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asgkhan wrote:
RajeshA wrote:All the attackers on PNS Mehran probably did was to get rid of the evidence that P-3C Orion avionics had been removed and handed over to the Chinese.
American contractors keep a 24/7 watch on US 'assets'. How exactly was the avionics removed without them knowing? The Chinese had access to Orion courtesy Mr. Wang Wei.
asgkhan ji,

the effort here is to produce theories, some may call it conspiracy theories, theories which make some head or tail about the parties and motives behind this "attack"!

In case of such "attacks", it is the responsibility of the Pakistani Military to show transparency and certification. If the Americans were to scour the wreckage and appear satisfied that nothing was tampered with, then of course there is not much going for this theory, but in the absence of incontrovertible confirmation from some such quarter, this theory remains just as plausible if not more than whatever version the Pakistani government or military puts forward.

It is up to Pakistanis to prove that above was not the case!

Let's remember that the Pakistanis did not manage to apprehend any of the attackers, there is no video evidence of the attack, the CCTV being down, and the military is being less than helpful in allowing the civilian authorities get at the bottom of this; all this pointing to connivance of the military leadership with the attackers. Considering the target of this attack, the P-3C Orions had nothing much to do with TTP or War on Terror, one has to look for a motive by the establishment for this attack! And that motive can either be to recover some of their credibility with their old patron, USA, or try to ingratiate themselves with their new patron, PRC!

This attack happened after 2200 hours when perhaps the 24/7 monitoring was not so attentive. Secondly there were many Chinese technicians on the premises.
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On the various theories regarding the PNS Mehran attack - the TTP claimed responsibility and it has been suggested that they claim responsibility for any such attack anyway. The question is "what's in it for them?" What do they gain by widely advertising the idea that they attacked PNS Mehran and destroyed key anti-India assets of the Pakistan navy if they did not do it but someone else did it?

After watching the antics of the US for the MRCA competition and the C-130 deal the following characteristics can be attributed to the US

1. The US holds its highest tech close to its chest and does not show it at all and goes to the extent of destroying stuff that might fall into the "wrong" hands

2. The US allows the export of lower tech equipment but bind the use of such equipment in a web of laws and agreements (EULA) that has multiple uses. US EULA is only to meet US laws. The actual usage may break EULA but the US can choose to certify that al iz vel. I am certain Pakiland has EULA with the US and they have broken it on dozens of occasions. the US has not been too unhappy about it. Once they supply equipment to someone - they are not too worried about who sees it, but their laws are to cover their own lawmakers asses.
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US-Pakistan relations 'at turning point' after killing of Bin Laden, warns Clinton
Clinton said relations "had reached a turning point" but she thought Pakistan knew the stakes involved. She said it was "up to the government of Pakistan to take decisive steps in the days ahead" against militants, but did not give any details.

Clinton also pointed to the reality facing the United States as it contemplates how to deal with Pakistan, a nuclear-armed nexus for extremism and terrorism in a strategically vital region.
Everybody in Porkistan should have thought that Clinton is coming with a big soothing balm to put on their oozing wounds, but she had delivered a stunning blow to already low moral of pakis. If pakis does not wake up to this call means, there might be balknization of Pakistan with Baluchistan as a gateway to Pasthunistan and giving northern crumbs to CIS allies like Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan, which might be a good hedge against Russia and China. One shot, three birds.
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VikramS wrote:I think people should be cautious about how they criticize her. Some of the comments have been very personal and demeaning. Given her age, it is very likely that we will be seeing a lot of her in the coming decades. No point in rubbing her in the wrong way too much. Be persistent and to the point.
We should make it very obvious to everyone that Cristine Fair is an anti-India bigot. Getting personal should be included in the arsenal and infact we should ridicule her with her own sound-bites.
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if the americans wanted to destroy their aircraft, they would have had 'mysterious' fires or accidents or crashes... why all the hoopla of a terror attack? after all american techs and forces personel have been operating on pak bases since the 1950's

will be interesting to see how long the al jabbars in the US awaiting maintenance to come back to pakistan
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From twitter:
>>Hillary gives clean chit to Pak on Osama, urges to fight terror http://bit.ly/ldtyt2

Sigh.

Re Christine Fare, don't get hypersensitive over so called 'personal comments/ abusive' etc. She pukes diahorrea and swears like a drunken sailor online. Not a pretty sight. What goes around comnes around, I guess.
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Watched Hillary on tv - Pakistan is in trouble. Her speech was matter-of-fact, straight-talking 'do as we say or else...'
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Hari Seldon wrote:From twitter:
>>Hillary gives clean chit to Pak on Osama, urges to fight terror http://bit.ly/ldtyt2
Sigh.
What no MNNA? Ummm I guess that was dropped to show the slight disappointment.
Hopefully behind the purdah, a lot of grease is being used.
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My source's assessment on PNS Mehran
1. It is an ISI + Good Taliban operation. It is conducted to demonstrate that the keedas are extremely upset about Abbotabad operation and they have the capabilities to come close to Paki crown jewels.

2. Taliban were made to believe that it is a keeda operation supported by rouge ISI. That is why we see the mismatch between number of people entered the base and number remained at the end of operation. The six talibannis believed that they are doing a serious operation and that is why they fought till end, pinning down paki SSGs and killing 10 of them.

3. The ISI portion of the operation cleared the facility after
a. peeling the onions of necessary parts/technologies
b. destroying them (the second one was an accident)

4. On why onions. It is a ToT payment in return for the 50 bunders from tallel flends. That is the reason behind Chinese hostage drama. They want to create the perception that Chinese are more disliked by the bunnies than yankees; a lal-masjid followup you see.

5. Why PN base. TSPA has determined that PN has no chance of standing against ever growing and strengthening IN. So they decided to cannibalize the weakest link for larger benefits; after all they are getting 50 bunders in return to strengthen PAF relieving their TFTA fighters for nuke delivery and save them from 1st round of Indian assault.

6. On the other hand PRC needs latest P3 technology (Hainan island is 10yr old tech) to strengthen PLN.

Summary assessment: Losing onions make no difference to PN as it is no match to IN, its primary enemy. On the other hand this incident strengthens (a) PRC/TSP friendship (b) gets 50 bunders for free (c) reduces yankee presence in PN; which may come as a blessing for future Mumbai type ventures (d) hopefully deters future Abbotabads (e) opportunity to seed a doubt on Indian involvement - after all loss of onions helps India onlee, etc.,

What to expect next: A similar operation on one of the secret nuke storage bases resulting in a JDAM on paki soil. In the confusion few nukes are moved out for future non-state actor use. The JDAM will destroy any/all evidence. The second JDAM may not go off in India as it would attract Indian response; would a JDAM in shiaite Iran attract world's anger against Pakis? A third JDAM in India is highly probable.

Interesting times ahead.
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Ramay : No second JDAm in India as it would attract Indian response but third JDAM in India is highly probable . What kind of madarssa logic is that ? Why third JDAM in India won't attract response ?

BTW, if a JDAM goes off in India under MMS watch , Indian response will be massive launching of "Dove Cards" from South Block to Gilani.
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an attack on iran will also attract a response... perhaps chemical or biological
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Rajiv Lather wrote:Watched Hillary on tv - Pakistan is in trouble. Her speech was matter-of-fact, straight-talking 'do as we say or else...'
Just wonder if the bin Laden disks have thrown up trouble for Packees.
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Chinmayanand wrote:Ramay : No second JDAm in India as it would attract Indian response but third JDAM in India is highly probable . What kind of madarssa logic is that ? Why third JDAM in India won't attract response ?

BTW, if a JDAM goes off in India under MMS watch , Indian response will be massive launching of "Dove Cards" from South Block to Gilani.
I used to hate MMS inaction but came around to see his strategy; sometimes he is constrained by capabilities too to be honest.

That said, MMS is not life time PM of India and not all these developments are going to happen in this year. It took 14 years of planning for MB to occur.

Lalmullah, present Iran can be pushed around as it has few friends. India is in a much stronger position.
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Lots of theories have been proffered on this forum regarding the PNS Mehran attack, but I am surprised that no one seems to think India might have done it. It may be pure wishful thinking, but, isn't there at least a remote chance that India might have used some paki/Afghan resources to accomplish the task? Remember, India shot down atlantique in '99 after Kargil war, killing some 16 pakis.

My own guess is that this is a warning from some Taliban faction to the paki leadership to not help the Americans get them in the aftermath of OBL's killing.
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the reasons india has not done it are:

1. we are pacifist onlee
2. mehran per se is not high on our target list
3. orions/al-jabbars are not that dangerous to us compared to other things they have
4. we wouldnt send our own "bengali hindus" on soosai missions because we are civilised people
5. just wait and watch, pakistan is falling apart (MMS strategy)
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^
6. we shiver in our dhotis.
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Rajiv Lather wrote:Watched Hillary on tv - Pakistan is in trouble. Her speech was matter-of-fact, straight-talking 'do as we say or else...'

Obama-Lugar Redux underway.

Despite all Uneven/Unfair US has realised that TSP is indulging in NET(Nuclear Enabled Terrorism). India is not the factor.

BO-I has to put the foundation stones for detoxifying TSP.

Mixture of carrots (Obama Lugar type incentives) and cudgels(Abortabad type raids).
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a_bharat wrote:Lots of theories have been proffered on this forum regarding the PNS Mehran attack, but I am surprised that no one seems to think India might have done it. It may be pure wishful thinking, but, isn't there at least a remote chance that India might have used some paki/Afghan resources to accomplish the task? Remember, India shot down atlantique in '99 after Kargil war, killing some 16 pakis.

If it was an Indian attack - it was a failure. It achieved very little. For a terrorist attack it was spectacular. But with the resources and means India has - this attack was a useless piddly one that counts for nothing other than a short term boner.
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http://www.d aw n.com/2011/05/27/suspect-arrested-for-involvement-in-pns-mehran-attack.html
FAISALABAD: Security forces on Friday conducted a raid in Faisalabad and arrested a suspect who is believed to be involved in the attack on the PNS Mehran base in Karachi, Da wnN ews reported.

The suspect, Qari Qaseer is originally reported to belong to Dera Ghazi Khan and had been traced through a cell-phone call that had been made by the terrorists.

Reports stated that Qaseer had been running a madrassah in DG Khan.
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Motrama aka motormouth Clinton shreds Pakistani dignity :rotfl:

[youtube]nYQrsxMye8Q&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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a_bharat wrote:Lots of theories have been proffered on this forum regarding the PNS Mehran attack, but I am surprised that no one seems to think India might have done it. It may be pure wishful thinking, but, isn't there at least a remote chance that India might have used some paki/Afghan resources to accomplish the task? Remember, India shot down atlantique in '99 after Kargil war, killing some 16 pakis.
If you are surprised it is because you have not read all the posts. I was feeling lonely with that line of thought - India did it. Glad to have some company :rotfl: In most discussion forums, ranting and wailing against someone or a cause is what binds people together. In the process, several people will cry how we are all helpless and the sky is falling; essentially it is "us versus them".

The onus is on us to layout why India would have done it, and why several short term boners are better than perpetual or long ones. If we don't lay it out, we will not be taken seriously. That is the BRF standard, you have a point you are expected to make a good case for it. Else it is just CT.
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There is nothing wrong in assuming that it is diwali out there and India is bursting a few crackers of its own in the middle of this mela. But this particular attack is hard to explain from that angle especially since TTP has owned up the attack and the insider haath has been revealed. Still I believe a few potential piglets in TSP are getting it from pillion riding unknowns and militias from certain provinces with a bit of help from Harvinder Chennaswami Gangulys. :D
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A nugget which shows that even Sec. Clinton is aware of the Zaid Hamid and Nutty Nation type slimy conspiracy theories that Pakistan is full of.

Remarks today by Sec. Clinton to the Staff of Embassy Islamabad:
Thank you. Thank you, all. Well, thank you so much, Cameron, and thank you, Marilyn, wherever you are....Admiral Mullen and I have just come from a very long but, we believe, productive meeting with the leadership of Pakistan, and we spoke very honestly and openly and made it clear that we recognize we have shared interests, we have common challenges, and yes, we have areas of disagreement, which is true for any relationship.

This post is the heart of that partnership. All of you here, Americans and Pakistanis alike, you are working so hard. I know it, I’ve been here before, I’ve had a chance to meet with either you or your predecessors, and I’ve heard great things about the work that you are doing. And despite what you may have read in the newspaper, I’m also here to tell you that this is not an airstrip being built behind us. (Laughter.) It is, however, the loss of a nice little wooded area. But because of the growth in our post here, it’s one of those necessary but somewhat regrettable changes.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2011/05/164527.htm
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Wasnt an navy abdul arrested a couple of months back and he had warned of an impending attack? How come that is being ignored?
Also my original question of how the avionics of orion can be transferred to the chinese when they are under intense 24/7 surveillance by American contractors?
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Dilbu wrote:Harvinder Chennaswami Gangulys. :D
This guy has retired. Head of Pakistan ops is now Debashish Bandopadhay a Hindu Bengali from Kolkata handled by Mr Brandy.
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no saar, you must be mistaken
it is debashish madhavrao Bandopadhay-Patel from Kolkata, Kerela
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Does anyone have a link to the Hillary/Mullen press conference in TSP? Thanks
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arun wrote:French Defence Minister Gerard Longuet on the subject of arm sales to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

So no French avionics for the JF-17?:



Read it all:

France puts sale of heavy military hardware to Pakistan on hold
The French has always sold heavy military stuff to Pakistan. This is just PR for the MRCA deal. The French has been itching to sell their aircrafts and high tech weapons to China as well
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A_Gupta wrote:
Since Pakistani behavior was the same before the nuclear deal, 2002 Gujarat and before international opinion (mostly) turned against it on J&K, her opinion doesn't make sense.
Back to topic of Unfair mohatarma. I agree we should not channelize our energies or get riled up seeing her puke. Yes we can still factually counter her arguments and leave it at that please no personal attacks that just undermines our dharmic as well as righteous stand. I think for desis living in unkil land and queendom we need to write articles which are pro unkil an west interests. No mention of India. Lets highlight what are the west objectives in feeding this rabid dog.

1. Huge jihadi army that can be rented anytime for war / UN peace keeping missions (which is a fig leaf for occupation)
2. Access to Af & CAsia
3. Check on India
4. Check on Cheena
5. Check on Iran

Now what would unkil lose if pakis are broken into 5 pieces
1. Pakjab would still provide ready cannon fodder
2. Balochistan can provide access
3&4. You lose check on India but if you really have to chose between 3 & 4 and triage what you want for next few decades
5. Pakis dont put check on Iran rather have been part of the problem and if they need staging ground then baloch can do it as well

So the only bone of contention is point # 3 if we can some how get the message across that India is part of west and not against west then the we can gather steam towards Ralph Peter plan least for pakistan.
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milindc wrote:
VikramS wrote:I think people should be cautious about how they criticize her. Some of the comments have been very personal and demeaning. Given her age, it is very likely that we will be seeing a lot of her in the coming decades. No point in rubbing her in the wrong way too much. Be persistent and to the point.
We should make it very obvious to everyone that Cristine Fair is an anti-India bigot. Getting personal should be included in the arsenal and infact we should ridicule her with her own sound-bites.
Obvious to who? The BR jingo does not need any help; the Americans do. So construct your comments which will appeal to the target audience.

UnFair is used to shape public opinion in the MSM. She also testifies on the Hill. The number of people who actually read those insulting posts is very small. However those insulting posts do the following:

-> Create an impression of sore Indians in the minds of the less informed.
-> Diminish the mind-share of the counter-message which others are trying to put forward
-> Reinforce UnFair's Paki' behavior since it gets her attention; Paki behavior is not useful if it does not get attention.

Remember she is an American analyst and her view point reflects American priorities as interpreted by her. The objective of any comment should be to point out the fallacies of her argument in a rational, dignified manner AND showing how they hurt American interests. Calling her names or dimwit or air-head or what not does not serve that purpose.

As I had written earlier, she is not even 40 and may be around for a decade or two. She also might be playing the good cop to the Pakis on the State Department orders. She is quite blunt in exposing TSP perfidy (which is good). What we need to work in is poking holes in her root cause analysis and exposing the harm to American interests it can cause.

So please do not make it personal. Keep the rebuttal focussed on the message you want to counter.
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Osama, top aides were planning deal with Pak: Report
Al Qaeda [ Images ] chief Osama bin Laden [ Images ] and his top aides had discussed making a deal with Pakistan in which the terror group would refrain from attacking the country in exchange for protection inside the country, United State officials have said.

Documents seized from the bin Laden's Abbottabad hideout include messages between him and his top operations chief over the past year which provide the first suggestion that he considered Pakistan's government amenable to a bargain, The New York Times reported quoting unnamed US officials.
Am sure that lots of juice on TSP in now in Unkil hands via OBL and so, the tough talk by Motorham Clinton in Isloo is just a trailer of things to come for Pakis..
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Jia-ul-Haq's death and Mehren attack are similar. The real perpetrators will never comeout. It will remain just as internal sabotage for records.
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Brad:

Frankly, I do not even mind that Check on India clause. Let it be there to give some comfort to the insecure Americans. The Americans are used to poodles or enemies (with us or against us). India will never fall into that camp. They are not ready as yet to be the First Among Equals and still do not know how to deal with India.

The American society, runs on short term goals. Whether it is Wall St. obsession with earnings every quarter, or the politician's obsession with elections every two years, the time-frame in which anyone things is very small. This means that it will take a LONG time to turn the USS America around.

India and Indians need to keep pegging at it. Once you take out TSP out of the picture, there is a lot more alignment in Indian and American goals than there is disalignment. Frankly if they could not take Cashmere over the past 60 years, their ability to do so in the future is very limited.

This actually brings me to another important issue. It has long been a dream of the US to have an independent Kashmir which could become an American satellite state right at the soft belly of China.

What would be the Indian perspective, if the POK/NA region is made a part of greater Afghanistan as a pretext for NATO getting a base there. Would it harm Indian interests more than the current setup? Or would be help in balancing the rump Pakjab and the PLA if the US sitting at that vital junction?
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sum ji, the beauty of it is that madama klingon can just say "we know what you did" and leave (M)AF Kiyanhani(?) to sweat it out even if she doesn't know for sure...
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shiv wrote:
If it was an Indian attack - it was a failure. It achieved very little. For a terrorist attack it was spectacular. But with the resources and means India has - this attack was a useless piddly one that counts for nothing other than a short term boner.
Exactly. An Indian attack would have focussed on causing maximum damage to the assets present there. The attackers would have been equipped with more appropriate stuff.

It is reported that the attackers entered from the TSPAF side of the base and ran past their C130s and across the runway to get to the TSPNS side. It would not have taken much to put a few cubes of RDX attached to timers/delay mechanism while the rest of the gang was doing the dash across the complex. The attackers also did not seem to carry incendiary bullets which could have been used to cause more damage.
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^^ Love the thought of Kiya-nahi have sleepless nights due to the twin factors of which fundoo within TSPA might Qadrify him and how much does motorham Clinton know about his deals with OBL?
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anupmisra wrote:
Rahul M wrote:which article ?
A page or two earlier. Sehgal has bitter memories of the hospitality his hosts (Indian Army) had shown him after the '71 war. He is reminded of it everytime he visits pakhanistan.
Look here : http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 5#p1097925
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VikramS wrote: Exactly. An Indian attack would have focussed on causing maximum damage to the assets present there. The attackers would have been equipped with more appropriate stuff.
If India wants to just fish in the troubled waters, it does not need maximum damage. If one needs a controlled or limited damage why take a Ten Thousand wallah crackers, when a dozen Lakshmi pataka would do the job. Only a few have the potential to sell and buy ten thousand wallahs. Unkil will say "No, I din sell it", Panda will say "Me? %$%#$%^@&&^*"....so eventually it has to come from Paki godown onlee or finally us.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

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sum wrote:^^ Love the thought of Kiya-nahi have sleepless nights due to the twin factors of which fundoo within TSPA might Qadrify him and how much does motorham Clinton know about his deals with OBL?
Probably hillary found scandalous mms clips of osama and kiyani doing the 69 manouvere.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

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Its "Peter Lee" again

China drops the Gwadar hot potato

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/ME28Ad01.html

Reports emerged during Pakistan Prime Minister Yusuf Gilani's visit to China that Beijing would not only take over operations at Pakistan's Gwadar port in Balochistan province, it would also build a naval base there. The news set off alarm bells around the world, but China promptly issued a denial. Gwadar spells bad economics, premature geostrategic confrontation with the United States and the prospect of becoming the target of a burgeoning insurgency that might be receiving covert support from Washington and New Delhi.
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