Telangana Monitor

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 07 Jun 2011 07:11

Looks like they want to simmer the issue longer without telling their stand till next election time.

T will take more time, says Azad
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels ... s-azad-833
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“Telangana is a complex and difficult issue. Therefore it would require some time to resolve it.”
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Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 07 Jun 2011 07:47

T - simmering as a trouble is in the interests of Sonia congress and they will just continue to do. This is a well known strategy and everything was planned and orchestrated to keep TDP out. A very successful strategy. Sonia clearly was differing from others in the strategy. Everyone wanted a soultion one way or other way however, she recently insisted of keeping it burning as long as possible.

This strategy is also a good thing KCR too. They made all the APites ullu-ke-patte and let us accept it and keep fighing T Vs non-T.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 07 Jun 2011 08:51

somebody needs to light a fire under Rajmata's bottom.....their megalomania, combined with the sycophancy of their followers is leading to all kinds of disruptive schemes and plans all over the country...

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 07 Jun 2011 09:07

I dont think the chamcha gang of Italian criminals do not know the extent of the anger they have created in AP against the Congress party. No one is going to vote for them in 2014. Even division of votes is not going to help them. If they think that they can play caste politics in AP and win they are seriously mistaken. Few of them remember Chiranjivi himself lost a MLA seat in his caste belt and native place. Caste politics need serious education deficit and social backwardness. I dont think AP has them like Bihar. Even people in Bihar are no longer voting on these lines now a days. Their brilliant caste combination was kicked in the A*s by people in Tamilnadu.

While AP is burning, the possible INC wipeout in 2014 ( if they survive that long) is the only good news. May be APs loss the Bhatats gain. I hope so.

unarayanadas · Post by **unarayanadas** » 07 Jun 2011 11:56

What does Botsa's appointment as PCC Chief signal? That Telangana is in the offing? Did 'Highcommandji' think it appropriate to compensate the loss of independent India's most corrupt chief minister by appointing AP's most corrupt politician as PCC Chief.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 07 Jun 2011 16:53

unarayanadas wrote:What does Botsa's appointment as PCC Chief signal? That Telangana is in the offing? Did 'Highcommandji' think it appropriate to compensate the loss of independent India's most corrupt chief minister by appointing AP's most corrupt politician as PCC Chief.

Read Azad's statement in Deccan Herald. He says it is very difficult to solve Telangana. All the Telugu channels are put captions like "Telangana in cold storage".

Rajmata does not want to say "Form Telangana" or "Let us keep AP united". The importance is using Telangana, TDP was checkmated and that is important to continue. They though TDP will die but that did not happen and hence the need to continue with stalemate. This will continue with one argument or other.

Let us accept the fact that we Telugus are all ullu-ke-patte or dhimmis. No egos

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 07 Jun 2011 19:36

I think we will see a tripolar AP. TRS, TDP, and Jagan will have huge opportunities to shaft INC, in the coming months and years. the only question is how much can Jagan influence and will be merge with INC??? even if he does, Rajmata has seen Jagan's star and is unlikely to ever forget that....ball is in Jagan's court. he can either lie low and build or maintain his influence, and stay away from Rajmata's radar, or he can continue as he is now, and hope to create as big a dent in both INC and TDP.....Jagan won't gain any traction in Telangana. that at least insulates a portion of AP from YSR dynasty's direct control.....can TRS, BJP, and TDP capitalize on this. imvho, TRS/BJP/TDP should make a pact to shaft INC in as many districts as possible. this can yield rich dividends for all three parties.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 07 Jun 2011 20:19

devesh garu,

Nothing in politics is that straight forward.

Regarding T politics: TRS may have upperhand in T but who are the challengers? We are sure that TRS is not going to have a landslide or with no challengers. Inspite of TDP's low profile, I still think they will get substantial OBC votes from T. INC will be a huge player too with Dalit and muslim (non HYD has substantial number) votes. T-Reddys does not have a home yet and they will not go with TRS. Jagan will be a considerable player because of deal-wheel mafia that he has created using Konda Surekha types. Reddys may join Jagan in one way or other. CPI's clout is still existing and they will go in allaince with TDP. Hyderabad has too many seats and the crowd is very diverse and apart from MIM, they are anybody's gain but TRS is really weak here. There are certain districts in T where TRS will not win much. Another thing to consider is will they be able to rally T-State as an issue during next election?

It is more clear in coastal areas and Rayalaseema. It will be mostly a straight contest between TDP and Jagan with INC in a good third position. However, in INC there are still a section of big leaders like Lagadapati, Kavuri Sambasiva Rao and NTR's daughter and some long timers who still has a lot of clout with voters. However, it depends if they will stick to congress or will take some sides. It is even possible to create a new party in case of stupidity being continued at high command.

Regarding BJP, it is not even there as much as CPI can get. They were good pre-2009 but they are gone even interms of HYD votes.

There will be three to four phases of elections. They will promise T while campaining in T and united AP while campaining in rest of the state. (I love to repeat that Telugus are dhimmified).

Added later: Per grapevine, Jagan is planning to create a T-Reddy party using money and may not use YSR congress.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 07 Jun 2011 21:35

Muppalla wrote:Added later: Per grapevine, Jagan is planning to create a T-Reddy party using money and may not use YSR congress.

Whole Nagam thing (D'Goud strategy) is just that consolidate T-Reddy votebank which works against Congress and TRS.

Jalagam goes to Jagan means Congress is out in Khammam which is TDP area. So there is cordoning off TRS area going on.
TRS may be limited to Karimnagar and Warangal only.

Jalagam Inching Towards Jagan
http://greatandhra.com/viewnews.php?id= ... 15&scat=16

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 09 Jun 2011 18:51

YSR Looted The State, But Centre Had No Share

http://www.greatandhra.com/viewnews.php ... 15&scat=16

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Jun 2011 00:14

Looks like INC is recasting group politics in AP.

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Telangana Minister appointed Deputy CM of Andhra Pradesh

June 11, 2011 12:47:08 AM

PTI | Hyderabad

In the backdrop of the growing demand for statehood to Telangana, the Congress today appointed C Damodar Raja Narasimha, a Minister in the Kiran Reddy Government as Deputy Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh.

Governor E S L Narasimhan gave his consent for the elevation of the 52-year-old Minister from Telangana who is holding Higher Education portfolio in the present Cabinet.

The move comes as the ruling party leaders, including lawmakers, from the region stepped up their statehood demand and met the Prime Minister as part of their efforts.

"In exercise of the powers conferred upon him by Article 164(1) of the Constitution, the Governor of Andhra Pradesh, on advice of the Chief Minister, has been pleased to appoint C Damodar Raja Narasimha as Deputy Chief Minister with effect from June 10," an official statement said here.

The three-time Congress MLA from Andol in Adilabad district was a Minister in the previous Government also.

The landslide victory of Kadapa MP Y S Jaganmohan Reddy in the last month's bypoll has prompted the Congress high command to make major changes in the state unit of the party as well as the Government.

A senior Minister from coastal Andhra Pradesh, Botsa Satyamnarayana, was appointed as the new State Congress President earlier this week.

By making Narasimha as Deputy CM, the Congress high command is trying to appease both Telangana people in general and SCs (he belongs to Madiga community) in particular, political analysts said.

Congress MPs and MLAs from Telangana yesterday met Prime Minister and told him that they would not be able to continue in their posts for long if a "positive decision" on the statehood issue is not taken at the earliest.

Narasimha, however, sought to de-link his appointment with the long-pending Telangana issue.

"Telangana issue is different and Deputy CM post is different.

I sincerely thank (Congress chief) Sonia Gandhi, Chief Minister Kiran Kumar Reddy and PCC chief Botsa for their confidence in me," he told the media.

"After so many years, the Deputy Chief Minister's post has been once again created and given to a Telangana Dalit," he said.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 13 Jun 2011 04:38

^^^
Per latest news, INC is deciding on a decision rather than putting is perpetual ambiguity. The decision is to be on the lines of Gorkhaland with a council for T and keeping the state united. Looks like most of INC folks has the knowledge of the decision and hence Jaipal Reddy is now trying to escape himself. He made a statement on the line of that he is a national politics based leader and he cannot side on sub regional lines.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 13 Jun 2011 09:17

Which means INC has accepted the Sri Krishna recommentations.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 14 Jun 2011 05:08

Gorkhaland-like autonomy on anvil for Telangana?

HYDERABAD: The Congress high command plans to offer the Gorkhaland model of autonomy for Telangana, said an AICC source familiar with the issue here on Monday. AICC general secretary Ghulam Nabi Azad is likely to propose this when Telangana Congress MPs meet him in two weeks.

The Gorkhaland model includes the formation of a council with wide-ranging powers and a big financial package. It's also similar to the sixth option recommended on December 31, 2010 by the Srikrishna committee set up by the Centre to look into the demand for Telangana.

The committee had suggested statutory safeguards for Telangana including a Telangana Regional Council, strengthening of Gentlemen's Agreement of 1956, and the provision for coming out with an annual report card addressing the progress made on the implementation of various provisions guaranteed under the new agreement.

Although Congress had earlier promised statehood for Telangana, the party now appears to be involved in a U-turn, something that could bring the activists back to the streets. The source said neither the UPA government nor Congress president Sonia Gandhi favours division of Andhra Pradesh. This was conveyed to Congress leaders from Telangana during their meetings with Central leaders.

"It's Sonia's intent that the Darjeeling model be offered for Telangana and Azad has been told to roll out this offer in his meeting with Congress MPs from Telangana," said one Telangana Congress leader. Union minister Jaipal Reddy, too, indicated last weekend there would be no Telangana when he stressed Congress was against regionalism and sub-regionalism.

Predictably, there's opposition from Congress leaders from Telangana to the proposal. "There's nothing in common between Darjeeling and Telangana. The demand for separate Telangana has already been accepted by the first States' Reorganisation Commission (SRC). The need for a separate state was accepted by the UPA government and incorporated in the presidential address to joint session of Parliament four years ago," said Congress MP from Telangana region, K Keshava Rao.

Telangana activists, too, said that all options have been experimented with and the only choice left is separate state. "This was acknowledged by Home Minister P Chidambaram. If Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, AICC general secretary Azad or anyone else proposes the Darjeeling model, we will reject it," said another senior T Congressman.

However, at a time when Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS), the Telangana Joint Action Committee (JAC), Congress MPs and MLAs from the region and several other forces supporting separate state are preparing to intensify their agitation, the Darjeeling model may not find many takers among them. But AICC sources claimed that the party high command has evolved a formula to make even the TRS come around to accepting the Darjeeling model. However this is an exaggerated expectation.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Jun 2011 09:22

Here goes mother of all cuisine differences between Andhra and Telangana:

Some Accounting for taste:Food Syncretism in Deccan

More Biryani vs Pullao

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Jun 2011 00:43

Distorting history in their hate for Andhras! This is the modern Telangana intellectual who paints a rosy picture of the Nizam's rule. Look at his distortions!

The Fall of Hyderabad

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 16 Jun 2011 07:23

^^^
this is another kind of deracination. when one particular emotion takes over the mind, everything else, including the real history, is totally forgotten. it is a total disgrace. the bast*** is painting the greedy villains as good guys.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Jun 2011 07:47

devesh wrote:^^^
this is another kind of deracination. when one particular emotion takes over the mind, everything else, including the real history, is totally forgotten. it is a total disgrace. the bast*** is painting the greedy villains as good guys.

True. It is disgusting. My sis-in-law's grandfather (they are all purest of the T folks and it was a a great experience to talk to 90+ year old who has seen the troubles as an youngster) told me the type of miserable life under Nizam. Under Nizam even to fetch water, the order of priority was last for common hindus.

Certain T folks are showing stockholm syndrome. These types needs to be educated on the pitfalls of distorting the historical roots and culture. Every country that tried such a thing collapsed and ultimately died. Pakistan is very near to such a thing.

unarayanadas · Post by **unarayanadas** » 16 Jun 2011 07:48

ramana wrote:Distorting history in their hate for Andhras! This is the modern Telangana intellectual who paints a rosy picture of the Nizam's rule. Look at his distortions!

The Fall of Hyderabad

It is not surprising. Quite a few facts were intentionally, either suppressed or not mentioned in the article. These include Nizam's offer of annexation of Hyderabad State to Pakistan, his negotiations with Portugal to purchase Goa to give Hyderabad access to the sea and the transfer of a bulk of the treasury to a bank account in London, which became a bone of contention between India and Pakistan for several decades. There are two views as to why the money was transferred: according to one it was to buy smuggled arms from Australia and the other was to eventually reclaim it after Hyderabad's annexation to Pakistan. Also the reign of terror let loose by the Razakar army in the countryside, was skipped probably keeping in mind the present clout of its descendants - the MIM - and not to antagonize it. The omission of this historically very significant fact puts a big question mark on the objectivity of the whole piece. Because the political reaction to the reign of terror was the Telangana peasant movement/s led by the communists. It was the only time that the communists were on the same side as the Congress in the freedom struggle. Prior to this they were, towing what they thought was the 'Comintern' line, vacillating between supporting the British and opposing them. The Teleangana peasant movement was in fact a precursor to the Naxalbari movement in Bengal, which it preceded by more than a decade.

One thing was certain though. But for Sardar Patel's stedfastness Hyderabad would never have been liberated. If Nehru had had his way India would have had an enemy State deep inside its belly either as an independent nation or as an appendage of Pakistan.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 17 Jun 2011 02:50

devesh wrote:^^^
this is another kind of deracination. when one particular emotion takes over the mind, everything else, including the real history, is totally forgotten. it is a total disgrace. the bast*** is painting the greedy villains as good guys.

Hatred against current system or hatred against Hindus leads to praising the imperialists

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 21 Jun 2011 08:17

It seems that Sonia gang is going to take some decision on Telangana by this month end. The Congress leaders from Telangana received no assurence in the latest "last trip" to Delhi from their leadership and the so called "Core Committee" discussed this matter for some time. Some of the factors that may effect congress decision.

1. What is in it for Congress both in AP and in any Nation wide elections - Jagan decision on Telangana issue - How for they can weaken TDP.
2. Mamtha. Abdulla, Pawar, MK and other leaders who are no part of UPA who are against Telangana for their own reasons.
3. Other demends of similar nature which congress is no in a postion to take a decision like Vidhrbha, Gurkhaland etc.

It seems present decision some counsel like Gurkhaland.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Jun 2011 20:37

Is the Lok Sabha session being postponed by two weeks to gain time to assess the situation? Are they trying to see how they can survive post any decision?

Note Kanimozhi in jail leading to MK pulling out of UPA will only rearrange seats in UPA. However coupled with Andhra Pradesh fracturing could threaten the UPA itself.

Also note the recent statement by Mamta Baneerjee saying she is not opposed to Telangana.

Then the double helis 'accidents' for BJP leadership to preclude taking advantage.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 24 Jun 2011 00:09

“Unless the Centre creates separate state, the people of the region will not believe the Congress. The Congress leadership should realise the prevailing situation in the region”, T Congress leaders said.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/telangana-mp ... 0-114.html

I do not think the central govertnment or parliament in Delhi is able to sort out the problems in the South nor interested to support and solve some the issues in the South India. In order to sort out our own issues I think Tamil Nadu, Andhra, Kerala and Karnataka should think about having another Parliament of their own in Hyderderabad or in Bangalore. While wider India should be colloborating on Military and foreign issues and also a few other common external concerns, the South Indians must work on our local issues. Depending on North based Parliament is no more use for sorting out the probs in the South.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Jun 2011 00:24

JJ, Maybe the South should have a Kashmir solution?

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 24 Jun 2011 00:27

joshvajohn wrote:
“Unless the Centre creates separate state, the people of the region will not believe the Congress. The Congress leadership should realise the prevailing situation in the region”, T Congress leaders said.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/telangana-mp ... 0-114.html

I do not think the central govertnment or parliament in Delhi is able to sort out the problems in the South nor interested to support and solve some the issues in the South India. In order to sort out our own issues I think Tamil Nadu, Andhra, Kerala and Karnataka should think about having another Parliament of their own in Hyderderabad or in Bangalore. While wider India should be colloborating on Military and foreign issues and also a few other common external concerns, the South Indians must work on our local issues. Depending on North based Parliament is no more use for sorting out the probs in the South.

Thank you for elaborating the Pakistan resolution.

Sorry we are not interested in the dravidanadu days.

P.S: Congress is one of 4 decent sized parties in AP.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 24 Jun 2011 00:48

Ramana
No no, I meant only power sharing and decentralising. Because I do not think North understands South at all. Even those who hold ministerial berth from South are either not able to convince the importance of issues in the South or they themselves behave different when they are in Delhi. I strongly think unless we share the responsibilities among people in different areas many of our issues will never be solved. I think those who are in Hyderabad are in a better position to understand even Bangalore based issues though sometimes regionalism and linguistic divisions are there within the South yet there is more sympathetic attitude towards the Southern issues by the people within the South. While there is no mind to hear as there are plenty of problems and issues to solve the issues in the north and elsewhere and sot here is no time nor any concern to address some of the serious concerns. I also did not mean that there should be a division of India! We should work together where we are strong together even in Cricket.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 24 Jun 2011 00:57

joshvajohn wrote:Ramana
No no, I meant only power sharing and decentralising. Because I do not think North understands South at all.

JJ,

Your continuous support for dravidian and communist ideologies is known. I also remember your posts during dec 9 times.

So, there right there in the part I quoted, you are crossing tremendous lines. You are calling for secessionism couched in honey coated words.

Telugu people have as much congruence with tamil people as with the oriya people or with the marathi people. So why should they be left behind?? But they have as much congruence with gujarathi/bengali and bihari people and so on. There is no natural "south" who is not understood by the north.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Jun 2011 02:03

joshvajohn wrote:Ramana
No no, I meant only power sharing and decentralising. Because I do not think North understands South at all. Even those who hold ministerial berth from South are either not able to convince the importance of issues in the South or they themselves behave different when they are in Delhi. I strongly think unless we share the responsibilities among people in different areas many of our issues will never be solved. I think those who are in Hyderabad are in a better position to understand even Bangalore based issues though sometimes regionalism and linguistic divisions are there within the South yet there is more sympathetic attitude towards the Southern issues by the people within the South. While there is no mind to hear as there are plenty of problems and issues to solve the issues in the north and elsewhere and sot here is no time nor any concern to address some of the serious concerns. I also did not mean that there should be a division of India! We should work together where we are strong together even in Cricket.

From Chennai entire AP is north of it and hence AP is North India. Let us add AP to North that cannot understand the southern problems.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Jun 2011 02:38

^^^
guys like Somnath can't hide their innate agendas. there are other kind of people who go for years posting stuff that is seemingly benign but every now and then their innate intentions come to the fore. this is one such occasion.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 24 Jun 2011 03:25

present governance is so corrupt and has stolen a lot of money in terms of bribing. When people like Anna or anyone who questions present status quo of governance, they are blamed as religious right wings. In a similar way when people's status quo is questioned it is easy to accuse others as communis and dravidians. This is the way Indian masses whether they are brahmins or dalits or backward or upper castes or tribal communites have been fooled for centuries. This is not possible anymore! When people began to question things and wanted to change and decentralise the power centres no can stop it even if people are blamed as naxals and so on. In simple terms Telangana becoming reality is something people attempt to block using every manipulation. This is no more possible. A few attempt to assasinate the characters of those leaders of telangana. Not only in this forum but also politically TRS is given a naxalite colour and also a Hindutva colour and thus every desperate attempt was and is being made to divide and destroy the movement and the aspirations of the people in Telangana.

KCR threatens repeat of 1969
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/kcr-threaten ... 0-114.html

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Jun 2011 03:31

ravi_ku wrote: Ramana
No no, I meant only power sharing and decentralising. Because I do not think North understands South at all.
Your continuous support for dravidian and communist ideologies is known. I also remember your posts during dec 9 times.

So, there right there in the part I quoted, you are crossing tremendous lines. You are calling for secessionism couched in honey coated words.

A person who has no emotional relations with the religions of India will recommend such solutions. They are deracinated and do not belong to the nation

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Jun 2011 03:31

self deleted....

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Jun 2011 03:32

joshvajohn wrote:present governance is so corrupt and has stolen a lot of money in terms of bribing. When people like Anna or anyone who questions present status quo of governance, they are blamed as religious right wings. In a similar way when people's status quo is questioned it is easy to accuse others as communis and dravidians. This is the way Indian masses whether they are brahmins or dalits or backward or upper castes or tribal communites have been fooled for centuries. This is not possible anymore! When people began to question things and wanted to change and decentralise the power centres no can stop it even if people are blamed as naxals and so on. In simple terms Telangana becoming reality is something people attempt to block using every manipulation. This is no more possible. A few attempt to assasinate the characters of those leaders of telangana. Not only in this forum but also politically TRS is given a naxalite colour and also a Hindutva colour and thus every desperate attempt was and is being made to divide and destroy the movement and the aspirations of the people in Telangana.

KCR threatens repeat of 1969
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/kcr-threaten ... 0-114.html

why are you so interested in Telangana? what do you know about Telangana? do you know the prime reason why Telangana is the way it is today? the last thing Telangana needs is vested interests to exploit the situation who have absolutely no knowledge of Telangana and who don't understand the reasons for T's backwardness. I have seen one other example of a Tamil guy in "Skyscrapercity India" forums who is *possibly* a Christian convert and definitely a Tamil chauvinist, who used to bash Telugus working in US as the equivalent of Mexicans and was an ardent supporter of Telangana separate state. it absolutely disgusts me that some Dravidian chauvinists eagerly rub their hands together when they look at T's condition as nothing more than an opportunity to exploit and divide.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 24 Jun 2011 04:12

Decentralisation of the nation is the only way forward for an inclusive growth for a country like India. This cannot be seen as division of a country. When there are sentiments about certain regions among certain people it is essential to respect it and move forward in terms of growth and healthy competition. Decentralisation is an uniting force in India but people may argue what kind ways decentralisation can happen in terms of powersharing. If it is interms of a concern for people's development and resource sharing yes such attempts should happen and go ahead. When sensitive issues are involved then people should be prepared for such forward actions. Only when the govt realises that it is impossible to bring the concentration of power to particular centres and make is impossible to manage them and thus leave the local issues unaddressed for many years.

NAPM welcomes separate statehood for Telangana with a caution to preserve and struggle for democratic rights and equity
http://napm-india.org/node/62

However, we must warn the leaders and the people together that the experience of Jharkhand, Chattisgarh etc. clearly indicates that mere scale does not bring in decentralization. The development of the population and natural resources of Telangana to be just and sustainable would require that the paradigm followed by many a ruling party today should be revisited and reviewed and the planning process should be truly democratic. How would the Krishna waters or land of Telengana be harnessed and in whose favour? Will the toiling masses receive primacy in all economic and political decisions, will have to be answered.

Congress does not favour Telangana: BJP
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/congress-doe ... 37-64.html

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Jun 2011 04:18

^^^
all of your sugar coated platitudes mean absolutely nothing when you advocate for secession (which is what "Southern" parliament is). and btw, who are all these people who want to have a separate Southern Parliament? I want to know who they are other than Dravidian chauvinists? please do tell who these people are that want separate South? I certainly don't want it. I'm happy with my India. my identity and my state/region/language are an integral part of India. without this basic feature, I have no identity. this is how I define my identity. I'm sorry you don't. and stop including other Southern states in your fantasies. you have these ideas. don't superimpose them on others who want no part of it.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 24 Jun 2011 04:34

any new idea has to be tested and argued to find out whether they are helpful for nations growth. There is already argument to bring the branch of a supreme court to South India. This would help South people in many ways. This is part of decentralising evolution process. This has nothing to do with secession or division of India as people would simplistically assume. In the case of a parliament in the South it does not divide people rather decentralises the power centres and so democratically people get more ways to express themselves and share resources and thus unites India into a strong nation. Such process also leads to small states though i recognise the emotional elements attached to linguistic states. But one should realise the fact that these states came into being only in postindependent India. Before that we had not much linguistic probs as we have today. Dividing the states according to language was not a good idea but Nehru did it in spite of no clear cut divisions of language was possible at that time. Many in the much of the border spaces between states were multilingual today many of their generations are forced into one language only.

Supreme Court bench in South India or lawyers will strike?
http://www.legallyindia.com/20101206158 ... ill-strike

Andhra Pradesh: moving beyond linguistic lines
http://www.india-seminar.com/2008/591/591_k_c_suri.htm

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 24 Jun 2011 04:41

giving communist front organisations names with blogs and articles long ago and appealing for seceessnism from, I have no idea why moderators are allowing this trollish behavior.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Jun 2011 07:28

devesh wrote:...the last thing Telangana needs is vested interests to exploit the situation who have absolutely no knowledge of Telangana and who don't understand the reasons for T's backwardness. I have seen one other example of a Tamil guy in "Skyscrapercity India" forums who is *possibly* a Christian convert and definitely a Tamil chauvinist, who used to bash Telugus working in US as the equivalent of Mexicans and was an ardent supporter of Telangana separate state. it absolutely disgusts me that some Dravidian chauvinists eagerly rub their hands together when they look at T's condition as nothing more than an opportunity to exploit and divide.

I don't think it is Dravidian chauvinism but EJism. Coastal Belt is in their mind.

May I suggest Rajiv Malhotra's recent book Breaking India to better understand vested interests.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Jun 2011 08:45

What ever politically suitable to Italian Mafia will be done. That is all. The problem is they are unable to make up their mind at present. The shock of resignations on 10 December 2009 is still there and they are afraid that they may open a Pandora Box with similar movements every where in the country. The main mission is to have substancial no of seats in AP which is the only big state ( size and money in birbes they receive) they are in power alone ( Many of us forget that fact). So giving in for the division of the state now and losing power in AP immediately is not an option. Unfortunately Telangana COngress leaders are not so big on money front and can be presurised ( I am not sure about is at this stage) so Mafia is trying to "Counsel" them. The efforts seems to be have a Gurkhaland type solution to the problem.

As for as the allegations of TRS having a strong naxal gang in it I think some posts in this thread even given the name of the Naxals who are in TRS.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Jun 2011 09:51

Some ideas are not for discussion. Especially with secession openly advocated.

Dont do that again if you want to continue on forum.