Indian Army: News & Discussion

ASPuar · Post by **ASPuar** » 11 Jul 2011 15:54

jimmy_moh wrote:Hope he will get severe punishment according to the brutual act he has commited , thanks to Crime branch for arresting the culprit at earliest

And who will punish the media, which went to town screaming "Army sentry kills boy"? As the local authorities had clearly pointed out, and as the police investigation had concluded, it was NOT an army sentry, or any official person who committed the killing.

Who will punish J Jayalalitha, for yelling "Army should compensate the family", "We will not allow the army to get away with this"?

Anyway, more on this case on the Police investgations thread:

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 1#p1126281

jimmy_moh · Post by **jimmy_moh** » 11 Jul 2011 16:11

^^ i agree with u all points..... it is just an individual crime.. nothing to do with army.....

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 11 Jul 2011 21:47

D Roy wrote:
Roy, I posted the fixed report in scribd, last six years are there.
Would you be kind enough to post a link?

Here you go... http://www.scribd.com/doc/58526113/Annu ... ence-India

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 11 Jul 2011 21:50

[quote="jimmy_moh"]^^ i agree with u all points..... it is just an individual crime.. nothing to do with army...../quote]
I still don't think the Lt Col should be that severely punished. If he has acted in self defense when he felt threatened by an intruder. What should be do, write a letter to Chennai Police Commissioner? what if the Army estates management had already complained to city police about intrusions in the night... IT WAS BAD MEDIA MANAGEMENT BY THE ARMY TOO. Remember the incident in Bangalore where an intruder was shot dead immediately after 26/11, that case was handled FAR FAR better.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 11 Jul 2011 22:01

Shrinivasan, in the Bangalore incident, the Army knew exactly who shot the guy and for what reason. They were pretty clear from the beginning, that he was tresspassing into a protected location and they had no choice, since he ran when commanded to stop. In this case the army themselves had no idea of who the shooter was. It was the media which went to town claiming that the Army shot a 13 year old. Blaming the army is their favorite past time after all.

jimmy_moh · Post by **jimmy_moh** » 11 Jul 2011 22:41

Shrinivasan wrote:
jimmy_moh wrote:^^ i agree with u all points..... it is just an individual crime.. nothing to do with army...../quote]
I still don't think the Lt Col should be that severely punished. If he has acted in self defense when he felt threatened by an intruder. What should be do, write a letter to Chennai Police Commissioner? what if the Army estates management had already complained to city police about intrusions in the night... IT WAS BAD MEDIA MANAGEMENT BY THE ARMY TOO. Remember the incident in Bangalore where an intruder was shot dead immediately after 26/11, that case was handled FAR FAR better.

it is nothing to do with bangalore incident..... this was happend in daylight....... and he deserved max puishment.................

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Jul 2011 05:53

ASPuar wrote: Who will punish J Jayalalitha, for yelling "Army should compensate the family", "We will not allow the army to get away with this"?

IMO no one and no punishment is necessary. JJ has spoken like a seasoned politician who is adept at handling emotional crowds. If she takes the BRF style "sensible line" by saying "Let us wait for the enquiry report" she gets attacked by her political opponents and many who are on her side for being callous.

Imagine if there had been a riot in the area with army residences attacked, the child of an army man injured and an army guard shooting a rioter and police lathi charging crowds who were protesting the death of a boy. Jayalalitha forestalled such ugliness with aplomb. She used an old political trick - she winks at the army brass and says "We will not allow the army blah blah blah" knowing fully well that the people will feel consoled - knowing that with the powerful CM firmly on their side, justice will be done and she will help bring the culprits to book. And sure enough - a week later we have the truth.

This is a classic case of dharma being ultimately served by a wily Chanakya. We cannot mix army style truthful brusqueness with people-manipulating political rhetoric. The two cannot mix. One cannot replace the other.

A day or two ago there was a new item about two children in Kashmir being killed after picking up a grenade thrown somewhere by terrorists who were later cleared up in an army action. The boys not only picked up the grenade, but they fiddled with it and blew themselves up. The incident was reported to the media by a person who blamed the army by saying "Oh the army do not clear the area of explosives after a battle". That is clearly untrue, but you and I know that a grenade thrown can easily get missed if it has been thrown well away from the site of action. When people are being misinformed about the army by a vested interest, it is the duty of a politician to act as a suitable go-between ensuring that there is both peace and lack of animosity towards an army that may well be innocent. Jayalalitha did that well in my view. A murder took place. The army is now clear. The people (bar the bereaved) will be satisfied. Jayalalitha has taken the heat on herself by "appearing wrong". That is good politics.

karan_mc · Post by **karan_mc** » 12 Jul 2011 07:42

India halts US missions to find World War II dead in Arunachal

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Jul 2011 08:54

karan_mc wrote:India halts US missions to find World War II dead in Arunachal

What a coincidence that in 60 year after WWII the US wants to do the research now when PRC is interested in the area for expansion.

Looks like US wants to help PRC to expand.

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 12 Jul 2011 11:23

shiv wrote:
ASPuar wrote: Who will punish J Jayalalitha, for yelling "Army should compensate the family", "We will not allow the army to get away with this"?
IMO no one and no punishment is necessary. JJ has spoken like a seasoned politician who is adept at handling emotional crowds. If she takes the BRF style "sensible line" by saying "Let us wait for the enquiry report" she gets attacked by her political opponents and many who are on her side for being callous.

Agree with you 100% Shivji... I can see the politician in you now..
IMHO, even the Lt. Col should not be punished but strongly reprimanded and his licensed weapon should be confiscated. He will claim self defense and rightly so. The boy trespassed into a restricted area KNOWING IT WAS AN ARMY AREA, HE HAD DONE THIS BEFORE.

See an example of a sign posted.I AM NOT CLAIMING THIS IS THE SIGN POSTED IN CHENNAI. I HAVE REQUESTED FOR A PIC FROM MY CONTACT IN CHENNAI.

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 12 Jul 2011 11:28

Acharya wrote:
karan_mc wrote:India halts US missions to find World War II dead in Arunachal
What a coincidence that in 60 year after WWII the US wants to do the research now when PRC is interested in the area for expansion.
Looks like US wants to help PRC to expand.

i THINK SDREs are playing into PRCs hands in not allowing this mission by the US, What will Desh do if PRC allows US team to explore from its side and they cross over into India, fire at them? wont this create a handle for PRC that Arunachal is theirs...
One of my uncles used to tell me how Desh did not allow mountaineering teams from abroad to scale peaks in Indian side of Kashmir decades ago and Pak used to facilitate these trips (for $$$s offcourse) and built the premise among western nations that they control this region.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Jul 2011 11:47

Shrinivasan wrote:
i THINK SDREs are playing into PRCs hands in not allowing this mission by the US, What will Desh do if PRC allows US team to explore from its side and they cross over into India, fire at them? wont this create a handle for PRC that Arunachal is theirs...
One of my uncles used to tell me how Desh did not allow mountaineering teams from abroad to scale peaks in Indian side of Kashmir decades ago and Pak used to facilitate these trips (for $$$s offcourse) and built the premise among western nations that they control this region.

Western nations are interested in the borders always and especially the the contested borders.
The US army does war games based on their models of the both sides on the border
They make assessment on the capability and figure our who gets the advantage. Do you have any info why India did not use air power during the 1962 war.

PRC info is available to Uncle but is not available for India completely. Too many gaps. Do India want to allow more info to others when it does not have access to info inside Tibet.

jimmy_moh · Post by **jimmy_moh** » 12 Jul 2011 12:07

Shrinivasan wrote: IMHO, even the Lt. Col should not be punished but strongly reprimanded and his licensed weapon should be confiscated. He will claim self defense and rightly so. The boy trespassed into a restricted area KNOWING IT WAS AN ARMY AREA, HE HAD DONE THIS BEFORE.

self defense from what 13year old boy.....

Mr. Ramaraj dumped the murder weapon in the Cooum river the same night of the incident. Mr. Ramaraj was at his balcony of his house when he shot at Dilson.

if he has done for self dfense he dont want to dump his weapons.....

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 12 Jul 2011 12:14

jimmy_moh wrote:
Shrinivasan wrote: IMHO, even the Lt. Col should not be punished but strongly reprimanded and his licensed weapon should be confiscated. He will claim self defense and rightly so. The boy trespassed into a restricted area KNOWING IT WAS AN ARMY AREA, HE HAD DONE THIS BEFORE.
self defense from what 13year old boy.....

Mr. Ramaraj dumped the murder weapon in the Cooum river the same night of the incident. Mr. Ramaraj was at his balcony of his house when he shot at Dilson.

if he has done for self dfense he dont want to dump his weapons.....

Multiple parties have to share the blame.

The kid less and the colonel a bit more and the kids parents the most.

A horrendous mistake was made and the full majesty of the law will descend on the unfortunate.

Leave it be, there is nothing worthwhile to be gained by raking up this issue.

jimmy_moh · Post by **jimmy_moh** » 12 Jul 2011 12:19

^^^
completely agree with u....

jai · Post by **jai** » 12 Jul 2011 12:30

Shrinivasan wrote: IMHO, even the Lt. Col should not be punished but strongly reprimanded and his licensed weapon should be confiscated. He will claim self defense and rightly so. The boy trespassed into a restricted area KNOWING IT WAS AN ARMY AREA, HE HAD DONE THIS BEFORE.

The Lt col is on a loosing wicket. He was drunk and fired at an unarmed juvenile who posed him no threat. There was no high threat perception either otherwise army guards would not be carrying sticks but guns. The Col can't claim self defense even if the boy was trying to enter his house forget steal fruits from a tree in the cantt and is liable. The courts are bound to throw his pleas out as robbers are not shot in our country under IPC.

See an example of a sign posted.I AM NOT CLAIMING THIS IS THE SIGN POSTED IN CHENNAI. I HAVE REQUESTED FOR A PIC FROM MY CONTACT IN CHENNAI.

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 12 Jul 2011 12:48

chetak wrote:
Multiple parties have to share the blame.

The kid less and the colonel a bit more and the kids parents the most.

A horrendous mistake was made and the full majesty of the law will descend on the unfortunate.

Leave it be, there is nothing worthwhile to be gained by raking up this issue.

Only problem here is that the so-called blah-blah-blah full majesty blah-blah-blah-blah only occurs when people from the services are involved. Where is the full majesty when everyone from crooked politicians (do I need an adjective here?) to bent cops to petty criminals to corrupt babus break the law with impunity?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 12 Jul 2011 12:56

merlin wrote:
chetak wrote:
Multiple parties have to share the blame.

The kid less and the colonel a bit more and the kids parents the most.

A horrendous mistake was made and the full majesty of the law will descend on the unfortunate.

Leave it be, there is nothing worthwhile to be gained by raking up this issue.
Only problem here is that the so-called blah-blah-blah full majesty blah-blah-blah-blah only occurs when people from the services are involved. Where is the full majesty when everyone from crooked politicians (do I need an adjective here?) to bent cops to petty criminals to corrupt babus break the law with impunity?

it comes with the territory

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Jul 2011 13:47

merlin wrote: Only problem here is that the so-called blah-blah-blah full majesty blah-blah-blah-blah only occurs when people from the services are involved. Where is the full majesty when everyone from crooked politicians (do I need an adjective here?) to bent cops to petty criminals to corrupt babus break the law with impunity?

Well she certainly took it out against the DMK and some of the old man's sons who are petty criminals. But that is OT. Jayalalitha is too clever to be anti-national or anti armed forces. I think she is probably cleverer than any one of us here by half.

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 12 Jul 2011 14:30

Army in naxal areas only for training: Defence Minister Antony

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 12 Jul 2011 15:13

shiv wrote:
merlin wrote: Only problem here is that the so-called blah-blah-blah full majesty blah-blah-blah-blah only occurs when people from the services are involved. Where is the full majesty when everyone from crooked politicians (do I need an adjective here?) to bent cops to petty criminals to corrupt babus break the law with impunity?
Well she certainly took it out against the DMK and some of the old man's sons who are petty criminals. But that is OT. Jayalalitha is too clever to be anti-national or anti armed forces. I think she is probably cleverer than any one of us here by half.

She is only pro-her is all I will say. If that needs her to be anti-national she will be. Cleverer than the whole bunch collectively is - yes that could well be true.

vaibhav.n · Post by **vaibhav.n** » 12 Jul 2011 19:03

Old conference but some very interesting possible future force structure and deployments.

Proposed Force Structure should comprise of the following: -
1. Joint Special Forces Command.
2. Joint Out of Area Contingency Command with an Air Assault Division and a Marine Division. The Air Assault Division would comprise an Air Assault Brigade, a Para Brigade and an Air Mobile Brigade.
3. A Marine Division would comprise two Marine Brigades (BMP based with ACVs and Jet Powered Ships) and a Heliborne Brigade (Tilt Rotor/ALH based on LPD/Helicopter Carrier).

• Forward basing will be required as under:
o Maldives. Secure basing facilities at Gan for a battalion group. Could be in the form of IMTRAT-type training mission. Base MR Aircraft with Anti Ship Missiles and Torpedoes.
o Oman Sultan Qaboos had expressed desire for basing an Indian contingent in Oman. An IMTRAT-type facility could also be set up here.
o Vietnam. Seek basing facilities for Indian Naval ships and Aircraft at Camh Ran Bay if China gets the same at Gwadar.
o Nicobar. Raise and deploy a second ‘navalised’ Jaguar Squadron at Nicobar.

There is case for India to develop, train and maintain a rapid reaction task force for intervention/stabilization/peace keeping. This force has to be a multi dimensional tri service task force that must operate under a ‘Joint Operations Command’ or a ‘Strategic Command’. The force must also have representation from civil affairs, human rights, civil police and diplomatic corps.
• The composition of this is force could be as follows:

• Army Component.

A Force HQ (may be on the lines of a Corps HQ)
A parachute brigade. (A parachute brigade needs 7-8 IL-76 and 32 AN-32 ac to be airlifted.)
A light air transportable armoured brigade.
An amphibious brigade.
Air transportable infantry brigade.
Army aviation, assault engineers, communications and logistics units.

• Naval Component.

Aircraft carrier.
INS Jalashwa.
Appropriate surface and sub-surface crafts.
Aerial maritime capability.

• AF Component.

Strike aircraft.
Helicopters.
Strategic airlift capability.

• Special Forces Component.

Appropriate number of Special Forces units.
This component should also include MARCOS.

• Civilian Component. Diplomatic personnel /civil affairs personnel/police personnel/etc.

A minimum US style 'Heavy' Division level Expeditionary capability is being talked about seriously doubt these formations can be logistically maintained for a decent campaign!! Interesting. With the C-17 and the C-130 deal this at least now are past the planning stages!!

Link: http://www.claws.in/index.php?action=de ... 274&u_id=5

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 13 Jul 2011 09:12

shiv wrote:Well she certainly took it out against the DMK and some of the old man's sons who are petty criminals. But that is OT. Jayalalitha is too clever to be anti-national or anti armed forces. I think she is probably cleverer than any one of us here by half.

As usual I agree with your surmise... Amma is very smart, she figured out which way the wind blew and moved with it. Most importantly she snuffed out a law and order issue so early in her tenure, that too so close to the assembly/secretariat. An un-intended benefit, trespassers would be wary of venturing into defence areas here after. god forbid, this leads to dothi shivering among MPs and Security guards in cantonments.

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 13 Jul 2011 09:17

From the Claws conference link

o Nicobar. Raise and deploy a second ‘navalised’ Jaguar Squadron at Nicobar.

IAF DID NOT deploy a SQ of maritime Jaguar in Car Nicobar AFB, there was a detachment of 3-4 Jags there on a temporary basis. Never a SQ strength. We have not YET established the requite infrastructure to base a SQ of any fighters aircraft in ANC. my 0.0002 cents...
This is based on public domain and Chaiwala info. Am happy to be contradicted with facts...

Bala Vignesh · Post by **Bala Vignesh** » 13 Jul 2011 09:21

Shrinivasan wrote:From the Claws conference link
o Nicobar. Raise and deploy a second ‘navalised’ Jaguar Squadron at Nicobar.
IAF DID NOT deploy a SQ of maritime Jaguar in Car Nicobar AFB, there was a detachment of 3-4 Jags there on a temporary basis. Never a SQ strength. We have not YET established the requite infrastructure to base a SQ of any fighters aircraft in ANC. my 0.0002 cents...
This is based on public domain and Chaiwala info. Am happy to be contradicted with facts...

The author probably meant to raise another Jaguar IM squadron and deploy it in ANC.. The first Jaguar IM squadron, No 6 Squadron, is currently somewhere in the NW..

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 13 Jul 2011 09:33

Bala Vignesh wrote:The author probably meant to raise another Jaguar IM squadron and deploy it in ANC.. The first Jaguar IM squadron, No 6 Squadron, is currently somewhere in the NW..

#6 SQ of Jaguar IMs is based in Jamnagar AFB. I doubt it will moved out of Jamnagar considering the need protecting the maritime boundary in the SW command airspace.

Did we order more Jaguar IMs from HAL, i thought our DARIN III upgrades were all for IS/IB versions. I have yet to see new Jag IMs from HAL

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 13 Jul 2011 09:35

Is the Indian "Joint Amphibious Warfare Doctrine" available in public domain

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 13 Jul 2011 11:58

X-Posted from the Police Investigations related thread....
Letters to the Editor @ The Hindu. On the case of a Retd. Lt.Col killing a boy who tresspassed into the Army Residential compound. Read at own risk. The letters dont have a very favourable opinion of the Army. Though some of the concerns are valid, especially ganging up against railway authorities etc.
First Set
Second Set

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 13 Jul 2011 12:21

Hakim Sahib has given an excellent account of Ms Jayalalitha's compulsions.She has acted in a very wise way defusing a situation that could have turned nasty. tamizh tabloids of a certain bent and fringe groups could have exploited the situation.Maybe she was a bit shrill,but in no way can be painted as 'Anti-Army'.The bullet was fired by an ex-officer from within the Defence Area.So the shrillness can be excused.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 13 Jul 2011 13:05

Sachin wrote:X-Posted from the Police Investigations related thread....
Letters to the Editor @ The Hindu. On the case of a Retd. Lt.Col killing a boy who tresspassed into the Army Residential compound. Read at own risk. The letters dont have a very favourable opinion of the Army. Though some of the concerns are valid, especially ganging up against railway authorities etc.
First Set
Second Set

It only shows the lack of knowledge and awareness by bunch of people who felt compelled to comment on IA when the issue has nothing to do with IA. There are dime-a-dozen such rage incidents - but somehow, IA needs to be dragged into it. It simply shows the attitude of the society which simply wants Services to fight for it but stay away from sight and out of mind. Great!

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Jul 2011 13:15

rohitvats wrote: It simply shows the attitude of the society which simply wants Services to fight for it but stay away from sight and out of mind. Great!

Probably an unfair generalization?

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 13 Jul 2011 13:17

abhishek_sharma wrote:
rohitvats wrote: It simply shows the attitude of the society which simply wants Services to fight for it but stay away from sight and out of mind. Great!
Probably an unfair generalization?

My comment was specificaly to the link posted by Sachin. But even overall, no one gives sh*t about services.

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 13 Jul 2011 13:27

abhishek_sharma wrote:
rohitvats wrote: It simply shows the attitude of the society which simply wants Services to fight for it but stay away from sight and out of mind. Great!
Probably an unfair generalization?

Why so? An idiot says, army quarters should be in jungle? Another idiot says he shouldn't have shot him in anger? How did he know the lt. Col. Shot in anger?
Another person is prescribing syllabus for army officers. Another talks about a retired col should work to increase height of compound wall. Sheer ignorance, an overwhelming desire to malign forces with nary a thought to analyze data points.
No one found fault with a boy climbing the wall into a restricted area and stealing. What difference does it make if he stole a fruit or a gun or jewelry.
Nobody commended the army authorities for achieving a quick closure of this issue after a swift investigation.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Jul 2011 13:31

rohitvats wrote: But even overall, no one gives sh*t about services.

Not quite. The respect for the Army/IAF after Kargil and 26/11 was clearly visible.

People often bring up civilians and politicians in this debate. How many people respect politicians? Shoes have been thrown at Omar Abdullah and P. Chidambaram (MMS escaped narrowly). Some high profile politicians (Kalmadi, Laloo, A Raja, Kanimozi, etc.) have gone to jail. The agitation for Lokpal Bill shows what people think about the honesty of our politicians.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Jul 2011 13:42

Shrinivasan wrote: Why so? An idiot says, army quarters should be in jungle?

It is important to note that one guy says so. Rohit used the term "the society".

Shrinivasan wrote: No one found fault with a boy climbing the wall into a restricted area and stealing. What difference does it make if he stole a fruit or a gun or jewelry.

Stealing should not be punished by death. Tamil Nadu is not Nagaland or J&K. A 13-year old boy is not a mob led by Geelani. I don't think he was a security threat. If the law books say: "Trespassers will be shot", I would argue that people who are involved in crimes more serious than trespassing should be shot as well. Are we (Army and civilians) willing to accept such standards?

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 13 Jul 2011 14:17

Law book does not say anything about trespassers, big boards on the compound wall says so. This boy was a repeat offender.it has been just a month since PNS Mehran, would you want one in Desh. Forces would be on alert in bases, we don't want another Kulchuk, defense colonies need protection, trespassers need to be dealt with sternly, else this verbal abuse on Chindu will spread to physical abuse of service members.

Shrinivasan · Post by **Shrinivasan** » 13 Jul 2011 14:22

In the US, if one ventures into a base, you will be shot at and then questions will be asked. No pussyfooting here. Because the victim was a young boy, everybody is having a collective 0rga$m, we saw tellebunnies using a 8 year old girl as a suside bum, so age is not a criterion for action. Wedont know if he was shot to kill or wound or scare? Again it was an individuals decision and not an army directive or order.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Jul 2011 14:26

Shrinivasan wrote:Law book does not say anything about trespassers, big boards on the compound wall says so. This boy was a repeat offender.it has been just a month since PNS Mehran, would you want one in Desh. Forces would be on alert in bases, we don't want another Kulchuk, defense colonies need protection, trespassers need to be dealt with sternly, else this verbal abuse on Chindu will spread to physical abuse of service members.

Such tough standards are probably needed in J&K. I don't think there are many Pakis on the streets of Tamil Nadu. To compare this incident to Kaluchak and PNS Mehran is an overstatement.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Jul 2011 14:28

Shrinivasan wrote:In the US, if one ventures into a base, you will be shot at and then questions will be asked. No pussyfooting here..

So? Should we blindly emulate U.S.?

Shrinivasan wrote: Because the victim was a young boy, everybody is having a collective 0rga$m, we saw tellebunnies using a 8 year old girl as a suside bum, so age is not a criterion for action. Wedont know if he was shot to kill or wound or scare? Again it was an individuals decision and not an army directive or order.

What is the probability of a child suicide bombing in Tamil Nadu? God knows what happened to rational thinking.

Gaur · Post by **Gaur** » 13 Jul 2011 14:34

abhishek_sharma wrote:
rohitvats wrote: It simply shows the attitude of the society which simply wants Services to fight for it but stay away from sight and out of mind. Great!
Probably an unfair generalization?

One observation though. If you pick a random Indian on the road, you would find that he can relate at least one bad incident about army (scam, killing etc....take your pick). But how many bravery incidents can he narrate? None. Almost everyone would have heard about "security forces" violating human rights in J&K. But how many have heard that IA provides free healthcare, education, sports opportunities, build roads etc in J&K? You would be hard pressed to find one person who can narrate one such act. Why are people oblivious to that? After all, there are infinitely more incidents of sacrifices than corruption.Media shouts day and night about wrongdoings but just gives a passing comment on some xyz dying, IA/IAF doing this rescue operation etc. So is media to blame? Partially...but media only shows what people want to see. If people are more interested in news channels showing comedy circus and astrology shows, then that is one skewed priority list.

There is a lot of hue and cry when the boy got killed (and rightly so). But why are there no dharnas and protests when the war widows do not get their due?

It is very important for both the Nation and the Services that the bad cases are brought forth. However, I fail to understand the fascination to highlight only the bad cases. Should there not be a more balanced view?

PS: BTW, I personally cannot find it in myself to defend the Lt Col. If news reports are to be believed, he indeed shot the boy in frustration and anger. Unless the man's very life was threatened, he had no right to shoot. Children trespassing residential colonies in to pick fruits is a common occurrence in open old cantts. If everyone goes on acting like him, there would be news of multiple minor deaths on a daily basis.