Indian Interests

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 Jul 2011 04:12

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The Rani of Jhansi
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packa ... 10,00.html

Born into a well-established, noble family in 19th century western India, the woman who was to become the Rani (or "Queen") of Jhansi happened to already be skilled in the warrior arts at an early age. Ill-luck struck soon after marrying the Raja of the principality of Jhansi — their son died, quickly followed by her husband. Then, in 1853, citing a lack of heirs, the British East India Company annexed the territory as its own. But four years later, Jhansi became swept up in a widespread, bloody rebellion against East India Company rule. The Rani, also known as Lakshmibai, eventually joined in, and won a few stunning battles. She perished, according to lore, while fighting the British on horseback in full armored splendor. She was only 22. Her legend lives on in statues and Indian school books to this day.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 24 Jul 2011 06:35

Prem ji,

Rather than focusing on clothes, the campaign is questioning gender stereotypes embedded in ancient Hindu religious epics, Bollywood movies and sexist matrimonial classified ads.

All else is fine! But what are the "gender stereotypes" embedded in ancient "Hindu religious epics"? Only Sita? But who still ultimately refuses to return to her husband - seeking refuge in her "origins"! What about Surpanakha who exercises her right to be the aggressive party in espousal and still has her revenge on her ill-treatment?

What about Draupadi successfully managing five husbands? The widow Ulupi selecting Arjuna as mate and husband? Chitrangada taking up arms and fighting on battlefields and freely choosing her mate? Draupadi acting not just as the partner and bed-fellow but as comrade-in-arms of her husbands? the "assault" on a woman in public was not supported in the epic - condemned - and the "moral" epic revolves around that condemnation.

Moreover the "ancient Hindu" should not be burdened with the prudery that came with Islam and Victorian Christianity. They reveled in the beauty of the female form, and did not have a huge issue with exposed erogenous zones. The ladies should just read the "missionary" condemnation [both islamic and Christian] of the "exposed" Indian women and their "lascivious" "deportment" in public and before "men".

I have recently quoted from Nishani Hyduri to show instances of how Islamists noted and condemned the rather free dressing style, "exposure" and behaviour of southern Hindu women [significant - as Muslims progress through their armies across India, each time they note this same thing and afterwards in those areas we see much greater "purdah" continuing till -today] - and Haidar took steps to enforce more covered "styles" and enslaved women who deviated from those norms.

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 25 Jul 2011 00:58

I hope this thread still is to discuss issues of national interest, without a focused thread?

Big chinks in our security armour

Ten years later, many lacunae remain in the management of national security. The lack of inter-ministerial and inter-departmental coordination on issues like border management and Centre-state disagreements over the handling of internal security are particularly alarming. In order to review the progress of the implementation of the proposals approved by the CCS in 2001, the government has now appointed a Task Force on National Securitywhich has been given six months to submit its report.

It must review the performance of the National Security Council (NSC), which is responsible for long-term threat assessment and the formulation of comprehensive perspective plans designed to upgrade the capabilities of the security forces to meet future threats and challenges. The NSC, comprising all the members of the CCS and the National Security Adviser (NSA), rarely meets. It has been unable to find the time to deliberate upon critically important national security issues and long-term planning is being neglected. The task force must also consider whether the NSA should continue to remain only an adviser or he should be given limited executive functions, particularly for counter-terrorism operations, including covert cross-border operations, and intelligence coordination and assessment. Cyber security and offensive cyberwar operations also require apex-level policy guidance and oversight.

The integration of the armed forces HQ with the MoD continues to remain cosmetic and needs to be revisited. An issue that needs no further debate is the appointment of a Chief of Defence Staff as the principal military adviser to the government. It is an idea whose time has come. However, the appointment of a CDS should be followed by the establishment of tri-Service integrated theatre commands for greater synergy in the planning and execution of military operations and aid to civil authority. Another key requirement is for the immediate raising of an integrated cyber, aerospace and special forces command.

The task force must also consider whether it is necessary to appoint a National Security Commission to oversee the day-to-day management of national security in this era of strategic uncertainty and threats.

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 25 Jul 2011 01:40

An old debate is resurfacing, interestingly as old as Mountbattent's advice to Nehru.
Jawaharlal Nehru and the Chief of Defence Staff - General VP Malik and Anit Mukherjee

The letter in question written on September 27 1977 to Lt. Gen. M.L. Chibber, who was then Director Military Operations, mainly dealt with the subject of the CDS (the letter is reproduced in full at the end of this brief). There are two major themes that emerge from the letter. First, that the appointment of the CDS in the early years after independence was not feasible as the Air Force and the Navy had officers with relatively junior years in service. More importantly, while Prime Minister Nehru agreed to the principle of this post, he thought that it would be difficult to implement due to possible opposition from Indian politicians. Nehru argued that a CDS would perpetuate the tradition of the post of the British Commander-in-Chief, an idea disliked by generations of freedom fighters. It is not clear from the letter, however, whether Nehru was afraid that it might lead to praetorian tendencies within the military or even authoritarianism within the political class. While expressing his opposition, Nehru also agreed to reconsider this issue over time. The second theme that emerges is Mountbatten’s recollection of Nehru’s views just before the outbreak of the 1962 China war. According to Mountbatten, this time Nehru was “no longer opposed to the idea of the CDS.” But he expressed his inability to appoint General Thimayya as the CDS, which was suggested by Mountbatten, due to opposition from then Defence Minister Krishna Menon. The mutual dislike between Thimayya and Krishna Menon was no secret.

But Nehru’s apparent inability to overrule his Defence Minister comes as a surprise. Of course, another interpretation of this could be that Nehru was not really convinced about the CDS post and used Krishna Menon’s alleged opposition as an excuse. The rest of the letter touches on familiar themes—Krishna Menon’s contempt for “intelligent independent senior officers,” and preference for political appointments, Nehru’s apparent anathema towards war and unwillingness to accept that possibility.

Before accepting the contents of this letter as gospel, it is important to note that there might be an element of post-facto justification to it. In other words, Mountbatten may have deliberately or inadvertently played up his exchanges with Nehru and his own, almost prophetic role, in anticipating events. The only way we can know more about this period is if the government allows access to the complete Nehru papers and follows a more rational, and mature, declassification policy.

Be that as it may, this letter can and should inform the current debate about the need for a CDS position. Expressing his views, and according to him the views of the Indian Air Force on this matter, Air Chief Marshal Naik makes three points.3 First, that the Air Force is not opposed to the appointment of the CDS but “does not want a CDS in its present form.” In that case, the Air Chief needs to clarify as to what form of a CDS does he visualise? It is not enough to oppose without offering an alternative. His second point was a somewhat rhetorical question: “what role model of CDS do we want?” Again, this is a question on which the Air Chief must take a first cut at answering. It is inconceivable that over the last 10 years the Indian Air Force has not studied, evaluated and ultimately thought of a model of the CDS that is acceptable to it. The final substantive point was his assertion that we “don’t need a CDS for the next 5-10 years” without any clarity about this duration. In other words, what would have to change during this time that would warrant the appointment of a CDS? These observations are definitely not meant as a criticism of the Air Chief or the Indian Air Force, but it is important to engage in a substantive and rational debate on an issue of great importance. To his credit, in the seminar on national security reforms, the Air Chief had urged for more debate among the intelligentsia for the higher defence organisation that is now required in India. We should live up to his vision.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 25 Jul 2011 11:22

Govt plans shy of Muslim tag

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 26 Jul 2011 21:07

http://scienceblog.com/46622/minority-r ... -of-ideas/

Minority Rules: Scientists Discover Tipping Point for the Spread of Ideas

Scientists at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute have found that when just 10 percent of the population holds an unshakable belief, their belief will always be adopted by the majority of the society.

Not that far now for BRF you think?

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 26 Jul 2011 22:31

"determined minorities carry the day before vacillating majorities" -told you so

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Jul 2011 22:33

brihaspati wrote:"determined minorities carry the day before vacillating majorities" -told you so

Let the nationalistics be this 10Plus % Minority in India.

sanjeevpunj · Post by **sanjeevpunj** » 26 Jul 2011 22:56

Prem wrote:Let the nationalistic be this 10Plus % Minority in India.

+1

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 26 Jul 2011 23:50

abhishek_sharma wrote:Govt plans shy of Muslim tag

Adding some data

NEW DELHI: The Centre is reluctant to overtly name Muslims as beneficiaries of targeted welfare schemes even as it plans firm steps to widen the spread of a flagship scheme by relaxing the eligibility criteria for minority-dominated districts.

The naming of Muslims in place of a diffused name like minority as beneficiaries of welfare schemes is at the heart of the debate triggered by a study by Harsh Mander. The member of Sonia Gandhi-chaired National Advisory Council did a study where it blamed the government of being diffident in naming Muslims for its fear of BJP campaign of minority appeasement.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 27 Jul 2011 03:19

vastanvi sacked.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/editori ... 296550.ece

Ghulam Mohammad Vastanvi was the outsider who beat the odds to win the post of Vice-Chancellor of the world-renowned Darul Uloom Deoband. But clearly the reformist cleric with an MBA degree had pushed his luck too far. On Sunday, the Islamic seminary's Majlis-e-Shoora (managing committee) sacked the rector without even the fig leaf of due process. The Mohtamim was ousted by a pre-determined script whose first lines were written even before the ink could dry on his appointment. The genesis of Mr. Vastanvi's troubles can be traced back to his election, which he won by defeating Arshad Madani, a member of the Madani clan whose influence over Deoband is part of folklore. The Madanis — Arshad and Mahmood — head a faction each of the politically decisive Jamiat-Ulama-e-Hind. The Jamiat's vision and outlook can be judged from its recent diktat to Muslims against watching television, issued as part of a campaign to instil “Islamic values and rules.” In the event, Mr. Vastanvi, unschooled in the art of public relations, was trapped easily: Asked to comment on the welfare of Muslims in Gujarat, the cleric, himself from Gujarat, made the impolitic remark that they ought to move on.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 27 Jul 2011 04:38

^^^^Good! He does not belong there. Testing for some time that he is not part of a deliberate charade to fool the "nationalists", he should be enticed "in". But cheers Deobandis!! Cheers! Would be mighty frustrated if you really kept him on! Even if it is taqyia, you could have benefited by keeping him in. But of course, the pressure from the external control centres were too great. We understand. Thanks again!

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 27 Jul 2011 08:22

Is Asia Becoming a Militarized Region? – Implications for Regional Security - Shyam Saran

In my presentation today I will be focusing mainly on the region of Asia-Pacific, including North-East Asia, South-East Asia and my own South Asian region. I will try and assess whether this region which is currently the most dynamic and rapidly growing component of the global economy, is also witnessing a parallel and competitive arms build-up. There will be an effort to examine the drivers of this build up and its likely impact on the Asian power balance. Since this region is also home to several nuclear weapon states, it may be worthwhile to explore the nuclear dimension of Asian security. And finally, I will explain the Indian perspective, particularly the espousal of an “open inclusive, transparent and balanced” security architecture in the region, to avoid a mutually counter-productive and competitive military build up which is not in the interest of any of the stakeholders.

There is no doubt that Asia is home to some of the biggest defense spenders in the world. China, with a current estimated military expenditure of US $ 91b (2011), Japan with US $ 51b, India with US $ 36b, RoK with $ 24b and Australia, with US $ 30 b are the region’s military heavy weights. What is more, there is ongoing upgradation of the military assets of all these countries. Examining publicly available information, one may point to the following significant improvement in the force structures of some major countries:

Concluding Remarks:
Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, the countries of Asia- Pacific have every reason to be proud about the successes they have
achieved in sustaining rapid economic growth, raising the living standards of our people and becoming a dynamic centre of global manufacturing and trade. It is also to the credit of our countries that despite several lingering territorial disputes, ideological differences and differing perspectives, tensions have been contained, armed conflicts have been minimal and, by and large, an environment conducive to economic development has been maintained. However, rising prosperity and rapid transition bring new challenges in their wake. The world we live in is full of uncertainty and ferment. The reflexive reaction to this may lead to a competitive build up of military capabilities, heightening and exacerbating the several unresolved issues that our region is beset with. Our collective ability to maintain an environment conducive to continued economic and social development will require that we delve deep into Asia’s wisdom, its tradition of consultation and consensus building and capacity to adapt to changing situations, to construct a regional political and security architecture that reflects the region’s enhanced role and stature in the emerging world order.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 27 Jul 2011 23:29

In the big-power game, actions count louder than words, says N.V.Subramanian.

27 July 2011

If a major power is defined as one whereof political will matches economic and military might, India has a long way to go. Which is why it borders on the funny and perhaps insane when India's military chiefs and defence scientists make threatening noises against neighbours whilst the political leadership prefers silence to action.
...
India has no political will for aggression, foreign intervention and power-projection. The Indian military wanted to open a second front during the Kargil War. It would have meant attacking Pakistani Punjab. The civilian government would not hear of it. There would be no breaching of borders and no crossing of the LoC.

The IPKF operation in Sri Lanka was the last attempt at power projection. After its failure, the Indian political system has no stomach for power projection. The navy's anti-piracy operations are a very controlled -- and sensitive -- affair.

And whatever the blandishments, Indian troops won't deploy outside India, unless it is under the UN flag. Perish the thought that the Indian army will set foot in Afghanistan once the US withdraws or campaign in other Western-instigated hotspots.
...
By quietly blowing up a weather satellite, China advertised its audacious readiness to prosecute space wars. Osama Bin Laden's assassination in the heart of Pakistan reminded America's enemies never to underestimate it or doubt its resolve. And in the pursuit of power, Russia has been ruthless.
...
the bottomline is that India is not following the mantra to become a major power. It is never too late to begin.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 27 Jul 2011 23:51

Fight India’s secular British Liberals & strengthen the Northwestern Frontier - I

India’s northwest frontier will remain a security threat for years, if not decades, to come. Any effort from any quarter to slacken up on that area’s security instead of further strengthening it, at the behest of India’s secular and internationalist crowd who are still under the spell of their former British Liberal masters, will inevitably lead to a war and the eventual dismemberment of Kashmir from the Republic. In effect, the British Empire’s objective, carried out partially by Louis and Edwina Mountbatten when they seduced Nehru and his ilk into the breaking up of Kashmir, will be fully attained if New Delhi continues its mumbling and deliberately refrains from doing what needs to be done.

What has happened in the Kashmir Valley since the early 1990s is not a matter of conjecture. The Muslims of Kashmir - controlled by the British imperialists working through a gaggle of Mirpuris based in London, Birmingham, Bedford, Dewsbury and elsewhere in the UK and through Pakistan’s zamindar, the Pakistan military - have become virulently anti-India across the board. All these anti-India operatives are facilitated by a number of terrorist groups, such as Hizbul Mujahideen Islami (HuJI), Harkatul Mujahideen (HuM) and a horde of others unleashed from Pakistan and funded by Saudi Arabia, drumming out the British mantra that Kashmir will be separated from India. What these terrorists provide is the killing power to weaken the will of the population.

The British are not altogether off their rocker. The kind of leadership that has existed in New Delhi for decades, and the support the British have garnered from Indians who advocate “secularism” and some such mumbo-jumbo religion, has weakened India’s northwest frontier. If the trend is allowed to continue, it will only be a matter of time until things get out of control. At that point, the “peace-loving secularists” will openly advocate separation of Kashmir from India. That is the British plan; it would satisfy not only the zamindars of Pakistan, but also the Kashmiri Muslims who have guided the situation on this dangerous path.

http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisp ... px?id=1894

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 28 Jul 2011 05:08

K Subrahmanyam on CDS vs CJCS

In an interview published in the May 2008 issue of Pragati he said:

Modernisation is a complex process. I have said in the Kargil committee report that we have not modernised decision-making process ever since Lord Ismay prescribed it in 1947. Our military command and control have not changed since the second world war. While we are talking about buying modern equipment, the force structure and philosophy go back to the Rommel’s desert campaign and Mountbatten’s South-east Asia Command. Nobody has done anything about it.
Now there is talk about the Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) model. It pains me to hear this. The British adopted the CDS system, as they would never fight a war on their own. CDS is not an institution for us. Ours should be the Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs and theatre commands below him

In response to an op-ed Sushant & I wrote, where we used the term ‘CDS’, he wrote back (in an email):

The term CDS is an inappropriate one in the Indian context. It is British terminology. CDS in Britain commands all three (Service) forces. This is what made the Indian politicians resist the concept of CDS.

What is called for is a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who will be the primary and senior-most military adviser to the Prime Minister and Defence Minister but without command over any troops. Therefore the reform of Chiefs of staff shedding their command should precede the emergence of CJCS. While this will not be possible to carry out in respect of the Airforce immediately this should be planned for in the longer run.

India should plan for a sixty squadron (air force) in the next 20 years but making theatre commanders fully responsible for operations and making the COAS and CNS wholly Chiefs of staff without command (over) forces can straight away be done. [Email dated 19.11.2008]

sanjeevpunj · Post by **sanjeevpunj** » 28 Jul 2011 05:33

The interests of Hindus who form 85% of India, should never be ignored or it spells disaster for any government, irrespective of which party is in power.This was proved by the ouster of BJP which did very little for the poor in India, earlier on; and will be proved again by the ouster of Congress from the centre, if it does nothing to protect the interests of the majority.The saving factor in India is that majority still continue to act democratically when it comes to changing governments.We seem to have the infinite patience for bringing change, despite all odds.There will be light at the end of the tunnel someday.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jul 2011 06:30

Sanku wrote:http://scienceblog.com/46622/minority-r ... -of-ideas/

Minority Rules: Scientists Discover Tipping Point for the Spread of Ideas

Scientists at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute have found that when just 10 percent of the population holds an unshakable belief, their belief will always be adopted by the majority of the society.
Not that far now for BRF you think?

In 2004 I told my son that at 15- 17% Muslims start demanding shariat and other exclusive acts. He said that in a class with a former
official who said very interesting and will look into it. Looks like a project was started.

Will have him forward her the rpi study.

In 2003 rudradev and another poster looked at herd instincts and quoted about 17-19 % for change in herd behavior.
Looks like human mind cuts the numbers by half from animals.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 28 Jul 2011 06:35

What I am really scared is when people of desh is aroused of all the corruptions, and taken to streets, and cause a revolution... things would not be the same.. but the gullible virus has to be removed first.

robert vadra et al becoming billionaire sounds like the virus has made a kingdom in India. Anti virus would be like the old movie Final Justice.

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BTW, coming on the squadrons, what is the actual measure to say, we need this many squadrons? what the x, y, and z s in this equation?

If it is security and assets are the primary concern, then we might need 200 squadrons, and with various kinds and categories spanning endo, exo up to space.

If threat perception is a big concern, then we have to actually double up squadrons even further.

I think we have a number percent based on GDP, threats, security, and population to protect into concern to take these numbers. May be, i am comparing with advanced nations, and seeing we are inadequate.. the same feeling I get, when I see our road infrastructures, town planning, utilities and facilities... we have scale it down so small and tiny, for the requirement that is so large and larger than actually maasan needs.

But, the game in right sizing is always won only after we have passed the security risk period.. then we analyze, had it been this or that, 2611 would not happened. BTW, why is there a need to 60 squadron? there is nothing happened to that need? all these strategic values can't be on fire fighting mode, and a reactionary plan, rather a well laid out plan.

If we don't change ourselves keeping the best nation on the planet to compare, then our neighbors will take over us.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 28 Jul 2011 11:30

http://vimeo.com/26506961

Session Five from the Multiversity International Conference on Decolonising Our Universities held in Penang, Malaysia, 27-29 June 2011 under the auspices of Universiti Sains Malaysia and Citizens International. The conference brought together scholars, activists, students and journalists from Asia, Africa, the Mideast and elsewhere to address the problem of Eurocentrism in the universities of the Global South and to explore alternatives and paths of resistance.

Chaired by Zainon Ahmad, Consulting Editor of The Sun newspaper in Malaysia, this opening session on the second day of the conference features three presentations on the theme of decolonizing math, science and law. The main speakers include:

C. K. Raju, Visiting Professor in the School of Mathematics at University Sains Malaysia, laying out a framework for 'Decolonising Math and Science Education.'

"Decolonising math and science education") is now online at

http://ckraju.net/press/2011/New-Sunday-Times-pH2.gif report and
http://ckraju.net/press/2011/New-Sunday-Times-pH1.gif (cover: making math easy)

The text version is at

http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/ISSU ... m/Article/

The printed version of the earlier 17 July report is also now also online

http://ckraju.net/press/2011/NST-17-July-2011-pH1.gif (cover: Re-imagining universities)
http://ckraju.net/press/2011/NST-17-July-2011-pH2.gif (Escaping from the clutches of colonisation)
http://ckraju.net/press/2011/NST-17-July-2011-pH3.gif (contd)

The text version is at
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/ISSU ... n/Article/

The two key earlier reports in the Sun by Zainon Ahmad (1 July and 12 July) are at

http://ckraju.net/press/2011/the-Sun-1- ... rticle.gif

(text link: http://www.thesundaily.my/news/65758)

and

http://ckraju.net/press/2011/the-Sun-12 ... Zainon.gif

(text link: http://www.thesundaily.my/news/75912)

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 28 Jul 2011 11:33

A Fai-style crackdown on the Sangh Parivar

Another puerile column from MKB - that makes clear both where his sympathies lie as well as the quality of his 'analysis'....Only reason for posting this is so folks can appreciate his writings on Af-Pak for the juvenile junk that they are in reality !

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 Jul 2011 16:10

^Arjun,

Please read above article from MKB one more time. I don't think he is advising any such thing. Infect he is bringing it to public notice that some 'muslim' organizations in US (at whose behest one wonders, the Fai colleages in WKK breigade?) approached FBI and govt to investigate hindutva groups and bar them from using temples in US to organize and collect funds.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 28 Jul 2011 16:42

Here's an excerpt:

Can the FBI, which finally booked Fai, refuse to take cognisance of the alleged activities of the Hindu organisations? The blood trail of the terrorist Brevik seems to be leading to some obscure corners of the US’s regional policies in South Asia

He seems to be hoping for this to occur more than just passing on the information..Why would any journalist of repute even take any notice of Breivik and Hindutva connection - only the totally loony can think that any kind of valid case can be made out of it.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 29 Jul 2011 02:08

SaiK wrote:What I am really scared is when people of desh is aroused of all the corruptions, and taken to streets, and cause a revolution... things would not be the same.. but the gullible virus has to be removed first.

robert vadra et al becoming billionaire sounds like the virus has made a kingdom in India. Anti virus would be like the old movie Final Justice.

Now the VIP members list at TTD somewhat begins to make sense.

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 29 Jul 2011 19:53

ShauryaT wrote:An old debate is resurfacing, interestingly as old as Mountbattent's advice to Nehru.
Jawaharlal Nehru and the Chief of Defence Staff - General VP Malik and Anit Mukherjee

The letter in question written on September 27 1977 to Lt. Gen. M.L. Chibber, who was then Director Military Operations, mainly dealt with the subject of the CDS (the letter is reproduced in full at the end of this brief). There are two major themes that emerge from the letter. First, that the appointment of the CDS in the early years after independence was not feasible as the Air Force and the Navy had officers with relatively junior years in service. More importantly, while Prime Minister Nehru agreed to the principle of this post, he thought that it would be difficult to implement due to possible opposition from Indian politicians. Nehru argued that a CDS would perpetuate the tradition of the post of the British Commander-in-Chief, an idea disliked by generations of freedom fighters. It is not clear from the letter, however, whether Nehru was afraid that it might lead to praetorian tendencies within the military or even authoritarianism within the political class. While expressing his opposition, Nehru also agreed to reconsider this issue over time. The second theme that emerges is Mountbatten’s recollection of Nehru’s views just before the outbreak of the 1962 China war. According to Mountbatten, this time Nehru was “no longer opposed to the idea of the CDS.” But he expressed his inability to appoint General Thimayya as the CDS, which was suggested by Mountbatten, due to opposition from then Defence Minister Krishna Menon. The mutual dislike between Thimayya and Krishna Menon was no secret.

But Nehru’s apparent inability to overrule his Defence Minister comes as a surprise. Of course, another interpretation of this could be that Nehru was not really convinced about the CDS post and used Krishna Menon’s alleged opposition as an excuse. The rest of the letter touches on familiar themes—Krishna Menon’s contempt for “intelligent independent senior officers,” and preference for political appointments, Nehru’s apparent anathema towards war and unwillingness to accept that possibility.

Before accepting the contents of this letter as gospel, it is important to note that there might be an element of post-facto justification to it. In other words, Mountbatten may have deliberately or inadvertently played up his exchanges with Nehru and his own, almost prophetic role, in anticipating events. The only way we can know more about this period is if the government allows access to the complete Nehru papers and follows a more rational, and mature, declassification policy.

ShauryaT wrote:K Subrahmanyam on CDS vs CJCS
In an interview published in the May 2008 issue of Pragati he said:

In response to an op-ed Sushant & I wrote, where we used the term ‘CDS’, he wrote back (in an email):

The term CDS is an inappropriate one in the Indian context. It is British terminology. CDS in Britain commands all three (Service) forces. This is what made the Indian politicians resist the concept of CDS.

Whatever might be the structure, CDS or CJCS, answer should have to come from the Military. Why Politicians took unnecessary trouble in deciding which structure is suitable for the Military. Are they so adept in Military matters? AS they say, the devil is in the details.

Why Nehru himself and through Krishna Menon later opposed the CDS format? Is it not the entire Indian Army structure is based on British systems or procedures? The answer is CDS gives ultimate power of control over entire Armed forces of this country. If there is CDS, government can't play one Service against the other as they do often. Nehru always hated Army, feared Armed forces of assuming such powers. Its been legacy of Congress under Nehru dynasty to keep Armed forces always divided and controlled through whichever tactics possible. Becoz this is the only institution which can challenge the wrongdoings of the Government. Hard to believe? Why Nehru and then congress government went to such length to discredit INA and Subhas Chandra Bose? Becoz they are nationalist and revolutionist. So much for Nehru and his legacy. Let the letters between and Nehru and his girl friend, Mountbatten's wife, be made public, we would be knowing how good Nehru is. Sad, there is no Wiki leaks at that time.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 31 Jul 2011 09:11

How much of Indian interest does ToIlet serves?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 426112.cms

sometime back it was all about Israelies given a chance to destroy paki facilities and sites, aided by refueling stops at mumbai. now, why not that part of the story as well?

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 31 Jul 2011 10:46

>>.Its been legacy of Congress under Nehru dynasty to keep Armed forces always divided and controlled through whichever tactics possible.

The situation was worse under BJP, not because of the BJP, but because of George Fernandes. That short sighted politician did so much to undermine the authority of the armed forces.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 01 Aug 2011 13:10

Our make-believe reformist

By Zia Haq

The interesting excerpt quoted below.

Islam and modernism, as philosophical systems, are incompatible, but nevertheless reconcilable within the framework of political liberalism. But If Vastanvi knew what modernism is, he would not touch it with a barge pole.

Vastanvi was being diplomatic when he was making those supposed remarks on Modi. Be that as it may, a diplomatic mullah is better than a blunt one. But to call him a modernist is committing blasphemy! Amen.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Aug 2011 21:27

Even with a CDS, its the President of Inda that is the Commander-in- Chief (CIC). So those who object to CDS on the grounds that the CDS is the chief of all armed forces are mistaken and haven't read the Constitution of India.

The real objection is from the IAF which fears that the IA due to its size will have dominaint role. ACM PC Lal's objections are still being raised even after 1998 tests which require unity of command for deterrence.

One way out is to declare the other chiefs as Deputy CDS, along with their being the Chief of Staff of their service, by rotation.

For instance if the IA chief gets selected as CDS the other two IN and IAF chiefs also become Dy CDS while holding the service rank concurrently.

Or forget about all this and keep/retain the currnet Chiefs of Staff practice. Its good enough and diesnt ruffle any feathers until events force the departure from this step.

The civilians (IAS types) are fighting the Lord Kitchener- Lor Curzon battles still. They want to assert their control over military even when its very explicit in the Constitution.
So some big egoes are still at work.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 01 Aug 2011 22:02

perhaps, the forces are not networked enough to take the right steps on CnC. Once, the inner chinks have been sealed up and better armor is provided for, then we can look at a grand CiC.

Now, definitely the ranks are an issue. The acceptance of a divisional force chief as supreme has to go.. and all the three forces chiefs must consider they are lower in ranks to CiC... now, it is like losing power they enjoyed all these years. This would also mean, issues from budgets to actual force representations.

proper regulations can help there.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Aug 2011 13:14

Not a happy state of affairs

Matters military need urgent attention
by Inder Malhotra

FOR the first time in many years, the media was barred from the ceremony at which the outgoing chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee, Air Chief Martial P.V. Naik, handed over charge to the Naval Chief, Admiral Nirmal Verma. The stated reason was that Defence Minister A.K. Antony had expressed displeasure at the proclivity of Service Chiefs to talk out of turn publicly.

It is sad that this should have happened on the verge of ACM Naik’s retirement that has since taken place. But it is only fair to acknowledge that Mr Antony had good reason to do what he did. Ironically, the outgoing Air Chief himself had made two statements that were found unacceptable. First, at his farewell Press conference, in reply to a question he had said that Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal did not worry him because if Islamabad uses nuclear weapons, India’s retaliation would be “massive”.

On the face of it, there is nothing wrong with this statement, which reflects the ground situation. But, as the Defence Minister underscored, no Service Chief should have said so just before the arrival of the Pakistan Foreign Minister, Mrs Hinna Rabbani Khar, for talks with her Indian counterpart, Mr S.M. Krishna. What lent a sharper edge to the episode is that on the day ACM Naik addressed the Press, the Defence Minister had presided over the 12th anniversary of the Kargil war where he took care to declare that he didn’t want to say anything that might “spoil the atmosphere” for the Foreign Ministers’ talks.

Secondly, a few days earlier the outgoing Air Chief had publicly rubbished the idea of having a Chief of Defence Staff. To this a great many people concerned about national security had legitimately taken exception. A Service Chief is within his rights to argue his case on any issue in the inner councils of the government, not in public. The retired Air Chief is not alone in crossing the Lakshman rekha. The Chief of the Army Staff, General V.K. Singh, also erred when, after the elimination of Osama bin Laden by the American Special Forces at the Pakistani garrison town of Abbottabad under the nose of the Pakistan Army and its Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), he declared that India had the capacity to do what the Americans had done but Indian policy was not to undertake such operations. This became an inducement to several others — including, surprisingly, the head of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), Mr V.K. Sawant — to follow suit. In heaven’s name, if we have a certain capacity, let’s use it, if and when necessary. Why brag about it?

Unfortunately, the malaise is not new. It has gone on unchecked for some time. Some years ago, when the Pay Commission’s report and the government’s decisions on it had caused dissatisfaction within the armed forces, the then Navy Chief had gone public and even sent an unclassified signal to the entire naval personnel. When his action invited widespread criticism, he felt offended.

That apart, there are even more worrying elements in the situation that do not necessarily find their way into the media but of which all concerned are aware. Yet no one is doing anything about these. Without beating about the bush, let it be said that things within each of the three armed forces are not of the best, and so are in inter-Services relations. Relations between the Services and the civilians are worse. Strange though it may seem, even the unfortunate dispute over Gen. V.K. Singh’s date of birth has had ugly repercussions. Within the Army, almost across the board, there is a feeling that with the government’s rejection of the General’s claim by the Ministry of Defence (MoD), their Chief has been treated “shabbily”. The civilian decision makers feel, on the other hand, that Cadet V.K. Singh himself had given his date of birth to the National Defence Academy and on joining it. Nearly three decades later, when his appointment as the Chief was almost certain, did the dispute arise. Is there a lesson here for laying down a policy for the future?

Moreover, there are disturbing shortages of officers, equipment and even ammunition in the Services, especially the Army. It needs to double its present sanctioned strength of officers by 2025, and yet it continues to be nearly 12,000 officers short. There is yet no sign of a medium gun to replace the Bofors. And the contrast between our infrastructure at the India-China border and that of China is stark.

Overriding all these difficulties is the wider problem of reviewing the reforms in higher defence command, intelligence cooperation, coordination of border management and so on brought about 10 years ago thanks to the Kargil Review Committee, headed by the late K. Subrahmanyam. Even a cursory glance at the situation shows that there are a lot of gaps between what was attempted and what has actually
been achieved.

Luckily, there is now a competent task force to review the entire gamut of national security, internal and external. It will do the country a great and long overdue service if it takes a firm decision on the appointment of a Chief of Defence Staff and integration of the three Service headquarters and the MoD, as is the case in all mature democracies. In any case, it is inconceivable how, in this day and age, wars can be fought without inter-Service integration and theatre commands. In their absence the Integrated Defence Command is like an arch without the copingstone.

CDS was an integral part of the higher defence structure suggested by the Kargil Committee. The Group of Ministers, headed by Mr L.K. Advani, also endorsed it. Mr Atal Bihari Vajpayee, the then Prime Minister, did not reject it but deferred a decision on it. Privately, he explained that he did so because the Air Force had created “too much bad blood” — nine former Air Chiefs had gone to him to protest — and he was so advised by former President R. Vekataraman and former Prime Minister P.V. Narasimha Rao, both of whom had earlier served as Defence Minister.

When I asked how long the decision would be delayed, he replied: “Not more than a year.” That was exactly a decade ago. Isn’t it time this dithering settles the issue once and for all?

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 03 Aug 2011 15:11

The Church in India and China: 100,000,000 Christians Soon...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Aug 2011 18:44

I guess totally missed while we were strategising!!!

From Nightwatch, 2 August 2011

China-India: A Foreign Ministry spokesman told the press today, "With the guarantee of the Chinese government, China's State Oceanic Administration (SOA) submitted an application to the International Seabed Authority (ISA) in May 2010 to explore multimetal sulfides. ISA approved the application in July this year, giving SOA the right to explore mineral resources in a 10,000-km area under the international waters in southwest Indian Ocean."

According to regulations, SOA will sign a contract with ISA and during the period when the contract is valid SOA has the exclusive right to explore multimetal sulfides in the aforementioned mining area and will have priority to mine the resources in the future.

According to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, international seabed resources are common assets that humankind has inherited. China's explorations of resources under international waters are conducive to understanding and exploiting international seabed resources, improving China's deep-sea science knowledge, protecting seabed environment and serving the common interests of humankind as a whole.

Comment: The statement above hit India like an atomic bomb because Indian authorities were unaware of China's application to mine in the Indian Ocean.

India-China: The Indian Express newspaper reported on 1 August that China's application for a deep-sea mining license in the "central Indian Ocean" has been cleared by an international body, leaving the Indian Ministries of Defence and External Affairs concerned. They fear Beijing may use it as "an excuse to operate their warships in this area".

It was on 19 July that the International Seabed Authority cleared China's request for exploration and mining licenses in Southwestern Indian Ridge.

The Directorate of Naval Intelligence (DNI) has warned that this could have critical implications for India as the "Chinese would have reasons to maintain a continuous presence in the region….It would provide them an opportunity to collect oceanographic and hydrological data in a legitimate manner. Further, it would also provide an excuse to operate their warships in this area," according to the DNI.

Comment: The Indian diplomatic and intelligence services failed in this instance. China claims that it is only trying to meet a growing demand for minerals. The Indian Navy is concerned that Chinese naval ships will maintain a continuous watch of India under the guise of protecting ocean bed exploration, as China is doing in the South China Sea. The Indian government are stunned and consider this an intelligence/diplomatic failure.

China's state-run China Ocean Mineral Resources Research and Development had applied for the license in May 2010 to explore for polymetallic sulphides in the Southwest Indian Ridge. It is now required to sign a contract with the ISA, allowing it to explore up to 10,000 sq. km. over the next 15 years in line with the new rules on polymetallic sulphides adopted by the ISA last year.

China, which ratified the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention and is an ISA member, has been active in deep sea exploration since 2002 when it launched a program that included developing an active diving submersible, 'The Jiaolong', designed for a maximum depth of 7,000 meters. The Jiaolong is currently diving at a site between Hawaii and the North America mainland, where China was granted rights to explore for minerals in 2001. It will head for the Indian Ocean before long.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Aug 2011 18:58

I dont agree with Inderji. The service chiefs statements on Indian response are an assurance to Indian public which is not forthcoming from the Indian politicans and MEA personnel who are bending over backwards to appease US in their policy towards TSP. The statements also assure TSPA which runs the TSP that the Indina military is ready, able and willing to do the needful. In this manner the statements are a deterrent posture. Secondly the TSP by sending a tyro as the foreing minister showed how seriosu they are. In fact her sense of fashion matched SM Krishna's sartrorial style and his fake wigs!

Indian babus for once should stop fighting Lord Curzon's war with the military. Indina military is a national inistitiuion. Its not a foreign force.

MEA primacy in foreign affairs is rightly there but for distant neighbors and not immediate neighbors with war on their minds. By muzzling the only effective instrument, the GOI is negotiating with its hands tied.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Aug 2011 22:13

I think all these CDS articles are coming up because there is review underway by Naresh Chandra Committee.
-Committee job is to do a holistic review of entire NS issue.
-ACM P.V. Naik's remarks on CDS are a shot across the bows.
- Add Inder Malhotraji's article on AKA admonishing the service chiefs

So a debate is being played out in the media thru informed chatterati.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Aug 2011 22:32

Naresh Chandra Commitee Challenges

IDSA:

Welcome Step

Looks a major re-look is underway. But why did IDSA learn of this task force from press reports, shouldnt they have been informed as part of the process?

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 03 Aug 2011 23:19

^^ Most IDSA reports seem to be from open source material. Of course the real juice comes out in their members only conferences. Have been subscribing to their strategic review since many years now. What individual members of IDSA learn due to their contacts in government is another matter but as a matter of policy, they do not seem to have privileged access as an institutional body, funded by the government.

This is not to say they are not guided or are totally hands off. Just that there does not seem to be a process, where IDSA is informed first or at all.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 04 Aug 2011 00:45

ramana wrote:I think all these CDS articles are coming up because there is review underway by Naresh Chandra Committee.
-Committee job is to do a holistic review of entire NS issue.
-ACM P.V. Naik's remarks on CDS are a shot across the bows.
- Add Inder Malhotraji's article on AKA admonishing the service chiefs

So a debate is being played out in the media thru informed chatterati.

This is for the outside world to show that the Strategic command is alert. Mostly for TSP

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 04 Aug 2011 00:46

Rony wrote:The Church in India and China: 100,000,000 Christians Soon...

Big Danger.

http://b-i-f.com/Evangelical%20evaders.html

Feeling the heat from U.S. Government authorized inquiries back home, confidence tricksters have fixed Indians, and the burgeoning Indian economy, firmly in their crosshairs. And why not? With a staggering target of 837 million Hindus, all of whom have been indoctrinated since birth to accept God and to assist His temples and priests with charity; it's like taking candy from a baby. Are these godmen reincarnated tax evading Mafioso gun-toting gangsters of the American 30's and 40's, who have found Utopia in the guise of Indian godmen? Have they found a way to beat the RICO Laws that brought about their downfall in a previous birth? Or are they the old enemy who used shot and shell to occupy the Indian sub-continent and set up Writer's Buildings to list the loot being dispatched to foreign treasuries, and now use Indian Government legislated tax-exemption laws to do the same thing?

The onus for protection of its peoples lies unequivocally with the Indian Government, and in particular with the illustrious Finance Minister, Sriman Pranab Mukherjee. Since the Income Tax Department of India, comes under his jurisdiction, the Minister should, as is being carried out by U.S. counterparts, launch investigations into the lavish lifestyles and multi-million dollar business dealings of U.S. godmen operating in India, who have become invisible to the Indian Tax Office.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Aug 2011 01:51

Original posted by krisna....

India in Slumber: A Nation of Honi M’agel MK Dhar

I would like to share that resilience is the noun form of the verb root resile. One meaning of resile means: Move back in a roughly opposite direction after an impact. Resilience always does not mean elasticity. The media and the political pundits may please keep this in mind.
Dear Honis’ may note that reaction of Mumbaikars and other Indians is not resilience. They are not elastic rubber strips that rebound to original shape after distension. People are compelled to go out of home to earn bread, pursue studies, attend their business and swallow their anger. Anger is not an easily digestible emotion.

If the governments are ready to hear the truth about people’s anger, they may learn about three strains of burning hell-fire in people’s mind: a. accumulation of hatred against a religious minority community; b. lack of confidence in government for failing to restrain the rogue nation of Pakistan; c. anger against systemic failure of the intelligence security machineries and other tools of governance. According to them ‘lack of resilience’ may mean large scale communal carnage and lack of confidence in the present political and governance systems. If rational deductions are drawn from this, it may lead to escalation of ‘Hindu terrorism’, as witnessed in certain incidents. That also may lead to the embedded seed of wider social and national divide and civil strife. No one should forget that creation of Pargya Thakur and Aseemanand type ultras is governed by Newton’s Third Law of Motion: every action has equal reaction. A leader like Digvijay may take fresh lesson from Newton’s theory that is still universally valid.

In the midst of cacophony of confusion certain Muslim organizations have warned the government not to brand any Muslim terror outfit till definite clues were established. Honoring their secular sentiment Chidambaram has ruled that the government was not leaving any option out. If no clue is found than the most convenient goat to sacrifice might be another Modi or Hindu extremists. Certain Muslim organizations in Delhi and central India have already started a whispering campaign on this line. Hope there would be no buyer.

Well! I am not a neuro-specialist to certify that such analysts are having periodical waves in their brains, determined by who pays for the Scotch. India could as well internationally isolate Pakistan by refusing to talk, despite US pressure. Can the US press Pakistan to kill all the terrorist protagonists? Obviously not. It can temporarily tighten the money string. Ultimately USA too would succumb to Pakistani blackmailing. What compulsion India has to succumb to Pakistani bullying? Simply because one Manmohan Singh wants peace with Pakistan during his tenure!

Counter terrorism is a dangerous game of wit. Terrorist are always steps ahead of intelligence. Most IB ground officers lack in tradecraft knowledge and superior wit to beat the terror modules and cells. In most places they do not have even access capability.

In case the armed paramilitary forces are deducted from the existing police strength it would appear that India has one policeman for nearly 5000 people. How can effective policing be performed with this kind of civil police strength? The country needs nearly over 3 million additional civil police for appropriate policing. In a burgeoning economy internal stability and law and order play an important role. This cardinal factor is overlooked by the central and state governments. Expenditure on policing is intricately related to steady growth.

A study indicates that in average a constable aspirant has to pay minimum rupees 2 lac bribe. A sub-inspector aspirant has to pay minimum rupees 5 lac as bribe. Besides this the political masters mint money out of recruitment at different levels. In addition to that the politicians demand huge money from Dy. SP to sub-inspector ranks for posting and transfer to ‘lucrative’ stations. Having entered the force by paying huge bribes, the average policeman leans on the pockets of criminals, mafia gangs and common citizen. Collection of hafta from street vendors, shop keepers and common people is a widely spread disease. A dishonest force is a vulnerable force.

The civil police lower ranks are recruited from various backgrounds and are not well trained in investigation, counterterrorism, and gathering ground intelligence from local BCs (bad characters), HOs (habitual offenders) and even watchful community people. Community policing has not been integrated with Indian policing system. A lower rank is not well compensated for nearly 12-16 hour duty. He looks out for ‘extra income’ through devious channels. Moreover, the Indian police have not yet overcome the colonial hangover and treat common citizen as suspects and milking cows.

Terror related intelligence has three broad divisions: Strategic- advance intelligence regarding location of terror modules and cells and their foreign linkages; Tactical actionable intelligence-advance intelligence about immediate plan and programme of the terrorists; Research and analysis. While some of these aspects are covered by the IB, the state police intelligence lack in expertise in these aspects of tradecraft.

In brief, what messages do we get from the jihadi attacks and acts of political and administrative non-action, proxy war that destroy national fabric, infuse separatism in sections of the Muslims; arouse competitive Hindu resurgence and common citizen’s loss of trust in the governing political and systemic tools?

The messages are simple.

• India is not ready to wake up to the reality that all “M-words” are not secular and all “H-words” are not communal.
• The political parties are required to abandon the street-urchin-psychology of opposing every action of political rivals.
• The State of India and its intelligence and police forces are not adequate to meet jihadist threat. India lacks in systemic tools to fight foreign inspired jihadist elements.
• India refused to accept that sections of its own citizen have been subverted by Pakistani and pre-Hasina Bangladeshi intelligence outfits and jihadi tanzeems.
• India has failed to stop Bangladeshi migration flood.
• The country lacks efficient anti-terrorist Act, faster criminal jurisprudence system and united political will.
• Some political parties continue to suffer from appeasement policy that encourage and embolden the jihadists.
• The State of India is unable to thwart foreign intervention in India’s internal security affairs through diplomatic, geostrategic and military actions.
• Muslim separatism is gaining strength and is being encouraged by certain actions and inactions of the governing tools and by machinations of the neighboring countries.
• Jihad has come to stay and grow in Indian mainland trying to defeat the country from within
• Citizens are losing faith in the governing capability of Indian political and administrative systems.

National Security cannot be made a part of political ideology and historical day-dreaming of unity of the people. Jihad can be fought with actual understanding of the harsh realities and not on the basis of mantras like “ostrich-secularism.”

Indian States (provinces) are not prepared with trained, equipped and motivated and dedicated Intelligence Wings that can take care of jihadi thrusts. Police Intelligence is simply out of date and not tuned to tackle jihadi and terrorist thrusts. They are caught napping all the time.

The Central Intelligence Bureau can perform well. Their abnormal deficiency has occurred because the governments have failed to give more trained, equipped and motivated manpower to the IB. A Security Assistant in IB is equated with a dak delivery peon, process server and daftary, so is the police constable. Why would a process server risk his life for fighting terrorism? How can the citizenry expect protection from a daftary? The nation should not expect best out of a force that is treated by 150 year old civil administration as chaprasis. Motivation is linked to service condition. Absence of Unified Anti-terror law has impeded the methodology of prevention and investigation. Proliferation of agencies has created jurisdictional turf war.

Political color of the government decide attitude of enforcing agencies to jihadist organizations and situations. A Chief Minister in UP decides in his wisdom that SIMI is not a terrorist organization, though the Supreme Court has told SIMI, “You are a terrorist organization.” The government in Kolkata refused to react till a prominent businessman was kidnapped and part of ransom money was used by the ISI in 9/11 attack on America and attack on US Consulate. Political color should not affect war against jihad and terrorism. Hindu resilience should not be taken for granted.

The madrasas, maktabs and certain schools teach hate-campaign. This is required to be monitored and corrective measures are required to be taken. A section of Muslims in India have been infected by jihadi ideology. This is being exploited by Pakistan. Minority pampering is not the answer. The community leaders must be sensitized that rooting of jihadism may harm them in the long run.

India requires something like Homeland Security Act and ancillary administrative, intelligence and investigation agencies. Today even POTA is not enough. Indian political breed should stop thinking in terms of Hindu-Muslim relationship as it existed between the times of Sir Sayid Ahmad and M. A. Jinnah. If we cannot respond as one nation and one people and at the slightest allegation that only Muslims are being targeted in the name of anti-terrorist actions, India cannot avoid looming greater catastrophe.

The damn truth is: what is happening in India is not terrorism. It is jihadist action directed at dividing India.

Is India prepared to face the facts that the international jihadists and subverted Indian Muslims are trying to impose jihad as the final acts of redemption of Islamic glory that once ruled India?

If that be so, let us compose a requiem to Motherland India.

excellent but long article. requires political will with statemenship, not competitive vote bank politics which is sorely lacking today.