who expected yearly inflation to rise to around 15 percent by June, said he expected the country to remain in an International Monetary Fund (IMF) programme in the foreseeable future to ensure better fiscal management such as increased revenue collection and a cut in expenditure. He emphasised a reformed general sales tax programme (RGST) as agreed with the IMF, had not been shelved.

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 05 Apr 2011 09:13

Afridi retracts his remarks saying he is riled up by Gambhir's remark on mumbai attacks wrt Pakistan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13HnOxBPW70

I like India and its people, was misquoted: Shahid Afridi

Pakistan cricket captain Shahid Afridi has said that his controversial remarks about India have been taken out of context. In an exclusive interview to NDTV, Afridi said he actually loved India and its people, and he loves to play cricket here. He was quoted by Pakistani media as saying that Indians are 'not large-hearted.'

partha · Post by **partha** » 05 Apr 2011 09:22

Wait till he gives another interview to Geo and says that he never gave an interview to NDTV and that he is not the one present in the video.

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 05 Apr 2011 09:31

How is he misquoted ?

Check his video out here:

http://www.timesnow.tv/Pakistan-slams-s ... 369509.cms

Any self respecting and decent human being (provided they exist in TSP) will be more than ashamed after coming to know role of pakistan in 26/11

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 05 Apr 2011 10:11

Why is this man Afridi and his comments so important and we are gob-smacked. He is parroting what 99.99% of Pakistani believe in and prove it by their actions. Did not the other left hand Paki bowler say something on the same lines when not picked for IPL.
"One time is incident, 3rd time is a pattern and Nth time is a state of affair"
What else were we expecting from this denizen of Terrorist land. Imran used to say nasty things about India in his hey days so what is different.
It is just we who want Pakistani's to act and behave in a normal human ways cuz we still haven't understood their ways.
I still cannot find some great comment that Afridi made after the SF match that all WKK were going gaga over.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 05 Apr 2011 10:25

Why the f^&ck is so much attention given to what Jihadi Afridi said or did not say. Inda harping on his crap only re-inforces the equal equal. Gambhir played a masterly, handsome knock under supreme pressure (except for the hair-brained shot throwing his wicket away), and he showed his class in that interview with HT as well. All he said was that he dedicates India's win to the victims of 26/11. Is that so sacrilegous? And the jihadi is lying through his teeth distorting what Gambir said. Gambhir never said that India's win is revenge for 26/11 as the jihadi claims in NDTV (and actually I wish he did say that).

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 05 Apr 2011 10:27

The point is that someone like Afridi is expected to present a WKK / Neutral face and spout == in public and in media when discussing other nations, because he is an ambassador of Pakistan.

More so because these pakistani cricketers depend on India for their rozi roti.

Such a man finds it hard to not bitch about India! And this is a man who urgently needs India!

What should we expect from the average abdul in Pakistan, who is not connected to India?

What a bloody bunch of bigoted fanatics these people are.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 05 Apr 2011 10:54

VikramS wrote:To the young generation

Is it possible to start a Facebook channel or whatever, where gems from the TSP can be posted?

I would love to share this link with the rest of the world:
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/pakista ... -hospitals

While bojitive news etc. is great, Facebook etc. can get you a huge amount of right eyeballs if done correctly.

Please report here.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Apr 2011 11:09

ramana wrote:Sunanda Datta Ray makes a very important point in his book review in Pioneer
Exploring the idea of India
Two assumptions are central to the claim. First, the socially handy theory that Muslims worldwide constitute a single community transcending national identities . . . Second, that Muslims (like Sangh Parivar diehards) regard India as a Hindu — not multi-religious— country.....

Absolutely. Many Pakistanis also believe that the culture of India itself is largely Islamic, forgetting that at most Islam’s influence could have been over eight or nine centuries while Indian civilization extends several tens of centuries back. Many Pakistanis, including Jinnah, have spoken about ‘Islamic civilization’ as though any such discrete thing ever existed. This again proves that in the minds of the Pakistanis, Islam and Pakistan are synonymous and anything Islamic in Hindu India naturally “belongs” to Pakistan. It is this belief that drives them to name a Pakistani Navy destroyer as PNS Tippu Sultan, a king (1750 – 1799) from a far away Mysore in South India who fought the British and who has nothing to do with Pakistan. For the same reason, Pakistani clerics associate any perceived “moral decadence” such as music, dance, drama and films in Pakistan as a bad influence from India and un-Islamic.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 05 Apr 2011 11:29

CRams, Rainaji et. al.:

Outside BR they are very few people who understand the true nature of TSP and TSPian. The WC has given an opportunity for the average desi to see the true face of these creatures. I rarely post on kitab-e-chera but made it a point to post a link to Afridi cousin news after his nafarat interview. Then when the word about small hearted Indians was posted, an old mate from colllege commented that Afridi cousin's is a terrorist who was killed a few months ago. I did not bother to correct him or point him to the link since what are a few months-years between friends

. But the point is that the mango Shining Indian needs to know the true face of what India faces and not just the UnDTV version.

I personally am quite excited to see the discussion being generated by Afridi. It is making the job of WKKs much harder. I am also hoping that this period can be used to kindle some interest in the mango Shining Indian about TSP affairs. The younger generation has no puppi-jhappi pretensions; it is time for them to tighten the screws. The more India ignores TSP and the more Indians realize that TSP is not just like India, the better it would be.

It would be wonderful if a sanitized version of bojitive news channel could be created on Facebook. Right now the interest is high so it would be easy to get viewership.

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 05 Apr 2011 11:37

Afridi was portrayed by WKK/NDTV clowns as 'Gracious', 'Good Sportsman' after his post-match speech at Mohali. Then his impromptu 'Why hate India?' presser after he landed in Pakistan gave the WKK/NDTV brigade multiple orgasms. They went overboard and started 'Cricket Diplomacy' has worked propaganda. Afridi was their hero.

After his rambling about 'Pakistanis Muslims having bigger Warts', NDTV/WKK were shell-shocked ... There was good reaction from other Media channels, and they showed the Afridi's video.

NDTV quickly arranged for damage control, and promptly Afridi put his other foot in the mouth.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 05 Apr 2011 11:40

Yes naming that frigate after Tipu Sultan thing is funny.

I remember the Afghans chiding the Pakistanis not to name their missiles after Afghans, they really shamed the pakistanis.

But the zealots in la la land, anything related to islam has to be copyrighted to them.

It is immature and blinkered to the extreme.