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I wonder if we can write off this Arun as another Stalinist stooge...just because he has been invited by wannable rapist goons and mass murderers..some of what he says makes sense..

From above article...
This loss of credibility has serious implications for the Pak army’s ability to use terror as a means of strategic depth. No terror outfit can any longer swear to love, honour and obey the Pak army as in the past. Depending on the constellation of international pressure and domestic politics, the army could wash its hand of any group it had been supporting, at any point of time. A dead Osama bin Laden is living testimony to the Pak army’s fickle fidelity.
Modernity and democracy in the Islamic world will not just make jihad redundant but also make it difficult for Pakistan’s oligarchy to continue the pretend that they have a democracy going over there.
being a beijing puppet would have automatically made Paki democracy superior to bourgeois democracy to JNU wallas - this guy is not plugging that line...

In return for its cooperation in supporting democracy in the Arab world, India should ask the US to not let Afghanistan relapse into Taliban rule
a naive assumption that Unkil wants true democracy in Arab world and hence would give something of value in return to India!
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Mean while pakbarians getting more pure

http://tribune.com.pk/story/163148/12-g ... rder-case/
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Folks,

Someone here posted the list of terrorists captured in Pakistan since 2001.
can you please post that link,
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Dipanker wrote:^^ Perhaps a good reply would be that India is a Hindu country in the same sense as US is a Christian country or France is a Catholic country. That should put things in perspective for them.
Am I missing something here? What is wrong in being called a Hindu country. I for one would be proud if India would truely become a Hindu country
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Neela wrote:Folks,

Someone here posted the list of terrorists captured in Pakistan since 2001.
can you please post that link,
Here is the list with arrested date, I collected from wiki and
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristscorecard/

Umar Patek January ---> 25 January 2011

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed ---> March 1, 2003

Mustafa Mohamed Fadhil ---> 2004 (pak claim but questionable)

Ahmed Ghailani ---> July 25, 2004

Adam Gadahn pak ---> (pak claims but questionable)

Ramzi Binalshibh ---> September 2002

Mustafa Ahmad al-Hasawi ---> 2003

Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali ---> April 29, 2003

Walid bin Attash ---> April 29, 2003

Abu Zubaydah March ---> 2002

Yasser al-Jaziri ---> March 15, 2003

Abdul Rahim al-Sharqawi ---> February 2002

Abu Yasir al-Jaziri ---> March 15, 2003

Adil al-Jaziri ---> June 17, 2003

Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan (arrest location unknown)

Musaad Aruchi (arrest location unknown)
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it seems Kiyani in his speech at the Corps(e) commanders conf said "we are one Army" or owrds to that. It means there is a split or thoughts about a split if he had to remind them.
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The H&D loss from this raid has been mind blowing for TSPA. This is worth posting in full.
Pakistan's army ridiculed after Bin Laden raid

A text message doing the rounds in Pakistan reads: "For Sale: Obsolete Pakistan army radar; can't detect US 'copters but can receive Star Plus; only 999 rupees." :rotfl:

Star Plus is a popular television channel from India.

Another message says: "What a country! Even Osama is not safe here."

These messages are a reflection of the growing frustration among Pakistanis over Monday's raid in which a team of US Navy Seals flew by helicopter from Afghanistan to a compound in the northern town of Abbottabad, killed Osama Bin Laden and then whisked away his body.

For the first time in decades, the powerful Pakistani military establishment has failed to find an excuse to pin the blame on the "bloody civilians" who now control political power.

The army is not only suspected of having sheltered Bin Laden, it is also under fire for having failed to detect the raid.

So while few people in Pakistan are really in love with the civilian government, everybody knows that this time an explanation must come from the military.

Media 'complicity'

The military took three days to issue a response, and the most prominent part of its statement from the Pakistani point of view is the admission that it did not know about the raid.

There are few takers for its contention that it also did not know about Bin Laden's presence in Abbottabad.

The raid, and the army's admission, have given rise to a flurry of questions.

"Why do we spend more than $6bn (£3.65bn) annually on the army when it can't do its job," says Mohammad Ruum, a resident of Swat.

The army says it was informed about the raid after it took place Mr Ruum's view reflects comments normally not heard on Pakistani television channels.

Pakistani media, though extremely critical of the civilian government, have traditionally steered clear of controversies surrounding the powerful security establishment.

Many even blame them of complicity with the military to destabilise the country's nascent democracy.

The military's role was first questioned in March in the aftermath of the release of Raymond Davis.

A CIA contractor, Mr Davis was acquitted by a Pakistani court after paying blood money to the relatives of two men he had killed in the city of Lahore.

While the civilian government made a few meek noises that Mr Davis enjoyed diplomatic immunity, the general impression was that his continued detention was due to the army's intervention.

To many, his release came as a shock, and as evidence that even the military had bowed to American wishes.

Bin Laden's death has put the icing on the cake.

I spoke to a number of people to find out who they blamed for the security lapse on Monday, and why.

One ex-army officer in Islamabad said the fault lay with the civilian authorities.

"They are the ones who issue orders; the army only obeys. They are the ones who were caught sleeping," he said.

Military-militant link?

Others, while equally disillusioned with the civilian government, said detecting the raid and countering it was the military's job.

"This is what they are paid for, to defend the borders, not to run bakeries and banks and real-estate empires," says Nasir Khan, a resident of the north-western town of Nowshera.


Few people in Pakistan support Osama Bin Laden Many people in Pakistan suspect a link between the military and the Islamist militant groups operating in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Those who live in areas overrun by Taliban militants over the last few years are sure there is such a link, though they may not have a tangible proof.

"In Swat, there was a time when we saw the army and the Taliban running their respective checkpoints literally yards away from each other," says Abdur Rab, a resident of Mingora. "People used to say, where there is army, there would be Taliban."

In the north-western tribal region, people have seen Taliban militants setting up bases close to military installations.

In 2005, when I was working for a local monthly magazine, Herald, we sent a reporter from Peshawar to cover a drone strike on a militant training camp in North Waziristan - a rare occurrence back then.

He came back with a picture that showed the destroyed camp at the foot of a small hill. At the top of the hill was an outpost of the paramilitary Frontier Corps.

Humiliation

Last year, local people in the Kurram tribal region led me to the remains of the Taliban's main command-and-control centre at a village called Bugzai, which tribesmen had overrun and destroyed.

For years prior to its destruction, Bugzai served as the permanent base of militant leader, Hakimullah Mehsud. It was from there that he ordered the continuing blockade of the main Kurram road.

Bugzai was barely 1km (0.62 miles) down the hill from the main Frontier Corps base, inside a British-era fort, which was responsible for security in the lower Kurram valley.

Few of these people are surprised that Bin Laden was found in a military cantonment, not far from Pakistan's top military academy, in Abbottabad.

These feelings are now gaining currency in other segments of the population, who are equally shocked that the Americans had found Bin Laden right under the nose of the military and defied Pakistan's seemingly impregnable defences to whisk him away.

There is no sense of loss or bereavement - few among the teeming Pakistani masses loved Bin Laden. The feeling is one of humiliation.

Most people dislike the US, and they feel their own army has let them down.
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One US contact of mine has said that Kayani has agreed to force Pasha to resign as ISI DG and appoint a candidate acceptable to US as his replacement.
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^ After resignation everything will be back to normal. Even ISI DG Gen. Mahmud had resigned after 911.
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vanand ,

thanks !
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... r-concern/

Evidence at bin Laden’s home raises nuclear concerns
Pakistani government links suspected


ntelligence analysts are sifting through phone numbers and email addresses found at Osama bin Laden’s compound to determine potential links to Pakistani government and military officials while U.S. officials and analysts raise concerns about the safety of Pakistan’s nuclear materials.

According to three U.S. intelligence officials, the race is on to identify what President Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser, John Brennan, has called bin Laden’s “support system” inside Pakistan. These sources sought anonymity because they are not authorized to speak to reporters.

“My concern now is that we cannot exclude the possibility that officers in the Pakistani military and the intelligence service were helping to harbor or aware of the location of bin Laden,” said Olli Heinonen, who served as the deputy director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) from 2005 to 2010.

“What is to say they would not help al Qaeda or other terrorist groups to gain access to sensitive nuclear materials such as highly enriched uranium and plutonium?”

Artical is worth reading!!!!
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Wow! was this ever posted here before: (April 25 article from cbsnews)
U.S. listed Pakistan spy agency as terror group
ISLAMABAD - Guantanamo Bay authorities named Pakistan's main intelligence agency a terrorist organization along with Hamas and other international militant networks, according to leaked documents likely to damage already rocky relations between the spy body and the CIA.

The 2007 documents from the Guantanamo Bay prison were part of a batch of classified material released by the Wikileaks website and included interrogation summaries from more than 700 detainees.

Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency declined to comment Monday, but it has consistently denied any ongoing links with Islamist militants

Latest WikiLeaks target: Guantanamo Bay
Special report: WikiLeaks
Leaked files reveal U.S. view of Gitmo detainees

The ISI is part of a list that includes more than 60 international militant networks, as well as Iran's intelligence services, and is part of the guidelines for interrogators at Guantanamo. It says the groups are "terrorist" entities or associations and say detainees linked to them "may have provided support to al Qaeda and the Taliban, or engaged in hostilities against U.S. and coalition forces."

The CIA and the ISI have worked closely together since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to hunt down al Qaeda operatives sheltering in Pakistan. But U.S. officials have often voiced suspicions that elements of the ISI were either linked to or supporting militants even as the two countries publicly talked of their alliance in the campaign against extremism.

Relations between the two agencies hit a new low this year after an American CIA contractor shot and killed two Pakistanis he claimed were robbing him. Since then, the ISI has complained about American drones strikes along the Afghan border and the alleged existence of scores of CIA agents in the country without its knowledge.

In a rare public accusation last week, Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the U.S. joint chiefs of staff, said the ISI had continued links to the powerful network of an Afghan warlord that has bases in a northwestern tribal region of Pakistan. Hours later, Pakistan's army chief rejected what he called "negative propaganda" by the United States.

Allegations of links between the ISI and Islamist militants date back to the 1980s, when Pakistan — along with the United States — was supporting the "Afghan Jihad" against the Soviet occupation in neighboring Afghanistan. These days, many analysts say the country wants to keep the militant commanders as potential allies in Afghanistan once the Americans withdraw.
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Pakistan rattled by news of CIA safe house in Abbottabad
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162- ... 03543.html
The CIA and the ISI have worked closely together since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to hunt down al Qaeda operatives sheltering in Pakistan. But U.S. officials have often voiced suspicions that elements of the ISI were either linked to or supporting militants even as the two countries publicly talked of their alliance in the campaign against extremism -- and documents recently released by WikiLeaks show U.S. officials have described the ISI as a terrorist organization similar to Hamas or Hezbollah.
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krithivas wrote:documents recently released by WikiLeaks show U.S. officials have described the ISI as a terrorist organization similar to Hamas or Hezbollah.
Yo US lurkers let me say this. BRF was way phucking ahead of the curve about this one. Ensoi.
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Grenade blast in Karachi, at least three killed 27 injured
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^ One grenade blast did that?
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Jumma chumma..
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Grenade blast in Karachi, three killed 27 injured
KARACHI: A blast took place in the Lyari area of Karachi on Friday that killed three and injured at least 27 others, DawnNews reported.

The injured were immediately shifted to civil hospital.

Motorbike riders threw a grenade in a narrow lane of the city’s congested Chakiwara area, senior police official Javed Baluch told AFP.

Police officer Iqbal Mahmood said the attack happened near a roadside restaurant which residents said was close to a gambling den.

“Three people were killed and 20 wounded in the blast, which was triggered by a hand bomb,” senior home ministry official Sharfuddin Memon told AFP.
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SSridhar wrote:From the Edit in The Hindu, "India-Pakistan: Unique Opportunity"
SSji, OT but why are you missing in OBL thread? I am sure many rakshaks are missing your wise words. :)
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If this happened in any other democracy the least thing that would have happened is the resignation/firing of the Army chief and Spy agency chief. Or if they had any honor they would have submitted their resignations. The Government might have fallen too. Then several heads would have rolled in the army, spy agency etc. Nothing of that sort happened in Pakistan
Only in Pakistan! What a country!
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Zardari knows there is no point in trying to fire Kayani and installing someone more loyal to him. The examples of ZAB and Nawaz were rewarded for doing that is with him.
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Sri Dronacharya's plentiful blessings on Pakistan:
http://www.npr.org/2011/05/06/136060030 ... ribal-area
The U.S. carried out its first drone attack in Pakistan since Osama bin Laden's death in an American raid this week, killing 15 people in a hail of missiles near the Afghan border Friday, Pakistani intelligence officials said.
Enna thavam seithanai ... What penance deserves this?
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I can confirm, I have heard very similar things. Apparently there are 3 groups within the ISI. Some sources are saying it is possible that the US was working with 1 on the OBL project. But I am confident Pasha/Kiyani were in on the OBL capture.

Rudradevji, That was easily the best history lesson/analysis. And fits exactly how I have seen things, but your knowledge on OBL is excellent and I've learnt a lot from it. Thank you.

Whats next for Pakistan?
Kiyani and his TSPA is under huge pressure. US is "raping" pakistan via drone strikes, spec ops missions. TTP + AQ allies + Afghan Taleban are now at war with TSPA. Domestic - Civvie pressure of national shame of allowing loss of "sovereignity" on this OBL raid. Ouch! Everyone is calling into question TSPA. What do you think Baloch liberation army etc are going to do when they see all this?

US wants to salvage the status quo of Pakistan's position as described by Shri Rudradev ji. Witness the statements of the Obama administration officials with respect to Chicago trial - they want to keep ISI role quiet still - which shows the US still wants Pakistan.

So, if I was a chairman of a business - RYK Sweet Mart and people found out about my dodgy jalebi's -> my reputation is being smashed. What would I do? I'd close my shop and put a new sign saying "Under New Management". So I think Kayani's next move HAS to be force Pasha to retire and order a re-organisation of ISI individuals (this was done a few years ago anyway). Place a pro US guy as the ISI head. Then make himself a sacrificial goat and hand over to the next guy (Tariq Khan or Shameem Wynne).

Then quietly approach the Afghan Taleban, all maulvi saabs (Nazir et al) and TTP etc. Say we are new management, that jack ass Pasha is out. Tsk tsk... Lets get back together baby (if you are Goundamani - "Annaa , thambiii" scene between Goundamani and Senthil should come to mind). Meanwhile, the new guy comes in and says lets win back Afghanistan together, just as US troops start leaving. Somewhere here I would do a mini terror strike and some border clash to regain some pride and proving to everyone that India is the enemy - uniting people more. All this is dependent on the GCC-Iran situation, as the $$$'s need to flow. Maybe a good target would be to kick off a battle with Iran and send ALL abduls to the Iran border. Or at some point awar with India - nothing like getting them to do some chest thumping. A WAR AT SOME POINT WITH INDIA IS A MUST - They want more paisa to survive via IMF/KSA loans.

So what will MMS do? Never ending dossiers, more international pressure, keep the peace flag flying to prevent the war, while we grow our economy, Kangress continue to make $$$'s.

The above is just an outline of what is coming I feel but it is dependent on events in the ME.
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Nandu wrote:Zardari knows there is no point in trying to fire Kayani and installing someone more loyal to him. The examples of ZAB and Nawaz were rewarded for doing that is with him.

Zaradri is safe as long as he doesn't do anything. Kiyani is sacrificing Pasha to soothw US rage/outrage! He will get Qadirfied to soothe the Fundoos.

Mushy is cleverly giving remote interviews. One day some Djinn will reach from inside the TV monitor/camera and get him.

So all in all both rascals_K&P who were responsible for 26/11 will get their just desert! (pun intended)

Also after that Salman Bashir outburst MMS unilateral piss process will slowdown.
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K&P will get what they deserve. Karma is catching upto them....
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This should be the point where India is launching a quiet diplomatic offensive on the hill. But it is also down to us individually to write to our senators and tighten the funding for Pak and force them to give up terror. Each one of us has the power now. Mobilize and act as one with one message. Letters to AIPAC will help too.
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While doing that we should each talk to atleast ten US folks and make them write to the law makers.

I already talked to five this week.
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I spoke to my local congress person..I send email & left a message to my senator. Her D.C office wont return my calls because she is busy.

Fox is talking about Ilyas lahori( he aint kashmiri) & how uncle wants him. They also mention how he was involve in mumbai attack. I said this before & going to say again...nextone to end up at bus stop or railway station is IK..
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My count is three so far. The fourth and fifth are a little apolitical so don't know...
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aamdavadi, One of your Senators is the one trying to cover TSP b*tt.
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Pasha 'opting' for VRS
The senior Pakistani officials said Pasha was never keen on the ISI job in the first place as he had no background in intelligence and was an infantry and armour officer in previous commands.
Hmmm...or is it a case of sour grapes?
Some members of Pasha's family are said to be urging him to step down, the report said. His two daughters had opposed him taking the ISI job and are pressing him to retire and take an honourable exit from the military.
Re-iteration of Petraeus v/s Mullen views of Kayani
The US official also said that the American commander in Afghanistan, Gen David Petraeus, sees Kayani in a "less favourable light".
Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen [ Images ] was Kayani's main American interlocutor and became "something of his pal during the long hours they spent together", the report said.
With this development, the case in favour of Pak top brass not knowing about Geronimo beforehand would become stronger.
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vanand wrote:
Neela wrote:Folks,

Someone here posted the list of terrorists captured in Pakistan since 2001.
can you please post that link,
Here is the list with arrested date, I collected from wiki and
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristscorecard/

Umar Patek January ---> 25 January 2011

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed ---> March 1, 2003

Mustafa Mohamed Fadhil ---> 2004 (pak claim but questionable)

Ahmed Ghailani ---> July 25, 2004

Adam Gadahn pak ---> (pak claims but questionable)

Ramzi Binalshibh ---> September 2002

Mustafa Ahmad al-Hasawi ---> 2003

Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali ---> April 29, 2003

Walid bin Attash ---> April 29, 2003

Abu Zubaydah March ---> 2002

Yasser al-Jaziri ---> March 15, 2003

Abdul Rahim al-Sharqawi ---> February 2002

Abu Yasir al-Jaziri ---> March 15, 2003

Adil al-Jaziri ---> June 17, 2003

Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan (arrest location unknown)

Musaad Aruchi (arrest location unknown)
Could somebody also correlate these arrests (for which we know dates) with the dates of visits by key American officials? It will expose claims that Pakistan has cooperated to arrest key AQ terrorists, and show it for what it really is - strategic arrest and hand over of some functionaries (maybe renegade ones and those who were no longer of value) just before visits by senior American officials, to extract goodies and/or to prevent a particularly severe treatment by Amritraj.
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Hey thats great news - I strongly encourage everyone to do this. There is no point in blaming GoI for failure to convince people in the hill. It comes down to us the people to do the needful. Yes, each of us have the power to do something in dharmic service. It is not everyday where Pakistan's close financer is angry with TSP and there is a general public outrage that OBL was harboured by TSP. We all have the weekend, perhaps just 1 hour of your time is enough to do the needful and perhaps save Indian lives from future terror attacks. Jai HIND!

My advice:
Someone powerful once told me (this applies mainly to the US): "All politics is local politics". So if you can say that by restraining Pakistan's use of terror. India can continue to grow its economy and ultimately help the US economy and generate many jobs for the people in the constituency. Perhaps, its a good example to say that US's continued support of Pakistan is forcing India to look for different partners, which affects Indian big ticket purchases. Example being MRCA - US lost out on possibly a $15billion deal and which would have generated possibly 50,000 jobs (calculate how many jobs for your area/constituency).
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Kerry and Lugar make me sick.
http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article ... id=4822135
"Distancing ourselves from Pakistan would be unwise and extremely dangerous," Lugar said.
Kerry who got Raymond Davis' release
"It is undeniable that our relationship with Pakistan has helped us pursue our security goals," Kerry said.
Neither do Biden, Hillary et.al give a good feeling given their background.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33498.pdf
President Obama, Vice President Joseph Biden, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton all
supported the Enhanced Partnership With Pakistan Act as Senators (S. 3263) in the 110th
Congress
Someone please start compiling a list of pro Pakistan US Senators and US Congress persons.
In 2012 election they should all be voted out.
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ramana wrote:aamdavadi, One of your Senators is the one trying to cover TSP b*tt.
I told someone to tell her boss..porkis have american blood on her their hand.
This time joe & jane arentgoing to belive crap uncle feed them for so long.
I cant talk politics at work, but my i been talking to people in my sleepy little town. My neighobur
had beer night after hearing about OBL. First thing he said, porkistan is full of terrorist.
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Boehner too should be a goner in 2012
http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article ... id=4822135 "It's not a time to back away from Pakistan: It's time for more engagement with them, not less," Boehner told reporters. "Frankly, I believe our aid should continue to Pakistan."
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Mar. 29, 2

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amdavadi wrote:My neighobur had beer night after hearing about OBL. First thing he said, porkistan is full of terrorist.
Are you sure it was not beer talking? or is your neighbor named Miller or Budweiser? :wink:
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Mar. 29, 2

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Hey thats great news - I strongly encourage everyone to do this (write a letter). There is no point in blaming GoI for failure to convince people in the hill. It comes down to us the people to do the needful. Yes, each of us have the power to do something in dharmic service. It is not everyday where Pakistan's close financer is angry with TSP and there is a general public outrage that OBL was harboured by TSP. We all have the weekend, perhaps just 1 hour of your time is enough to do the needful and perhaps save Indian lives from future terror attacks. Jai HIND!

My advice:
Someone powerful once told me (this applies mainly to the US): "All politics is local politics". So if you can say that by restraining Pakistan's use of terror. India can continue to grow its economy and ultimately help the US economy and generate many jobs for the people in the constituency. Perhaps, its a good example to say that US's continued support of Pakistan is forcing India to look for different partners, which affects Indian big ticket purchases. Example being MRCA - US lost out on possibly a $15billion deal and which would have generated possibly 50,000 jobs (calculate how many jobs for your area/constituency).
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Mar. 29, 2

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Sam wrote:
amdavadi wrote:My neighobur had beer night after hearing about OBL. First thing he said, porkistan is full of terrorist.
Are you sure it was not beer talking? or is your neighbor named Miller or Budweiser? :wink:

He served in afg & eye-rak. He lost his leg & they had to recontstruct his jaw.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Mar. 29, 2

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amdavadi wrote:He served in afg & eye-rak. He lost his leg & they had to recontstruct his jaw.
A good reason to make sure that his sacrifices do not go in vain. In 2012 defeat US politicians who are Pro Pakistan.
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