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Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 25 Jul 2011 19:59

^^^ one pakistani norwegian guy who survived the camp massacre was interviewed on tv - so am guessing that for brevik this camp was the epitome of multicultural liberalism that he held responsible for his ills

vishnua · Post by **vishnua** » 25 Jul 2011 19:59

RajeshA wrote:
CRamS wrote:If the moron didn't like Pakis, and I don't blame him for that, he could have done yomen service to mankind by taking out scores of Paki pigLeTs instead of his cowardly act of slaughtering his inncoent compatriots in cold blood.
He is attacking those, whom he considers the traitors in Europe. In his views waging a war against Islam does not help as long as these 'traitors' are not first dealt with.

He clearly states that what he thinks is the probem and according to him he is going after the root cause of the problem.

cause and effect = He thinks he is going after the cause not the effect. Had he gone after the effect then it would have had different impact and dimension.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 25 Jul 2011 20:12

vishnua wrote:cause and effect = He thinks he is going after the cause not the effect. Had he gone after the effect then it would have had different impact and dimension.

He and others like him are trapped between two effects and cannot see real cause. Cultish group identities that survive on systematic exploitation of the 'Other' and terrorist provocation will automatically create a counter-terrorist backlash. This is material nature, action and reaction - not really cause and effect.

Obsession with "traitors" within one's own identity group as a precursor to hitting the enemy in his own territory is not good strategy in this case and at this time, including for our own situation in India. Injustice should first be hit at the locus of its operation, both, physical and philosophical. Instead, this type of guy undermines his own civilization's capacity for liberal thought and reduces himself intpo a mirror image of the hated 'Other'.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 25 Jul 2011 20:15

[quote="Rony"]Norway killer espoused new right-wing, pro-Israel philosophy

Interestingly all these neo-nazis find a friend in Israel after harming them the most. I see lot of Pakiness in these EU-fascists.

vishnua · Post by **vishnua** » 25 Jul 2011 20:19

Carl,

I am just saying what he thinks is the cause that is all. Whether it is actually action/reaction, it is a diff matter.

It is quiet clear that he is totally lost.. well primitive/medival nature of europeans i guess did not go away...

It shows that they still need to evolve.....

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 25 Jul 2011 20:23

Sudip wrote: The only positive thing about the Hindu right wing is that they dominate the streets. They do not tolerate the current injustice and often riot and attack Muslims when things get out of control, usually after the Muslims disrespect and degrade Hinduism too much. This behaviour is nonetheless counterproductive. Because instead of attacking the Muslims they should target the category A and B traitors in India and consolidate military cells and actively seek the overthrow of the cultural Marxist government.
India will continue to wither and die unless the Indian nationalists consolidate properly and strike to win. It is essential that the European and Indian resistance movements learn from each other and cooperate as much as possible. Our goals are more or less identical.

Definition of Yindoos
Good Yindoos = If they succumb to dhimmitude and pay jijya
Bright Yindoos = If they become (sic) secular and hate yindooism
Yindoo terrorists = If they attack islamists and EJs
Yindoo fascists/Lunatics = If they attack Bright Yindoos.

I will be a Good Yindoo, by living in a 1924 reality...

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 25 Jul 2011 20:27

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14280210

Norwegian police are investigating claims by Anders Behring Breivik, who has admitted carrying out Friday's twin attacks in Norway, that he has "two more cells" working with him.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Jul 2011 04:10

Carl wrote:More re: the nature of the liberal youth camp that was targetted: Looks like not all the children at the Utoya camp were ethnic Norwegian. Reports here of some Persian, Kurdish and Iraqi kids at the camp, some of whom lost their lives. May have been some from other immigrant ethnicities too.

Is there an ethnic breakdown of the people he slaughtered?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Jul 2011 07:22

Moved to the Christian fundamentalism in Europe thread.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Jul 2011 07:26

Moved to the Xtian fundamentalism in the West thread.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Jul 2011 07:32

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A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Jul 2011 07:34

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sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Jul 2011 08:56

X-post:

sum wrote:^^
Norwegian mass killer's manifesto hails Hindutva

Goals of Indian Hindu nationalists were identical to Justiciar Knights, Anders Breivik claimed

Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik hailed India's Hindu nationalist movement as a key ally in a global struggle to bring down democratic regimes across the world.

‘2080: A European declaration of independence' lays out a road map for a future organisation, the Justiciar Knights, to wage a campaign that will graduate from acts of terrorism to a global war involving weapons of mass destruction — aimed at bringing down what Breivik calls the “cultural Marxist” order.

India figures in a remarkable 102 pages of the sprawling 1,518-page manifesto. Breivik's manifesto says his Justiciar Knights “support the Sanatana Dharma movements and Indian nationalists in general.” In section 3.158 of the manifesto, he explains that Hindu nationalists “are suffering from the same persecution by the Indian cultural Marxists as their European cousins.”
“Appeasing Muslims”

The United Progressive Alliance government, he goes on, “relies on appeasing Muslims and, very sadly, proselytising Christian missionaries who illegally convert low caste Hindus with lies and fear, alongside Communists who want total destruction of the Hindu faith and culture.”

Even though Hindus who are living abroad “get an eagle's view of what's happening in India, Indian Hindu residents don't see it being in the scene.”

Breivik's manifesto applauds Hindu groups who “do not tolerate the current injustice and often riot and attack Muslims when things get out of control,” but says, “this behaviour is nonetheless counterproductive.”

“Instead of attacking the Muslims, they should target the category A and B traitors in India and consolidate military cells and actively seek the overthrow of the cultural Marxist government.”

“It is essential that the European and Indian resistance movements learn from each other and cooperate as much as possible,” he concludes. “Our goals are more or less identical.”

Breivik lists the websites of the Bharatiya Janata Party, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, the National Volunteers' Organisation, the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad as resources for further information.

The manifesto pledges military support “to the nationalists in the Indian civil war and in the deportation of all Muslims from India.” This is part of a larger campaign to “overthrow of all western European multiculturalist governments” and evict “U.S. military personnel on European soil.”

India is one of several countries — including Russia, the Philippines, China and Thailand — where Breivik hopes his successors will fight.

He uses the work of historians K.S. Lal and Shrinandan Vyas to point to the threat posed by Islam to Europe, saying their work has established that millions of Hindus were killed in a genocide during 1000-1525 AD. N.S. Rajaram, another historian, is quoted as saying India's “political class have been so debilitating that they continue to live in a state of constant fear.”
Now, expect BJP to be pillored by "secular DDM" because a Norwegian loony visited their website!

sum · Post by **sum** » 26 Jul 2011 08:56

X-post:

sum wrote:Norway killer sourced crusader badge from Varanasi

An uncanny Indian connection has emerged in Friday's Oslo shooting incident, which left 76 persons dead. A self-confessed Muslim-hating fundamentalist Christian, the 32-year-old Norwegian Anders Behring Breivik, chose an Indian art firm to produce badges for his crusader organisation.

As details from his manifesto become known, it has come to light that the “badge of the Justiciar Knight” was sourced from far off Varanasi in Uttar Pradesh. The name of the firm is “Indian Art Company,” situated in one of the narrow lanes of Varanasi, home to the ancient city's traditional weavers who are struggling to eke out a living in a rapidly changing economic environment.

“Yes, I had made two samples for somebody from Norway but that was about a year ago,” Mohammad Aslam Ansari of the ‘Indian Art Company' confirmed when The Hindu spoke to him on the phone on Monday.

Slightly taken aback by a newspaper calling him from New Delhi, Mr. Ansari could not connect the badges he had made to what happened in Norway. When told about the violent massacre near Oslo, his shock and surprise was evident. “I do not even recall the name of person who had contacted me through e-mail and had asked me to send a sample of the badge,” he said in a mixture of Hindi and broken English while trying to give expression to his feelings in a jaw-dropping tone.

“The badge of the Justiciar Knight illustrates a white skull marked with the symbols of communism, Islam and Nazism on the forehead, impaled on the cross of the martyrs,” the Breivik manifesto says.
The Hindu is definitely trying very hard to get India involved in some way or the other...wonder why?

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 26 Jul 2011 10:06

^^^^ the norwegian episode is getting very very creepy. As I read more about it I say it in my head "this is not happening , this can't be happening." I have a feeling that the Hindu news stories are not real. They are planted by congress stooges attempting get Indian nationalists name maligned with the incident. Why is no western outfit reporting the same ? I would request BRFITE'S to refrain from posting such malicious PSY-OPS articles here. And add comments on the Hindu web page that the news item is fake.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 26 Jul 2011 11:51

As pointed out by Murugan in CHristian Fundamentalism, it is nothing but a smoke screen, Lets ignore and concentrate on real issues.

Neshant · Post by **Neshant** » 26 Jul 2011 13:20

One thing that struke me is the guy has a pretty in-depth knowledge of historical issues.

This isn't something he dreamt up at the spur of the moment. He must have been researching & reading for quite a whie.

He did not like the idea of Europe falling to Islam on account of traitor politicians letting in tons of muslims as a vote bank.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Jul 2011 10:17

The reality of life does not seem to have hit these guys yet!!

Norway Builds the World's Most Humane Prison

By William Lee Adams Monday, May 10, 2010

By the time the trumpets sound, the candles have been lit and the salmon platters garnished. Harald V, King of Norway, enters the room, and 200 guests stand to greet him. Then a chorus of 30 men and women, each wearing a blue police uniform, launches into a spirited rendition of "We Are the World." This isn't cabaret night at Oslo's Royal Palace. It's a gala to inaugurate Halden Fengsel, Norway's newest prison.

Ten years and 1.5 billion Norwegian kroner ($252 million) in the making, Halden is spread over 75 acres (30 hectares) of gently sloping forest in southeastern Norway. The facility boasts amenities like a sound studio, jogging trails and a freestanding two-bedroom house where inmates can host their families during overnight visits. Unlike many American prisons, the air isn't tinged with the smell of sweat and urine. Instead, the scent of orange sorbet emanates from the "kitchen laboratory" where inmates take cooking courses. "In the Norwegian prison system, there's a focus on human rights and respect," says Are Hoidal, the prison's governor. "We don't see any of this as unusual."

Halden, Norway's second largest prison, with a capacity of 252 inmates, opened on April 8. It embodies the guiding principles of the country's penal system: that repressive prisons do not work and that treating prisoners humanely boosts their chances of reintegrating into society. "When they arrive, many of them are in bad shape," Hoidal says, noting that Halden houses drug dealers, murderers and rapists, among others. "We want to build them up, give them confidence through education and work and have them leave as better people." Countries track recidivism rates differently, but even an imperfect comparison suggests the Norwegian model works. Within two years of their release, 20% of Norway's prisoners end up back in jail. In the U.K. and the U.S., the figure hovers between 50% and 60%. Of course, a low level of criminality gives Norway a massive advantage. Its prison roll lists a mere 3,300, or 69 per 100,000 people, compared with 2.3 million in the U.S., or 753 per 100,000 — the highest rate in the world.

Design plays a key role in Halden's rehabilitation efforts. "The most important thing is that the prison looks as much like the outside world as possible," says Hans Henrik Hoilund, one of the prison's architects. To avoid an institutional feel, exteriors are not concrete but made of bricks, galvanized steel and larch; the buildings seem to have grown organically from the woodlands. And while there is one obvious symbol of incarceration — a 20-ft. (6 m) concrete security wall along the prison's perimeter — trees obscure it, and its top has been rounded off, Hoilund says, "so it isn't too hostile."

The cells rival well-appointed college dorm rooms, with their flat-screen TVs and minifridges. Designers chose long vertical windows for the rooms because they let in more sunlight. There are no bars. Every 10 to 12 cells share a living room and kitchen. With their stainless-steel countertops, wraparound sofas and birch-colored coffee tables, they resemble Ikea showrooms.

Halden's greatest asset, though, may be the strong relationship between staff and inmates. Prison guards don't carry guns — that creates unnecessary intimidation and social distance — and they routinely eat meals and play sports with the inmates. "Many of the prisoners come from bad homes, so we wanted to create a sense of family," says architect Per Hojgaard Nielsen. Half the guards are women — Hoidal believes this decreases aggression — and prisoners receive questionnaires asking how their experience in prison can be improved.

There's plenty of enthusiasm for transforming lives. "None of us were forced to work here. We chose to," says Charlott-Renee Sandvik Clasen, a music teacher in the prison and a member of Halden's security-guard chorus. "Our goal is to give all the prisoners — we call them our pupils — a meaningful life inside these walls." It's warmth like that, not the expensive television sets, that will likely have the most lasting impact

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Jul 2011 10:53

they have the money and the low rate of re-imprisonment shows that it works. nothing wrong in building a googleplex like prison.

the US prison system is the worst model for anyone to emulate. they do have money but chose to make it as difficult as possible. indian prisons are poor due to lack of money, not lack of humanity.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 28 Jul 2011 15:19

^^^Why is humanity always showered on the criminals and terrorists.
Criminals get good nice place to live, eat, got entertainment.
What about the victims?
And why is human rights always means for some criminal in jail or some terrorist accused of mass murder?
What about the human rights of the victims?
Nowadays this has become a big Tamasha. Criminals get pardoned by the President of India. What about justice of the people? How can a person who got killed and his family get justice if criminals are released like this? Should they also take up weapons?
The political system of India mock the people of India each and every day, every moment.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 28 Jul 2011 16:36

post ww2 norway (with the highest per capita wealth thanks to oil money and a very generous state in terms of social care) has had (until now) very low levels of serious and/or violent crime, their prisons reflect their generally safe and liberal society - the prisons are vehicles for social reform and reconstruction, helping 'disadvantaged people who strayed from the path' - in a highly conformist society. outside the nordics this kind of tolerant environment would not exist, but for contrast note that sweden and denmark - with larger populations and a more industrialised society has a higher serious crime rate, but still way lower than the Benelux countries and definitely lower than the bigger european countries

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Jul 2011 16:41

the vast majority of people in jail are not for serious crime or voluntary terrorists of the paki kind.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 28 Jul 2011 18:36

some would argue that a harsh prison system creates more life criminals than it keeps off the streets, US being a case in point

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 30 Jul 2011 21:31

Italian intelligence agency steals sensitive info from Indian embassy

Sensitive defence information appears to have been stolen from the Indian embassy here by an Italian intelligence agency during the past two years, according to a media report.If the documents released by international hackers' group are to be believed, the Italian cyber police – National Anti-Crime Computer Centre for Critical Infrastructure Protection (CNAIPIC) - was widely hacking Indian embassy's letters with Russian defence firms, the Izvestia daily said.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 03 Aug 2011 08:46

TOIlet reporting....

India to give $2bn to fund bailouts in Europe

EU better not give any trade concessions to porkistan after this move....

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Aug 2011 10:09

jagga wrote:Italian intelligence agency steals sensitive info from Indian embassy
Sensitive defence information appears to have been stolen from the Indian embassy here by an Italian intelligence agency during the past two years, according to a media report.If the documents released by international hackers' group are to be believed, the Italian cyber police – National Anti-Crime Computer Centre for Critical Infrastructure Protection (CNAIPIC) - was widely hacking Indian embassy's letters with Russian defence firms, the Izvestia daily said.

Why bother?

Easier obtained directly from Delhi, no?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Aug 2011 10:14

Germany Tries to Forge European Brand of Islam

The deadly twin terror attacks in Norway on July 22, carried out by a fanatic who saw himself at war against the "Islamization" of the Continent, has refocused attention on Europe's decades-long reluctance to embrace its Muslim communities. There are more than 44 million Muslims living in Europe, according to a recent Pew Research Center study, about 6% of Europe's population. By 2030, that percentage will grow to 8%, the study projects.

By tutoring local mosque leaders within national university systems, European governments are increasingly trying to conform the practice of the faith with a sense of their national identities and post-Enlightenment values and traditions, or what some have taken to calling "Euro-Islam."

In the Netherlands, the Dutch government is funding university Islamic theology programs, and France has begun supporting French civics courses for Muslim religious leaders, in an effort, as the French newspaper Le Figaro put it, to transform foreign imams, or prayer leaders, into "imams á la francaise."

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 03 Aug 2011 10:51

anishns wrote:TOIlet reporting....

India to give $2bn to fund bailouts in Europe

EU better not give any trade concessions to porkistan after this move....

IMO, this was done so that the EU could fund a bailout for TSP and not the other way arround. As TSP will not accept funds directly from India. It is a way of India subsidising TSP.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Aug 2011 12:13

Italian MPs’ panel OKs burqa ban

Aug 3, 2011

ROME: An Italian parliamentary commission on Tuesday approved a draft law banning women from wearing veils that cover their faces in public.

The draft passed by the constitutional affairs commission would prohibit women from wearing a burqa, naqib or any other garb that covers the face in such circumstances.

Italy is the latest European country to act against the burqa. France and Belgium have banned the wearing of burqa in public.

The law was sponsored by Souad Sbai, a Moroccan-born member of premier Silvio Berlusconi's conservative Freedom People Party.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 14 Aug 2011 23:40

Luxury prison of Brievik

Brievik returns to crime island

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 14 Aug 2011 23:45

anishns wrote:TOIlet reporting....

India to give $2bn to fund bailouts in Europe

EU better not give any trade concessions to porkistan after this move....

This is more symbolic and is probably part of the FTA negotiations.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 15 Aug 2011 02:25

IndraD wrote:
Luxury prison of Brievik

Contrast that with the state prison system in California.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... otogallery
Gautam

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 15 Aug 2011 03:07

^^ Whoaaaa California prison is over crowded like ours

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 16 Aug 2011 06:42

Unless these buggers are willing to address India"s legitimate concerns, this is the way to go.

To get Kim Davy extradited, Delhi puts Denmark ties in deep freeze

Tue Aug 16 2011, New Delhi:

Save for diplomatic presence, India has decided to shun all relations with Denmark to put pressure on Copenhagen to pursue the extradition of Purulia armsdrop mastermind Kim Davy.

Sources said a decision has been taken to “stall” economic activities with Copenhagen and even decline meeting its officials following an advisory from Secretary (West) Vivek Katju in the Ministry of External Affairs.

While the Home Ministry has sent a circular to all sections to collate “pending references with Denmark”, the Finance Ministry has issued a communiqué on “MEA’s instructions relating to Danish projects” with the directive that all agreements and projects with that country be conducted only after “prior consultations with the MEA”.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 Aug 2011 09:36

chetak wrote:Unless these buggers are willing to address India"s legitimate concerns, this is the way to go.

To get Kim Davy extradited, Delhi puts Denmark ties in deep freeze

May be for a banana republic, but not for an aspiring super-power!

India should tell the Danes, either they turn over the guy, or India is going to put out head money for this guy, and if that doesn't work, then we will increase it ten times and make it a supari! And Denmark would have to take the responsibility for that! Or we would just pick up some Danish ship with some Danish crew in the Indian Ocean, accuse them of smuggling drugs, and throw them in a rat-infested prison, and let them go free only if they trade this guy for them! If they still don't relent, then we go and hunt for more Danish 'drug-smuggling' ships, which may be sunk in an encounter!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 16 Aug 2011 09:53

RajeshA wrote:
chetak wrote:Unless these buggers are willing to address India"s legitimate concerns, this is the way to go.

To get Kim Davy extradited, Delhi puts Denmark ties in deep freeze
May be for a banana republic, but not for an aspiring super-power!

India should tell the Danes, either they turn over the guy, or India is going to put out head money for this guy, and if that doesn't work, then we will increase it ten times and make it a supari! And Denmark would have to take the responsibility for that! Or we would just pick up some Danish ship with some Danish crew in the Indian Ocean, accuse them of smuggling drugs, and throw them in a rat-infested prison, and let them go free only if they trade this guy for them! If they still don't relent, then we go and hunt for more Danish 'drug-smuggling' ships, which may be sunk in an encounter!

Not yanking your chain but that does seem a very paki like approach onlee.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 Aug 2011 10:31

chetak wrote:
chetak wrote:Unless these buggers are willing to address India"s legitimate concerns, this is the way to go.

To get Kim Davy extradited, Delhi puts Denmark ties in deep freeze
RajeshA wrote: May be for a banana republic, but not for an aspiring super-power!

India should tell the Danes, either they turn over the guy, or India is going to put out head money for this guy, and if that doesn't work, then we will increase it ten times and make it a supari! And Denmark would have to take the responsibility for that! Or we would just pick up some Danish ship with some Danish crew in the Indian Ocean, accuse them of smuggling drugs, and throw them in a rat-infested prison, and let them go free only if they trade this guy for them! If they still don't relent, then we go and hunt for more Danish 'drug-smuggling' ships, which may be sunk in an encounter!
Not yanking your chain but that does seem a very paki like approach onlee.

This is just a muscular form of negotiating. If one calls that 'paki', then I guess at some level, all superpowers act like Pakis, the only difference being they are better players at 'pakiness' and are one hell lot more smoother and suave in it.

It is only when two-bit players like Pakistan play this game, and that too so coarsely, that they become targets of disgust and contempt.

If one wants to bring justice to some individual within the country, then of course one should act according to law, which includes the use of violence, if necessary, but if one wants to bring justice to some individual who is abroad and is being protected by some power, and the international system of law seems inadequate, then this is the only way - you have to put pressure on the foreign power! You may have to adopt a muscular approach. If one tries to talk sweet on issues of justice and give concessions to foreign powers, then it would only encourage them to use the same tactic with you in the future. In fact, other powers too would use such a tactic with you.

We stand apart from Pakistan's Pakiness, just by being a bigger power and using a more diplomatic rhetoric and nuanced approach!

But we should learn how to be able to put pressure on foreign powers! There is no reason to be apologetic about it.

Only if we view ourselves as being in the same league as the Pakistanis would we look upon such actions as being worthy of disgust and contempt!

If India plays these games,

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 16 Aug 2011 10:50

RajeshA wrote:
chetak wrote:Unless these buggers are willing to address India"s legitimate concerns, this is the way to go.

To get Kim Davy extradited, Delhi puts Denmark ties in deep freeze
May be for a banana republic, but not for an aspiring super-power!

India should tell the Danes, either they turn over the guy, or India is going to put out head money for this guy, and if that doesn't work, then we will increase it ten times and make it a supari! And Denmark would have to take the responsibility for that! Or we would just pick up some Danish ship with some Danish crew in the Indian Ocean, accuse them of smuggling drugs, and throw them in a rat-infested prison, and let them go free only if they trade this guy for them! If they still don't relent, then we go and hunt for more Danish 'drug-smuggling' ships, which may be sunk in an encounter!

Are you serious ?, that seems more like an approach to handle pigs like TSP rather than a nation far far away, not to mention the negative implications such as impact on India-EU relations, also the fact that we'll have to prove smuggling accusations against the Danes and failure to do so would bring embarrassment to us as a nation, it'll surely throw the India-EU FTA in the water and after all this there is absolutely no guarantee of us getting Kim Davy.

OTOH if you were sarcastic then my rant was in vain.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 16 Aug 2011 12:07

IMO, the part about announcing a monetary reward for the capture of this individual is right on. After all, even Osama Bin Laden was betrayed in order to collect the reward money.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 16 Aug 2011 12:14

Nihat wrote:
chetak wrote:Unless these buggers are willing to address India"s legitimate concerns, this is the way to go.

To get Kim Davy extradited, Delhi puts Denmark ties in deep freeze
RajeshA wrote: May be for a banana republic, but not for an aspiring super-power!

India should tell the Danes, either they turn over the guy, or India is going to put out head money for this guy, and if that doesn't work, then we will increase it ten times and make it a supari! And Denmark would have to take the responsibility for that! Or we would just pick up some Danish ship with some Danish crew in the Indian Ocean, accuse them of smuggling drugs, and throw them in a rat-infested prison, and let them go free only if they trade this guy for them! If they still don't relent, then we go and hunt for more Danish 'drug-smuggling' ships, which may be sunk in an encounter!
Are you serious ?, OTOH if you were sarcastic then my rant was in vain.

No, I am serious!

that seems more like an approach to handle pigs like TSP rather than a nation far far away, not to mention the negative implications such as impact on India-EU relations, also the fact that we'll have to prove smuggling accusations against the Danes and failure to do so would bring embarrassment to us as a nation, it'll surely throw the India-EU FTA in the water and after all this there is absolutely no guarantee of us getting Kim Davy.

As I said, you don't go for the most drastic measures right at the outset. You tighten the screws, one turn at a time!

But the fact is, that weapons drop would have caused many deaths in India, and we are letting the culprits go. I am aware that the Latvians/Russians and the Brit were also released, and I hope these countries made some considerable prostrating and concessions for that, but in case of Kim Davy, he is considered the mastermind, and he needs to be brought to justice.

If Danish justice does not deems it necessary to give Indian justice, then India should also reciprocate and deny Danes justice!

And yes, there would be some repercussions. Some small EU countries may protest! So what? We can take it! It is a question of India sending the message - you do wrong to India and Indians, you pay!

Nihat ji,
you can of course suggest your own ways of dealing with the case! The main thing is to bring Kim Davy to book!