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Brad Goodman wrote:What is going on guys a few days ago some dubai based Indian business man paid ransom for some paki sailors and now this
Thanks to Pakistan, Indian sailors gain freedom
Six Indian sailors held captive by Somali pirates for 10 long months are finally free, thanks to a respected Pakistani rights activist, officials said Tuesday. The families of the Indians offered their heartfelt thanks to the Pakistanis while denouncing Indian politicians for their alleged indifference.

The six Indians, part of a 22-member crew of Egyptian merchant vessel MV Suez, were released after ransom was paid for their freedom by the shipowners, the family members of the sailors said. MV Suez was hijacked by pirates in the Gulf of Aden Aug 2, 2010.

Pakistani activist Ansar Burney, who negotiated with the pirates and raised ransom money through donations, announced in Karachi that all the men had been freed. He said they would reach their homes in a few days.
Sirjee you are confusing the one who negotiated with the one who paid the ransom. The ransom money was paid by the ships owners but they used the services of Pakistani activist Ansar Burney to negotiate down the initial ransom demand to $2.1 million.

From the article link :
Apart from the 11 Egyptians, four Pakistanis and one Sri Lankan, the Indians include two from Haryana and one each from Himachal Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Jammu and Kashmir and Mumbai.
so there were 4 TSPians who were held hostage and also from the article.
Arya was very critical of the Indian government.

'Burney raised funds with the help of the Pakistan government. Here, the Indian government let us down. We met many leaders but nobody helped. They said paying ransom is not the right way. I have lost my faith in Indian politicians,' she said.

Said Rajender Gulia, her father-in-law: 'Pakistan has helped us like an elder brother. We had lost all hopes as no Indian politician was ready to help us. Saving a human life was not important for them. Pakistan emerged as a saviour for us.'

Indian External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna welcomed the release of the sailors but parried questions on the Pakistani involvement.

'We are happy they have been released and the ship is now moving out,' Krishna told reporters in New Delhi.

'Let us not get into a speculative analysis on who is behind it and who is provoking it.'
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Surprising India does'nt have one till date..one is in the making though.
Currently, the Indian Penal Code (IPC) covers criminal acts that outrage or insult the ‘modesty’ of women. It does not cover situations which could create a hostile or difficult environment for women at the work place.

In 1997 as part of the Vishaka judgment, the Supreme Court drew upon the CEDAW and laid down specific guidelines on the prevention of sexual harassment of women at the work place.1 The Vishaka guidelines defined sexual harassment and codified preventive measures and redressal mechanisms to be undertaken by employers.

A draft Bill was circulated by the Ministry of Women and Child Development for public feedback in 2007. The current Bill establishes a framework to be followed by all employers to address the issue of sexual harassment.
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After how INC politicised the IC 814 hijack in 1999 with their media minions, they are now wary of being at the recieveing end of similar charge from NDA or other political group. So dont expect any GOI to negotiate with kidnappers.

You have INC minions, even on this forum, who will raise the issue again and again.
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saip wrote:
The government has targeted a budget deficit of Rs851 billion, or four percent of the GDP
So they are assuming the total Paki GDP to be about $250 billion. Really?
Prem wrote:
BijuShet wrote:From The News an opinion piece on TSPs budget difficulties. Grab pop corn and watch the show unfold. A non-serious budget
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Any idea how and when did their GDP grew to 230Bill plus?
Saars Wiki link says: Economy of Pakistan
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Statistics : GDP $174.8 billion (nominal)(2010)
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Looks like TSP e-con-omy is suffering from pindiflation as it bubbles from $175B to $250B in one year!
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Brad Goodman wrote:What is going on guys a few days ago some dubai based Indian business man paid ransom for some paki sailors and now this
Thanks to Pakistan, Indian sailors gain freedom
Six Indian sailors held captive by Somali pirates for 10 long months are finally free, thanks to a respected Pakistani rights activist, officials said Tuesday. The families of the Indians offered their heartfelt thanks to the Pakistanis while denouncing Indian politicians for their ...
To add to this from Somaliareport. The Panama-flagged general cargo ship was hijacked by pirates along with her 23 multi-national crew on 2nd August 2010 in Indian Ocean while under way to Eretria travelling from Pakistan laden with cement. The question to ask and ponder is who told the pitrates about the Ship, its cargo, the voyage route, it's up to date location along with the date and time to intercept? Then compare that to S M Krishna's comments in the article above. It looks like some TSPian fingured the ship to the hijackers.

Piracy REPORT - MV SUEZ Owners Willing To Pay Ransom
Ransom Offered, Pirates Change Their Minds
By ANDREW MWANGURA 03/09/2011

An Egyptian diplomatic official says that the Egyptian managers of the Panama flagged MV SUEZ are willing to pay a ransom for their ship to ensure the safety of the vessel, crew and cargo.

Speaking over the phone from the Egyptian Embassy in Nairobi he told Somalia Report on Wednesday that the ship managers have offered to pay ransom long time ago, but the gunmen have been keeping on changing their mind.

Initially the gunmen were demanding US $5 million ransom to release the vessel and her crew, before scaling up and down their demands, the diplomatic official said.

The Panama-flagged general cargo ship was hijacked by pirates along with her 23 multi-national crew on 2nd August 2010 in Indian Ocean while under way to Eretria from Pakistan laden with cement.

Her multinational crew is comprised of Egyptians, Indians and Sir Lankan nationals.
The 17,300 ton ship carrying cement for Eretria came under gun fire attack while transiting the recommended transit corridor.

She is operated by Port Said based Red Sea Navigation Company.

The commercial manager of the firm Mr. Mohamed Abdel Meguid told the press that the firm paid a US$ 1.5 million ransom in 2009 to secure the release of her sister-ship the AL MANSOURA and her crew.

AL MANSOURA was hijacked by pirates along with her 25 strong Egyptian seafarers in September 2008

The ship was hijacked by 30 gunmen whom demanded ransom as well as the cargo; it is said that she left behind 15,000 tons of cement to the captors.

A report released last year by the Chatham House shows that the Suez Canal could be in jeopardy of losing revenue due to the intensification of piracy attacks along the coast of Somalia and the Gulf of Aden.

The US based NGO One Earth Foundation says that Egypt is losing US$ 6.42 million annually due to ships re-routing away from the Gulf of Aden because of pirates.
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Here is Najam Sethi's latest talk show episode (3rd part) , in the last few minutes he talks why Salim Shehzad was killed by ISI coz in his book SS talks extensively about Maj. Haroon who perpetrated the Mumbai attacks and in an interview given to Salim Shehzad the scum Haroon states that the motive behind Mumbai attacks was to cause IA & PA to fight thereby taking pressure off of TSPA to do ops in North Waziristan. What both Jehad Sethi & Salim Shehzad forgot to mention was that Maj. Haroon wasn't working on his own but under the guidance of TSPA & ISI.
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Eight wounded as police open fire on doctors’ protest in occupied Balochistan
QUETTA: At least eight doctors were injured when police opened fire on their procession in Quetta on Tuesday, DawnNews reported.

The doctors were marching toward the Chief Minister’s residence.

One of the wounded doctors was in critical condition.

At least 50 doctors were also arrested after police baton-charged and shelled the participants of the march.

The doctors in Balochistan have been on strike for the past couple of weeks to press the government to accept their demands.

They want their salary and perks to be at par with those of doctors in the other provinces.
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Power riots continue as KESC snubs PM body
On Monday when the mercury was 36 degrees Celsius with 56 per cent humidity, residents of PECHS Block 2 and 6 took to the streets to give vent to their anger by burning tyres and creating roadblocks as they were again subjected to prolonged outages after they had gone through more than 14 hours of electricity breakdowns.

The worst-affected areas included North Karachi, New Karachi, Sindhi Muslim Society, Khudadad Colony, parts of Gulistan-i-Jauhar and Gulshan-i-Iqbal, Al-Hilal Society, Jubilee, Clifton, Malir, Landhi, Korangi and Orangi.

A street protest was also staged at Akhtar Colony, where power outages have fuelled water shortages.

While the agony of sleepless nights caused by lack of power supply was becoming unbearable, the cost of damaged electrical appliances due to sudden outages and fluctuations was making things even worse.
Even Daud Bhai isn't immune from the long arm of load shedding.
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And puki connection comes up in 3,2,1....

In tomorows The Times (UK) print edition -
"Young girls lured with drink were 'sold for sex'"

http://twitpic.com/5bm05r/full

Another article on this - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... girls.html

This isn't a new story though. There was a bbc documentary too earlier - As Sick as only a puki can get! Widespread sexual exploitation of underage girls!

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House panel OKs defense bill, limits Pakistan aid
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110614/ap_ ... e_spending
WASHINGTON – Frustrated with Pakistan's fight in the war on terrorism and the long-running war in Afghanistan, a House panel on Tuesday approved a defense spending bill that would impose limits on U.S. aid to Islamabad and would create a special bipartisan group to examine America's future role in the conflict.
The bill provides the money for the military's ships, aircraft, tanks and personnel, and largely tracks the defense blueprint that the House approved last month. It reflects both the war fatigue even among the most hawkish lawmakers and the widespread doubts about Pakistan's reliability in counter-terrorism. The U.S. raid and killing of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden deep inside Pakistan has left many lawmakers questioning Islamabad's eagerness and whether billions in American financial assistance is being wasted.The defense spending bill would withhold 75 percent of the $1.1 billion in U.S. aid to Pakistan until the administration reports to Congress on how it would spend the money. The committee on Tuesday went a step further, adopting an amendment by Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., that would give Congress 30 days to review the report before deciding whether the money should be spent.Pakistan's "performance or non-performance rubs a lot of people the wrong way," Flake said. The panel approved the amendment by voice vote
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Why Pakistan’s Ship Is Sinking
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In March, Kayani and Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha became the focus of criticism from hardliners inside and outside the military for their decision to release CIA contractor Raymond Davis after he killed two Pakistanis in Lahore.

Things got even worse at the beginning of May, when a US Navy Seals raid showed that Osama bin Laden was living in Abbottabad, deep within the Pakistani heartland. Both inside Pakistan and overseas, the Pakistani military was seen as either complicit – through the hiding of bin Laden, or in the raid that killed him – or incompetent, for failing to realize he was there in the first place. Calls grew for the two to step down.

In the middle of last month, the trial of Tahawwur Rana, a Pakistani-Canadian accused of involvement in the 2008 Mumbai attacks, began in Chicago. In the court of international public opinion, the ISI was effectively Rana’s co-defendant.

A week later, it was the military that was back in the spotlight, when terrorists waged a sophisticated assault on a Pakistani naval base in Karachi, destroying two US-supplied naval reconnaissance planes.

Finally, at the end of May, Syed Saleem Shahzad, a Pakistani reporter who wrote on the jihadist infiltration of the Pakistani Navy, was killed. Some have alleged it was the ISI’s work.
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US establishes contact with Mullah Omar

Updated : Tuesday June 14 , 2011

ISLAMABAD: The United States has established contacts with elusive Taliban leader Mullah Omar to negotiate an end to the conflict in Afghanistan. A former Afghan Taliban spokesman has played a key role in the US-Taliban communication, media reports said.

Abdul Haqiq, who was operating under the alias of Dr Mohammad Hanif as an Afghan Taliban spokesman, is said to have helped Washington reach out to Mullah Omar.

Dr Hanif was arrested by US and Afghan intelligence agents from a secret location in Afghanistan in June 2007. He was one of the high-profile Afghan Taliban spokesmen along with Yousuf Ahmadi, appointed after chief spokesman Abdul Latif Hakimi was arrested in October 2005 in Pakistan.

So far, several claims have been made by the US about negotiations with the Taliban but Islamabad and Kabul have never been taken into confidence over the much speculated talks.

According to reports, the US had offered the Taliban control over the south of Afghanistan, while leaving the north for the other political forces under American influence. However, this was rejected by the Taliban.

“The acceptance of such a proposal could not be possible for the Taliban as it could lead to the disintegration of Afghanistan,” said former Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief Gen (retd) Hamid Gul.

However, a Pakistani diplomat in Kabul remains optimistic about the talks. “The Taliban are aware that it will be difficult to defeat foreign troops in Afghanistan, or capture the entire country,” he said, adding, “Similarly, the US is also aware that it cannot defeat the Taliban in the next few years.”

On the other hand, a senior official in the Foreign Office is not as sure of the success of the US-Taliban talks. “Such talks are bound to fail as Washington is trying to achieve its goals without taking Karzai into confidence. If at all the Afghan Taliban agree to the reconciliation talks, their preference will be with Afghan leaders over foreign forces,” the official argued.

Central Asian diplomats in Islamabad have also expressed their doubts about the practicality of the US-Taliban talks.

“On the one hand, the US is building six permanent military bases in Afghanistan, and on the other, talking about the withdrawal of its troops from the country,” an ambassador of a Central Asian state was quoted by a Foreign Office official as saying .

Iranian and Russian diplomats in Islamabad are also doubtful of an actual and meaningful US-led foreign troops’ pullout from Afghanistan.

Meanwhile, chief of the Afghan High Peace Council Prof. Burhanuddin Rabbani told the Afghan House of Representatives earlier this month that his council had made contacts with the Afghan Taliban. He further told the house that the Taliban were not willing to trust the Afghan government’s reconciliation process. “The Taliban nurse doubts about Kabul’s initiative,” he said.

The council during the last five years also contacted other armed opposition leaders such as Gulbuddin Hekmatyar as well as the Haqqani network, Rabbani claimed.

The council had previously said it had made direct and indirect contacts with the Afghan Taliban leadership, but the Taliban still seem to be insistent on their call for a withdrawal of US and Nato forces from Afghanistan as a pre-condition for talks with Kabul.

However, the Afghan parliament said that the achievements of the council have so far been satisfactory.

Former Pakistani ambassador to Afghanistan Rustum Shah Mohmand is also doubtful about the sincerity on the part of Kabul for the success of the so-called Afghan reconciliation effort. Mohmand told The Express Tribune that those who are enjoying government privileges in Afghanistan are not interested in the success of the effort.

“In real terms, such privileged people are opposed to the withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan as they are very well aware that they will also have to pack up as soon as foreign troops are withdrawn,” he observed. (Courtesy: Tribune)

http://www.arynews.tv/english/newsdetail.asp?nid=46524
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ramana wrote:Looks like TSP e-con-omy is suffering from pindiflation as it bubbles from $175B to $250B in one year!
Ahh. . .that reminds me of the complex mathematics and logic that GoP employed a few years back to explain to the rest of the world how Pakistan was generating a few billion dollars every year from export of software & IT services and how they were well on their way to overtaking the SDRE. Very TFTA indeed.
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SSridhar wrote:
ramana wrote:Looks like TSP e-con-omy is suffering from pindiflation as it bubbles from $175B to $250B in one year!
Ahh. . .that reminds me of the complex mathematics and logic that GoP employed a few years back to explain to the rest of the world how Pakistan was generating a few billion dollars every year from export of software & IT services and how they were well on their way to overtaking the SDRE. Very TFTA indeed.
The incredibily shrinking Poaks are trying best to save H &D and remain 12% of Indian "size" in all domains. They know we will hit 2T in few months and start adding equal to 2Poak Economies a year in our pocket. If all remain same , they will be equal to 1Week worth of India economy by 2022. The worst Nightmare ever imagined by Madudi's litter.
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BijuShet wrote:
So they are assuming the total Paki GDP to be about $250 billion. Really?
Doesn't make any sense to me. Even with a GDP deflator taking into account a 25% inflation that figure is absurd. So according to the pakis, their nominal GDP grew 40%! wow! Wonder why investors aren't ditching S&P/BRICS and pouring money into KSE! :roll:
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Michigan Republican and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Mike Rogers says, "Pakistani services aided bin Laden":

Mr. Rogers said he considered Pakistan to be a “military with a country,” not a country with a military. For now, the military has not chosen to strengthen its alliance with the United States against al Qaeda and the Taliban following the raid on bin Laden’s compound. “They could have said ‘we are going to redouble our efforts with the United States, we are going to fight extremism, we are going to fight terrorism, we are going to join with you as partners to try to remove the extremist and dangerous elements in Pakistan that we know have targeted the United States in the past,’” he said. "That would have been the outcome we looked for, that's the outcome we were hoping for, that's the outcome we were advocating for with Pakistan. Unfortunately I think my trip confirmed for me and all the intelligence I see that is not the Pakistan that we find ourselves with today."

Mr. Rogers also said it was “naive to expect negotiations with the Taliban to lead to a viable exit strategy from Afghanistan." Mr. Schneider agreed. He said: “Without the Pakistan military closing down safe havens it is hard to see how a negotiation reaches any kind of serious outcome.”
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Prem wrote:If all remain same , they will be equal to 1Week worth of India economy by 2022. The worst Nightmare ever imagined by Madudi's litter.
Prem, but Mawdudi has already won. His adherents are on the rampage and about to assume the State. Mawdudi was prevented from doing that from day one and had to wage a struggle. He was even sentenced to death. AoA.
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Boy, just as Sarmila Bose baby has this fatal attraction to the TFTA TSPA, so does MKB (is he differently oriented? :-)) as he attribute messianic powers to TSPA/ISI

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2 ... -military/
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/world ... ml?_r=1&hp

Pakistan Arrests C.I.A. Informants in Bin Laden Raid
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^^^^

My left testimonial is safe! When BR was debating if Pak army helped, I had posted
No Sir, Pakis didnt help.

Now Pakis could have helped in an *individual capacity*. Did some ISI/Army higher up sell out for a few greenbacks, a gori motorma and a green card? I will bet my left testimonial that they did. The increased "contacts" between mid-level intelligence/army types starting 10 years back means that a vast fraction of them are higher ups now.
NYTimes reports states
Pakistan’s detention of five C.I.A. informants, including a Pakistani Army major who officials said copied the license plates of cars visiting Bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in the weeks before the raid, is the latest evidence of the fractured relationship between the United States and Pakistan.
Now, I am sure the major was offered a few greenbacks, a gori motorma and a greencard!!
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Anujan wrote:^^^^

My left testimonial is safe! When BR was debating if Pak army helped, I had posted
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Now, I am sure the major was offered a few greenbacks, a gori motorma and a greencard!!
Indeed. I have to agree with you on that. However, while your left testimonial is safe, I am not sure about AssPhack's . AssPhack is playing with fire by arresting those CIA informers. Now the "Case of exploding mangoes" is sure to be repeated, especially if Droneacharyas are stopped from ejaculating over Bakistan. Who knows, Droneacharyas could ejaculate an exploding mango right on AssPhack.
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ramana wrote:After how INC politicised the IC 814 hijack in 1999 with their media minions,
Actually the one that is Institutionally remembered is the Rubiya Sayeed incident. It was after that that a no negotiations with ransom demand line started to be pushed very strongly. Occasionally other factors have over ruled this base line but the consequences of giving in during that particular incident continue to reverberate today.
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shaardula wrote: but why did the Ts split? and how have they managed not to cross each others path? and how come TSP has managed to force/convince its munna Ts to act against the other camp?

mushi bending over backwards in 2001 is said to be one reason. but lal masjid also seems to a seminal event.

i think getting to the bottom of this good taliban thingie is likely to be insightful.
Saar you seem to be overlooking the kautilya angle.
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http://t.co/atnKBTN

The original Jalebi defended TSPs H&D against the ugly Americans.
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^^^
‘**** You, Lady’, A US Embassy Man Yells At Dr. Shireen Mazari In Islamabad Restaurant
Apparently RAPES are referred to as PCB in tattistan
Interestingly, an elitist-looking Pakistani man on another table intervened and offered Dr. Mazari an apology on behalf of the American serviceman. :rotfl: Dr. Mazari described him as ‘Pakistani burger chamcha’ :eek: —an expression common among Pakistanis to describe those of their countrymen who flaunt their exaggerated westernization.

She asked him why did he have to apologize for the misbehavior of an American.:((
“If you continue like this you make us Pakistanis look bad,” replied the young. :mrgreen: {RAPEs will be RAPEs}

“It is apologists like you,” retorted Dr. Mazari, “who make us look bad by giving foreigners leeway to misbehave with your people.”
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VikramS wrote:http://t.co/atnKBTN

The original Jalebi defended TSPs H&D against the ugly Americans.
I support Ms. Mazari if the description of the incident were true.
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^^Saar you need to be built like Dara Singh to support Ms. Mazari if she leans on you.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43404265/ns ... ork_times/

cia deputy director in close door hearing rates paki co-operation as 3/10

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One would think that if you had the guts to not help our "dear friends and allies in the war against terror" (that would be Pakistan) continue to protect bin Laden and hide him out as they have all these years he's supposedly been in the hinterlands of Pakistan - that one would be smart enough to get the hell out of Dodge - and that we would have helped them get out immediately.

Pakistan is a rogue nation - has been since its violent inception. Mahatma Ghandi warned that if you allowed an isolated, disconnected bunch of religious fanatics to sequester themselves in their own religious madhouse - you would get, well, you would create a Pakistan.

Unfortunately, Gandhi was just a tad too passive and ethereal in nature and allowed Jinn to manipulate the the situation after the British decided to get out and didn't do what he should have - undermined Jinn completely politically and found some way to neutralize him - not physically - so that, as Gandhi said - both Muslims and Hindus could continue living side by side as they had been and in the process learn to live together.

You simply cannot allow a religion to run a country and expect it to turn into anything other than an insane dictatorship with no regard for human rights or freedom; it will always turn into a dictatorship run by insane religious zealots.

We should cut off funds to Pakistan - both military and humanitarian and keep our billions of dollars here at home; they are corrupt, vicious and hate us and will continue to do so - especially as long as we reward them giving them money.

They have to think we are idiots for allowing them to get away with betraying us - and you know what - they are right we are idiots. Cut them; get out; let them their bankrupt paradigm implode on itself - economically and politically - as it will if it isn't propped up.
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Pakistan’s detention of five C.I.A. informants, including a Pakistani Army major who officials said copied the license plates of cars visiting Bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in the weeks before the raid, is the latest evidence of the fractured relationship between the United States and Pakistan.
TSPA junior afsar copied and handed over senior TSPA afsars ( including Ass-phuck Kayani) licence plate numbers to America?? :(( :((
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 30, 20

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Raja Bose wrote:^^Saar you need to be built like Dara Singh to support Ms. Mazari if she leans on you.
:) I am an SDRE onlee while she is a TFTA.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 30, 20

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Good op for ISI to bump of Shrileen, then splash it all over it's a Blackwater/ CIA job. Complete == only with SSS. Plus pressure to remove more American personnel from Isloo. I wonder if Shrill doesn't realize that.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 30, 20

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Narad wrote:^^^
‘**** You, Lady’, A US Embassy Man Yells At Dr. Shireen Mazari In Islamabad Restaurant
He must have used the term "lady" very very loosely :rotfl:
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x-post:


AP report.

Detainee who provided key information about bin Laden courier rejoins al-Qaida
WASHINGTON — The terrorist described as the linchpin in the hunt for Osama bin Laden has rejoined al-Qaida after the Bush administration released him from a secret CIA secret prison under pressure from Pakistan, according to former and current U.S. intelligence officials.

Shortly after the CIA decided to close the secret prisons, the U.S. intelligence agency returned al-Qaida operative Hassan Ghul in 2006 to his native Pakistan, which had been demanding his release since his capture about two years earlier.

Pakistan held Ghul for at least a year before he was released, eventually making his way back to al-Qaida to help with operations against the U.S., the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because details about Ghul’s case remain classified.

Pakistan’s decision to free Ghul, a midlevel al-Qaida operative, is yet another troubling revelation in a time when the U.S. is rethinking its relationship with the Pakistan and whether it can be a trusted ally in the war on terror.


Former CIA officials say Ghul was part of Zubaydah’s clandestine network of moneymen and couriers. The CIA had been pressing Pakistan to arrest Ghul for years and later learned after 9/11 he had been hiding at safe houses in the Lahore area belonging to the terrorist group, Lashkar-e-Taiba, which was behind the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

But Pakistan’s spy service, the ISI, refused pick up Ghul.


When the CIA figured out that Ghul was traveling to meet with al-Qaida operatives who had gone to Iraq after the 2003 invasion to fight the U.S., the agency decided to act. In a joint operation with the Kurds, Ghul was nabbed in northern Iraq in January 2004, former CIA officials said. Pakistan was furious when it learned the CIA had Ghul and pressed the U.S. to return him.


It’s not clear why Pakistan wanted Ghul back so badly, but former CIA officers who targeted Ghul said he had ties to the Lashkar-e-Taiba terror group, which had the backing of ISI.
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9 killed in US missiles attack in North Waziristan

NORTH WAZIRISTAN: At least nine persons have been reported killed in US missiles attack in North Waziristan, SAMAA reported on Wednesday.

According to initial reports, this latest US missiles attack was launched on two separate houses in Dobe area of North Waziristan.
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Apologies if already posted.
Sebastian Rotella in ProPublica:
http://www.propublica.org/article/prose ... ks-plotter
The chief prosecutor in a landmark terrorism trial [1] that ended last week in Chicago says a plea bargain with a confessed American terrorist was justified because of his value as a source of intelligence and as a key witness in any future prosecutions.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 30, 20

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Raja Bose wrote:^^Saar you need to be built like Dara Singh to support Ms. Mazari if she leans on you.
Reminds me of "Jabba the Hut meets Han Solo in person!" in a paki restaurant. Clicky here
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