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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

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jrjrao wrote:Ejaz Haider goes all :(( :(( and says that Terroristan should now haul US to the UN to get punishment for violating Paki sovirginity.

As we can see, it is silly season in TSP.

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Dear Ejaz "Sande ka Tel" Salesman
Didn't you claim for the last few years that you country had lot of non State actors
Didn't you claim that the Kargil attack, Kashmir attacks, Mumbai attacks were by TSP non State actors and the Paki state had no control over it.
If so, the writ of your nation is not valid in the territories claimed by Pakis during partition. In such a case, outsiders have every right to claim ownership over these unclaimed lands/territories and establish law and order and give it a new name.
As far as your complaint to UN is concerned go ahead. I am one of the American taxpayers and we fund the UN clowns. Here is the reply from UN to you and your RAPE birathers in Pakiland
http://dividepakistan.blogspot.com/2006 ... n-map.html
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U.S.-Pakistan relations: It's time to put an end to the double game
By Paul McHale
With an ally like Pakistan, who needs enemies?

All U.S. aid to Pakistan should be suspended immediately. And the House and Senate foreign relations committees should conduct comprehensive hearings into our diplomatic and military relationship with Pakistan. Is there danger in taking such an aggressive approach? Yes. But there needs to be a fundamental rebalancing in the relationship — and a light touch won't do it.

The message from President Obama to Pakistan should be blunt: Game over.

Paul McHale is a former member of Congress and former assistant secretary of defense.
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Look at the neighbor's house next to Osama's. This one I can believe is a 'million dollar' mansion. This house belonged to an Army Major and he built it apparently after Osama's and he never suspected a thing! All these house have watch towers?

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/13052011/ ... ig_p5a.jpg

Next to this house Osama's looks totally decrepit!

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/13052011/ ... ig_p5b.jpg
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13385597
12 May 2011 Last updated at 22:14 ET

Five die in bomb attack at Pakistan paramilitary base

A bomb attack targeting a paramilitary force academy in north-western Pakistan has killed at least five people, police say.

A number of people were injured in the blast, and the officials warn that the death toll could rise.

The bombing appeared to be the work of two suicide bombers, a police official was quoted as saying by Reuters.
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Who is training these soocide bummers? Must be the incompetent ISI. Two soocide bummers kill just five (including themselves)?
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g.sarkar wrote: Pakistan and China
Sweet as can be?
Even an all-weather friendship has limits
....PAKISTAN’S ambassador to Beijing, Masood Kahn, was this week fully armed with metaphors to describe the robust friendship between the two countries. “We say it is higher than the mountains, deeper than the oceans, stronger than steel, dearer than eyesight, sweeter than honey, and so on.”
Enjoy,
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Pakistan China Friendship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWiwy_iRTwA
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A productive use of Indian aid. Assisting our Afghan friends in harnessing the waters of the Kabul River ought to be a priority item for India’s developmental aid to Afghanistan. Let the Islamic Republic of Pakistan fulminate:

India to help Afghanistan build 12 dams on Kabul River
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“We say it is higher than the mountains, deeper than the oceans, stronger than steel, dearer than eyesight, sweeter than honey, and so on.”
:rotfl:
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Over 50 killed, dozens hurt in dual blasts at FC fortress in Charsadda

CHARSADDA: Two powerful blasts at Frontier Corps (FC) fort near Shabqadar in Charsadda have killed more than 50 people and left over dozens injured, SAMAA reported on early Thursday
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^^^ I notice today is Friday, the day of the Muslim Sabbath and a day that seems quite favoured for these kind of things in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Any clue if this is merely a demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan or is this an IED Mubarak variant of the demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan?
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X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

Terrorist, based where else but in the Islamic Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan designated by the US.

Badruddin Haqqani designated a Terrorist by the US:

US Names Leader of Afghan Group Based in Pakistan As Terrorist
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Watched the documentary on motorma butto last night.
One thing is clear 1971 has made a huge dent to echandee of poaks.

Time for a repeat performance in 2011 in Balochistan :twisted:
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Now I have to say who ever trained these soocideers are pretty efficient. They cant be ISI.
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If any such thing happened in any part of the world all the forums would have been abuzz and would have resulted in hundreds of posts. But not in Pakistan. Hardly any reaction in deafndumb forums. This is for Shiv to piskologically analyze.
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toll is 63. IED mubarak its Friday
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Transcript of PBS show Frontline

Some major gems in the transcript...
MARTIN SMITH: Pakistan is supposed to be an ally in the war against the Taliban and al Qaeda, but U.S. soldiers fighting along the border complain that Pakistan's army supports the militants.

Maj. MICHAEL WALTZ, Former Special Adviser to the Vice President, 2007-2009: From my time on the border, we experienced on a regular basis Pakistani military complicity with the insurgency. It could be turning a blind eye as the insurgents launch rockets at our bases. It could be allowing passage, you know, kind of right under their noses. It could be even aiding and working with the insurgents to know what times to cross the border, telling them when our patrols or when the Afghan army patrols typically come. It was complicity on their part. And that piece, on an operational and a tactical standpoint, has to change in order for us to see success in Afghanistan.
MARTIN SMITH: The Taliban commander we interviewed said that if Pakistan chose to, it could, quote, "arrest us all in an hour."
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news of third explosion.
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ok, now its 69. 72 fast approaching with a century in sight
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Pakistan Army Chief Balks at U.S. Demands to Cooperate: NYT
Despite mounting pressure from the United States since the American raid that killed Osama bin Laden, Pakistan’s army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, seems unlikely to respond to American demands to root out other militant leaders, according to people who have met with him in the last 10 days.

While the general does not want to abandon the alliance completely, he is more likely to pursue a strategy of decreasing Pakistan’s reliance on the United States, and continuing to offer just enough cooperation to keep the billions of dollars in American aid flowing, said a confidant of the general who has spoken with him recently.

Such a response is certain to test American officials, who are more mistrustful of Pakistan than ever.

Emboldened by the May 2 raid that killed Bin Laden in Pakistan, American officials say they now have greater leverage to force Pakistani cooperation in hunting down Taliban and Qaeda leaders so the United States can end the war in Afghanistan.

The United States will now push harder than ever for General Kayani to break relations with other militant leaders who American officials believe are hiding in Pakistan, with the support of the military and intelligence service, a senior American official said.

These leaders include Mullah Muhammad Omar, the spiritual leader of the Afghan Taliban; the allied militant network of Sirajuddin Haqqani; and Lashkar-e-Taiba, the group that the United States holds responsible for the terrorist attack in Mumbai, India, in 2008, the American official said.

Pakistani officials, meanwhile, are anxiously waiting to see if any new intelligence about Al Qaeda in Pakistan spills from the American raid that could be used to exert more pressure on them, and what form that pressure might take.

But those who have spoken with General Kayani recently said that demands to break with top militant leaders were likely to be too much for the military chief, who is scheduled to address an unusual, closed-door joint session of Parliament on Friday to salvage his reputation and explain the military’s lapses surrounding the American raid.

The American wish list is tantamount to an overnight transformation of Pakistan’s long held strategic posture that calls for using the militant groups as proxies against Pakistan’s neighbors, they said. It comes as General Kayani faces mounting anti-American pressure from hard-line generals in his top command, two of the people who met with him said.

Many in the lower ranks of the military have greater sympathy for the militant groups than for the United States.

To take out the leadership of these groups — longtime assets of the Pakistani Army and intelligence services — would result in such a severe backlash from the militants that a “civil war” in Pakistan would result, said a former senior Pakistani official who was consulted by General Kayani in the aftermath of the Bin Laden raid.

The general, who has been courted for nearly three years by the United States’ most senior military officers in an effort to persuade him to launch an attack against the Haqqani network in North Waziristan, was even more unlikely to do so now, the Pakistani said.

While increasingly frustrated with Pakistan, American officials would also like to avoid a complete rupture of relations with a nuclear-armed state that is essential to ending the war in neighboring Afghanistan.

With the United States eager to wind down in Afghanistan, Washington needs Pakistan more than ever, a factor that would play into the general’s next moves, said Gen. Javed Ashraf Qazi, a former director general of Pakistan’s chief spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, or ISI, who met with General Kayani recently.

“Without Pakistani support, the United States cannot win the battle in Afghanistan,” he said. “Now the Americans are saying, please bring the Taliban to the table.”

The army chief was described as angered that the Obama administration failed to trust him enough to tell him before the raid, asserting that in keeping him in the dark the United States had alienated Pakistan’s best friend, General Qazi said.

General Kayani cannot ignore the sentiment of his soldiers, said Riaz Khokhar, a former ambassador to the United States, who met with General Kayani.

“There is a feeling in the rank and file of the army from A to Z that the United States is a most untrustworthy ally,” Mr. Khokhar said.

“We don’t want to be an enemy of the United States, but the experience of friendship with the United States has not been a pleasant experience, so we have to find a middle road,” he said.

General Qazi said hard questions were being asked about whether the American financial support to the Pakistani military was “worth the lives we have lost” in fighting Islamic militants.

Since the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, the United States has granted more than $20 billion in military and development assistance, an amount that does not include covert aid, according to K. Alan Kronstadt , the South Asian Affairs specialist at the Congressional Research Service.

Cutting ties would be extremely costly for the Pakistani military, said Shuja Nawaz , head of the South Asia Center at the Atlantic Council in Washington.

Anti-Pakistan sentiment was hardening in Congress as Pakistan waited for approval of payment arrears for its costs in fighting insurgents, Mr. Nawaz said.

In the short term, however, General Kayani seemed to be more concerned with the blow to the morale of his troops than with further damage to the already eroded relationship with the United States, according to the accounts from those who met him.

General Kayani visited six army garrisons this week in an effort to dispel doubts about the army and his leadership.

During his appearances, according to soldiers interviewed afterward, General Kayani acknowledged an intelligence failure in not knowing that Bin Laden was hiding in Abbottabad. But he added that this did not mean that Pakistan was to be “blamed for everything.”
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abhijitm wrote:ok, now its 69. 72 fast approaching with a century in sight
Then it is mostly a "rogue element" inside the fortress who detonated the IED mubaraks or it is a ISI/TSPA dog and pony show where few FC men are sacrifices to show that "we are victims onlee"
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Bah so much for MUNNA ally...
The news did't even make to the CNN homepage

BBC the old mai baap atleast has it featured!
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Not so fast. It is in 'this just in'. And the count is 70.
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Pak: Twin blasts at military academy kill 69
A twin bomb attack targettting recruits at military academy in northwestern Pakistan has killed at least 69 people and injured 30 others, according to the police.

Two suicide bombers carried out the attack at the training centre in Shabqadar, Charsadda district, reports the BBC.
Click here!

The back-to-back explosions on Friday morning took place shortly after scores of recruits left the Shabqadar Fort, a training facility in the district of Charsadda, Jahan Zeb Khan, a senior police officer told CNN.

A number of vehicles were destroyed in the blast. Most of the victims were recruits, but there were also civilian casualties. The injured were taken to a local hospital.

The recruits had just completed a nine-month training programme.


The district of Charsadda borders Mohmand Agency, one of seven districts in Pakistan's tribal region along the Afghan border. Police suspect Friday's attack was in retaliation for ongoing military operations targeting militants in Mohmand, reports the CNN.
Lesson for the wannabes joining the TSPA/related agencies:
Be ready to meet 72 any minute you have graduated into a full time TSPA employee..

Hope that DDM calls them para-military else gives the impression that 70 TSPA soldiers met their 72.
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sum wrote:Pak: Twin blasts at military academy kill 69
A twin bomb attack targettting recruits at military academy in northwestern Pakistan has killed at least 69 people and injured 30 others, according to the police.

Two suicide bombers carried out the attack at the training centre in Shabqadar, Charsadda district, reports the BBC.
Click here!

The back-to-back explosions on Friday morning took place shortly after scores of recruits left the Shabqadar Fort, a training facility in the district of Charsadda, Jahan Zeb Khan, a senior police officer told CNN.

A number of vehicles were destroyed in the blast. Most of the victims were recruits, but there were also civilian casualties. The injured were taken to a local hospital.

The recruits had just completed a nine-month training programme.


The district of Charsadda borders Mohmand Agency, one of seven districts in Pakistan's tribal region along the Afghan border. Police suspect Friday's attack was in retaliation for ongoing military operations targeting militants in Mohmand, reports the CNN.
Lesson for the wannabes joining the TSPA/related agencies:
Be ready to meet 72 any minute you have graduated into a full time TSPA employee..

Hope that DDM calls them para-military else gives the impression that 70 TSPA soldiers met their 72.
TOI seems to have listened to you 70 killed in suicide attacks on Pakistan paramilitary
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http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... -2,00.html
Pen and Paper Jihad
Pakistan's Effort to Resocialize Former Taliban
By Hasnain Kazim in the Swat Valley, Pakistan
See how hard they are trying. Pakistan is a victim of terrorism too. You kaffirs should be ashamed for demanding more.
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g.sarkar wrote:http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... -2,00.html
Pen and Paper Jihad
Pakistan's Effort to Resocialize Former Taliban
Kufr spreading Jahiliyat :mrgreen: Taliban was right, pakistan army doing tatte chooking of america
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Pakistan is never satisfied with mere perfection ( 72)
they did one better !

73 killed

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 289489.cms
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chilarai wrote:Pakistan is never satisfied with mere perfection ( 72)
they did one better !

73 killed

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 289489.cms
This just means a second batting is needed to win the match :twisted:
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I hope paki will find a way to score a century soon.
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Guys,

educate me on this? Given the 72+ who met their 72 were from NWFP, how disposalble were they to TSP Pakijabi army? Except for having to clean up the dead, any other loss to TSPA? Just an etch & dee loss?
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the FC are quite disposable, they are not core PA and not punjabi for the most part
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:(( the 100 was missed in this demonstration od IED mubarak IEDlogy of TSP.

:((
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CRamS wrote:Guys,

educate me on this? Given the 72+ who met their 72 were from NWFP, how disposalble were they to TSP Pakijabi army? Except for having to clean up the dead, any other loss to TSPA? Just an etch & dee loss?
no worries, all these deaths will be billed to benevolent uncle america

both the pasthun taliban bomber and families of dead pasthun paramilitaries will be paid compensation by army using the aid given by uncle, while the pakjabi army generals who planned this atrocity will be sipping whiskey saying phir uloo banaya dono ko :mrgreen:
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shiv wrote:
Arjun wrote:It is clear that Pakistan has for decades been honing its skills in deriving revenues for the state by acting as a 'pimp' in global geopolitics. I think I now truly understand the many many references in Pakistani media that have often talked of taking advantage of country's 'strategic geostrategic location'.

I don't think there has ever been any other state that has perfected or even tried to act as an intermediary in geopolitics to the extent that TSP has...the 'international pimp' business model is fairly unique.

Since it produces nothing productive of any significance, the focus has been on pimping the worst and most dangerous troubles for other states that don't want to soil their hands directly with such dirt. Areas like terrorism, drugs, nuclear blackmail, relations with the most 'troubled' and failing states globally - these are the areas that Pakistan specializes in. Can this forum try and analyze the TSP business model and build a predictive model for all the areas that TSP can and has intermediated in, as well as those it may be trying out in the future?

Here's a list of TSP 'pimping' areas for starters-

- 'Intermediating' and directing the world's most dangerous terrorists both for their own purposes and for the purpose of any country that can pay them for the 'intermediation'
- Intermediating in the global drug trade since early eighties leveraging the heroin fields of Afghanistan and financed by BCCI before its collapse.
- Intermediating in the illegal nuclear trade (aka nuclear proliferation) and building relations with the world's leading pariah states
- Trying to become the 'gate keeper' in access to Afghanistan and Central Asia's mineral riches
- Directing the most extreme global financial money-laundering business (BCCI) to extract money from the world's worst dictators; before it was forced to close down by Western authorities
- Intermediation attempts between Muslim world and West
- Intermediation attempt between Muslim world and China
- Intermediating between West and China (assisted in bringing about Kissinger's visit to China in 70s) before it became unnecessary
An insightful post Arjun well worthy of joining the gyan posts of the first post of the Packee thread.

I can only add that it is specifically the Pakistani army surrounded by a small elite establishment that has done this. This behavior fits in well with the behavior of a Mughal military camp serving the role of a temporary abode while more permanent quarters are sought.
Thanks Shiv.

It seems to me in connecting the dots - that the drive on the part of the Pakis to milk revenues to support their flailing state through 'pimping' / intermediating in dangerous waters - has been as fundamental a trait historically as their well-known anti-India mindset.

The world needs to be made aware that TSP's continued interest in Kashmir & Afghanistan derives as much from this 'pimping' mindset as it does from their hatred for India. Getting India to be 'dovish' is never going to reduce the importance of Kashmir and Afghanistan to TSP. These areas are critical for the Pakis for them to continue to play the 'Great Game' (just another name for their 'intermediation' tactics).....Western states know this - and they would prefer the Pakis to control these areas since the Pakis can be bought - but the general Western public needs to be made more aware that giving control of these critical areas to a country with the 'pimping' track record of TSP is a recipe for global disaster.
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CRamS wrote:Guys,

educate me on this? Given the 72+ who met their 72 were from NWFP, how disposalble were they to TSP Pakijabi army? Except for having to clean up the dead, any other loss to TSPA? Just an etch & dee loss?

If I am not mistaken these were the paramilitary , which is used in POK as well as Border along India.
Maybe some one with accurate knowledge like Shiv , Gagan , RajeshA could correct me.
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FC is different from the NLI which was used in PoK/Kargil....area specific para-militaries.
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OT..but I need some help here
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The attack is against Frontier Corps for failing to protect OBL. FC was helping in giving a safe passage to OBL and keeping him in Haripur first and in Abbottabad later. Whoever did that was quite angry with it.

The FC has a long history of being associated with the mujahideen and later the Taliban.
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The FC in Pak have taken a hit. Time for the BC, OBC, MBC and the SC to gird their loins now...
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