News - Osama Bin Laden - killed In Pakistan

UBanerjee · Post by **UBanerjee** » 02 May 2011 09:45

suryag wrote:If the location was fixed why no Drone acharyas to do the job ? Was it that Reaper feeds were available to Pakistanis ?

You only have one shot at something like this. A missile may or may not do the trick against a compound like this.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 02 May 2011 09:45

Thats a huge estate , saw in CNN that this place did not have telephone or internet connection and they used courier to pass news . That made it more look more suspicious. The mansion itself cost $1 million.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 02 May 2011 09:45

No matter what spin you put on it!
This can't be good for the Pakis....

Now that Amreeka's no. one enemy is dead...expect the aid tap to slowly turn off for Paks!
Amreeka has no interest in ending terrorism in either pak or afghanistan!

Niether are they fully going to withdraw from Afghanistan, especially when tarrel than mountain fliend is interested in that region

I just wish my own country would serve it's own national interest in this fashion!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 02 May 2011 09:46

suryag wrote:If the location was fixed why no Drone acharyas to do the job ? Was it that Reaper feeds were available to Pakistanis ?

It is important to get the body of the OBL. Pakis could easily create a new OBL otherwise.

Anant · Post by **Anant** » 02 May 2011 09:46

Lifestyles of the Rich and Dead. At least size wise, makes it easy for ingress and egress of military helicopters. Heard news reports that UBL personally tried to fire his weapon and at least one round was a head shot.

jarugn · Post by **jarugn** » 02 May 2011 09:46

20-25 US Navy Seal operation. Osama was shot in the head! His body is prepared per Islamic tradition! End of a chapter but raises million issues about Pakistan!

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 02 May 2011 09:46

Guys, anybodty watching MSNBC? I thought I heard Andrea Mitchell say that US officials did not involve ISI, and that TSP will be embarassed at this. But one thing puzzles me though. TSPA must have allowed US special ops inside right? How could US helicopters etc get in so close to Isloo without TSPA agreeing? Andrea Mitchell also said that one of the "detainess" revealed this house; probably one of those Abduls in one of the CIA torture camps subjected to laksham ghoola gave in

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ManishH · Post by **ManishH** » 02 May 2011 09:47

suryag wrote:If the location was fixed why no Drone acharyas to do the job ? Was it that Reaper feeds were available to Pakistanis ?

Nope - with drone, there's no reliable way to recover OBL's body and prove his death. It had to be SF only.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 02 May 2011 09:47

Pakistan will jump through this ring of fire and escape with its ecchandee intact, yet again. GOTUS will give the cr@ppiest reason possible to continue funding TSPA for post-OBL era GOAT.

Something like, OBL killing was start of the cleanup and that there are other elements which needs to be flushed down the pakistan. Also expect that slumbad will force amreeka to make a martyr out of this vermin so that future momeens are inspired to carry out jeehard and earn their 72!

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 02 May 2011 09:47

Chidambaram says it is a matter of "grave concern" that OBL was found so close to India; inside the heart of Pakistan. India's official statement is basically out. our position is clear. Pakis are hard core Jihadis and this is further evidence of that.

jarugn · Post by **jarugn** » 02 May 2011 09:48

Osama fired back but missed and was shot in the head along with his son!

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 May 2011 09:48

Joseph wrote:The PA has been criticized within Pakistan for not shooting down the drones.

How are they going to explain the ability of the U.S. to run a Special Ops force that far into Pakistan via helicopters and the PA not doing anything about it?

You see - Pakistanis were complaining about drones. not helos - so the Paki army has an excuse.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 02 May 2011 09:48

paki TV showing video of the burning mansion (or burning copter in the mansion?).

Also, the plans WERE NOT SHARED WITH ANYONE outside of a very small group of American special forces.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2011 09:48

downtown abbotabad but a huge leafy exclusive property, with lots of lanes to post spies and guards in leading up to it...no easy farmland or forests outside for people to sneak up or land helicopters in.

>> why no Drone acharyas to do the job ?

they wanted his body , to id who else got killed and get any documents, ciphers, comms gear lying around. if they caught any such fellow alive he would surely be in custody in afghanistan being squeezed hard.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 May 2011 09:49

TV: "US did not inform Paki authorities before attacking the compound"

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 May 2011 09:49

jarugn wrote:Osama fired back but missed and was shot in the head along with his son!

Son! Saala udhar bhi kisi ko chod ke ek aulad ko nikala?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2011 09:50

adult son per reports.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 02 May 2011 09:50

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&t

I am not sure if the above link will hold. Type Gumani Road, Kakul Pakistan and the site is close to Roohi Tabassum clinic.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 02 May 2011 09:50

You get up in the morning and find BRF is on fire!!!!

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 02 May 2011 09:51

compound had no telephone/internet. trash was burnt.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 02 May 2011 09:51

NBC reporting that US did not inform any Pakistani official about this attack today. The norm is for US to inform Pakistani before any such operations. NBC calling out that in the past when US informed Pakistani government about missile attacks, the culprits fled away, causing suspicions among US authorities. So this time USA did not inform any Pakistani officials about the impending attack.

The "expert" called this out clearly, he says irrespective of what Obama said in the news - this is how it is.

NBC calling this almost as a an armed compound. Nobody, seriously believes OBL was not helped by Pakistan.

lakshmikanth · Post by **lakshmikanth** » 02 May 2011 09:52

I guess with so much security around the military cantt. area, an unannounced stray heli would be a target for Anti-Aircraft/Heli weapons. And since its so close to LOC, what did not prevent the TSP from thinking its an INDIAN op and lob a few missiles at us?

I am really really curious on how this was avoided by the ops team, They must have flow very very low, much lower than what a radar angle can capture.

jarugn · Post by **jarugn** » 02 May 2011 09:52

US Navy Seals destroyed the mansion compound after the helicopter crash! The resulting fire destroyed the mansion. Osama's body in Afghanistan!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 02 May 2011 09:52

I cannot imagine that Pakis does not know about the ops. It is damn middle of a garrison city and not too far away from several contonments. US may take credit of doing it alone. They may be saving the PA from the mango abduls.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 02 May 2011 09:53

The LOC needs to be on alert. PA will start shelling and indiscriminate firing.

Neshant · Post by **Neshant** » 02 May 2011 09:53

UBanerjee wrote:As opposed to declaring mission accomplished and withdraw from Afghanistan in 2003 when they "actually" killed him, at a time when the Taliban was in reality far more defeated. Instead they waited around until the Taliban gathered strength and resurged, spent several more years dicking around, and finally said "ok, I guess 1 trillion dollars is enough, time to pull out Osama's body and go home".

The objective of staying in Afg was an attempt to destroy the international component of Al-queda arab & foreign fighters who had gone there for jihad indoctrination against the west. That was the most dangerous component that the US had to eliminate. That seems to have been successful.

The other objective was to destroy the Taliban - which has not succeed even at great cost.

Realistically a 6 foot 6 old guy with kidney disease is of no great military importance other than as a symbol US made him out to be. I do think the news of his alleged death is for the purpose of claiming mission accomplished to exit Afg. Its probably the right decision since the cost of the war in Afg outweighs any benefit forthcoming.

The big question is what happens when US withdraws from Afghanistan.

atreya · Post by **atreya** » 02 May 2011 09:53

No PIK-CHAARS?? When do they display the pig's body?

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 02 May 2011 09:54

CRamS wrote:Guys, anybodty watching MSNBC? I thought I heard Andrea Mitchell say that US officials did not involve ISI, and that TSP will be embarassed at this. But one thing puzzles me though. TSPA must have allowed US special ops inside right? How could US helicopters etc get in so close to Isloo without TSPA agreeing? Andrea Mitchell also said that one of the "detainess" revealed this house; probably one of those Abduls in one of the CIA torture camps subjected to laksham ghoola gave in .

That detainee was one of the 2 couriers used by OBL. The one who was caught spilled the beans and confirmed that it was indeed the suvar hiding inside.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 02 May 2011 09:54

CRamS wrote:Guys, anybodty watching MSNBC?

I stopped patronizing CNN after Mumbai attacks. NBC reportedly making it clear again and again again again that USA did not go to Pakistani authorities, they special ops got the command from President and took OBL out. Period.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 02 May 2011 09:54

jarugn wrote:US Navy Seals destroyed the mansion compound after the helicopter crash! The resulting fire destroyed the mansion. Osama's body in Afghanistan!

These SEALS have no thoughts about what the burning down does for resale value for their training partners, the Paki Army

Now pakis will put up a shrine for the latest Pir....

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 02 May 2011 09:55

MMS might have done the right thing by hedging with the Pakistani PM (Mohali, Power et al.) - Think sun is setting on the Paki Army and ISI.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 02 May 2011 09:55

vina wrote: That ******** is Dead. I hope he died a Dog's death. I can never forget 9/11 EVER. I was there as usual that day downtown (I was not working in WTC) , I know people who lost loved ones and are scarred for live. It is the closest I have seen and experienced first hand of a terrorist act and that too on that horrendous scale.

GO USA. Hunt the remaining ********

Now for the Pakis. They are up a shit creek without a paddle. Their ace in the hole is gone! Time for India to go after the LET pigs and the JeM pigs for the atrocities in India. Inshallah!

(Sigh) ... enjoy the moment.

To Neshant: The US wants to keep at least a small presence in Afghanistan on a long-term basis.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 02 May 2011 09:56

lakshmikanth wrote:I guess with so much security around the military cantt. area, an unannounced stray heli would be a target for Anti-Aircraft/Heli weapons. And since its so close to LOC, what did not prevent the TSP from thinking its an INDIAN op and lob a few missiles at us?

I am really really curious on how this was avoided by the ops team, They must have flow very very low, much lower than what a radar angle can capture.

The Yanqui dogs would have jammed everything

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 02 May 2011 09:56

Sorry for the OT comment but the last few months have been specially memorable on BRF, sharing the same opinion as another poster a few pages ago.

A lot of events have happened which have thrown some of our analysis out of the window, while vindicating other apprehensions! Chaos theory analysts and specialists must be having a fun time piecing together all these global events, hugely diverse in nature to come up with a composite picture and a renewed model about the butterfly theory. These events might also become the basis for several PhD dissertations in the future, in that sense the last few months have been a watershed of a different genre altogether.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 02 May 2011 09:57

CNN Wolf Blitzer has repeated atleast 50 times that the operation was carried out "with the cooperation of Pakistani authorities". Forget it guys. Pakistanis have managed to show their face from between the ButtCr.ck of USA, during USA's moment under the Sun.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 02 May 2011 09:57

lakshmikanth wrote:I guess with so much security around the military cantt. area, an unannounced stray heli would be a target for Anti-Aircraft/Heli weapons. And since its so close to LOC, what did not prevent the TSP from thinking its an INDIAN op and lob a few missiles at us?

I am really really curious on how this was avoided by the ops team, They must have flow very very low, much lower than what a radar angle can capture.

Another explanation: Who do you think supplied the radars

Or superior jamming tech. Operation Desert Storm was opened by a few helos that flew under Iraqi radar and knocked out their early warning systems. USAF has experience in such matters.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 02 May 2011 09:58

for those thinking this is the end of paki army. Nope, they will squirrel out again. Their moto is "No jihad greater than jihad for self"

partha · Post by **partha** » 02 May 2011 09:58

Guys, watch NDTV for some humor. Mosharaff Zaidi is saying there is as much jubilation in Pakistan as in the rest of the world.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 May 2011 09:59

the nearest US jump points in afghanistan (jalalabad) are 300 of km away across rugged terrain. jacobabad and dalbandin are way off to the SW.
so methinks the US helis must have crossed over from the indian side which is onlee 50km away and moved at tree top level, before again exiting into India - the safest place for this op.

then pack up the surviving heli into a C5 at a mil airbase and decamp.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 02 May 2011 10:00

Alright, fresh info.

The place is off PMA road - that is Kakul road on the southern wall of Pakistan Military Academy Kakul.

There are several houses. This place is also known as Bilal Colony. This HOUSE FOR OBL WAS BUILT OVER THE LAST 5 YEARS!!!
That location displayed earlier is possibly not correct.

The google earth picture is from 2005, it might not be visible on the google earth picture.