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Again... but this time, the RPF caught the culprit before he could do any major harm. Also, this is the second time in a week that a person has come from TN for such nefarious activities on trains in Kerala... odd.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... z1DMPwVFco
Another woman attacked in Kerala train
PTI, Feb 8, 2011, 01.06pm IST

KOCHI: Hardly a week after a woman rail passenger was pushed out of a local train and allegedly raped, railway police have arrested a 23-year-old youth in another incident when he tried to misbehave with a young woman passenger on board the Thiruvananthapuram-Mangalore express.

The woman passenger was asleep on the top berth late on Sunday night when she felt someone trying to embrace her. She screamed for help and the other passengers who were all asleep immediately woke up. The incident occurred as the train was nearing Ernakulam station.

The youth, who managed to escape, was found hiding inside a toilet and was arrested by the railway police force personnel. A case under sect 354 of IPC has been charged against him, railway police said.

The accused Antony Suresh, hailing from Kanyakumari, was produced before the Judicial First Class magistrate court here and remanded to 14 days judicial custody.

Last week, 23-year-old Sowmya was pushed out of the Ladies compartment of the Erankulam-Shornur passenger train and raped by the accused. She had at least 100 wounds all over her body and police suspect that the accused hit her with a sharp edged weapon or stone which resulted in the fracture of the skull bone and jaw bone.

After fighting of her life, sowmya succumbed to her injuries on sunday and was cremated on Monday.
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This case is horrendous for more reason than one.
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"No such incident took place in school. The mother is trying to drag the school into a controversy for unknown reasons," a teacher, Malina Pinto, said.

This is a case of 1. Statutory rape, thus attracting s/376, i(f) of IPC. Rape committed upon a child under the age of 12. The law prescribes that the sentence will not be less than 10 years rigorous imprisonment, but can extend to life.
That Malina Pinto needs to STFU if she is not involved. Based on the report, the mother of the victim has followed all the right steps from a medical examination to filing a police complaint. The police too seems to have done due diligence here. And it is the kid who identified the perp, not her mother.

In this situation, instead of asking for collective pardon for this unspeakable crime that happened a few feet away from her own ass, this woman is trying to frame the mother of the victim? How does she know he was off-campus? Was she with him off-campus too?

In general, need for an India-wide ViCAP equivalent system is mounting. Am pretty sure there would have been other incidents that were smothered by schools all over India. This chap should not walk out in ten years and do the same thing again.
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CRPF Jawan harrasses female national level kabaddi player, shoots her dead when she doesnt respond to his overtures.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... z1DXJxivN4

National level player shot dead by CRPF jawan
PTI, Feb 10, 2011, 11.13am IST

PATNA: A CRPF jawan shot dead a national-level female Kabbadi player, who plays for the railways, before shooting himself in Patna after the girl refused to share her mobile number, the police said.

21-year-old player Manisha was on her way back home from Moin-Ul-Haq Stadium after practise when the CRPF jawan Jaswant Singh chased her and picked up a quarrel as she refused to share her mobile number, city SP Manu Maharaj said.

The jawan, who hails from Rajasthan, then fired at her before shooting himself near Bahadurpur railway crossing in the state capital on Wednesday evening.

Manisha, posted as a clerk at the Danapur divisional office of the Eastern Central railway, was taken to a nearby nursing home where she was declared brought dead.

Jaswant was admitted to the Patna Medical College and Hospital where his condition is critical, the SP said.
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These tragedies resulting from one-sided love are becoming more and more commonplace in this country. Youth attacking women, disfiguring them, stabbing them, killing them - such cases are being regularly reported from all over.

As discussed before, the perverse culture among India's men can only be curtailed by invoking fear, at least in the short term.
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Well, the above case is a fit one for punishment under section 302 (Murder), and Section 309 (Suicide attempt). But that doesnt change the fact that its too late for the poor girl.
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More news on the case. Looks like an FIR should also be registered against this persons supervisory officer, for allowing such a lapse in command and control that this could happen. Apparently such incidents of eve teasing by drunk CRPF officials had been happening for a while at the stadium, and this was the ultimate culmination of this behaviour.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/crpf- ... r-84544?cp
Drunk CRPF jawan shoots national-level Kabaddi player
NDTV Correspondent, Updated: February 10, 2011 13:20 IST

Patna: In a shocking incident in Bihar, a drunk CRPF jawan shot dead a national-level female Kabaddi player after she refused to share her mobile number.

Twenty-one-year-old Manisha Devi, who played for the Railways, was on her way back home from Patna's Moin-ul-Haq stadium after practice.

The CRPF jawan Jaswant Singh, who is also posted at the stadium, accosted her and had a heated exchanged of words as she refused to share her mobile number.

The jawan, in an inebriated state, then fired as many as seventeen rounds from his AK-47 at her before turning the gun on himself.

The girl was rushed to a nearby hospital where she was declared brought dead. A passer-by also sustained injuries during the firing.

The CRPF jawan, meanwhile, was admitted to the Patna Medical College and Hospital and his condition is stated to be critical.

An FIR has been registered against the CRPF jawan under section 302 (murder) of the Indian Penal Code.

The Railway Ministry has directed the sports Railway Board to rush to Patna to provide all possible help to the bereaved family. The Ministry has also instructed the Railways to provide all possible help in bringing the deceased's parents from Himachal Pradesh.

Manisha was posted as a clerk at the Danapur divisional office of the Eastern Central railway and was supposed to leave for Ranchi tomorrow to participate in the National Games.
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AIIMS medic still not arrested by Delhi Police?
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AIIMS medic is still touring his native place. I have scarcely before seen such extreme considerateness on the part of the cops towards an accused, unless he is 'special'.
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Basis for charges in the Aarushi murder case. Charges have been framed against the parents in the murder, by the court. What this means is that this is the basis on which the case will be tried.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... z1DcmhpzdE
Aarushi case: Why the Talwars are facing a murder charge

TNN, Feb 11, 2011, 08.31am IST

Charging Dr. Rajesh Talwar and his wife, Nupur, with murder and destruction of evidence in the Aarushi-Hemraj case, special magistrate (CBI) Preeti Singh said she was guided by the principle that there should be enough basis to take further action rather than enough ground to prove charges.

Here's the chain of evidence Singh relied upon in her ruling:

1. Only family & Hemraj at home (Read: Hemraj a victim too, but forgotten)
According to Talwar's driver Umesh, maid Bharti & guards, there were only 4 people in the house on the night of May 15-16 — Rajesh Talwar, Nupur, Aarushi and Hemraj

2. No sign of forced entry
Guards at Jalvayu Vihar didn't see anyone come or go from Talwar's house. Neither did neighbour Puneet Tandon

3. Role of servants ruled out
Nupur usually locked Aarushi's room from outside and only she or Aarushi (from inside) could open it. Neighbours Anita Durrani, Puneet Tandon and K N Johri said their domestic helps did not go out

4. Aarushi's private parts cleaned
Dr Sunil Dohre, who conducted the post-mortem, stated there were no signs of resistance on Aarushi's body but there was white discharge near her vagina. Evidently, the private parts were tampered with

5. Hemraj dragged to terrace (Read: Talwar wasn't keen to check terrace)
Dr Rohit Kochhar and Dr Rajeev Varshney spotted bloodstains on handle of terrace door. They told Talwar and cops about it, but they didn't react. Visitor Sanjay Chauhan said from bloodstains on the stairs it seemed an injured person had been dragged up. Talwar went up the stairs and came down, only to vanish inside

6. Internet router switched on/off
Telecom dept official Deepak Kanda said the Talwars' router was repeatedly switched on and off between 12.08am and 3.43am

7. Terrace door locked ( Read: Statement of witnesses prove crucial )
Domestic helps Umesh, Kalpana and Vimla and neighbour Puneet Tandon vouched for the fact that the terrace door had never been locked earlier

8. Surgically trained killers
Witness Naresh Raj said Hemraj's cut mark was from one side to another. It was done with a sharp weapon but it couldn't have been a khukri

9. V-shape wound from golf stick
Umesh said he kept 2 golf sticks in Hemraj's room 5 months before the murders. Witness Ajay Chaddha said one stick was later found from Talwars' loft. Talwars weren't clear how it went missing. Dr Dohre stated the V-shaped wounds on both bodies could have come from a golf stick

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Palakkad Dt. in Kerala had witnessed a strange crime nearly a month back. A company secretary of Malabar Cements was found dead (by hanging) along with his two small sons (by hanging again). This official had complained to the government against the wide spread malpractises followed in giving contracts at Malabar Cement. He had named 2-3 high ranking officials and a contractor.

As expected this was first considered as a suicide pact within the family. But Intelligence Bureau had suspected murder, and informed the authorities (Link). The local police had formed a team to investigate the case, but there was allegations that the senior officer was partisan to the suspects. The team was reformed, by asking the Crime Detachment Dy.SP to investigate. Initial reports said that a suicide pact was very improbable. The man did not have the strength to pull up his two sons.

Kerala Government agreed to have the case transferred to CBI (Link). But then CBI says it does not have enough officers on strength to investigate the case(Link).
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How did IB get involved? It looks like to use Rahul Mehta's style the family was suicided by who ever are at the receiving end of his complaints in Malabar Cements.
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ramana wrote:How did IB get involved?
That was also news to me, because I am hearing it for the first time that IB was having surveillance over a whistle-blower. Only reason which came up my mind was that the "suspects" in this case to be involved in bigger and far-reaching crimes, which got the IB interested.
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The IB is not, strictly speaking, a law enforcement agency, and it has no powers of arrest or detention. I think its a DDM error and they meant CBI.

I have heard about this case. AFAIK its a case of murder, which was being covered up by state govt officials and ministers, and so CBI had to be called. The man blew the lid of a lot of wrongdoing at his firm, and had been threatened in the past.
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ASPuar wrote:The IB is not, strictly speaking, a law enforcement agency, and it has no powers of arrest or detention. I think its a DDM error and they meant CBI.
Nope, IMHO. The IB did not arrest or detain any body. But IB had given a feedback/tip off that a couple of people and vehicles were seen near the premises, soon after which these "suicides" happened. Why should IB have its folks near this house? Guess they had to do it for some other reasons (which is not reported as well). Or perhaps they were never near the house, but had some of the suspects (in this case) watched. Dont think the CBI was involved with this before.
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Maybe that company had foreign connections and was under watch.
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another day, another murder in our banana republic....

Teenager killed while trying to defend sister
Close to midnight on Monday, Rinku Das was returning home after work, escorted by her brother, Rajib, when they were accosted by a group of drunken men. While Rajib tried to stand up to the miscreants and was punched, kicked and beaten up, Rinku Das rushed to the houses nearby for help.

She approached the policemen on duty outside the bungalow of the district's Additional Superintendent of Police to intervene, but the guards refused to come to their aid and instead asked her to call the local police station for help.

West Bengal Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee visited the family of the victim at their residence in Barasat in the State's North 24 Parganas district on Wednesday.

Mr. Bhattacharjee visited the Das family during the day and assured him that the culprits will be brought to justice. However, his visit was marred by protests by Trinamool Congress supporters who claimed that an attempt was being made to drag politics.

The State's CID has been asked to take over the investigations.
Absolutely shameful. :(
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Re AIIMS Medic case, Google says FIR registered but no arrest yet.

Google cache

Why the police delay? First they said need AIIMS report. Now they say FIR filed. Is this political pressure to delay the case?
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Part of the reason why corruption manages to happen. The bad apples are allowed to operate with impunity, even after they are caught. When the department acted against this fellow, he was allowed to go free by a tribunal. There is no accountability. Anyway, he is not a "senior officer" as the paper claims, but a state service officer, at the first supervisory "officer rung". He is essentially equivalent in rank to a IPS officer with less than four years service, or a Lieutenant in the Army.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... z1ElWqm9Pq
Mumbai DSP held after heroin found in police car

S Ahmed Ali, TNN, Feb 23, 2011, 05.18am IST

MUMBAI: The crime branch on Tuesday arrested deputy superintendent of police Ashok Baburao Dhavale (53) after he was found with 1.5 kg heroin in a police vehicle. Dhavale was dismissed in 2007 for bootlegging, but an administrative tribunal ordered his reinstatement the following year.

The police laid a trap outside Worli Dairy and caught Dhavale and Amarsingh, alias Munna (45), a habitual drug peddler. When crime branch inspectors Subhash Dafle and S Hiramat intercepted the jeep, Dhavale said he, too, is a cop and tried to flee. But both he and Munna were overpowered.

Dhavale joined the police as a sub inspector in 1979. He was promoted to the rank of deputy superintendent of police last year. His posting was at the protection of civil rights ( PCR) cell.

Sources said Munna told the police that the contraband was meant for a woman in Worli. "It's a good case, but we are ashamed that one of our colleagues is involved," said a police officer. Munna told the police that Dhavale had been into drug trafficking for quite some time.

In 2007, the senior officer was dismissed from service under article 311 of the constitution after state excise officials caught him and three others with 19 liquor boxes worth Rs 48,000 in a police jeep. He was posted at the Vikhroli police station. The liquor had been smuggled from Daman, where it is cheap since no sales tax or excise duty is levied. Dhavale challenged his dismissal; the Maharashtra Administrative Tribunal (MAT) ordered his reinstatement in 2008. His senior was asked to proceed on leave in connection with the matter.

The police have found that Dhavle regularly smuggled liquor from Daman. The anti-corruption bureau, too, investigated the officer, but could not find any evidence of corruption.
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Kerala is now reading about two cases with interest. Printed media is having news item pretty much every day.

Case 1: A college student is run over by a train. But then it seemed to be a case of forced suicide. The student had an affair with a married school teacher, and that led to the teacher's brother-in-law and his friend kidnapping the boy. Near a railway gate, the boy managed to run out of the vehicle. He ran via the railway track, with the kidnappers chasing. In this chase the boy is supposed to have moved in front of a train.

Case 2: The mystery of the NIT research scholar. This case reminds us of many of the Sherlock Holmes mysteries.
* An NIT research scholar boards an over-night express train to Kozhikode from Thiruvanathapuram. She is in a happy mood as she is getting married in a couple of weeks.
* Next day morning a colleague who was also travelling in the same coach reports that the lady is missing from the train. Her bags, mobile phone etc. are still there in the seat.
* All-points messages are sent across, and a special railway police team is formed to work on the case.
* A passenger in the same coach informs the RPF that the lady was not at her seat, when he woke up at a station Kuttipuram. He had to get down at Tirur, and since he woke up early he sat at the seat in which the lady was sitting earlier. Other passengers say that they had seen the lady at her seat till Alwaye (a station just after Ernakulam).
* The police then decide to check up the tracks between Alwaye and Kuttipuram.
* Soon some villagers find a dead body of a woman on a river near Alwaye. Police and the lady's relatives positively identifies the body.
* As per the inquest and autopsy the death was most likely by falling out of the train, when it was crossing the river bridge just after Alwaye.

Due to the media sensation the case is handed over to the Crime Branch CID of Kerala Police. During their investigation...
* Police gets a suspicion that the colleague in the train and the lady may have had a love affair. The lady was also marrying a child-hood friend of hers. Police also found out that the lady had used a mobile SIM card exclusively to communicate with this colleague. Police also finds out that there are lots of SMS messages which seems to have got deleted. The mobile phone is sent to the Cyber Forensic labs.
* Police also finds out that the lady's fiance had also taken a reservation in the train, but he had not boarded the train. But some one else seems to have used this ticket.
* Two people who were planning to collect sand from the river at Alwaye had another interesting story to tell. They were hiding in a dark corner near the bridge as a train passed above. And then they saw some thing falling out of the train, hit the concrete pillar and then fall into the water. They notice the door of an A/C Coach was open and some one was standing at the door. It was dark, so they could not get any more clearer picture of the person. The Crime Branch CID Supdt. and team verify the story by waiting (in a boat in the river) for the same train to go over the bridge and to see if the two witnesses were speaking the truth.

At the moment investigations are still going on and the whole thing remains a mystery. Was it an accident, a suicide or a forced suicide, or murder.
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Looks like a murder by someone who knew her and made to look like an accident.
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More from Kerala...
Some time back, at Thiruvananthapuram a watch man was murdered and the jewellery shop he was guarding was looted. This was reported widely in news papers as in many other cases watchmen were not killed (and dumped in wells), but mostly tied up or injured. The looting was done by drilling a hole in the jewellery's walls.
About the dacoity: The Hindu
They said they had several reasons to believe that the suspects whiled away their time at some local bar before they commenced on their late night operation. They said they were on the “right track” and the case would be solved.

I really don't know how KP figured about the Bar part ;). But soon...
Kallara robbery, murder: Four arrested
Even though the police could nab four persons, they have not yet been able to find out the roles played by the accused in the murder and robbery. Also, they are yet to nab the three main persons, Sasikumar, Dileesh Kumar and a Tamil Nadu native Kannan, who had plotted and executed the crime. The three of them had gone into hiding post the robbery that took place on May 6. Meanwhile, the police have learnt that Sasikumar was found dead under suspicious circumstances in Goa, which has deepened the mystery surrounding the case.
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A heinous murder in the heart of Delhi. Apparently there may be a personal angle involved, as the boy was involved with a girl whose father disapproved strongly of the relationship, and had threatened the boy before. The case is under investigation.


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/shobhit-modi ... 086-3.html
Shobhit Modi's murder case far from solved


Parikshit Luthra , CNN-IBN
Posted on May 28, 2011 at 09:16pm IST


New Delhi:

Three weeks after a young IT student was killed in Delhi's Vasant Kunj, the police say they may have finally got his murderer. On May 5, 20-year old Shobhit Modi left the upmarket DLF Promenade at around 9 pm after meeting his friends. He specifically told his driver not to pick him up as he was coming back on his own. In few minutes he was dead.
Police suspect he took a shortcut home, which is a desolate stretch of road near the mall. They say Shobhit had an altercation with someone here which resulted in him being stabbed. He later succumbed to those injuries, dying in front of the gate of Vasant Kunj's C5 Block which is 25 metres away and next door to where he lives. After questioning more than 500 people over a period of three weeks the police have now detained a 25 year-old, a local criminal from the area who had been missing since the time of the murder. They found a blood stained tshirt inside his house - which the police think could be a vital clue.

Though they strongly suspect his involvement, they're not sure whether the murder was the result of a minor argument or an attempted roberry. The absence of anY eyewitnesses is making their job tougher. There are several questions which now arise. One, if this was an attempted robbery, how come Shobhit's expensive iPhone and his Tissot watch were untouched. Two, Shobhit Modi's call records had been deleted. His family had told the police that Shobhit's phone was password protected and only Shobhit and some of his closest friends knew that password. We tried to speak to Shobhit's family members too. While they refused to speak on camera, they did say that Shobhit's death could not be the result of an attempted robbery as their son wasn't the kind of person who would put up resistance. His father wants the police to continue concentrating on Shobhit's friend's father who he says, had been threatening his son for the past few months. So even as the police think they may have got their man - this case is far from over
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Somehow I get a feeling this threads going the India TV way, with us discussing "human interest" stories which have little to do with how the police works/proceeds/investigates/interrogates in cases of various kinds.
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There is a Manual for doing investigation and then there is Pandu way of doing it. Some may call it thulla way. Even CBI is known to adopt pandu way which works faster in India and may be in other countries too.

The problem in India is that there is little separation between Law and order duties and investigation duties. many times IOs are also responsible for law and order in a specific areas..

Intelligence building, profiling history sheeting etc are some of the tricks of the trade.

Many a times people see and scoff at pandus in uniform travelling free. But how many of us know that they may not be provided reservations or sufficient notice or wherewithal to travel after some clues. the difficulties that they face and food problems etc. If you listen to woes or ordinary pandus you would realise how difficult it is. Afterall they don't become millionaire by becoming ordinary pandus while being on duty for hours together. Unfortunately they are the first line of contact with public as well as criminals and are expected to perform. Not all are fortunate to be so corrupt as to make tons of money. Most struggle to make ends meet despite petty misdemeanor. Not that it is justified.
But lot is left as desired.

May be OT here.
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For Sachin... a blog by an American police officer...


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Fools in da' hood

Ah, Copwatch and Indymedia… Never before have I seen such a bunch of pathetic losers venting their impotent rage at the police. I’ve just read on the Bitches in Blue blog about how the local hemorrhoids have been harassing the Chicago Police Department and claiming—without merit—that the police in that city are and always have been power-crazed bullies.

I have to admit that we have those simpletons here in our area too. Mostly they just make harmless noise and I still laugh when I recall the last time that I had anything to do with their antics.

This encounter stemmed from their outrage over the fact that our agency was responding to an increase in violent drug-related crime in a particular public housing complex by engaging in a practice known as “jump-outs”. In a jump-out, officers roll around in a van all inconspicuous until they see what looks like a group of drug dealers or other assorted thugs. The van pulls up, the officers jump out, and everyone in the group gets detained, run for warrants, and at least frisked if not searched. Typically this results in a warrant hit or two and the recovery of some quantity of drugs and/or a weapon is almost guaranteed. You see, jump-out squads don’t just hit up any group of people—or even any group of black males. They know what the signs of drug dealing and gang affiliation are, and they target the ones who fit those criteria. The goal is the interdiction of bad people, not just harassing groups of teens or young adults.

I wasn’t part of the actual jump-out squad, but I was assigned to loiter in the area as rapid-response back-up when needed. If the thugs broke and ran, or someone began to fight, I was right around the corner.

Well we’d been doing this for a few weeks, and we’d wrapped up a number of bad guys. We’d also snared about a dozen guns and a fair bit of narcotics. In fact, it was going so well that the local newspaper got hold of it and did a story on it. And this brought the kook brigade out in force.

Now when you’re policing a minority-majority city (one where the population is predominately black) and there is no outrage from the usual suspect who claim to speak for the black community—the local Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson wanna-be types in addition to the NAACP—you’re probably on pretty safe ground. And none of these folks were complaining, because they knew that we were surgically removing from the community the very scumbags who were preying on the decent people and making life hard for the elderly and the single moms who just wanted to get through the day without becoming crime victims. But then the angry white kids showed up.

And these are the fools who run websites like Copwatch and the various Indymedia sites. Self-proclaimed “anarchists”, most are really spoiled suburbanite kids whose parents either don’t know how to raise them to be decent, responsible young adults or they just don’t care. Within a day or two, these little nit-wits are posting all sorts of smack talk on the internet, sending letters to the editor at the newspaper, and posting Xerox-copy fliers around the project telling people to rise up and resist the oppressive police.

Yeah, I know… there’s just no curing stupid.

Well that alone wasn’t really very noteworthy, because everyone knows that there aren’t more than a couple dozen of these little turds in the group, and none of them actually live in our city but only commute in to try to rile things up and then go home to mommy’s and daddy’s basement in one of the more trendy suburbs to watch MTV and play video games in lieu of actually working a job or going to school. But in this case, the kids decided to take it a step further and one day they just appeared in the projects with video cameras, looking for our units or any other signs of police activity, and then dipping in from the sidewalk, telling anyone that we were dealing with that they didn’t have to answer our questions or consent to searches. They basically succeeded in getting us to suspend operations for the day because the unit supervisor didn’t want to give them any publicity by letting them gin up some incident to put on Youtube, so in that regard, they actually accomplished something.

However, a couple of hours after we’d pulled out, some of these little cretins actually walked into our station, looking a bit beaten and battered. It seems that after we’d left, some of those “fine, upstanding people” who live in the projects jumped them and took all of their money and their video cameras—the very cameras that they’d been using to harass US—and roughed them up a bit, either because they didn’t immediately comply or because they displayed some of their trademark “We’re superior to you” attitudes. (I’m betting on the latter.) Now—incredibly—they want to make a police report and they want US to roll back up into the neighborhood in force and recover their stuff for them.

We are, of course, professional enough not to laugh in their faces, but I’m sure they could hear us busting up in the hallway behind our lobby area. Karma can be a real bitch at times, can’t it?
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HT reports;

Dr Sachan, prime accused bled to death:Post mortem report

So whats happening in this case? Why is it attacting attention? From cursory looks the doc was murdered in custody and reported hanged. Same time he is accused of murder of two other docs!

Casual murder and assault has gone up in India.
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^^

A. Media oversensationalises everything

B. This case is truly disgusting

C. Law and order in UP seems to have gone to hell in a handbasket.
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ASPuar wrote:A. Media oversensationalises everything
And.. quitely dissappears from the scene, if later it is found out that the media did not report things in the correct manner at the first place.
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Some of you may recall a case earlier this year, where CBI burst into Army Command hospital Pune, and started some sort of "corruption investigation", but were later thrown out by military authorities, leading to a confrontation, and registration of an FIR by CBI against hospital authorities for obstruction.

I had mentioned then, that it sounded like a cooked up case, on instigation by a local medicine stores supplier. I had also mentioned that I didnt think anything would come of the case.

Here is the latest I could find on the matter:

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/100-d ... t/764871/0

100 days after raid CBI files no chargesheet

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More than three months after the CBI anti-corruption unit raided the Command Hospital and filed an FIR against its medical-stores-in-charge for alleged graft, the agency has neither arrested him nor filed a chargesheet.

The FIR was filed at Wanavadi police station and the 90 days to file chargesheet is over.

CBI superintendent Vidya Kulkarni told this paper on Thursday that media will be told when the chargesheet is filed “Investigation is on... Before we complete it, we cannot reveal the stages,” she said.

Kulkarni said there was no need for it to file the chargesheet within 90 days. “The crime manual of CBI is different,” she said.


Kannan Nambiar, the medical vendor who filed the complaint against the hospital, has approached CBI headquarters. “I have sent a complaint to CBI Delhi regarding inaction of its local unit... but there has been no movement though I have submitted all evidence...,” Nambiar told this paper.

The CBI pointed out that they were awaiting approval from the Army sanctioning authority to move forward. “This apparently takes months. Once we get sanction, we will take appropriate action,” Kulkarni said.

In case the Army denies access to CBI officers, they can declare the stores officer an absconder under Section 82 and 83 of CrPC, said criminal lawyer Sushil Mancharkar. “It can then file a chargesheet under Section 299 (CrPC),” he said.

Nambiar says he perceives a threat to his life but will go on. “I was barred from the tender process of medicine purchase. If you stand up against wrong, this is what happens. I filed two RTI applications. Both were rejected by the hospital commandant. I did not give up. I went to Delhi to file RTI appeals for which I had to waste time and money,” he said. In the letter, Nambiar urged CBI Delhi to provide him justice as in the eyes of the law, a bribe of Rs 20,000 or Rs 2 lakh is equal.

Nambiar has also sent a complaint to the Director-General of Armed Forces Medical Service, New Delhi.
It is interesting. I was unaware that CBI had some "Special" crime manual that overrides the CrPC! Incidentally, the legal "expert" who says that the stores in charge can be declared an 'absconder' under CRPC 82 and 83 is talking nonsense. The stores in charge has gone nowhere, and cannot be declared an absconder.

Meanwhile, I think the case is probably a dud, which is why the CBI is not pursuing it.
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The "lawyer' quoted above is apparently unaware of the following provisions of the CRPC. Furthermore, the CBI in its raid appear to have been unaware of basic preparations and permissions required before raiding a military installation. Maybe this was pointed out to them, and thats why they have dumped the case.
CrPC


Section 45. Protection of members of the Armed Forces from arrest.

(1) Notwithstanding anything contained in sections 41 to 44 (both inclusive), no member of the Armed Forces the Union shall be arrested for anything done or purported to be done by him in the discharge of his official duties except after obtaining the consent of the Central Government.

(2) The State Government may, by notification, direct that the provisions of subsection (1) shall apply to Such class or category of the members of the Force charged with the maintenance of' public order as may be specified therein, wherever they may be serving, and thereupon the provisions of that sub-section the provisions of that sub-section shall apply as if for the expression" Central Government" occurring therein, the expression "State Government" were substituted.
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Meanwhile, this is really unfortunate and avoidable:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 031606.cms

Home they brought the martyrs, in a trash truck

RAIPUR: Killed in a Maoist blast on Sunday, policemen Laxman Bhagat, Aslan Ekka and Bhushan Mandawi were meant to be honoured in their death as martyrs. But on Monday, the small crowd gathered at Dantewada police lines for the guard of honour ceremony was stunned when the coffins of the policemen arrived in a municipal garbage truck.

"The sight of coffins, wrapped in tricolor and wreaths of carnations, emerge from a garbage truck set off a wave of revulsion," said an eyewitness, who did not wish to be named.

But senior policemen defended the choice. "No ambulance was available at the time... It was the only municipality vehicle available," director general of police (DGP) Vishwa Ranjan was quoted by agencies.

The superintendent of police, Dantewada, Ankit Garg, elaborated, "Hospital ambulances were busy rushing the injured policemen to Jagdalpur. Heavy rain had ruled out the use of helicopters. A request was made for the municipal shav wahan, the vehicle to transport the dead. But it was unavailable. Other vehicles were small and did not have enough room for coffins. Given the available resources in Dantewada, this truck was the only option. It was cleaned up and a tarpaulin sheet was placed on top to protect the coffins from the rain. No disrespect was meant. In fact, as policemen, it is painful for us to see our colleagues get killed."

The policemen were killed in a landmine explosion 4km from Kirandul, where the National Mineral Development Corporation (NMDC) runs an iron ore mine. NMDC has a full fledged township, complete with offices, residences, hospitals and other facilities.

"The local administration and police regularly asks NMDC to supply vehicles for their routine use as well as VIP visits. Why could they not ask the firm to send its vehicles to transport the coffins of martyrs? This just shows the double standards of the administration, which refers to dead policemen as shaheed, but treats them as dirt," said Suresh Mahapatra, the editor of Dantewada-based Hindi daily, Bastar Impact.


Later, the coffins were transferred to an ambulance to be taken to their native villages. Two of the policemen hailed from Jashpur, in North Chhattisgarh, 700km from Dantewada in the south of the state. En route, the ambulance broke down in Raigarh. It took six hours for alternative vehicles to be arranged.

More than 25 policemen have been killed in Dantewada in the first six months of 2011.
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Meanwhile, media is blaring in the Maria Susairaj case that the murderer, Jerome, was a Naval officer... as far as I know he is a merchant navy employee, and was never a naval officer.
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ASPuar wrote:Meanwhile, media is blaring in the Maria Susairaj case that the murderer, Jerome, was a Naval officer... as far as I know he is a merchant navy employee, and was never a naval officer.
Jerome seems to be an Indian Navy Officer. The case is that he had flown from Kochi Naval Base to "deal" with Neeraj Grover. (Link:India Today)
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Huh, guess I was wrong.

What a disaster for this Jerome fellow. He had everything going for him... a brilliant academic career, a promising future as a naval officer. What a pity that he ended up getting engaged to such a wrong sort of a woman! Or at least, thats what the article implies... If she was carrying on an affair with Grover simply to get a bigger role, thats pretty pathetic.

The case is startlingly similar to that of Commander Nanavati, which happened in the 1950s.

There, a naval officer shot dead a man carrying on an affair with his English wife. He was acquitted by the jury, but convicted on appeal. He was eventually pardoned by the President.

The judge too seems to have sympathy with Lt EJ Mathew, though he had to convict him for the offence under S/299 IPC...

I too can sympathise with him... Im not sure there are many men who would not be powerfully effected if they found a naked man in their fiancees bedroom!

Im not sure what the deal is, but surely his lawyer could have employed the defence of Sudden Fight...
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ASPuar wrote:There, a naval officer shot dead a man carrying on an affair with his English wife. He was acquitted by the jury, but convicted on appeal. He was eventually pardoned by the President.
Yes. And I feel with this case the "Trial by Jury system" (favourite of Rahul Mehta) was abolished in India. Heard that this case had become a fight between the two powerful communities; Sindhis and Parsis. Ram Jethmalani, if I am not mistaken was the lawyer for Cmdr. Nanavati. And the last I heard was that Cmdr. Nanavati and his family migrated to Canada.
Im not sure what the deal is, but surely his lawyer could have employed the defence of Sudden Fight...
If I read the reports correctly, he was charged under "Culpable Homicide Not amounting to murder". So the issue of sudden provocation may have got used in Jerome's defence. Also he may have to sit in prison only for 7 years, because some of the sentences run concurrently. But I feel he can kiss good bye to Indian Navy for ever.
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Ah, that must be it. The partial defence of sudden and grave provocation must have been used to reduce it from 300 to 299...

Yes, the Nanavati case was the one which led to abolition of RMs Jurysys. It was Sindhis v Parsis, and Ram Jethamalani was counsel for defense...
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CB-CID takes over probe into boy’s death
Any updates on this case? I remember a statement from the senior officers at Chennai that in the area, they only post civilian guards and they are not armed. Also they could also check the bullet wound, and perhaps find the type of the weapon which was fired.
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^^^ One this shooting case. Looks like the Army authorities may have to answer some tough questions.
Boy's death: CB-CID closing in on suspect
Parrying questions whether the agency had narrowed down on a senior Army official, he said all possible angles would be thoroughly investigated and any conclusion would be made based on indisputable evidence.

Meanwhile, the Army authorities in a statement issued here on Tuesday said all Army personnel in the vicinity (of the firing) and Civilian Security Guard on duty in the compound on Sunday were made available for joint investigation. The General Officer Commanding, Chennai Area, said “no guilty person will be shielded”.

Boy's death: PIL petition seeks action against accused
And there is immense pressure on the police to make an arrest quickly.
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All sorts of claptrap being spouted by persons who were not at the spot is being touted as fact. Everyone from the boys great uncle to MDMK politicians are acting as if they are forensic experts. It is to the credit of the police that they are acting with great restraint and not making any statements to the public beyond that they are working on finding out the truth.
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