Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2011

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 07 Jul 2011 12:58

Strobe Talbott speaketh

India and the US may never be allies
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 110707.htm

I had the honour of meeting with Singh and National Security Adviser Shiv Shankar Menon, and I was impressed by the coherence and the conviction and the determination with which the prime minister talked about his desire to leave no stone unturned.

You referred to the execution of Osama bin Laden by American forces; something that I heartily welcomed and approved of. It was entirely justified. It happened in a virtual, if not literal, annex of a cantonment of the Pakistani military.
It simply strikes me as unbelievable, that bin Laden was able to live in that compound under those conditions without not only the knowledge, but without the support of important elements in Pakistan.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Jul 2011 15:05

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2011_pg3_3
Anwar Syed writes:

Earlier this year a landlord’s employee in Multan beseeched a friend of mine to enrol his son in a school in Lahore because his employer did not want the children of his servants to get education. He would rather that they stayed ignorant and, like their fathers and grandfathers, worked on his farm as serfs. This landlord was not the only one of his kind. Countless large landowners in Pakistan think the same way.

jaibhim · Post by **jaibhim** » 07 Jul 2011 15:16

Sampling the yellow lies of dawn and also notice the equal equal sauth asia pieces- It would be great if members could be enlightened about this teary eyed India baiter Mr.Naqvi who is ostrich like in his blindness when it comes to the transgressions of one side be it the stalinists or one particular community which he feels is always persecuted with an intention to whip up discord, but always flatters and warms up to anything that could fit his rape agenda. What business have these people to write about the internal affairs of India? Why should these outsiders be allowed free fall access in India? Since the learned Mandyan wimbledon returned tennis fan speaks of trust deficit bridging in equal-equal sauth asia, I am sure drawing from organic chemistry viscous liquid dynamics, that this new strategy of seep, soak information everything you can, drip and liquidate will take shape! Alva dodda Raghavendra Annavare? Idu ondu kanspiracy alva daivittu nodi? Scan the press, there is more than active interest during the last week on India, especially the temple story and even areas traditionally out of range are getting renewed attention for the media, using rhetorical terms such as ancestor, heritage, victim our Indian past, Indian problems which are effectively employed are this apparent repentance and meditative stance has been steadily gathering some momentum. Issues including the antics of jobless louts are getting attention, have ignited feelings of longing and loss about Hyderabad and queries by Pakis to some Indians in the UK, Hyderabad me kya ho raha hai? It might be too late before gullible people fall into the sandy marsh and drown! The lull before the storm as the past has always attested.
It would be great if some members here had proficiency in reading Urdu media in the land of the pure so that the process of appraising news could be more effective.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/07/a-judgment-in-delhi.html
and
equal equal sauth asia

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/07/relation ... dia-2.html

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 07 Jul 2011 15:24

A_Gupta wrote:http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2011_pg3_3
Anwar Syed writes:
Earlier this year a landlord’s employee in Multan beseeched a friend of mine to enrol his son in a school in Lahore because his employer did not want the children of his servants to get education. He would rather that they stayed ignorant and, like their fathers and grandfathers, worked on his farm as serfs. This landlord was not the only one of his kind. Countless large landowners in Pakistan think the same way.

Stupid landlord has turned this into a class issue when it is simply a spiritual matter...he should have called upon the local mullah to convince the servants that a true mard-e-momin requires no education other than knowledge of the book and aurat-e-momin does not require even that...just obedience and a good strong uterus.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 07 Jul 2011 15:53

Rajdeep wrote:Strobe Talbott speaketh

India and the US may never be allies
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 110707.htm

When you have deluded, useless, DDM interviewing a white knoight like Talbott, this is the kind of condescending trash you will get. See how Talbott talks from an American interests POV, but the DDM moron's line of questioning is like feeding him honey instead asking hard-nosed questions. Key missing questions are:

1) If India's relationship with Iran is an irritant in India US relations, what about US TSP relations? What about the military aid? That does not have an impact on India's attitude towards US? If OBL living under such close proximity to TSPA is an outrage, how about Hafeez Saeed and the endless list of India specific terrorists roaming freely in TSP and calling for Jihad? I din't see any mention of Mumbai, an act of war perpetrated by TSP.

2) This sickeing crap about TSP failing and they have so many nukes and its a threat to the whole "world" including India and somehow the implication being that the "world" will deal with TSP in a way that eliminates this threat. Firt, the DDM moron did not question US Chincom role in TSP's acquisition of nukes.

And see the slime ball Talbott's scare mongering, basically saying TSP will nuke you (India) if you don't kiss & make up. Misssing in his narrative, and went unquestioned, is that TSP nukes are directed at India, and India alone. Any Indian with a fraction of a human brain ought to know that even a faint hint of TSP nukes really threatning the whites west, Kahuta will be a rubble of stones and concrete in a heartbeat.

But the TSP nuke scare mongering suits slimy wesetern strategic elite b@stards like Talbott just fine. Because then he can use the "South Asia" is "nuclear flashpoint" mntra to box India's nukes with those of TSP, and call for a grand "South Asia" nuke disarmament policy.

A nmationalist DDM reporter will ask tough questions along the above lines. Instead this self satisfying BS that TSP is a threat to the "world". What TSP is demanding from India is nothing short of disintegeration using its nuke blackmail. It makes no such demands from the rest of the "world".

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 07 Jul 2011 16:23

A vast medical tourism market opens up for TSP... doktor-e-momiin can now serve the ummah in even more ways..

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/ ... 6620110706

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 07 Jul 2011 16:27

Why would anyone interview Strobe Talbott these days ? And why the hell would Indian media ? And that too on Indo-US relations ? This guy is almost as anti Indian as Kia-naani. When would they learn ?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Jul 2011 16:33

Taliban commander back on the air in Pakistan

One of Pakistan’s most notorious Taliban radio voices is back on the air after the army raided his stronghold last year and drove him across the border into Afghanistan.

....and the growing problem of sanctuaries in eastern Afghanistan that allow fighters to elude the army’s grasp.

“We will return and enforce the golden system of Islam,”

“Our fighters carried out these two attacks from Afghanistan, and we will launch more such attacks inside Afghanistan and in Pakistan,” said Mohammed over the Voice of Sharia radio in his measured, matter-of-fact style.

Mohammed gives half-hour sermons three times per week in which he encourages locals to participate in jihad, or holy war, and warns them against cooperating with Pakistani authorities.“This war is between Islam and infidels, and every Muslim is duty-bound to take part,” said Mohammed on his show “The Leader Says.”

“There is no effort to act against these strongholds or sanctuaries,” said Pakistan army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas.

AoA. War between the more and the less pure. Also, note the irony.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Jul 2011 16:43

^^^ ergo this is a manufactured diversion from the real game

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 07 Jul 2011 17:04

shiv wrote:

Basically the world has "given up" on Somalia and as long as it is no skin off their balls the world will "give up" on Pakistan. Maybe that would be a good thing - especially of the US "gave up".

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US might give up on Pakistan. But would India give up on it ?

When Pakistan eventually fails the least challenging task for India would be the military challenge. The biggest challenge however would be to avoid giving any humanitarian aid to it. Visuals of the ensuing humanitarian disaster might fill news channels . DDM 's might be the most prolific reporters. "International community" may put "pressure" on India to take up "responsibility" for the 200 million odd apes that inhabit our neighbourhood while giving only token aid themselves . Our ddm's and "human rights" activist might give us far more trouble. Their might be candle light marches requesting our gov't to cough up huge aid which we cannot afford .

The best way to avoid this scenario would be to ensure that it splits before it fails. For that to happen India may need to deliver the Coup de grâce to ensure surgical splitting of TSP. Balochistan is sparsely populated and humanitarian issues are easily manageable. Pashtunistan would be almost completely inaccessible to media and thus any humanitarian trouble there would be inconsequential and may never be reported. Gilgit - Baltistan is quite small so no trouble there. Pakjab population would have a severe H&D hit as their erstwhile country just dissolved. They would be engaging in a lot of anti India/anti west rhetoric which can be broadcast on television all day and thus create an anti Pakjab polarization in India thus ensuring that clamour for human rights aid is minimal. Borders should be sealed with electrified fences and anti personnel measure to ensure that we don't need to take in a single refuge. We must ensure that we maintain good relations with Balochistan due to good possibility of excellent mineral wealth in that area besides an access to Iran .

Wish we have an overtly right winged government when TSP fails.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Jul 2011 17:24

Anujan wrote:Pakistan’s nuclear-bomb maker says North Korea paid bribes for know-how

Will the ISI handle AQK now in the same way as SSS ? Does it have the guts to do so ?

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Jul 2011 17:25

before the split, TSPA has to be neutered as a political entity in the eyes of their own people. the samson option taken by TSPA's tactically brilliant jarnails would be to do a last throw of the dice invasion of India to keep pakistan together
if TSPA is neutered, the call to arms will be ignored and any offensive action can be dealt with fairly simply. ofcourse before that, the new clear detergent must be washed away

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Jul 2011 19:13

More

dhona by the paki establishment. Pakistan virtually loses out on Indian dam

Thanks to the incompetence of Pakistani government’s so-called water experts, Pakistan has, for all practical purposes, lost the case against India on the controversial 330MW Kishenganga Hydropower project even before the formal commencement of the legal battle in the court of arbitration as India has already completed 40 percent construction work on the project, reveals the latest monthly report of the project exclusively available with The News.

The report also unveils that three countries — the UK, Italy and Germany — are supporting India in the construction of the controversial Kishenganga project while Pakistan has failed to garner such support from major countries in its legal battle. Why? Where is their taller than the tallest mountain....friend?

India has already reduced the timeframe to complete the Kishenganga project by 2014 while Pakistan has set a new target to execute the Neelum-Jhelum project by 2016.

“The country that completes the project first will have water priority rights of the Neelum River.

India is using the advanced Tunnel Boring Machine to complete its project as per the new timeline while Pakistan has even failed to acquire the technology thus far.

It is feared that by the time the CoA starts hearing the case, India will already have completed 90 percent of the project

Comment by a brave mard-e-momeen to this news:

As expected another sell out by the corrupt govt.Inshallah!!! the wrath of Allah will befell on these corrupt leaders and their families so that the rubbish is wiped out once and for all.Who says that we should extend hand of friendship to India?? Not me!!

Fuad
Pakistan

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jul 2011 19:20

Shiv, TSP is one country/state and 3-4 nations.

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Jul 2011 19:49

anupmisra wrote:More dhona by the paki establishment. Pakistan virtually loses out on Indian dam

Was going to X Post this very article from the IWT thread. With that scotched let me continue to enjoy the Pakistani towel throwing

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Jul 2011 19:51

Rajdeep wrote:Strobe Talbott speaketh

India and the US may never be allies
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 110707.htm

If you look at the history of European nations - "alliances" were treaties that compelled a country to go to war if an ally went to war.

NATO is an alliance in which the US will enter the fray if any NATO nation gets int a war with someone else. The US "alliance" with Pakistan is similar. Pakistan promised to fight on the side of the US and was used as a proxytute.

Being "allied" to the US is to agree to fight its wars on its side or at least give support like bases etc for its wars. india is never going to do that. Talbott is right. We may be friends. not allies.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 07 Jul 2011 19:59

Karachi unrest: 17 dead in firing on buses in Orangi, Banaras

KARACHI: At least ten people were killed and 15 others injured when unidentified miscreants opened fire at a passing passenger vehicle in Banaras area of the city Thursday evening.

An hour earlier today, three people were killed in a firing incident at a passing bus near Metro Cinema in Orangi Town area of the metropolis, raising the death toll to 17 within two hours.

The latest killings pushed the death tally in the city to 58 in the last three days

Not bad.

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 07 Jul 2011 20:01

Lalmohan wrote:before the split, TSPA has to be neutered as a political entity in the eyes of their own people. the samson option taken by TSPA's tactically brilliant jarnails would be to do a last throw of the dice invasion of India to keep pakistan together
if TSPA is neutered, the call to arms will be ignored and any offensive action can be dealt with fairly simply. ofcourse before that, the new clear detergent must be washed away

Yes, more than anything, its new clear options must be comprehensively neutered before forcing any split. Otherwise, what was seen as mere nightmares in the disintegration of SU comes true in this case and may even lead to WWIII.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Jul 2011 20:02

Ramachandran Subramanian wrote: Yes, India needs to ensure that the decay of Pakistan is long drawn and sustained. India needs to put the lid on and turn the flame to simmer. They need to be cooked into a mush under their own pressure. Life needs to become a living hell, but only a small bit worse than it was for them yesterday, making them think that they can deal with it and overcome. However this incremental hell will become even more hellish the next day and the next day. .

Unfortunately things are not happening this way. Even as the human condition of a large number of Pakistanis gets worse - a few hundred thousand elite are living perfectly wealthy and happy lives in Pakistan. Their wealth and connections with the west enable them to carry on indefinitely and since they are the employers of the desperate people of Pakistan they can keep living there indefinitely in extreme luxury even as million of Pakistanis suffer. It is the elite who have to be threatened. Only some form of violence can do that. Either a a few well aimed Brahmos missiles or a civil war.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 07 Jul 2011 20:11

Shiv ji,

Civil war is possible because, unlike some other Moslem countries, TSP's Army is not entirely composed of the elite. It has people from all parts of society, and the mutual disgust is emerging.

Iranian "analyst" interviews Paki HuT spokesman:
'Stooges' time is up in Pakistan'

ATol: To what extent is the Pakistani military sympathetic to the views and goals of Hizb ut-Tahrir?

NB: We call on the people of power to fulfill their Islamic duty and stop the munkar [transgression] by using their authority. We call upon them to eject all those who have revolted against Allah and His Messenger by conniving with the imperialists.

It is well known that seeking nusra [support] from the people of power was a part of the methodology of the Prophet Mohammad (saw) [2] for establishing the Islamic state, and the Hizb follows this method in letter and spirit. Unlike in some other countries. the Pakistani army is not an elitist army. They come from all strata of society.

Hence, whatever exists in the public opinion of the country, more or less the same thoughts and emotions are carried by the military as well. The Hizb has been working in the masses for the last 10 years and hence it is not surprising that like the masses, the idea of khilafah and the unification of the Muslim ummah resonates with officers of the armed forces.

ATol: As the situation inside Afghanistan becomes increasingly critical to the Western alliance, and in view of Pakistan's and America's divergent views on the desired outcome to the Afghan conflict, do you envisage an armed confrontation between Pakistan and America?

NB: Under the current traitor leadership there is no serious challenge to the American hegemony in the region and its attempts to pillage the huge material resources of Afghanistan that are estimated to be worth around one to three trillion dollars.

They have squandered an opportunity. Merely cutting off the NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization] supply line permanently and expelling US officials from Pakistan would force America into a hasty retreat. As for the US fighting Pakistan, if America were to make that mistake, I ask the question; if they have not been able to subdue small groups of mujahideen in Afghanistan in a decade of fighting, what chance do they have against the strongest and most battle-experienced Muslim army in the world?

And this is why on March 11, 2009, in his presentation to key [US President Barack] Obama officials including Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Michael Mullen, chairman of the Interagency Policy Review of Afghanistan-Pakistan for the Obama administration, Bruce O Riedel, said they had looked at the extreme option of invading Pakistan, and, of course, immediately dismissed it. Invading a country that possesses dozens of nuclear weapons would be something beyond madness. Everyone agreed.

ATol: What is your view on the recent conference in Tehran on the global fight against terrorism, which was attended by the heads of state of Pakistan and Afghanistan? Can Iran help redefine terrorism in a manner that suits global Islamic interests?

NB: That conference has actually exposed the real face of the Iranian regime. Everybody knows that Pakistan and Afghanistan are nothing but stooges of America and what they consider as terrorism is according to the definition as laid down by the United States.

In such a circumstance, cooperating with Afghanistan and Pakistan is actually cooperating with America. I don't see how by working with Pakistan and Afghanistan, Iran can benefit Muslims. The real vision for these and all Muslim countries is unification into a single state to represent all Muslims, regardless of their race or school of thought; a state that will stand for their interests with their considerable combined resources to end American terrorism practiced by official US armed forces and private military organizations.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Jul 2011 20:14

if a war is inevitable in pakistan (i think it is) then better it is a civil war - and doesnt involve us or other outsiders

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jul 2011 20:16

Lalmohan wrote:before the split, TSPA has to be neutered as a political entity in the eyes of their own people. the samson option taken by TSPA's tactically brilliant jarnails would be to do a last throw of the dice invasion of India to keep pakistan together
if TSPA is neutered, the call to arms will be ignored and any offensive action can be dealt with fairly simply. ofcourse before that, the new clear detergent must be washed away

Responding to the bolded parts in order:
- After Abortabad the TSPA has lost its sheen in front of the common people. The Mehran raid added to the loss of image. More shoes are yet to drop: AlQ's response to Abortabad betrayal, TTP repsonse to the WANA/FATA foray etc. etc.
- The people will let the kabila guards be defeated in order to get their liberation

- the detergent will be washed as a consequence and not a priori. Recall the FSU parts that were suddenly awash with detergent? Two years later all were clean.
With increasing jihadi attacks all over TSP, the detergent has to be moved to Pakjab proper which would make it similar to Yeltsin Russia.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Jul 2011 21:09

the FSU elements were not interested in jihad, only $$$
once the latter was provided, the problem resolved itself

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jul 2011 21:13

You think these guys are not? Its all about who will control the tribute!

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Jul 2011 21:16

i have no doubt that most of them are $$ focused
however a significant number would prefer to go up in a puff of smoke
we need to start some scenario analysis dhaga for US nuclear strike against Pakistan...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jul 2011 21:31

Please do the honors.
The going up in a puff is a charade.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Jul 2011 21:31

Lalmullah Unkil will never hit anyone with nukes. Not unless something goes seriously wrong with "the world order". One unkil nuke on anyone will serve as "permission" for every country on earth to use nukes on unkil and on each other in any subsequent conflict. Deterrence is currently built around the P5 not using nukes while they desperately develop weapons that can be used to replace nukes - and try and gets nukes out of everyone else's hands.

There will be no nukes against Pakistan. But Pakistan may not have any working nukes of its own.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Jul 2011 21:34

14 killed in past 1 hour in karachi.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 07 Jul 2011 21:38

What happens if there is dirty bomb strike against NY city traced directly to TSP.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Jul 2011 21:43

Theo_Fidel wrote:What happens if there is dirty bomb strike against NY city traced directly to TSP.

Iran will be attacked IMO

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 07 Jul 2011 21:51

Makes sense. Sigh!

ajit_tr · Post by **ajit_tr** » 07 Jul 2011 22:03

Prem wrote: Poaks are allowed to call us Jija Ji onlee a.k.a. Wagha ke par rehene wale Jijas.

But the reality is other way round.Isn't it?

shiv wrote:Folks - I made a statement above that I need to explain - some new aha moments I had. I said that Pakistan is failing but may not collapse. The idea of making such a differentiation between failure and collapse came from some articles I was reading about Somalia on the BBC website.

So BRF guru too have their share of tubelight moment after 10 years of realization and self pisko-analysis.

Pakistan is not one country. It is 3 or 4. Some of those countries are failed countries. Others are doing well economically and are well supported by foreign remittances. Some areas have great poverty and even malnutrition.

Basically the world has "given up" on Somalia and as long as it is no skin off their balls the world will "give up" on Pakistan. Maybe that would be a good thing - especially of the US "gave up".

But in the case of Somalia I think the problem could be reduced by international recognition of Somaliland as a separate country with the UN seat that goes with it. Pakistan too should be dealt with similarly. Reduce the size of the problem by recognizing first a Pashtunistan and help that nation survive. Let the economically prosperous Islamist factions of Pakjab and Sindh be a separate country that is not allowed to exert hegemony over weaker people. Not an easy solution to implement given that Pashtunistan will be land locked - but why not get Baluchistan into the picture?

Pakistan needs to be split.n The simple act of recognizing the aspiratiosn of the Pasthun people on both sides of the Durand line would be a step forward.

All this mumbo jumbo i think of no use after the tublight moment. The truth is pakistan is not going to collapse and its here to stay.

saip · Post by **saip** » 07 Jul 2011 22:05

What is happening in Karachi? They are shooting at buses. Yday and today they killed nearly twenty. Has the civil war started already?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 07 Jul 2011 22:08

1.1mn looted from soap factory

Paki dacoits made a clean getaway after giving the police a slip.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Jul 2011 22:10

US finally closes book on Kashmiri.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2011/ ... s_dead.php

A senior U.S. official said that in the weeks since the most recent disputed report of Kashmiri's death, U.S. agencies had confirmed to their satisfaction that Kashmiri is dead. The official declined to elaborate on what kind of evidence the United States had acquired confirming his demise.

archan · Post by **archan** » 07 Jul 2011 22:33

ajit_tr wrote:
Prem wrote: Poaks are allowed to call us Jija Ji onlee a.k.a. Wagha ke par rehene wale Jijas.
But the reality is other way round.Isn't it?

Its ok if your sister married a paki. We don't care. We let you post in here, but don't pick fights. Don't misuse your posting privileges or you will be history in no time.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Jul 2011 22:55

TSP will be both a failed and a collapsed state. Its complex and its unravelling will be combination of FSU, Yugoslavia, Sudan, Ethiopia and East Timor etc.

So some parts will be peacefully seprated and others violiently. There will be mass exodus as during Partiton and emergence of Bangladesh. Violence like in Sudan/Darfur type. A failed state like Somalia with a nominal head of state with breakaway regions. Some parts will be like East and West Germany merger.

For those with long memories G.K. Reddy had a long article in Hindu after the 1971 war on the future prospects of TSP.

IIRC he predicted NWFP now called Khyber -Paktunawa would rejoin Afghanistan. Balochistan might join Iran or gain independence. Sindh, Pakjab would join India as new states. POK would off course revert to J&K and become part of India with Art 370(?).

This didn't happen as ZAB was propped up and the Army shamed. ZAB's mistake was not understanding the TSPA's uniqueness to TSP. Shaming the army led to the coup. He should have right sized the army.
And he got killed.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Jul 2011 23:26

Unkil is really turning the screws on Pakistan

Mullen: Pakistan gov sanctioned reporter death

The top U.S. military officer says the Pakistani government "sanctioned" the killing of a journalist last month

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 07 Jul 2011 23:27

Karachi update: Sindh CM issues Shoot at sight orders.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 07 Jul 2011 23:38

RajeshA wrote: Nihat ji,

In the thread "Managing Pakistan's Failure", these are the exact questions we have been pondering upon.

Of course, taking down those who sponsor terrorist attacks on India, through some covert action seems the most appropriate course of action.

There were three other options, I personally found had some merit.

Land for Terror

Supari Plantation in Afghanistan

Compensation for Terror Victims

Nihat wrote:If we fight back , we are just giving them what they want and in the process potentially sacrificing our men in uniform, if we don't fight back and deny them the opportunity to fight then we come off looking like bunnies who are too afraid to defend our motherland
The key is to build a Pushtun Force in Afghanistan, which cooperates closely with India, is firmly in favor of an independent Pushtunistan, and have the connections to influence the Pushtun Taliban in FATA and Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa.

Whenever Pakistan attacks India, we start our coordination with the Afghans, who create a secessionist mood in Pushtun lands of Pakistan, and if we attack Pakistan then, Pakistan would be under pressure from both sides. It would also not lead to a consolidation of anti-Kufr platform in Pakistan.

In all this, we keep our war with Pakistan short and do not allow it to escalate. We grab a chunk of Pakistani land in Pakjab as compensation for the terror attack, and demand that Pakistan delivers our list of 20 Terrorists, we want from them, within a month, if they wish a return of the land. They will not relent. So we keep the land.

Every time they attack India, they lose a chunk of their land in Pakjab proper. Pakistani Army's reputation would be finished.

Easier said than Done Rajesh, grabbing land militarily every time in the same sector is somewhat unrealistic. Problems range from heavily mined border , counter loss of land in another sector etc. Repeating an armored thrust into heavily militarized and mined area would be very very difficult and entail a significant amount of casualties. DO post in the Pak Ops, doctrine thread in military section if you want to do a furthur SWOT analysis on this "land for terror" scenario.

The idea of a proxy and pro-India Pashtun force is very good if only we have the political will to follow up with it , not to mention our relationship with the Northern Alliance may be damaged by this as it may be hard to manage both.