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Big blast at a military bakery in Naushera Cantt
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Rajiv Lather wrote:Big blast at a military bakery in Naushera Cantt
AOA!!!!
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Hamza Taliban commander of Mullah Nazir killed with IK
The US drone strike that killed dreaded al-Qaeda-linked terrorist Ilyas Kashmiri in Pakistan's restive tribal belt has also eliminated top Taliban commander Amir Hamza.
Kashmiri, a key suspect in the Mumbai attacks, and Hamza were among nine militants killed in the drone strike in Laman village, 20 km from Wana, one of the main towns of South Waziristan tribal agency on Friday night. Three other militants were injured in the attack.
Witnesses reportedly saw the bodies of the militants killed in the drone strike lying in an apple orchard on Saturday morning. Local residents buried the bodies in a graveyard in the same area.
Hamza, a resident of Wana, was commander of the Mullah Nazir faction of the Taliban, local reports said.
Mullah Nazir has an agreement with the government and many Punjabi Taliban fighters are believed to be living in Wana and surrounding areas that are controlled by his group.
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Good news, hindu zionist plan to sterilize future of pakistan foiled http://www.dawn.com/2011/06/05/anti-pol ... issed.html
:mrgreen:
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Pakistan probably aided Kashmiri killing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCDEJMOaMo8
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Rajiv Lather wrote:Big blast at a military bakery in Naushera Cantt
a very common phrase used on the streets: "score kitna hai?"
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Rajiv Lather wrote:Big blast at a military bakery in Naushera Cantt
Too much yeast resulted in pressure buildup lead to buns exploding
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rajanb wrote:Pakistan probably aided Kashmiri killing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCDEJMOaMo8
Wasnt it claimed pakistan army aided abbottabad attack then it was retracted?

Same tactic, keep people guessing whether pakistan is hunting with hounds or running with hares :mrgreen:
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There is a ‘98 per cent’ chance Kashmiri is dead: Malik :rotfl:
A US National Security official said he could not confirm that he had been killed and another US official said it was doubtful.
One intelligence official said that Pakistan had tipped off the Americans about the whereabouts of Kashmiri, whom the US Department of State has labelled a “specially designated global terrorist”.
{more likely they "tipped off" IK about American plans}
Before his death, Shahzad wrote an article stating that Kashmiri’s followers carried out a militant siege of the PNS Mehran naval base in Karachi last month which drew sharp public criticism of the Pakistani military
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^in other words "there is a chance IK is not dead"...
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Satya_anveshi wrote:There is a ‘98 per cent’ chance Kashmiri is dead: Malik :rotfl: {Snipped}..................
Rehman Malik certainly seems to have taken a leaf out of the former military dictator of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Gen. Musharraf in proclaiming his certitude of an event by using percentiles :wink: .

To go with the 98% we also have a 200% :lol: :

Pak nukes ''200 per cent safe'': Malik
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Two fire engines of Cantt Board reached the spot in double quick time. About 10 min after the blast the bakery caught fire due to gas leakage. When asked to put out the fire, the fire crew realized they had no water in the fire engines !!!!
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Fire Engines in Pakiland come in the end. High pressure water jets to hose down the area.
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arun wrote:
Satya_anveshi wrote:There is a ‘98 per cent’ chance Kashmiri is dead: Malik :rotfl: {Snipped}..................
Rehman Malik certainly seems to have taken a leaf out of the former military dictator of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Gen. Musharraf in proclaiming his certitude of an event by using percentiles :wink: .

To go with the 98% we also have a 200% :lol: :

Pak nukes ''200 per cent safe'': Malik
I think there is a scope of a research article regarding the "percentages of varying certitude in pakiland"
what is 98%
what is 99%
100%, 200%,400% etc..
It might give a clue to how much certainty they actually are speaking!
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Altair wrote:I think there is a scope of a research article regarding the "percentages of varying certitude in pakiland"
what is 98%
what is 99%
100%, 200%,400% etc..
It might give a clue to how much certainty they actually are speaking!
Any time they are quoting percentages - does not matter what % - they mean 0%. In their zeal to usurp the credit for invention of zero, which people assign to India, they are extending the meaning of zero to mean many things. So, 98%=0%; 99%=0%; 200%, 400% = definitely 0%; BTW: a paki will never say 100% or cent per cent because they think it is not perfect.
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HuJI releases photo of Ilyas Kashmiri.

Even if this is the guy and he is dead, I'm curious why a terror group would be so eager to publish the photo of its Predatorized "ameer".

I'm even more convinced that HuJI is basically part of the ISI and once orders came from top to sacrifice IK, the foot soliders are trying to do the utmost to prove that they did the job.
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Raghavendra wrote:
rajanb wrote:Pakistan probably aided Kashmiri killing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCDEJMOaMo8
Wasnt it claimed pakistan army aided abbottabad attack then it was retracted?

Same tactic, keep people guessing whether pakistan is hunting with hounds or running with hares :mrgreen:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/ ... UK20110502
(Reuters) - Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the Sept 11, 2001 attacks that killed almost 3,000 people and put the United States on a decade-long war footing, was killed late Sunday night in Abbotabad by a joint American and Pakistani team, senior security officials said on Monday.

"Yes, I can confirm that," one senior intelligence official told Reuters, but declined to give further details.

Another security official in Peshawar confirmed it was a joint operation between CIA and Pakistani security forces.
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^^ Thats photo of one of the dead pigs from mumbai attack.
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vdutta wrote:^^ Thats photo of one of the dead pigs from mumbai attack.
no thats not mumbai attacker
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^^ yes it is. i never forget faces of pigs
http://www.rfi.fr/actuen/articles/108/article_2293.asp
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Nicely done, Dutta ji.

Now to track the original story where it was claimed this was the piglet Kashmiri.

Edit: It was claimed in the link quoted above:

http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-ma ... _of_il.php

which in turn sourced it from:

http://news.siteintelgroup.com/

This is a paid service and i cannot go any further into the site than the url above.

But if the picture in question has indeed been released by HuJI, this would lead to the tentative conclusion that Kashmiri is perhaps not dead.
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Finally Pakistan hits the headlines in America
They know in detail how Pakistan works.

Our Fantasy Nation?
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Baikul wrote:Nicely done, Dutta ji.

Now to track the original story where it was claimed this was the piglet Kashmiri.

Edit: It was claimed in the link quoted above:

http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-ma ... _of_il.php

which in turn sourced it from:

http://news.siteintelgroup.com/

This is a paid service and i cannot go any further into the site than the url above.

But if the picture in question has indeed been released by HuJI, this would lead to the tentative conclusion that Kashmiri is perhaps not dead.
either huji gets their stock photos from iran or some one sold them wrong picture.
such a shame that a website which charges hundreds of dollars to read its articles would not even verify the source.
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Why would they bother releasing such an amateur photo? Something doesn't sit right.
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Pay attention, you paklurks.. this poem is by our ex-prime minister, specially for you.. this was when you were selling your freedom to USA in 1980, our Bhishma was warning you for your good, not to do so.. but, now that you already have effed yourselves, enjoy the shayri dedicated to you... Visualize the doomed future of Pakistan in flowering and flaming poetry of Shri A.B.Vajpayee

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vdutta wrote:^^ yes it is. i never forget faces of pigs
http://www.rfi.fr/actuen/articles/108/article_2293.asp
Brilliant vdutta ji. So, we still await the photua.
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This whole post is OT - It's been a while that I've listened to Atalji, he really was the benchmark for public speaking wasn't he? Just amazing oratory.

In fact that generation had some outstanding public speakers. I remember just after Babri Masjid, I had managed to wangle a seat in the viewers gallery in the Lok Sabha, and listened to Atalji speak up in defense of what happened that day. My memory is now hazy, but IIRC this was the first LS session after the Babri Masjid incident.

Atalji spoke for what felt like 15 minutes, but when I looked at my watch 2 hours had passed. In a charged house, he spoke in pin drop silence, not one Congress MP had interrupted him, such was his aura.

And then he was followed by - of all people - Arjun Singh. In a quiet, almost monotone delivery, Arjun Singh then proceeded to cut down Atalji's entire speech in - believe it or not- two sentences. I'm not saying who was right or wrong, I'm just speaking of the high levels of debate.

I'll try to get this post on topic now. Paklurks, I saw a few Pakistani pols make speeches on TV back in the day. Nawaz Sharif spoke like a Punjabi pimp on a street corner, Benazir was all public school girl chi chi hysteria, Musharraf spoke like a thug, and Altaf of course was utterly bonkers. Your lot wouldn't know oratory and public debate even if it was handed to you with a copy of the Koran.
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The Battle for Pakistan
By Bruce Riedel

http://www.realclea rworld.com/ articles/ 2011/06/03/ the_battle_ for_pakistan_ 99542.html

The struggle for control of Pakistan - soon to be the fifth most populous country in the world with the fifth largest nuclear arsenal - intensifies every day. The outcome is far from certain. The key player, Pakistan's army, seems dangerously ambivalent about which side should prevail: the jihadist Frankenstein it created or the democratically elected civilian government it despises.
The American commando raid that killed Osama bin Laden on May 2nd accelerated the struggle underway inside Pakistan to determine the country's future. Contrary to some assessments, Pakistan is neither a failed state nor a failing state. It functions as effectively today as in decades past. Rather it is a state under siege from a radical syndicate of terror groups loosely aligned together with the goal of creating an extremist jihadist state in south Asia. They want to hijack Pakistan and its weapons.

Less than a hundred hours after the Abbottabad raid, Al Qaeda's shura council, its command centre, announced the group was declaring war on Pakistan and the "traitors and thieves" in the government who had betrayed the "martyr shaykh" bin Laden to the Americans. It was ironic since many Americans suspect the Pakistani army was actually complicit in abetting bin Laden's successful evasion of the largest manhunt in human history for 10 years. That both Al Qaeda and America distrust the Pakistani army speaks volumes.


Since then Al Qaeda and its allies in Pakistan have carried out their threat with a vengeance. Suicide bombings and other terror attacks have occurred across the country. The worst was an attack on a major Pakistani navy base in Karachi, a heavily guarded facility where both US and Chinese experts assist the navy. Two US-made P3 surveillance aircraft were destroyed in the attack. The assailants had insider knowledge of the base, and Pakistani security has arrested former naval personnel accused of helping the attackers.

The Karachi attack illustrates the essence of the battle for Pakistan today. The militants support Al Qaeda, but were members of its ally the Pakistani Taliban. Their goal was to humiliate the navy. The navy fought back, but is riddled with jihadist sympathizers who help the militants.

A Pakistani journalist, Syed Salman Shahzad, wrote an expose after the attack of the jihadist penetration of the military, especially the navy. He received threatening calls from the military's intelligence service, the notorious Inter Services Intelligence directorate, telling him to stop reporting on the issue, and was murdered shortly afterward.
The Pakistani army is genuinely at war with parts of the syndicate of jihadi terror in Pakistan like Al Qaeda and the Taliban. It has more than 140,000 troops engaged in operations against the militants along the Afghan border. Some 35,000 Pakistanis including several thousand soldiers have died in the fighting since 2001, the equivalent of a dozen 911s. Dozens of ISI men have died.

But the ISI is also still in bed with other parts of the syndicate like Lashkar e Tayyiba, the group that attacked Mumbai in 2008, and the Afghan Taliban that fights NATO. Despite years of American complaints, those partnerships are still intact. But the terrorists don't stay in the lanes the ISI wants them to stay in. For example, both LeT and the Taliban eulogized bin Laden after his death and mourned the departure of a great "hero" of their movements.

The army's ambivalence about the jihad flows from its deep obsession with India. Pakistan - with American help - created the jihad in the 1980s to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan. But from the start the ISI, commanded by then dictator Zia ul Huq and his brilliant ISI director general Akhtar Rahman, planed to use jihadi groups against India as well and build an international cadre of mujahedin to help fight India. Over the decades the "S" Department of ISI established close connections with scores of jihadi groups, becoming a state within ISI, which in turn is a state within the army. The army decides national-security policy with little or no input from the political establishment.

General Nadeem Taj exemplifies the story. Taj was former dictator Pervez Musharraf's right-hand man. They were together in 1999 when Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif fired Musharraf as chief of army staff while he was returning by plane from a visit to Sri Lanka. Taj orchestrated the coup that put Musharraf in power from the plane and was rewarded with several key jobs including in 2006 command of the Kakul Military Academy in Abbottabad, Pakistan's West Point or Sandhurst.It was on his watch as commandant of the academy that bin Laden moved into his hideout less than a mile away. Was Taj clueless or complicit?
In September 2007 Taj became DG/ISI replacing General Ashfaq Kayani who was promoted chief of army staff (COAS). Taj lasted less than a year before he was removed under intense pressure from Washington. The Bush administration had concluded that Taj's ISI was directly involved in the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul in 2008 and was undermining the new drone program to attack Al Qaeda targets inside Pakistan by warning the terrorists before attacks. Taj was regarded as either unable to rein in the S Department or complicit in its duplicity.


Nonetheless, Taj was promoted to command a key corps in the army, the highest command level short of COAS. Now he has been accused of complicity in the planning of the Mumbai attack by several family members of the American victims of the terror rampage in a New York court case. It was on Taj's watch as DG/ISI that the attack was carefully planned by the LeT and the targets, including the Chabad house where most of the Americans died, were selected. David Headley, an American of Pakistani origin, has testified that the ISI was directly involved in the plot, and the US Department of Justice has assembled an impressive body of emails and other evidence that backs up his claims.

The jihadist penetrations of the army raise persistent questions about the security of Pakistan's nukes. According to a WikiLeaked State Department cable, from September 2009, France's national security adviser Jean-David Levitte told the American Embassy in Paris that France believes it is not secure. Levitte is one of the most astute diplomats in the world today, and he is almost certainly right.

The policies that would help wean the Pakistani army off its obsession with India and jihad are well known. A concerted effort to end the Indo-Pakistani conflict is essential. Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, despite Mumbai, is trying to do just that. But it is a hard challenge. Talks to resolve the relatively simple issue of the disputed Siachen Glacier, the world's highest war zone at the roof of the Himalayas, failed again in May. The harder issue, Kashmir, will probably take years to resolve at best.

But we don't have years. Only a fortnight before the Abbottabad raid, General Kayani gave a speech at the military academy in the city, almost within earshot of bin Laden. In his remarks Kayani claimed the back of the militant syndicate in Pakistan had been broken and the army had triumphed. It is now clear he was badly mistaken.

Bruce Riedel is a senior fellow at the Saban Center in the Brookings Institution and adjunct professor at the School for Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University. His most recent book, Deadly Embrace: Pakistan, America and the Future of the Global Jihad, came out in March.
Copyright: 2011 Yale Center for the Study of Globalization. YaleGlobal Online.
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Atri wrote:Pay attention, you paklurks.. this poem is by our ex-prime minister, specially for you.. this was when you were selling your freedom to USA in 1980, our Bhishma was warning you for your good, not to do so..
Atri-ji,

Is this video from the 1980 time-frame? Looks recent -- ABV-ji looks a lot older than he did in 1980. Also, he mentions the 10-20 arab $$ which is the amount talked about today.
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vdutta wrote:^^ Thats photo of one of the dead pigs from mumbai attack.
Good call! Thanks for the smart work and spotting the obvious ISI fakery attempt.

I'm more and more convinced now that Kashmiri is alive and is being protected by the pigs.
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Atriji - Many Many Many.. Thanks. Indeed very good poem.

Thanks google, here are the words:
एक नहीं दो नहीं करो बीसों समझौते, पर स्वतन्त्र भारत का मस्तक नहीं झुकेगा ।
अगणित बलिदानो से अर्जित यह स्वतन्त्रता, अस्रु स्वेद शोणित से सिंचित यह स्वतन्त्रता ।
त्याग तेज तपबल से रक्षित यह स्वतन्त्रता, दु:खी मनुजता के हित अर्पित यह स्वतन्त्रता ।
इसे मिटाने की साजिश करने वालों से कह दो, चिनगारी का खेल बुरा होता है ।
औरों के घर आग लगाने का जो सपना, वो अपने ही घर में सदा खरा होता है ।
अपने ही हाथों तुम अपनी कब्र ना खोदो, अपने पैरों आप कुल्हाडी नहीं चलाओ।
ओ नादान पडोसी अपनी आँखे खोलो, आजादी अनमोल ना इसका मोल लगाओ।
पर तुम क्या जानो आजादी क्या होती है? तुम्हे मुफ़्त में मिली न कीमत गयी चुकाई ।
अंग्रेजों के बल पर दो टुकडे पाये हैं, माँ को खंणित करते तुमको लाज ना आई ?
अमरीकी शस्त्रों से अपनी आजादी को दुनिया में कायम रख लोगे, यह मत समझो ।
दस बीस अरब डालर लेकर आने वाली बरबादी से तुम बच लोगे यह मत समझो ।
धमकी, जिहाद के नारों से, हथियारों से कश्मीर कभी हथिया लोगे यह मत समझो ।
हमलो से, अत्याचारों से, संघारों से भारत का शीश झुका लोगे यह मत समझो ।
जब तक गंगा मे धार, सिंधु मे ज्वार, अग्नि में जलन, सूर्य में तपन शेष,
स्वातन्त्र्य समर की वेदी पर अर्पित होंगे अगणित जीवन यौवन अशेष ।
अमरीका क्या संसार भले ही हो विरुद्ध, काश्मीर पर भारत का सर नही झुकेगा
एक नहीं दो नहीं करो बीसों समझौते, पर स्वतन्त्र भारत का निश्चय नहीं रुकेगा ।
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Wow, thanks Atriji. Sashtang Pranams to Vajpayeeji. What an energy? awesome.

yo paklurks.. well, forget it :lol:
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From The News:

Pakistan has only 2.5 percent of forest cover with an alarming rate of deforestation. The annual rate of deforestation in Pakistan is -2.1 percent, no Asian country has a forest degradation rate higher than this. The largest conversions of forest land have taken place in Punjab and Sindh, corresponding to 99,711 acres and 27,874 acres respectively.
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Atri wrote:Pay attention, you paklurks.. this poem is by our ex-prime minister, specially for you.. this was when you were selling your freedom to USA in 1980, our Bhishma was warning you for your good, not to do so.. but, now that you already have effed yourselves, enjoy the shayri dedicated to you... Visualize the doomed future of Pakistan in flowering and flaming poetry of Shri A.B.Vajpayee

Brilliant words by Atalji. And none truer. Thank you.
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Airavat wrote:From The News:

Pakistan has only 2.5 percent of forest cover with an alarming rate of deforestation. The annual rate of deforestation in Pakistan is -2.1 percent, no Asian country has a forest degradation rate higher than this. The largest conversions of forest land have taken place in Punjab and Sindh, corresponding to 99,711 acres and 27,874 acres respectively.
That means more floods

I had grabbed these images off Googal Yearth after the floods last year. Click on thumbnail
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 30, 20

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Satya_anveshi wrote:There is a ‘98 per cent’ chance Kashmiri is dead: Malik :rotfl:
A US National Security official said he could not confirm that he had been killed and another US official said it was doubtful.
One intelligence official said that Pakistan had tipped off the Americans about the whereabouts of Kashmiri, whom the US Department of State has labelled a “specially designated global terrorist”.
{more likely they "tipped off" IK about American plans}
Before his death, Shahzad wrote an article stating that Kashmiri’s followers carried out a militant siege of the PNS Mehran naval base in Karachi last month which drew sharp public criticism of the Pakistani military

Cheney had the 1% chance doctrine.

Even if its 1% chance of TSP hand then there is 100% chance of mischief.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 30, 20

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Rehman Malik: Kashmiri [quietly: the elephant] is 98% dead. Dronacharya, won't you lay down your arms and sit in meditation?
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