Serial Blasts in Mumbai 2011 & Discussion on 2006 Case Verdict

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 Jul 2011 12:15

i seem to recall needhi razdan ripping barka a new musharaf for not blaming pakistan during the 26/11 incident - this was the whole mic switched on off camera comment episode that was discussed on BRF at some length

so lets take it easy people before we start hanging everyone

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 15 Jul 2011 12:45

The current UPA govt. led by the most impotent of all Indian leaders since Independence,SI Singh,will be crushed between the "hammer and anvil" of corruption and terrorism at the next hustings.The ordinary folk of India came out onto the streets protesting against corruption in support of Anna Hazare and Baba Ramdev.Whatever might be the controversies of these two individuals and their crusade against corruption,the people's anger remains.So too with this latest round of terror perpatrated by Pak against India.Who cares what the name of the outfit is which carried out the strike as the masterminds are the Paki military from Gen.Kiyani downwards.These two issues will devastate the UPA and Congress and the manner in which the DMK was despatched into the garbage bin of TN politics is a grim warning to SI Singh and co.In fact SI Singh can't wait to ascend to the throne of the Indian President,to escape the wrath of the electorate and feather his own nest by snaring the cushiest of all jobs in the country being India's head of state,where he will remain enthroned in magnificent splendour a pliable puppet pres. doing his foreign master or mistresses' bidding!

The daughter of the slain police chief of Mumbai,interviewed by a channel,said that if nothing happened this time round ,meaning serious govt. action,then she would come out onto the streets with others.SI Singh's expected sabre-rattling to the terrorists is not even a joke .History has repated itself in Mumbai,the first time, 26/11 was a terrible tragedy,the second time it has been reduced to a farce with the inaction against terror and the expected parrot-like mouthings of SI Singh and co. With this latest round of terror perpetrated by Pak,and the rush to Mumbai by SI Singh and Sonia G,I am reminded of that famous figure from fiction,Don Quixote,who "tilted at windmills",supported by his loyal manservant Sancho Panza.The good doctor of snake oil,could be described in similar manner except that in the Indian version of the tale of the mad knight,it is he playing the role of Sancho Panza on horseback "tilting at windmills"-ranting and raving against terror,while Dona Sonia is in the supporting role remaining loyally at his side !

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 15 Jul 2011 12:52

Mumbai blasts: Scooter on which bomb was planted identified

The investigators have identified a scooter on which one of the bombs was planted to trigger the Wednesday terror strikes in Mumbai, according to Union home secretary RK Singh.

However, more than 36 hours after terror struck Mumbai, the investigators are yet to report any definitive leads.

Giving an update on the status of investigations, the Union home secretary said that crucial CCTV footage in connection with the serial blasts are being probed by the investigating agencies.

He said attempts are being made to identify all those appearing in the recordings with the help of locals.

The investigating agencies hope to find crucial leads from the CCTV recordings, he said.

The home secretary said there is a total of 11 CDs that need to be scrutinized and the process will take time.

All suspicious people found in the recordings are being verified.

The Union home secretary also confirned the presence of an e-mail that originated outside country and said that the mail is being investigated. He did not give the details about the mail or its origin.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 Jul 2011 12:55

i'd say that incident response and media handling have improved considerably - and that the way things are being done now (leave aside politics for the time being) looks much better organised than before - in particular random sound bytes to the media fuelling speculation has reduced and police operating procedures look better

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 15 Jul 2011 13:08

Lalmohan wrote:i seem to recall needhi razdan ripping barka a new musharaf for not blaming pakistan during the 26/11 incident - this was the whole mic switched on off camera comment episode that was discussed on BRF at some length

so lets take it easy people before we start hanging everyone

quite the reverse. bark da hutt swore at razdan for bringing pakistan into the discussion. seem like she has learnt her lesson.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 Jul 2011 13:14

then who was the anchor who swore at barkha off camera?

sum · Post by **sum** » 15 Jul 2011 13:15

The Union home secretary also confirned the presence of an e-mail that originated outside country and said that the mail is being investigated. He did not give the details about the mail or its origin.

Which e-mail? Whom was it sent to?

There hasn't been a whiff of any e-mail in any DDM outlet!

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 15 Jul 2011 13:24

Pretty powerful, well designed bombs, judging from the mangled remains, for something that had no RDX but "only" Ammonium Nitrate:

Car

Scooter/Mobike

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Jul 2011 13:36

Rahul M wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:i seem to recall needhi razdan ripping barka a new musharaf for not blaming pakistan during the 26/11 incident - this was the whole mic switched on off camera comment episode that was discussed on BRF at some length

so lets take it easy people before we start hanging everyone
quite the reverse. bark da hutt swore at razdan for bringing pakistan into the discussion. seem like she has learnt her lesson.

Any chance of someone having the audio or a link to it?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 Jul 2011 13:37

The sentiment towards Nidhi is understandable, but not entirely justified. Observations suggest the following environment within NDTV:

Nidhi is on the ascendant, while Barkha is on a downward gradient (only the steepness of it remains subject of uncertainty). The latter's growing unpopularity within the organisation, and in the online world is at least beginning to have an impact on her career. It is however being finessed through the age-old realities that no humans can avoid, namely: Barkha is a fat old cow (by media standards) while youngistan does not much care for her looks, and she has no specific "integrity" pillar to cling to (kargil reportage, 26/11 reportage, intercepted phone calls). Barkha has apparently been taking measures to reverse the trend, seemingly on a diet (crash), she has lost some weight, and tried to "feminise" herself a bit more. She remains fugly. There is no chance of this having any success against the looks of Nidhi, and her screen presence, or her chemistry with the talk-show crowds. Chances are, therefore, that Barkha will face the life-choice of stagnation in her frontline role, or being pushed upwards and increasingly out of sight.

Consequently, as Nidhi gains more relative power, and her sense of the public becomes more finely attuned, you will find her positions becoming more nuanced and reflecting a finer balance. She is a Kashmiri and probably has a better understanding of the situation there, and the fundamental issues involved, than most of us. But she has a job, and she needs to keep it. Undoubtedly, compromises will have to be made, and will be. We need to be a little more charitable.

Like I said, these are observations and could be entirely wrong. However, would appreciate if someone can tell me how wrong they are.

Disclaimer: I have already claimed somewhere in one of the threads in the fairly recent past that I find her to be attractive

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 15 Jul 2011 13:39

^ Watching NDTV is haraam onlee.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Jul 2011 13:42

JE Menon wrote:The sentiment towards Nidhi is understandable, but not entirely justified. Observations suggest the following environment within NDTV:

Nidhi is on the ascendant, while Barkha is on a downward gradient (only the steepness of it remains subject of uncertainty). The latter's growing unpopularity within the organisation, and in the online world is at least beginning to have an impact on her career. It is however being finessed through the age-old realities that no humans can avoid, namely: Barkha is a fat old cow (by media standards) while youngistan does not much care for her looks, and she has no specific "integrity" pillar to cling to (kargil reportage, 26/11 reportage, intercepted phone calls). Barkha has apparently been taking measures to reverse the trend, seemingly on a diet (crash), she has lost some weight, and tried to "feminise" herself a bit more. She remains fugly. There is no chance of this having any success against the looks of Nidhi, and her screen presence, or her chemistry with the talk-show crowds. Chances are, therefore, that Barkha will face the life-choice of stagnation in her frontline role, or being pushed upwards and increasingly out of sight.

Consequently, as Nidhi gains more relative power, and her sense of the public becomes more finely attuned, you will find her positions becoming more nuanced and reflecting a finer balance. She is a Kashmiri and probably has a better understanding of the situation there, and the fundamental issues involved, than most of us. But she has a job, and she needs to keep it. Undoubtedly, compromises will have to be made, and will be. We need to be a little more charitable.

Like I said, these are observations and could be entirely wrong. However, would appreciate if someone can tell me how wrong they are.

Disclaimer: I have already claimed somewhere in one of the threads in the fairly recent past that I find her to be attractive

The barking mutt is looking almost presentable these days!

I was wondering if there was any evidence of surgically assisted cosmetic enhancement?

Any one notice anything??

Smoother lines or reshaped feature?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 Jul 2011 13:49

Jawline is tauter, and some plastrickery appears possible. However, make-up tartistes these days are very skillfool.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 15 Jul 2011 13:51

JE Menon wrote:Observations suggest the following environment within NDTV

That's a good analysis of intra-NDTV affairs - but what can have more impact long-term is how the inter-English news channel battle for eyeballs works out....

NDTV is increasingly seen as nauseatingly 'politically correct' and high-brow, compared to the more hard-hitting and 'calling a spade a spade' stye of TimesNow and Arnab Goswami. NDTV has been steadily slipping further behind TimesNow in market share.... Remains to be seen if Prannoy Roy learns some lessons from this as to what style appeals in the Indian market.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Jul 2011 13:52

JE Menon wrote:Jawline is tauter, and some plastrickery appears possible. However, make-up tartistes these days are very skillfool.

Delightful choice of words saar!

There's definitely some nip and tuck there.

This is one oldie who will never become a goldie

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Jul 2011 13:55

Arjun wrote:
JE Menon wrote:Observations suggest the following environment within NDTV
That's a good analysis of intra-NDTV affairs - but what can have more impact long-term is how the inter-English news channel battle for eyeballs works out....

NDTV is increasingly seen as nauseatingly 'politically correct' and high-brow, compared to the more hard-hitting and 'calling a spade a spade' stye of TimesNow and Arnab Goswami. NDTV has been steadily slipping further behind TimesNow in market share.... Remains to be seen if Prannoy Roy learns some lessons from this as to what style appeals in the Indian market.

"Politically correct" only as per the current nauseating dispensation and benefiting catholic ladies onlee.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 Jul 2011 14:00

Correct, Arjun. I'm hoping also for Headline News to show some cojones. So far they've been all balls.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 15 Jul 2011 14:07

JE Menon wrote:Correct, Arjun. I'm hoping also for Headline News to show some cojones. So far they've been all balls.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 Jul 2011 14:23

JEM saa'b - nidhi razdan is the thinking mullah's lal-madam

i find her anchoring to be quite good on the whole, and i haven't seen any of the biases others have commented on above

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 15 Jul 2011 14:36

Two wheeler used Mumbai blast identified: Home Secy

New Delhi Security agencies have identified the owner of the two-wheeler in which the explosive material was planted at Zaveri bazar in Mumbai as cyber experts are looking into an email which may have some cross-border links.

Union Home Secretary R K Singh said investigations into the serial blasts in the metropolis was going on and several people were being questioned based on their "previous known linkages".

"This investigation is on. We have identified the scooter in which one of the bombs was planted," he told reporters on the sidelines of a function here.

Asked whether there was any cross-border links to the Wednesday's blasts, the Home Secretary said: "We have an email which originated elsewhere. It is being followed up".

Singh said the CCTV footages of the three blast sites were being scrutinised by the investigators and they were going through the 11 CDs made from the footages.

"Now, we have all the people and the faces appeared. They have to be recognised by local people to see whether they are locals or outsiders. That process is on. There are 11 CDs which have been gone through. It is a voluminous work," he said.

The Home Secretary said people not recognised by the locals have been put through a data base and they were being verified.

"Suspicious people are being verified. Various people with previous known linkages are being questioned based on our previous data bases. This investigation is on," he said.

Asked whether the investigators were working on any definite lead, Singh said "we have not yet zeroed in on".

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 15 Jul 2011 14:40

^^^ babus using facial recognition software? good good

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 15 Jul 2011 14:52

JE Menon wrote:Disclaimer: I have already claimed somewhere in one of the threads in the fairly recent past that I find her to be attractive

Undoubtedly - perhaps the hottest "serious" babe in the electronic media since Damini Kumar (CNBC, 8-9 years back for people who remember)..But knowing a little bit chaiwallah stuff about NDTV, I dont think that the rest of the proposition is correct...But lets leave that aside (maybe Vishnu Som can comment

)...

Media groups, especially in the crowded electronic space, are marketing themselves..EAch of them has a specific niche..NDTV has traditionally tried taking the high brow, slightly "intellectual" path - a lot of it courtesy their lineage - they were the pioneers with serious people like Prannoy Roy, Appan Menon (World This Week), Vinod Dua, Surya Gangadharan...It doesnt mean they havent done the "jingo" bit - refer to their Kargil coverage for example...But today, with other channels, especially Times Now taking on the ultra "right wing" space, they need to hold a certain narrative to maintain a distinct niche...A "responsible, centrist, sober" voice is what they seek to project...

Whether its Nidhi Razdan or anyone else, they simply follow at a broader level, the editorial narrative of the medium...In that respect, print can be a lot more eclectic - so a platform like The Hindu can have someone like Praveen Swami...But its a lot different in a transient medium like TV...

Look at Arnab Goswami..Compare his sober, dignified avatar in NDTV versus the current one in TimesNow (I still remember an interview on Newshour conducted by him and Rajdeep with Praveen Togadia, aftermath of Gujarat 2002 - it was Arnab who was keeping the whole thing from literally blowing up)...Is it him the person? I doubt it (used to bump into him off and on during evening walks in Carter Road a few years back - he was staying in Mum when they were launching the channel - very very soft spoken guy)....Its the positioning of the channel...

One more point - a lot of the English TV media world is quite incestuous - they recruit from a specific social class - of fellow journos, bureaucrats, politicians...Nidhi Razdan's dad headed PTI for a long time...Vikram Chandra is the son of Satish Chandra...Barkha Dutt's mom was a pioneering war journo herself...Sreenivasan Jain is the son of LP Jain...Sonia Singh is married to Kanishka Singh (Rahul Gandhi's right hand man, SK Singh's son)...Therefore, the editorial narrative too gets skewed by the social class that these guys come from...

Its changing apparently (chaiwallah sources again!) - a senior of mine, from a "normal middle class background" spent quite a bit of time in NDTV Profit and did quite well there...

Net net, not every channel is addressing a BRF audience...And not every journo is "free" to say, esp on TV, what he/she really thinks about an issue...

JMT...

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 15 Jul 2011 15:10

times now is right wing ? that too ultra ? being centrist is the extent of its rightwingness.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 15 Jul 2011 15:19

Lalmohan wrote:JEM saa'b - nidhi razdan is the thinking mullah's lal-madam
i find her anchoring to be quite good on the whole, and i haven't seen any of the biases others have commented on above

..Taking this to Nukkad.

RSoami · Post by **RSoami** » 15 Jul 2011 15:28

abhishek_sharma wrote:^ Watching NDTV is haraam onlee.

^ +1
Its sickening to watch these swollen heads self-appointed guardians of the country in action...I feel like puking.
Dont rememb the last time I saw news on TV...
If there ever was a need for fatwa in Dharma then should be served to those still watching darkha butt.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 15 Jul 2011 15:42

my observation today of madam doing a piece from jhaveri bazar walking wearing a plastic raincoat in the rain was she is as fat and sack-of-potatoes as ever. too much rich food, too little exercise, too many long hours on tv.

she needs to retire. no youngistan gen will take to her look.

btw shaili chopra is also clearly showing her age in the skin marks on neck area...but not trying to hide it much, which is fine. there is an art to growing old gracefully with dignity.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 15 Jul 2011 16:04

No doubt Naresh Fernandes's moustache is the next topic for this thread.
What Mumbai spirit?
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/n ... umbai.html

arunsrinivasan · Post by **arunsrinivasan** » 15 Jul 2011 16:13

Rahul M wrote:times now is right wing ? that too ultra ? being centrist is the extent of its rightwingness.

Well you can't blame us for calling it right wing we grew up on NDTV and CNN-IBN after all

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 15 Jul 2011 16:16

Rahul M wrote:times now is right wing ? that too ultra ? being centrist is the extent of its rightwingness.

My sentiments exactly, anything right of extreme left is not Right wing. I agree narratives are fixed by Editors and news readers are not free to speak.

But media is not about what the audience wants , but what those pay the Editors/owners want the audience to want to here.

For eg. at the time of 2002 riots there was a widespread claim that Hundreds of Pregant womens Stomachs ripped open and the feotuses killed, the Former Defence minister also faced flake for his comments ont his. Later, these reports were proven false.

Now think people, did the audience want that the lie that Pregnant women feoteses were ripped open ? or the editors of newsChannels ran such a news for certain political interests for unkown consideration?

Decedie folks

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 15 Jul 2011 16:22

The Time for restraint is Over

If India is not to be reduced to a Lebanon of yesteryears or another Pakistan we need to act with sense of urgency, marshalling our resources and spirits and acting with a single minded determination to eradicate the scourge of terrorism before it consumes us, says Vivek Gumaste.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 15 Jul 2011 16:34

What are you guys talking about??

India is getting a great press internationally!!!

India praised for not pointing finger at Pakistan

Praising New Delhi for exercising caution in not pointing a finger at Islamabad for the Mumbai bombings, the Canadian media Thursday said India realises that Pakistan is already so unstable that any confrontation could push it over the brink.

India's politicians are "uncharacteristically exercising restraint and refusing to speculate over who was behind the fourth major terrorist attack on Mumbai in eight years", wrote the daily National Post.

"But the difference (in the Indian reaction) this time around may not be so much a new found sense of trust as it is fear South Asia could be plunged into a dangerous period of uncertainty and tension," according to the daily.

The paper said Wednesday's attacks couldn't have come at a worse time for the South Asian region. Pakistan flirts with violent disintegration and economic collapse as regional alliances are being strained by the growing rift between Islamabad and Washington following the killing of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden "practically on the doorstep of Pakistan's main military academy".

At such a time, a confrontation with India over yet another terrorist attack may push Pakistan over the brink, the newspaper said.

"Given the current uncertainty within the Pakistan military and volatile situation inside Pakistan, Indian leaders may be loath to escalate tensions with Pakistan," it quoted Lisa Curtis, a South Asia expert with Washington's Heritage Foundation, as saying.

However, Wednesday's bombings could complicate the newly started confidence building measures by the two countries.

Further, by stirring up old animosities, Pakistani terrorists might also buy themselves some relief from the pressure the US has been putting on Islamabad to step up its fight against jihadists, the paper said.

"One immediate outcome of Wednesday's bombing is certain to be that the Pakistani military's inclinations will be to stay focused on India rather than the militants, who maintain close ties to segments of the Pakistani armed forces and the intelligence service," the paper quoted James Dorsey, a researcher at the National University of Singapore's Middle East Institute, as saying.

ManishH · Post by **ManishH** » 15 Jul 2011 16:39

Ahmedabad police suspect Indian Mujahideen hand in Mumbai serial blasts
Looks like Ahmedabad Police has figured out the identity of the perpetrators ...

Ahmedabad police- the first to bust various modules of Indian Mujahideen (IM)- are not ready to accept any other theory in connection with the bomb blasts in Mumbai on Wednesday. The cops believe it to be the handiwork of middle rung IM operatives who are still on the run from Gujarat police.
Singh further said that, the top level members of IM is in Pakistan, but the middle rung operatives are still in India and they execute such blasts. "The middle level operatives are the 'hardcore' terrorists and are always on the move," he said.
...
Another police source familiar with the Ahmedabad serial blasts investigation said the possibility of any other terror outfit conducting such blasts is miniscule.

"The blast is clearly the work of IM," he said.

SandeepA · Post by **SandeepA** » 15 Jul 2011 16:59

Picked up on FB..

India's Home Minister says "We had no intelligence input about Mumbai blasts. But it is not an intelligence failure!"
Mr. Terrorist, can you please to send a post card to our Home minister before planting a bomb?
But, who can stop the home minister from saying, "We didn't get the post card, but it's not postal department failure!"????
God, before saving us from terrorists, please save us from these politicians!

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 15 Jul 2011 17:10

SandeepA wrote:Picked up on FB..

India's Home Minister says "We had no intelligence input about Mumbai blasts. But it is not an intelligence failure!"
Mr. Terrorist, can you please to send a post card to our Home minister before planting a bomb?
But, who can stop the home minister from saying, "We didn't get the post card, but it's not postal department failure!"????
God, before saving us from terrorists, please save us from these politicians!

Lets not go overboard, with this intelligence failure stuff, fact it there is a bunch of guys in the neighbourhood throwing rocks at our house, it is bound to hit someone's head. The only way you can end it by ending the guys throwing stones.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 15 Jul 2011 17:20

Raj Thackeray blames migrants for terror strikes, BSP calls him 'terrorist'

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 15 Jul 2011 17:25

When the corruption scandals are at the top of the chart in news, our great Prime Minister blamed it on coalition politics for the entire 2G scandal.

Here is another worthy who blames it again on coalition politics for the Mumbai blasts. This is the INC-NCP coalition though not the UPA.

Giving Home Ministry to NCP was a mistake: Maha CM

Amidst questions being raised on security issues in the wake of the Mumbai blasts, Maharashtra Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan today said Congress agreeing to give the key Home portfolio to NCP was a mistake.

"I think it was a mistake. We should have re-looked at it. I don't know of any other coalition government where the portfolios of Home, Finance and Planning are not with the Chief Minister," Chavan said.

"This was a division agreed to by us in 1999 when Congress-NCP first came to power in the state. That pattern was based on the model adopted by the Shiv Sena-BJP government during 1995-99," Chavan told a TV channel.

The Chief Minister's remarks have come at a time when Home Minister R R Patil of NCP, who had to quit after 26/11 terror attacks, has come under fire over the Mumbai blasts.

"But then this is also a unique government where two almost equal partners are running the government, unlike in Delhi or West Bengal where there is a dominant partner having small parties' support," Chavan said when asked if there was an internal contradiction that a key portfolio like Home is being held by a junior coalition partner.

"This is a unique coalition. But I don't think that is a major problem. We both (Congress and NCP) come from the Congress culture. We split in 1999 for some reason," he said.

Asked if this had hampered his functioning, Chavan said, "There are difficulties at times. Decision-making takes time. We take everybody on board. But I think it is a part of coalition politics." PTI

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 15 Jul 2011 17:29

Picked up on FB..

India's Home Minister says "We had no intelligence input about Mumbai blasts. But it is not an intelligence failure!"
Mr. Terrorist, can you please to send a post card to our Home minister before planting a bomb?
But, who can stop the home minister from saying, "We didn't get the post card, but it's not postal department failure!"????
God, before saving us from terrorists, please save us from these politicians!
Lets not go overboard, with this intelligence failure stuff, fact it there is a bunch of guys in the neighbourhood throwing rocks at our house, it is bound to hit someone's head. The only way you can end it by ending the guys throwing stones.

That's a bit too fatalistic. There is a lot of routine, standard, boring, professional police work that could be done (which is done in major US cities) which is not being done, as noted by Kiran Bedi and others in the Sagarika Ghose Face the Nation show posted here earlier.

Linky

Others like shiv here have also noted the dysfunctionality of the system in Indian cities like Mumbai. Just to say, "one stone is bound to hit" veers into the intellectually bankrupt territory of DIE like Rahul Gandhi.

Also, using expressions like "let's not go overboard" (I hope thoughtlessly and not deliberately) in this context connotes a condescending and manipulative tone, as if people having and articulating concerns and developing ideas interactively through forums such as these, are unintelligent, irrational and emotional creatures without a sense of proportion(by implication, unlike the speaker himself)--again a favorite rhetorical trick of DIE types.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 15 Jul 2011 17:32

abhishek_sharma wrote:Raj Thackeray blames migrants for terror strikes, BSP calls him 'terrorist'

What a B**turd, hope he meets his 72 if he keeps this type of Politics.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 15 Jul 2011 17:36

Aditya_V wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:Raj Thackeray blames migrants for terror strikes, BSP calls him 'terrorist'
What a B**turd, hope he meets his 72 if he keeps this type of Politics.

Between the kangress and this ba$tard who are Mumbaikars supposed to vote for in the next elections if they want the security situation to improve?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 15 Jul 2011 17:38

KLNMurthy wrote:quote]Picked up on FB..

India's Home Minister says "We had no intelligence input about Mumbai blasts. But it is not an intelligence failure!"
Mr. Terrorist, can you please to send a post card to our Home minister before planting a bomb?
But, who can stop the home minister from saying, "We didn't get the post card, but it's not postal department failure!"????
God, before saving us from terrorists, please save us from these politicians!/quote]

Lets not go overboard, with this intelligence failure stuff, fact it there is a bunch of guys in the neighbourhood throwing rocks at our house, it is bound to hit someone's head. The only way you can end it by ending the guys throwing stones.
That's a bit too fatalistic. There is a lot of routine, standard, boring, professional police work that could be done (which is done in major US cities) which is not being done, as noted by Kiran Bedi and others in the Sagarika Ghose Face the Nation show posted here earlier.

Linky

Others like shiv here have also noted the dysfunctionality of the system in Indian cities like Mumbai. Just to say, "one stone is bound to hit" veers into the intellectually bankrupt territory of DIE like Rahul Gandhi.

Also, using expressions like "let's not go overboard" (I hope thoughtlessly and not deliberately) in this context connotes a condescending and manipulative tone, as if people having and articulating concerns and developing ideas interactively through forums such as these, are unintelligent, irrational and emotional creatures without a sense of proportion(by implication, unlike the speaker himself)--again a favorite rhetorical trick of DIE types.

But US has got the defence of Geography, truth unless we hit the neighbour where it hurts say sink a submarine, stop the propaganda which falsly states that TSP/kashmir are only victims of everything but not perpatrators of nothing you will not get anywhere. And given India's geographic location, stuff like POTA which enable wiretapes, Interogations which today are not possible, you are never going to prevent enough terror attacks.