Two-G (2G) Spectrum Scam Tapes and follow-up

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 07 Apr 2011 12:22

Chinmayanand wrote:Former telecom minister A Raja's nephew dies at gym

Deepak (30), a nephew of former Union minister A Raja, died reportedly of cardiac arrest while working out at a gym in Alwarpet on Wednesday, police said. Police have not registered a case.

CBI, investigating the 2G spectrum case, had raided his house along with those of Raja and his associate Sadhick Batcha in December 2010. Batcha was found hanging in his Chennai residence on March 17, 2011.

Deepak (30), an engineer working with a private company in Chennai had gone to the gym on TTK Road in Alwarpet on Wednesday. While working out, he complained of chest pain to the instructor. He was advised rest and was rushed to a nearby hospital. Doctors declared him 'brought dead'.
I think all the evidence is being drugged to death. Jai ho Manmohanji , Jai ho Soniaji.

This is even better than a movie, somebody gets sucided now anther key witness gets Heart Attacked, this homcide engineering is getting better every day, what next some suddenly dies of unexplained Brian Failure?

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 Apr 2011 17:45

Lokpal Bill: Forces issued gag order
Headlines Today Bureau | New Delhi, April 7, 2011 | 16:31

The Defence Ministry has ordered its top commanders to communicate to their rank and file that no officer or jawan should express any view on Anna Hazare's protest against Corruption.

Sources have told Headlines Today that Defence Minister A.K. Antony has made it clear that he does not want any senior generals talking out of turn and taking a stand on such an issue in public.

Defence veterans have shown solidarity with Hazare, who is on a fast unto death at Delhi's Jantar Mantar over the Lokpal Bill issue.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story ... order.html

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 07 Apr 2011 17:55

This Anna Hazare fast will turn out for the better finally...Indian democracy, with free press and all of that, wil not allow the govt to get away with anything short of a very very acceptable compromise...I foresee the joint govt-civil society committee to happen sooner rather than later, which will all be for the good...

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 Apr 2011 19:05

Huge numbers are gathering at India Gate and Jantar Mantar. Quite amazing to see the passion. Timesnow.tv live feed is at http://live.indiatimes.com/.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 07 Apr 2011 19:19

Chinmayanand wrote:Former telecom minister A Raja's nephew dies at gym

Deepak (30), a nephew of former Union minister A Raja, died reportedly of cardiac arrest while working out at a gym in Alwarpet on Wednesday, police said. Police have not registered a case.

CBI, investigating the 2G spectrum case, had raided his house along with those of Raja and his associate Sadhick Batcha in December 2010. Batcha was found hanging in his Chennai residence on March 17, 2011.

Deepak (30), an engineer working with a private company in Chennai had gone to the gym on TTK Road in Alwarpet on Wednesday. While working out, he complained of chest pain to the instructor. He was advised rest and was rushed to a nearby hospital. Doctors declared him 'brought dead'.
I think all the evidence is being drugged to death. Jai ho Manmohanji , Jai ho Soniaji.

Reminds me of how all the in-laws of Priyanka died one by one. The sister-in-law is the first one to croak in a car accident. The brother-in-law was murdered. The father-in-law was first claimed to be murdered but then the story changed to suicide because of severe pain. The only one that was left in that family is the husband and his Scottish mother who are partners in a lot of real estate companies ad who get unsecured loans from every private business.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 07 Apr 2011 20:35

The corruption jugernaut has gotten nauseatingly brazen. The rot starts at the top and has to be nipped first there.

Is it only now or was it always this bad and we just never knew about these things? Just wondering only.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 07 Apr 2011 20:49

^ Rahul Mehta single handedly brought this topic to this forum. Now he is prove correct that every foreseeable thread in BRF is linked to corruption.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 07 Apr 2011 21:49

somnath wrote:This Anna Hazare fast will turn out for the better finally...Indian democracy, with free press and all of that, wil not allow the govt to get away with anything short of a very very acceptable compromise...I foresee the joint govt-civil society committee to happen sooner rather than later, which will all be for the good...

Hazare is showing Indian democracy is a failure, because if it was working, then the elected representatives should have been able to give voice to people's aspirations.

I suspect it will go beyond Lok Pal bill eventually, and a whole slew of electoral reforms will be needed to ensure people are represented fairly in Indian democracy.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 07 Apr 2011 22:20

x-post from GDF Hazare thread:

Rahul M wrote:times now had a pretty good panel on this yesterday. harish salve and soli sorabjee were on it. both, while very supportive of the general aspects of this movement came down hard on the current draft (salve was dismissive of the UPA draft, he refused to discuss it at all calling it was a waste of time) saying that it gives the lokpal unprecedented powers and it will end up subverting democracy and anti-development.

It's true that the bill allows the Lok Pal to look into grievances over "mal-administration". That is rather subjective. It would be better to restrict the scope to corruption. Other than that I cannot see anything particularly objectionable.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 07 Apr 2011 22:22

vera_k wrote:
somnath wrote:This Anna Hazare fast will turn out for the better finally...Indian democracy, with free press and all of that, wil not allow the govt to get away with anything short of a very very acceptable compromise...I foresee the joint govt-civil society committee to happen sooner rather than later, which will all be for the good...
Hazare is showing Indian democracy is a failure, because if it was working, then the elected representatives should have been able to give voice to people's aspirations.

I suspect it will go beyond Lok Pal bill eventually, and a whole slew of electoral reforms will be needed to ensure people are represented fairly in Indian democracy.

Yes.. a progress report kinda thing for all elected representatives...if failed...recall the elec. rep ....many movies have mentioned this concept.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2011 00:56

TADA ... The dead nephew Deepak was questioned by CBI. He is the Director of Raja's company.

http://politicsparty.com/spectrum_scam.php

WOW! I can't believe how the SCUMS of UPA are getting away with open murders. If this was like BJP Govt., the COMMIES, MAFIA media and their traitors would have petitioned UN or US President to intervene by now.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 08 Apr 2011 02:56

Can anyone who has followed the 2G scam & investigations exhaustively, make up a chart (on powerpoint) showing who all were the loose ends & how they are being taken care of? It might take a couple of hours but it will be good to share it over FB & Scribd etc.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 08 Apr 2011 03:07

You want to tip off the scamsters as to who is next?

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 08 Apr 2011 06:53

Will raja's number come ? next variety would be accident on highway

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 08 Apr 2011 07:04

The MO is CBI quizzes a suspect. And claims they are ready to make him approver. To do this they have to bring him to Delhi! And they guy gets accidented/suicided/or hear attacked. It doesn't occur to them they need to provide protection to potential witnesses or record the statement without bringing to Delhi. Its like a visit from messenger of death like in movies.
Anyone on CBI list will get killed in the 2G scam.

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 08 Apr 2011 07:19

vera_k wrote: Hazare is showing Indian democracy is a failure, because if it was working, then the elected representatives should have been able to give voice to people's aspirations.

I suspect it will go beyond Lok Pal bill eventually, and a whole slew of electoral reforms will be needed to ensure people are represented fairly in Indian democracy.

In an ideal world, politicians will all be honest..But the world isnt ideal..And bove all, democracy isnt about elections only..It is about a deeper engagement of the citizen with the process of governance...Anna Hazare's fast shows that up in its finest...Here is a concerned citizen using the full might of his moral authority to agitate..There are enough citizens to rally behind him..And a media that reflects the opinion of the citizens (as also the impractical nature of the Jan Lokpal Bill)...And a govt forced to negotiate with the civil society...This is democracy not at ts height (at its height all of this would have been possible without an agitation and fast), but at least a democracy that is working and alive...

BTW, the janlokpal bill draft makes really little sense.From appointment to jurisdiction to coverage - its too sweeping..the LokPal is supposed to be an Ombudsman, not a solution to all ills of the country...Harish Salve is right - the current bill too is a waste of time...the philosophy behind it isnt...I would say that the best way forward now would be for either MMS (or SG, or at least Pranab Mukherjee) to come to Jantar Mantar, get the good anna to break his fast, and pronto start the work on a new draft....that would signal a great end to the matter, one that enriches India's democracy...

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 08 Apr 2011 07:28

At the scale at which people are going up looks like CBI would have to shift the court from Delhi to up or have a video conferencing setup. Some big mouthed opposition spokesman preferably non BJP(because BJP voice anyways is not picked up by DDM) should bring this up on TV

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 08 Apr 2011 09:52

somnath wrote:
BTW, the janlokpal bill draft makes really little sense.From appointment to jurisdiction to coverage - its too sweeping..the LokPal is supposed to be an Ombudsman, not a solution to all ills of the country...Harish Salve is right - it is a waste of time...the philosophy behind it isnt...I would say that the best way forward now would be for either MMS (or SG, or at least Pranab Mukherjee) to come to Jantar Mantar, get the good anna to break his fast, and pronto start the work on a new draft....that would signal a great end to the matter, one that enriches India's democracy...

Please don't misquote Salve. He said that it is the GoI version that is a waste of time.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 08 Apr 2011 09:55

The National Advisory Council (NAC) Working Group on Transparency and Accountability, headed by Aruna Roy, has strong reservations about several provisions of the Jan Lokpal Bill that is being pushed by another group of activists outside the NAC.

The NAC Working Group is already seized of the Lokpal Bill, and the Council and what appears to be its shadow council — the joint committee — are now set to come out with two different drafts of the legislation.

Several civil rights champions told The Indian Express that they had stayed away from Hazare’s fast because it had been “hijacked” by activists like Arvind Kejriwal, who had met yoga guru Baba Ramdev at least twice in the past few weeks to discuss the proposed law.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/upa-p ... ot/773284/

Hazare causing takleef to "civil society" types because Kejriwal met the "kommunal" Baba Ramdev.

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 08 Apr 2011 09:58

Pranav wrote:Please don't misquote Salve. He said that it is the GoI version that is a waste of time.

Inadvertant - corrected it out..

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 08 Apr 2011 10:00

x-post from GDF Hazare thread:

Taking a step back and looking at this philosophically:

[1] It is clear that the political class (including the Legislature and the Executive which is drawn from the Legislature) does not want to act against the Neta-Babu-Judiciary nexus.

[2] The use of EVMs is under a cloud and as of now there is a committee looking into the possibility of a paper trail. So let us not take it for granted that our democracy is functional.

[3] Given the situation in [1], there is need for an independent body which can investigate and prosecute on the basis of complaints from the public, and also suo-moto.

[4] This body will need to have the power of summoning witnesses, taking testimony under oath, requiring the production of documents, search, seizure, and prosecution. All these powers already exist with the political class, in the form of the police and parliamentary committees. In fact the Jan Lok Pal bill does not contemplate the power of custodial interrogation, which the Executive enjoys through the police.

[5] One of the criticisms is that the scope is too broad. I would say that the term "mal-administration" needs to be properly defined. For example, the Lok Pal should be able to act against individuals like Prithviraj Chauhan, who were responsible for bungling in the case of the appointment of the tainted CVC Thomas. But the Lok Pal should not be able to take over normal governance.

[6] Also, the Lok Pal should not have the power to modify contracts or blacklist firms. However, if the Lok Pal feels that such steps should be taken, then it should be free to argue for the same in a fast-track Court.

[7] The appointment of the Lok Pal members is an important issue. Direct election should be considered (however EVMs should not be used).

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Be that as it may, I would say that the need of the hour is to support the reasonable demand that Hazare & his supporters should have a voice on the drafting committee. Other details can be worked out later.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 08 Apr 2011 10:28

'Credibility of Pawar has reached nadir'

MUMBAI: NCP founder president and agriculture minister Sharad Pawar's credibility has been adversely affected following anti-corruption crusader Anna Hazare's attack on him and senior BJP leader Eknath Khadse's attempt to establish his links with builder Shahid Balwa, one of the main accused in the multicrore 2G spectrum scam.

"In my opinion, Sharad Pawar's credibility has reached the nadir. Following the allegations levelled against him, Pawar had to quit from the group of ministers (GoM) while we established that he was directly associated with unscrupulous builders and developers," Khadse said.

A senior NCP minister even admitted that Pawar's career graph was witnessing a sharp decline, and things were getting worse with party members from the state failing to support him. "Khadse has stolen the show, we have failed to protect our leader," he said.

A day after Hazare went on a hunger strike in Delhi to press his demand for a comprehensive Lokpal Bill, he objected to the politicians included in the GoM who are empowered to draft the Bill. When Pawar quit the GoM after Hazare took exception to the minister's inclusion on the panel, the social worker said stepping down from the GoM was not enough, if he had courage, Pawar should leave the Union cabinet. "Pawar is a corrupt politician. If he quits the GoM, he will be replaced by another Pawar," Hazare had said.

The discontent against Pawar has been simmering even before Hazare started his agitation, when Khadse and BJP member Devendra Phadanis took on the minister as well as his daughter, Supriya Sule, and son-in-law, Sadanand, for their alleged links with Balwa and DB Realty, led by Vinod Goenka. "Gathering information about the Pawars was a difficult task. However, we used the RTI Act to secure the data," Khadse said. Earlier, reports poured in, saying not only senior politicians like BJP president Nitin Gadkari and Shiv Sena executive president Uddhav Thackeray, but also members of the Pawar family and senior NCP leaders frequently used Balwa's aircraft.

After being snubbed by the Mumbai air traffic control (ATC), Khadse knocked on the doors of the Pune ATC and he learnt that Balwa's plane was used by Pawar on several occasions and on one trip, besides BCC president Shashank Manohar and his wife, the Balwas accompanied Pawar and his family to Dubai. Even on establishing nexus between the members of the Pawar family and DB realty, Khadse has also reportedly dug up facts to prove that Supriya, along with her husband Sadanand and DB Realty, was the promoter of a technology park near Pune set up on an allegedly illegally procured land.

According to a source, for Pawar, such accusations are not new, but he is worried that his rivals politicians have obtained the "incriminating information" by filing queries under the RTI Act. In 1994, Munde, then leader of Opposition, made a startling disclosure that a gangster's associates travelled on the plane of Pawar, who was then the defence minister. Then deputy civc chief G R Khairnar, too, had levelled allegations against him, but most of them could not be proved.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 907338.cms

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 08 Apr 2011 10:36

vijayk wrote:TADA ... The dead nephew Deepak was questioned by CBI. He is the Director of Raja's company.

http://politicsparty.com/spectrum_scam.php

WOW! I can't believe how the SCUMS of UPA are getting away with open murders. If this was like BJP Govt., the COMMIES, MAFIA media and their traitors would have petitioned UN or US President to intervene by now.

He apparently was also an employee of Etisalat DB: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/rajas-relati ... 616-3.html

James B · Post by **James B** » 08 Apr 2011 12:37

NDTV going downhill in the market post-radia gate tapes (mid-nov?).

http://www.moneycontrol.com/stock-chart ... arts/NDT01

Arunkumar · Post by **Arunkumar** » 08 Apr 2011 15:58

self-del. Already posted.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 08 Apr 2011 16:06

somnath wrote:This Anna Hazare fast will turn out for the better finally...Indian democracy, with free press and all of that, wil not allow the govt to get away with anything short of a very very acceptable compromise...I foresee the joint govt-civil society committee to happen sooner rather than later, which will all be for the good...

Saar, given the state of our reporting over the last 10 years, one thing India does not have is a free Press, it is a press which is controlled by a few politicans covering certain agendas only.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 08 Apr 2011 16:09

suryag wrote:Will raja's number come ? next variety would be accident on highway

Had a bet with a relative, he predicted Raja will die in a new swimming Pool built in Tihar for Him, I stated a road accident was more likely, our common relative interwined and said Helicopter crash is most likely.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 08 Apr 2011 19:11

something fishy again, look at how effectively the media has blocked out deepak's murder

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 909956.cms

ET is the only paper where i see the news, media has blocked this and they have a good excuse like pp guy writes, anna hazare and this whole drama over a bill, which even if agreed to, will hardly matter in the scheme of things.

if anyone finds other links to deepak's death, please post here, this shows how powerful media is when it comes to blocking news and they are doing it en masse

jaibhim · Post by **jaibhim** » 08 Apr 2011 19:32

Pranav wrote:
The National Advisory Council (NAC) Working Group on Transparency and Accountability, headed by Aruna Roy, has strong reservations about several provisions of the Jan Lokpal Bill that is being pushed by another group of activists outside the NAC.

The NAC Working Group is already seized of the Lokpal Bill, and the Council and what appears to be its shadow council — the joint committee — are now set to come out with two different drafts of the legislation.

Several civil rights champions told The Indian Express that they had stayed away from Hazare’s fast because it had been “hijacked” by activists like Arvind Kejriwal, who had met yoga guru Baba Ramdev at least twice in the past few weeks to discuss the proposed law.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/upa-p ... ot/773284/
Hazare causing takleef to "civil society" types because Kejriwal met the "kommunal" Baba Ramdev.

I am reminded of Karl Jaspers and Martin Heidegger[eliding his Nazi past whilst only considering his thoughts on modernism and human freedom which challenged the humanistic communist discourse which inspired Foucault, India is a product of identities and her secularism and values are native to her people, she is a carpet and only those who touch the strings of the masses will get response from guntakal, to bethamcherla to delhi,with people of all relgions, creeds, classes joining ] and the anti nihilism that was directed at the modernist juthra of the party is god communists and activists. This movement is different from the pseudo 26/11 one because it draws upon the common man. One hopes there is bharathi born in everyone. Mr.Raman instead of appreciating this response wholeheartedly launches into the story of mount meru, and warns against ayotollahs. People have waited for long and are smart enough not be beguiled by ayotollahs even if it might be against a background of hyperreal reality by the media.Where are the candle light sociallites, jhollawallahs and guardian India bashing elite? One must not negate the agency of the common man and bestow it on intellectuals. Pranav it is very enjoyable to see the civil society activists run for cover!

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2011 20:48

KEEPER ARTICLE
http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... unto-death
CBI’s 2G chargesheet explains why Anna Hazare is on fast unto death

The CBI’s latest chargesheet in the 2G scam investigation, which has been filed under the supervision of the Supreme Court, amply illustrates this. Timid and short on detail, the CBI chargesheet serves more as a lesson for students of law and police academies on how not to make a chargesheet.

For starters, the chargesheet goes out of its way to offer a clean chit to the Prime Minister (4 pages), the attorney general (2 pages) and the Tatas (7 pages).It appears the CBI believes its brief is to defend these three as the accused rather than focusing on its real job of detailing criminal conspiracy, delivering evidence on corruption and filing charges, without favour or prejudice, against those in the government and the private sector who cheated the exchequer.

Since it is not keen on fulfilling its own mandate of a statutory investigating agency, the CBI has assumed the role of an auditor instead. This is an important move, which helps create a mid-point of Rs 30,984.55 crore between the CAG’s Rs 1.76 lakh crore revenue loss figure, which is accurately based on TRAI recommendations equating 2G spectrum with 3G spectrum, and telecom minister Kapil Sibal’s irreverent and indeed outright frivolous "zero loss" premise.

The CBI has further defied the Supreme Court Order of 16.12.2010 which instructed it to investigate spectrum auctions between 2001 and 2006 and the grant of UAS licences. The CBI has walked over that entire period as if nothing happened – ignoring the Justice Shivraj Patil OMC Report and the multiple statements and evidence provided by the government about the illegal issuance of new UAS licences since 2004 in violation of TRAI’s recommendations and the Cabinet decision of 2003.

None of the companies that were found ineligible in the CAG Report (85 of them) except Unitech have been chargesheeted. After so long, only Unitech’s 22 applications have been evaluated but not the other 63. The same officers who let in Unitech probably let in the others. Yet those officers who let in Unitech are not mentioned in the chargesheet.

The CBI has carefully picked on some junior company officials as the prime accused. Is it the CBI’s case that these officials acted without the consent of the owners and promoters? If so, under whose authorization, and with what motive would this be? The CBI repeats the charge of criminal conspiracy between DoT, Swan and Unitech roughly 17 times in the 60 pages but doesn’t provide any insight into how, where and for what consideration such conspiracy occurred. Raja has been provided an exit route to blame his decision on solicitor general (now attorney general) Vahanvati’s advice, while giving the solicitor general an exit by saying that the file was tampered with. This is a perfect situation for the CBI court to dismiss the case against Raja with a little scolding, “The CBI failed to make out the case properly.”

So apart from wasting 18 months of the taxpayer’s money since it first filed its FIR in October 2009, it is clear that the CBI, despite the Supreme Court’s supervision, is up to serious mischief. It has accused three obvious government officials (Raja, RK Chandolia and S Behura) and a handful of junior nondescript private company executives with little or no evidence and in fact, left strategic loopholes for this case to either linger endlessly or be dismissed. Unless the CBI springs a surprise in its subsequent chargesheets or the Supreme Court comes down heavily on the CBI for putting together an April Fool’s Day (April 2, 2011) chargesheet, it seems that the stage is set to take the nation for yet another ride by pretending to run a case but in fact, subverting the process of justice by using a shallow and unsubstantiated chargesheet.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2011 23:33

http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?718086
Probe Threat to IIT Professor By ED Chief: SC to Police

The Supreme Court today took strong exception to ED officials allegedly threatening an IIT professor, who is a petitioner in the black money case, for complaining against ED chief to the Prime Minister, and sought an action taken report by the Delhi Police.

The apex court, which said it was "immensely concerned" over the allegations of threat to Professor S K Dubey, asked the Police Commissioner to take action on the complaint sent by him through e-mail on April 4 and submit the report by next Friday when it will hear the black money cases.

Dubey was allegedly threatened by an ED official for writing a letter to the Prime Minister in which he had questioned the credentials of ED Chief Arun Mathur, who is supervising the investigations in the black money case.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2011 23:35

http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?718151
It is Much Bigger than Lokpal Bill: Protesters

Jantar Mantar -- the Hyde Park of Delhi -- has now become the nerve centre of a movement against corruption with thousands of people from across the country flocking here to express solidarity with activist Anna Hazare.

As Hazare's fast-unto-death on the Lokpal Bill issue enters the fourth day today, support for his movement is gaining momentum with people from all walks of life, including scientists, film stars and lawyers saying they have turned up here to send across a "bigger message".

For the majority of the people, the movement is not just about drafting of an "effective" Lokpal Bill, but it is about cautioning the government against "ever increasing corruption" and scams as a result of which India's imgae has taken a "serious beating".

"This movement is against corruption. It is a movement to cleanse India's image as a graft-ridden country" said Gurpreet Singh, a 45-year-old social activist from Chandigarh who has come here to participate in the protest.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 09 Apr 2011 11:25

Just watched Anna Hazare's speech after he broke his fast. It is a significant moment in Indian political history.

Anna held up the Government notification and said that just as Gandhi disturbed the sleep of the Angrez, we have all disturbed the sleep of the "Black Angrez".

He also specifically mentioned the sacrifice of Bhagat Singh, Sukhdev, and Rajguru, several times. (On a previous occasion he had said that what is needed is not just Gandhi, but also Shivaji.)

He cautioned the people that there is a long way to go - preparing the draft, sending it to the cabinet, and getting it passed. If at any stage the politicians create obstructions, the people will have to rise up again.

Also mentioned that the next thing on the agenda was election reforms. Specifically mentioned 3 points - Right to Recall (all hail RM ji), EVMs, and thirdly the option to vote for "none of the above" (if the number of votes for "none of the above" is greater than those for any candidate, then the election will be cancelled).

Good to see that EVMs are on his agenda.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 09 Apr 2011 14:21

A typical jaundiced view:

Lokpal Bill: Govt agrees to terms fearing RSS
Poornima Joshi and Kay Benedict | New Delhi, April 9, 2011 | 09:57

One of the major considerations of the government to somehow reach a consensus with Anna Hazare was the possibility of a takeover of his movement by a resolute Opposition and the most effective "cultural" organisation doing politics in the country - the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS).

Besides planting their popular mascot, yoga guru Ramdev, who performed a series of antics at Anna Hazare's protest site on Friday afternoon, the RSS had passed a resolution exhorting its cadre to actively join the social activist's movement against corruption.

RSS general secretary Suresh Joshi has written a letter extending support to Hazare.

The letter was duly handed over to Hazare by RSS spokesperson Ram Madhav on Friday.

"We have passed a resolution. Our friends and supporters across the country have been asked to actively join Anna's movement. Corruption is an evil that concerns every citizen of India. Therefore, the RSS lends its support," Madhav said.

This confirmed what was being suspected in the ruling establishment from the beginning of Hazare's agitation.

The government was also wary of the issue being exploited for electoral purposes.

Already, J. Jayalalithaa in Tamil Nadu and V.S. Achuthanandan in Kerala have started campaigning on the strength of Hazare's movement.

Besides, even government officers and credible figures such as E. Sreedharan of the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation and chief election commissioner S.Y. Quraishi have extended their support to the activist.

Hazare's supporters, who had warned politicians against joining his movement and turned away Uma Bharati and Om Prakash Chautala from the protest site, had no issues with Ramdev speaking from Hazare's platform.

The claim of political neutrality in the case of Ramdev is completely hollow as he has been a part of the RSS's Gau Gram Yatra and various yoga sessions that former BJP organisational secretary and RSS ideologue K.N. Govindacharya helps him organise across the country.

Ramdev is also an enthusiastic funder for the BJP. Yet the yoga guru excels at propagating the anti-politician sentiment that Hazare's "politically neutral" stance has fanned.

"Hang the corrupt," he exhorted a loudly cheering crowd. Among the people, too, there was sufficient evidence of the RSS's presence, with havans being performed at the site.

Activists wearing badges with slogans such as 'Sonia Bharat Chhodo (Quit India, Sonia Gandhi)' were signs of a certain level of RSS penetration in the movement. Although a large number of Ramdev posters, which also had pictures of Govindacharya, were removed from the site on the request of Left-wing organisations who have been trying to ride piggyback on Hazare's spontaneous movement, the most effective bid for the takeover of the movement was being made by the RSS.

The government clearly had no option but to cede ground before the groundswell of Hazare's support became unmanageable.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story ... g-rss.html

There were Maulanas and Archbishops too, who gave their support (not that that should be relevant, however).

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 09 Apr 2011 15:20

Pranav wrote:A typical jaundiced view:

Lokpal Bill: Govt agrees to terms fearing RSS
Poornima Joshi and Kay Benedict | New Delhi, April 9, 2011 | 09:57

One of the major considerations of the government to somehow reach a consensus with Anna Hazare was the possibility of a takeover of his movement by a resolute Opposition and the most effective "cultural" organisation doing politics in the country - the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS).

Besides planting their popular mascot, yoga guru Ramdev, who performed a series of antics at Anna Hazare's protest site on Friday afternoon, the RSS had passed a resolution exhorting its cadre to actively join the social activist's movement against corruption.

RSS general secretary Suresh Joshi has written a letter extending support to Hazare.

The letter was duly handed over to Hazare by RSS spokesperson Ram Madhav on Friday.

"We have passed a resolution. Our friends and supporters across the country have been asked to actively join Anna's movement. Corruption is an evil that concerns every citizen of India. Therefore, the RSS lends its support," Madhav said.

This confirmed what was being suspected in the ruling establishment from the beginning of Hazare's agitation.

The government was also wary of the issue being exploited for electoral purposes.

Already, J. Jayalalithaa in Tamil Nadu and V.S. Achuthanandan in Kerala have started campaigning on the strength of Hazare's movement.

Besides, even government officers and credible figures such as E. Sreedharan of the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation and chief election commissioner S.Y. Quraishi have extended their support to the activist.

Hazare's supporters, who had warned politicians against joining his movement and turned away Uma Bharati and Om Prakash Chautala from the protest site, had no issues with Ramdev speaking from Hazare's platform.

The claim of political neutrality in the case of Ramdev is completely hollow as he has been a part of the RSS's Gau Gram Yatra and various yoga sessions that former BJP organisational secretary and RSS ideologue K.N. Govindacharya helps him organise across the country.

Ramdev is also an enthusiastic funder for the BJP. Yet the yoga guru excels at propagating the anti-politician sentiment that Hazare's "politically neutral" stance has fanned.

"Hang the corrupt," he exhorted a loudly cheering crowd. Among the people, too, there was sufficient evidence of the RSS's presence, with havans being performed at the site.

Activists wearing badges with slogans such as 'Sonia Bharat Chhodo (Quit India, Sonia Gandhi)' were signs of a certain level of RSS penetration in the movement. Although a large number of Ramdev posters, which also had pictures of Govindacharya, were removed from the site on the request of Left-wing organisations who have been trying to ride piggyback on Hazare's spontaneous movement, the most effective bid for the takeover of the movement was being made by the RSS.

The government clearly had no option but to cede ground before the groundswell of Hazare's support became unmanageable.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story ... g-rss.html
There were Maulanas and Archbishops too, who gave their support (not that that should be relevant, however).

So now anybody performing Havans and anybody opposed to Sonia Gandhi is automatically an RSS agent?

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 09 Apr 2011 15:52

Oh...So they ARE afraid of RSS...good..

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 12 Apr 2011 10:50

x-post from Hazare thread in GDF:

Lokpal Bill: Cong dubs Anna's videography demand as idiotic - http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/story ... 34999.html

Not surprising. Aam Janata are idiots as far as elitemen are concerned.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 12 Apr 2011 16:30

Explosive confessions of Hasan Ali - http://www.timesnow.tv/Explosive-confes ... 370147.cms

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 12 Apr 2011 18:23

http://blogs.rediff.com/dillichaat/2011 ... e-succeed/
Will the Congress let Anna Hazre succeed?

Party leaders are already talking of ways to “expose” those allied with Hazare during his four-day fast to succeed in doing what the Oppposition failed to do. Arvind Kejriwal, the RTI activist who played a key role in the stir, has come under their scrutiny.
Some Congress leaders are not hesitating to blame Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for bowing before Hazare “too fast” without realizing the “consequences of accepting” his demand.
These leaders are now counting on “fireworks” during the deliberations of the proposed joint committee to thwart any meaningful draft bill.
“Why do we panic whenever someone goes on fast?” asked a Congress functionary. “We landed in trouble over Telegana because we mishandled fast by TRS leader K Chandrasekhar Rao. Now, we have succumbed to Anna.”

Congress leaders are also upset by Anna Hazare’s plean to videograph the proceedings of the joint committee for transparency. Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee, who is heading the panel, and Water Resources Minister Salman Khurshid have not outrightly reject Hazare’s demand. But crisis managers led by Ahmed Patel are looking a strategy to trash the anti-corruption crusaders.

If the bill were to reach the draft stage, Congress managers hope, leaders like Mulayam Singh Yadav, Mayawati and Lalu Prasad, who are soft on corruption, will try to block the bill in Parliament on one pretext or the other. That should serve the Congress’ interest.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Apr 2011 19:50

The real deal is they are afraid of RMji. He is the torch bearer of the right to recall.