Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Mar. 29, 2011

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 12 Apr 2011 02:26

According to NYT

"ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan has demanded that the United States steeply reduce the number of Central Intelligence Agency operatives and Special Operations forces working in Pakistan, and that it put on hold C.I.A. drone strikes aimed at militants in northwest Pakistan, a sign of the near collapse of cooperation between the two testy allies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/12/world ... ml?_r=1&hp

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Apr 2011 02:53

BBC was saying the same thing in the morning. ISI wants to know who are the CIA in TSP!

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Apr 2011 02:54

ramana wrote:Meanwhile on that guy in Chile:
the Chilean police informed the CBI that they had detained a person identified as Abdul Rauf

Won't it be cool if it turns out that the guy from "JNU" and the plotter are the same persons? Two for one!!

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Apr 2011 02:57

ramana wrote:BBC was saying the same thing in the morning. ISI wants to know who are the CIA in TSP!

Er... OK...here's the list of all our assets in your country. And while we are in a benevolent mood, here's a list of how much we have paid them over the past 64 years.
<sit back and watch the fun unfold when half the elites make a mad dash to the nearest airport>

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 12 Apr 2011 04:08

anupmisra wrote:
ramana wrote:BBC was saying the same thing in the morning. ISI wants to know who are the CIA in TSP!
Er... OK...here's the list of all our assets in your country. And while we are in a benevolent mood, here's a list of how much we have paid them over the past 64 years.
<sit back and watch the fun unfold when half the elites make a mad dash to the nearest airport>

Not a bad idea. Name them as friends on Facebook including their little Rapers and Rapettes in the US appended with a 'Like" symbol and bingo!

Sunshine is the best antiseptic....

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Apr 2011 05:53

ramana wrote:
Meanwhile on that guy in Chile:

Suspected conspirator in IC-814 hijack nabbed?
April 12, 2011 1:47:48 AM

PTI | New Delhi

A person suspected to be a key conspirator in the hijacking of Indian Airlines plane(IC-814) has been detained in Chile and the CBI will be despatching a team to the South American nation soon to verify whether he is the same person wanted in this country.

Cross post from China thread:

NRao wrote:With Aid and Migrants, China Expands Its Presence in a South American Nation

A pearl here, a pearl there, a Chinese pearl everywhere.

What’s next, Chinese Guiana?

My intention is not to be sympathetic to China - but to point out how the western world considers it fine to have nations like UKstan, Norway, Sweden and even Chile to be filled up with Packees but finds it odd when Chinese speaking Chinese fill up faraway nations.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Apr 2011 06:01

shiv wrote:
My intention is not to be sympathetic to China - but to point out how the western world considers it fine to have nations like UKstan, Norway, Sweden and even Chile to be filled up with Packees but finds it odd when Chinese speaking Chinese fill up faraway nations.

China is a newly formed country for them and they are incubating it. They are working on how Chinese should increase their global infleunce in the world and each region.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Apr 2011 07:01

anupmisra wrote:
ramana wrote:BBC was saying the same thing in the morning. ISI wants to know who are the CIA in TSP!
Er... OK...here's the list of all our assets in your country. And while we are in a benevolent mood, here's a list of how much we have paid them over the past 64 years.
<sit back and watch the fun unfold when half the elites make a mad dash to the nearest airport>

It would be more fun if they are truthful and include names such as Zardari, Maulana Diesel etc.

arun · Post by **arun** » 12 Apr 2011 07:12

X Posted from the Mumbai Terrorist Attack - News Stories and Timeline thread.

The Globe and Mail is reporting that the upcoming trial of Pakistani origin Islamic Terrorist Tahawwur Hussain Rana for links to the 26/11 Mumbai terrorist attack is going to “lend an aura of credence to the suspicions of ISI complicity“:

Accused in India massacre claims ties to Pakistani secret service

Mr. Rana’s trial threatens to lend an aura of credence to the suspicions of ISI complicity. According to court documents, the jury will hear the two Chicago conspirators say they believed themselves to be working for both LeT and the ISI.

Previously secret testimony heard only by a grand jury is referred to in a decision published earlier this month.

“I also told him [Mr. Rana] … how I had been asked to perform espionage work for ISI,” Mr. Headley, a Pakistani-American, testified to the grand jury.

Though cryptic, the statement is highly significant………………..

The Globe and Mail

Also check out the PDF file attached to the article which states “Defendant’s proposed defense is that his alleged illegal acts of providing material support to terrorists – at least those related to the Mumbai attacks – were done at the behest of the Pakistani government and the ISI, not the Lashkar terrorist organization.”

MEMORANDUM OPINION AND ORDER

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 12 Apr 2011 09:03

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 110412.htm
"Pak can't be friends with India: Hafiz Saeed
Rezaul H Laskar in Islamabad
Jamat ud Dawa chief Hafiz Mohammad Saeed on Monday made a rare public appearance to lead the funeral prayers for Kashmiri leader Maulvi Showkat Ahmed Shah, killed in Srinagar last week, and used the occasion to rubbish the India-Pakistan cricket diplomacy while vowing for a "jihad" in Jammu and Kashmir."
And this after all those pappi-jhappi and promise to let them play in IPL. I am heart broken.
Gautam

vina · Post by **vina** » 12 Apr 2011 09:17

Yawn.. Back to Shiv ji's truism.. Jo Lahore mein g*ndu, who Washington DC mein bhi g*ndu.

Farooque Ahmed - Paki naturalized US citizen gets 23 years for conspiring to bomb the DC metro system.

Now with that other Paki who tried it in NY and this guy in DC, the hardcore Pakis are coming out of the woodwork. This particular guy has been in the US since 1993!

Of course, of course. US bad onree. They should be sent to Kaneda where they will be welcomed with open arms!

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 12 Apr 2011 09:21

http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-news ... error-plot
"US-Pakistani gets 23 years for terror plot
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A naturalized US citizen from Pakistan pleaded guilty on Monday to joining what he thought was an Al-Qaeda plot to bomb the Washington area subway system and received a 23-year prison sentence."
I hope he is by mistake released to the GP side instead of segregation. The other inmates will do a lot of khatirdari for his benefit. AOA.
Gautam
Vinaji, you beat me to it.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Apr 2011 09:24

M.K.Bhadrakumar's Review of the book "Pakistan: Terrorism Ground Zero" by Rohan Gunaratna and Khurram Iqbal.

I am posting it here, instead of the Book Review thread, for us to understand how even a person like Rohan Gunaratna justifies Pakistani sponsorship of terrorism.

The really interesting thing about Pakistan: Terrorism Ground Zero is that its authors, Rohan Gunaratna and Khuram Iqbal, have presented a contrary narrative through the looking glass of the Pakistani establishment. They admit that Pakistan faces a “grave, unprecedented crisis likely to last for years” but then, Pakistan is not to be blamed for it. Look at India. “India has the largest number of indigenous terror organisations in the world”. India, too, has used terror as an instrument of state policy, hasn't it? So, why single out Pakistan? Good question. Someone should answer it. But Gunaratna and Iqbal have done a great disservice to the Pakistan-related discourse by whitewashing the grotesque graffitis, which even intelligent Pakistanis are willing to see. What is shocking is that they could write 17 pages profiling Lashkar-e-Taiba and insert one small sentence somewhere as an after-thought: “It is alleged that the Pakistani military has provided training for the group.” Period. Could it be that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence commissioned this book?

Blame game

The book reminds you that there could be powerful forces within the Pakistani state that are even today unable or unwilling to comprehend that we are way past the ‘blame game'. It doesn't help to blame the whole world and pretend that all that is going horribly wrong with Pakistan is because of what Americans have done in Iraq and Afghanistan, or what Indians have done in Kashmir, or Ayodhya. Creating myths about terror machines is dangerous enterprise. And it is lethal when the enterprise carries the name of a professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore. I took the easy course, finally, by reading the book as a compilation by Gunaratna's esteemed co-author Khuram Iqbal, who is apparently the head of research at the Pak Institute for Peace Studies in Islamabad.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 12 Apr 2011 09:58

But Gunaratna and Iqbal have done a great disservice to the Pakistan-related discourse by whitewashing the grotesque graffitis, which even intelligent Pakistanis are willing to see. What is shocking is that they could write 17 pages profiling Lashkar-e-Taiba and insert one small sentence somewhere as an after-thought: “It is alleged that the Pakistani military has provided training for the group.” Period. Could it be that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence commissioned this book?

The problem with most analysts including Indian ones, is that they refuse to admit the obvious, viz:
=> Pakistan is a terrorist state, b'cos its people are inherently extremists and terrorism is as integral an aspect of Pakistani society, as celebrating Diwali is for us.

The data on this is overwhelming - consider the following:

- 82% of Pakistanis support stoning people to death for adultery - 76% think its perfectly reasonable to murder people (legally) for apostasy - these are not small numbers within a country of 180 million people

- if you look at the terror map (at sify.com) that Sridhar put together - you'll be hard pressed to find a single country with 20000-30000 Pakistanis or more, that does not have a Paki terrorism problem. This proliferation is not due to state policy - but due to societal norms - Pakistani societal norms.

- Jessica Stern has duly documented the unusual respect given to terrorists in the villages of Punjab (oh - they were called mujahideen)

- Leaders of civil/political society have openly threatened to kill people who blaspheme. Even Salman Tasheer's father Mohammed Tasheer was a strong supporter of Illamuddin for killing a blasphemer. In fact, blaspehmey laws and Hudood ordinances stayed in the books primarily due to strong public support.

- Huge amounts of money are raised for terrorist groups by millions of average Pakistanis through the Ushr or donations during Eid - even heavily internationalized Pakistanis like Shakat Aziz openly declared LeT to be a social work group after 26/11

- One of the few polls on Pakistani opinions on terrorism against other countries is quite revealing - Pakistanis strongly support terrorist attacks against India (Kashmir, etc), while showing some hesitation to support terrorism within Pakistan

- there's virtually no difference between the messages sent out by the average Pakistani leader and terrorist groups regarding India - a perfect example are the threat messages sent out last year in the media by politicians and LeT about India and the IWT - they were identical.

Unless these analysts understand (and acknowledge) that the Pakistani people and Pakistani society are inherently extremist (at all levels) - any steps in amelioration of the problem will be wrong headed.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Apr 2011 09:59

arun wrote:Accused in India massacre claims ties to Pakistani secret service
The Globe and Mail

From the above, the following is most audacious and completely Paqui in nature:

Mr. Rana argues he is a Pakistani patriot who was led to believe the ISI wanted his help – and therefore he should get the equivalent of diplomatic immunity.

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 12 Apr 2011 10:24

Hindi Media on Kathak objection by Paki

Hieghts of Limit - Now Pak targets Kathak

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 12 Apr 2011 10:31

SSridhar wrote:Accused in India massacre claims ties to Pakistani secret service
The Globe and Mail

As if we did not know, but after reading this, it infuritaes and makes blood boil that MMS and his gang of WKK clowns have not only forgotten away this vile crime, but have created an equivalence between this and Samjotha. To me it borders on treason.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 12 Apr 2011 11:14

SSridhar wrote:
arun wrote:Accused in India massacre claims ties to Pakistani secret service
The Globe and Mail
From the above, the following is most audacious and completely Paqui in nature:
Mr. Rana argues he is a Pakistani patriot who was led to believe the ISI wanted his help – and therefore he should get the equivalent of diplomatic immunity.

Tactical brilliance after seeing Raymond Davis saga? Hoping ISI would do some "face saving" getting him for exchange of Raymond Davis?

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 12 Apr 2011 11:26

Wonder what the attraction for Pakis to Chile is?

Chile-Pakistan relations - Nothing to speak of here. Pakis started an embassy in Chile in 2008 and the Chileans have yet to reciprocate. There are ~200 Pakis in the whole country (including one mullah) and trade is mostly one way. Surely the Paki isn't there to negotiate a Free Trade Agreement with Chile, seeing that the Chileans are negotiating with SDREs for an FTA.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Apr 2011 11:38

It is raining cash for the paki players as well. Who says there is no win in defeat? PM announces Rs 1m each for Pak cricketers

cash award of rupees one million for each player of the national team for displaying good performance in the World Cup 2011

the prime minister said that the team reached the semi-final this time and Insha Allah it will play the final in the next World Cup.

chief ministers of Punjab and Sindh, Mian Shahbaz Sharif and Syed Qaim Ali Shah, respectively, had also hosted separate receptions in which they announced cash prizes for the players of the team

No resignations yet.

partha · Post by **partha** » 12 Apr 2011 11:44

anupmisra wrote:It is raining cash for the paki players as well. Who says there is no win in defeat? PM announces Rs 1m each for Pak cricketers

cash award of rupees one million for each player of the national team for displaying good performance in the World Cup 2011
the prime minister said that the team reached the semi-final this time and Insha Allah it will play the final in the next World Cup.
chief ministers of Punjab and Sindh, Mian Shahbaz Sharif and Syed Qaim Ali Shah, respectively, had also hosted separate receptions in which they announced cash prizes for the players of the team
No resignations yet.

That's a cool Rs 15 million gone. See, if the more talented Pakistani players had been given a chance to play in India-Pakistan League, these Rs 15 million could have been used to fight terrorists.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Apr 2011 11:45

ISI chief meets CIA head and leaves Washington

A 24-hour flying visit. Something is up and does not smell right (and it is not just the paki). I think Pasha just got read the riot act.

Pakistan's ISI chief Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha held an important meeting with the CIA chief on Monday but apparently cut short his visit and was leaving the US capital on Monday night

A Pakistan Embassy official confirmed that Gen Pasha was scheduled to leave Monday night although earlier reports had indicated he may be staying in Washington for three days and leave on April 13

Political analysts were, however, a little surprised that Gen Pasha, who had arrived on Sunday evening, was leaving the US capital in just about 24 hours. There was no word of his meetings, if any, with other senior US leaders, including the Defence Secretary

The NYT also reported that Pakistan has demanded that the US steeply reduce the number of CIA operatives and Special Operations forces working in Pakistan, and that it put on hold CIA drone strikes aimed at militants in northwest Pakistan, a sign of the near collapse of cooperation between the two testy allies.

the Pakistani official said: "We're telling the Americans: 'You have to trust the ISI or you don't. There is nothing in between.'"

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 12 Apr 2011 11:50

CRams ji: The fundamental premise of MMS and Sonia's setup is this

1. Stable Pakistan is in India's interests.
2. There's a large 'liberal' constituency in Porkistan.
3. We are linked culturally, linguistically and hastily conclude that thus we are linked to the same Value Systems.

Point 1 entails we don't entertain even remote thoughts on breaking this monster up. People who do come out with papers on this are promptly dismissed by MMS's secretary's 3rd secretary's peon.

Pont 2 entails we do the WKK jig dance and more Amans and Urdu sher shairyee, be dismissive of our Dharmic heritage and so on. So the people who get past MMS's secretary's 3rd secretary's peon will only belong to this group. Doon, St Stephens, JNU and WKK types.

Point 3 entails negating again our cultural heritage, equating Islamic terror with some bit of safrron. It becomes a must political initiative seeping down from the highest levels. It involves complete negation of our culture, dismissiveness of the Tibetan struggle, negation of any initiative that might seek to bolster Dharma in India or bond through that with our neighbours Tibet, Myanmar, Nepal. Our cultural links with our neighbour hood are slowly being cut off, because our value system it seems is the same as that of the Paki liberal.

MMS would never have heard of Ghazwa E Rear it seems, so neither it seems would Yuvraj or Sonia.

Dangerously if we retain these 3 'value systems' soon we will find initiatives to settle in millions in India escaping a Wjib ul Cattle scenario.

The leadership and it's track 2 or 3 minions don't know what they are defending. As someone said before..""If you don't stand for something..you'll fall for anything"". Thats the problem with leadership in India today. They stand for nothing really.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Apr 2011 11:50

Paki goes missing at Mohali

In what could be a repeat of the 2005 one-day Mohali match between India and Pakistan after which 11 fans from across the border had gone missing, security agencies this time are on the lookout for a Pakistani national who had come to watch the India-Pakistan World Cup semi-final in Mohali, but has not gone back despite his visa expiring three days ago.

Zameer, whose visa lapsed on April 7, was amongst the 285 Pakistani fans who arrived in India via Wagah border to watch the World Cup semi-final in Mohali on March 30.

In 2005, 15 Pakistani fans who had come to Mohali to watch the India-Pakistan match had gone missing. While four of them were traced, there is still no word on the remaining 11.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Apr 2011 12:03

ISI Chief Visits Washington In Patch Up Trip

April 11, 2011
ISLAMABAD: The head of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) is visiting his counterpart at the CIA, the agency said on Monday, in an attempt to patch up an alliance considered crucial to winning the war against al Qaeda and the Afghan Taliban.

Hmm,
Is that court case still on where the ISI chief is a defendent on the 26/11 terrorist act?

Who knows, maybe Pasha mian is going to ask for the release of Tahawwur Rana just as they released Diamond.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 12 Apr 2011 12:42

WASHINGTON: David Headley aka Daood Gilani and Tahawwur Hussain Rana, the two Pakistani expat foot soldiers who allegedly planned and conducted the Mumbai recce before the 26/11 terrorist carnage have implicated the Pakistani government and its intelligence agency ISI in the ghastly attack.

In court documents that have surfaced ahead of his upcoming trial in Chicago, Rana says his acts of providing material support to terrorists in the Mumbai attacks as alleged by US prosecutors ''were done at the behest of the Pakistani government and the ISI, not the Lashkar terrorist organization.'' The documents also cite Rana invoking his friend David Headley's Grand Jury testimony in which the latter too implicates ISI.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 958954.cms

Proposing such a defense, Rana told the Illinois court that ''he acted pursuant to his actual or believed exercise of public authority on behalf of the government of Pakistan and the ISI.'' This defense, Rana argued audaciously, would give him immunity from criminal proceedings in United States courts under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act because ''the ISI has authority to act in India to protect Pakistan's national interests'' and he was acting at the behest of the ISI.

Same argument as used by the Paki establishment..

The startling disclosures, which forms part of Rana's defense, came even as ISI chief Shuja Pasha is visiting Washington DC ...

Fail to see whats startling in these disclosures. It's the same as Point 2 mentioned earlier the WKK believing Paki's and Indians have the same Value based systems. Suddenly by this that aspect of his/ her thinking gets a jolt. Hence the startle. However why try and use one's grey cells beyond that 3.5 richter 'startle'

amit · Post by **amit** » 12 Apr 2011 12:49

anupmisra wrote:
Zameer, whose visa lapsed on April 7, was amongst the 285 Pakistani fans who arrived in India via Wagah border to watch the World Cup semi-final in Mohali on March 30.

There was talk about 5,000 visas being given to the Pakis. In the end only 285 managed to get visas? Well good, I hope that's an indication that the bhaicharia feeling does not go too far down from the top.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Apr 2011 12:54

Looks like Pasha ran away from the US in the middle of the night.

Maybe he was scared of possible repurcussions from the Chicago court after the media revealed what Tahawwur Rana had said.
Pasha must have been scared that subpoenas might be issued in his name by the court, or worse that he might be detained and made to appear in court as the defendent in the US citizens case against the ISI.

His US hosts must have told him to get out of town in the middle of the night.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 Apr 2011 13:12

13:16 PM Rezhasan tweets: New sign at visa section at Pakistani embassy in Doha: "We support the grand jihad in Kashmir." Kashmir written in dripping-red-blood font.

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 12 Apr 2011 14:51

SSridhar wrote:Accused in India massacre claims ties to Pakistani secret service

arun wrote: Tactical brilliance after seeing Raymond Davis saga? Hoping ISI would do some "face saving" getting him for exchange of Raymond Davis?

Rana says his acts of providing material support to terrorists in the Mumbai attacks as alleged by US prosecutors ''were done at the behest of the Pakistani government and the ISI, not the Lashkar terrorist organization.'' The documents also cite Rana invoking his friend David Headley's Grand Jury testimony in which the latter too implicates ISI.

LINK

I am convinced there will be no more gazi style paki show of tactical brilliance in India anytime soon. Porki pigs have been adequately rendered naked by International media and various governments.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 12 Apr 2011 15:29

my guess is US want to ensure ISI that no change in the relation and cooperation, inspite of Headley and Rana's confesion. Best way is to convey this personally to Pasha than over wire where other intels are listening.
JMT.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 12 Apr 2011 15:46

just google.co.in "vajpayee resume talk with pak" . The first two results you get is the same proposal by GoI in 1998 and 2000, Kargil happened in between.

The reason I am giving this is there is no one today to oppose MMS because all parties are flat on their face. Are we all seriously dumb and missing something important when all GoIs are eager to talk to pakis?

Are all GoIs following a doctroin? Just like all american presidents follow the same international policy...if so, then when was it drafted? Has it been reviewed or something?

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 12 Apr 2011 16:55

@Harbans ^^^

What will be startling is whether it plays loud in the Indian media. If it does, MMS and other surrender monkeys will be painted into a corner making it harder for the GOTUS to pressure India into concessions.

Good defense lawyers. Classic strategy to rope in the DoS to prevent 'classified material' being used in court and thus arguing that a fair trial cannot be held.

@abhijitm^^^: Personally, I doubt any 'doctrine' WRT Pakistan exists. It seems all pretty ad hoc—note the personal faxing for Mohali. Very personality-driven—not institutionalized like the US.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 12 Apr 2011 17:09

ArmenT wrote:Wonder what the attraction for Pakis to Chile is?

Chile-Pakistan relations - Nothing to speak of here. Pakis started an embassy in Chile in 2008 and the Chileans have yet to reciprocate. There are ~200 Pakis in the whole country (including one mullah) and trade is mostly one way. Surely the Paki isn't there to negotiate a Free Trade Agreement with Chile, seeing that the Chileans are negotiating with SDREs for an FTA.

perhaps the pak embassy is a relocation service for jehadi terrorists? they can't hide in af-pak since its too hot with CIA types, so why not send them somewhere pleasant where they can lie low for a while? worked for nazis in the late 40's and early 50's!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 12 Apr 2011 17:28

ArmenT wrote:Wonder what the attraction for Pakis to Chile is?

Must be the Penguin sex tourism! The next best thing to a suited-booted Englishman!

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Apr 2011 17:54

abhijitm wrote:my guess is US want to ensure ISI that no change in the relation and cooperation, inspite of Headley and Rana's confesion. Best way is to convey this personally to Pasha than over wire where other intels are listening.JMT.

Certainly, the Pasha visit was connected with the Rana/DCH cases. A coordination of strategy, perhaps. American nationals must sue the GoTUS over its negligence of loss of American lives and hobnobbing with the very terrorists who caused that.

vanand · Post by **vanand** » 12 Apr 2011 18:37

Charlie wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Times Now reporting that Maulana Masood Azhar's (JeM) brother, Abdul Rauf and the Financier and planner of the IC-814 hijacking appears to be arrested in Chile. An Indian team is going there immediately to verify.
A Paki "student" was arrested last year in Chile when he was trying to enter US Embassy.

http://www.timesnow.tv/Pakistan-student ... 344956.cms

Whats happening in Chile? Is it only a conduit to get into US? If Abdul Rauf can go to Chile...then there must be a resourceful Paki gang there.

Times Now reported that there is no extradition treaty between India and Chile or the TSP & co might looking for new launch pads where there is no stringent law to prosecute and where they roam freely with out getting noticed.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/ ... or_suspect
http://www.dawn.com/2010/12/07/chilean- ... ocent.html

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 12 Apr 2011 19:23

Three government employees killed in Karachi‎ during sixth national census

KARACHI: Rangers were deployed in all sensitive areas of Sindh province on Tuesday during the first phase of Sixth National Census to ensure security to its staff.

Express 24/7 correspondent Shehryar Mirza reported that the three men were collecting data for the ongoing census when unidentified men on motorcycles shot them.

arun · Post by **arun** » 12 Apr 2011 20:01

X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

Those originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan doing what comes so naturally to them, indulging in a spot of Islamic Terrorism Tourism.

In the US Pakistani-born Farooque Ahmed sentenced to 23 years in prison for an Islamic Terrorist plot to bomb the subway system of Washinton DC:

Pakistani-American Sentenced To 23 Years Over Bomb Plot

And in Afghanistan a Pakistani suspected of attacking a NATO base near Jalalabad is arrested. This was the second individual originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan arrested for this particular Islamic Terrorist attack:

Afghan spy agency arrests Pakistani suspect for attack on NATO base

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 12 Apr 2011 20:11

Now Hafeez-e-Pig wants Hyderabad and Junagarh

Saeed also claimed that the movement in Kashmir would serve as an example for "Muslims in Hyderabad and Junagarh who want independence from the oppression of Hindus"....