Telangana Monitor

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 22 Jul 2011 19:55

Another crap from Vicky Nanjappa
Solution to Telangana row only by November

He has so far produced far more articles using his so called "sources".

In any case the date keep moving from February to May to August to November.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 22 Jul 2011 21:26

Suicided

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 22 Jul 2011 22:35

Muppalla wrote:Another crap from Vicky Nanjappa
Solution to Telangana row only by November

He has so far produced far more articles using his so called "sources".

In any case the date keep moving from February to May to August to November.

Kavuri & co, who is front for powerful Coastal lobby, said it is impossible to split and said that Pranab said to them that it was mistake to announce on 12/09/09. Sailajanath, who leads united AP congress lobby, is pushing to announce SKC 6th option and close the chapter.

Payyavula & co just did equal-equal, i.e. if you go stupid again by bending to resignations, strikes, suicides, we'll do equal or even more.
T-TDP by doing resignations ahead of Congress thwarted any advantage to Congress in this resignations drama baazi.

Congress is deadlocked and TDP avoided blows.

Center will have to face the facts and tighten screws of their lackey TRS. Pushing to November is way of avoiding that.

Pranab seems to have took over handling. He should come and say look Telangana leaders were all projecting to me that T is backward and wants separate state but now they're singing different tune and going by their original argument which is not correct according to SKC report there we can't split state. If they sing "sentiment" theme, Gulamnabi Azad is there to ignore, he listens to earful from his native state JK.

New team Pranab and Gulamnabi, after Chidu and Moily, will play ping-pong with T leaders for some time.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 22 Jul 2011 22:50

If they push to November they have to make favorable noises for T state. Otherwise how can they save the H&D of T MPs and MLAs? I wish the congress tries the same with SA MPs and MLAs.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 23 Jul 2011 04:49

RamaY wrote:Vinasakale vipareeta buddhi!

The next move is Manda Krishna Madiga's!

Here you go. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbinE4j60VQ

He brings good point that Harish Rao & co was behaving nicely with officer in charge but beat the heck out of the lowly employee who has no power and who turned out to be SC.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 23 Jul 2011 05:08

Shades of "Banchan Dora" (I'm your slave master) language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U_xt9YWeXQ

unarayanadas · Post by **unarayanadas** » 23 Jul 2011 10:38

ShyamSP wrote:
unarayanadas wrote:Shyam Garu, I have posted it in the website but copied it here for the information of our members, as I felt the topic was relevant. However if you think such posts are not allowed here, I do not mind deleting it. Please advise. Thank you. UND
Sorry I only meant to say you should post there because it was well written. Anyway, I didn't see same comments when I searched in that web page. You probably might have changed words.

Thank you Shyam Garu. It is posted in the name of VOXINDICA and can be seen now.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Jul 2011 00:11

Resignations drama comes to end.

TV9 - Nadendla manohar reject telangana MLA's resignations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1temy_rz1M4

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 24 Jul 2011 01:43

At this point, the chances of united Andhra Pradesh are very slim. If central government stretches this any longer (rumor is they will drag this to November), not only they need to split the state but also be responsible in creating an India-Pakistan situation with in India. Chances of for mini civil war in Hyderabad under intense regional hatred is not an exaggeration.

By playing with the emotions of both sides, ruling govt as well as the opposition robbed the people of any possibility of coming to an amicable solution without central intervention. Therefore it is central govt responsibility to put an end to this decesively.

If they think telangana demand is not genuine and creates issue rest of the country, they need to say unequivocally and apply the central's will with iron hand. I guarantee the T movement will end. It is possible that as a result Congress may lose elections in T. But it is time for them to stand above politics.

On the other hand, if they think T demand is genuine and unique, announce it and tell seemandhrites that separate T is non negotiable and done. They will live with it and bargain for 5 years of common capital. The so called settlers will have 5 years to plan if they want to leave. Perhaps to protect the settlers, Centre can enact an anti regional hatred law (it will help other Metros as well) on the lines of sc/st atrocities act. Most likely Congress will be wiped out of seemandhra. Again, congress has to rise above politics and pay the price for their own sins.

Anything else will not only ruin Andhra Pradesh but also create a collateral damage that will be felt allover India for long time. Central High command cannot make one promise to visiting andhra MPs and an opposite promise to T MPs. This nauseating double game has to stop. Either separate T or united AP, please make the decision now. For once, I hope Congress will act based on India's best interests, not based on the need to preserve the dynasty's hegemony.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 24 Jul 2011 04:02

^^ Dasari garu,

What you have written above makes too much sense only. Hence, will likely not be followed. I doubt Dilli cares much if AP burns as long as party interests are protected. IOW, I doubt INC will take a stance that risks a wipeout in either T or Kosta. That means, they will dither even as hyd burns, I fear.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Jul 2011 04:19

++1 to Hari. See the latest. T should be given or not has neither other parties not any other representatives. It is just INC lesgislators and MPs. It is about their win or loss in AP and nothing else will determine the decision.

If central government stretches this any longer (rumor is they will drag this to November), not only they need to split the state but also be responsible in creating an India-Pakistan situation with in India. Chances of for mini civil war in Hyderabad under intense regional hatred is not an exaggeration.

This is exactly what INC is looking for. They thrive and do better in chaos. Even in a divided situation if INC is wiped out of the state then the solution will emerge. Otherwise it is the same saga. Idiotic as they started it in 2004, they have put a commission and they have the report too. Still they want until November to decide. There is actually nothing remaining to talk about the issue.

The only things they have on plate and what they may be trying until Nov are:
(1) Jagan getting cornered with CBI etc.
(2) KCR merging with congress with a grand package that is short of T state

By the way latest bundh is a flop even in T region outside HYD. People are vexed with a bundh every Saturday. Shopkeepers are just not cooperting anymore and autos are moving freely. It is just the government buses that are off.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Jul 2011 04:26

When I met him in TANA i asked him to do his best to keep the united sate.

I knew him as a kid and we have long ties to his family.

Even after 3 decades he recognized me!!!

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Jul 2011 04:48

AP state BJP president is coming
BJP President - Sri Kishen Reddy Program in Bay Area

Please await more details. He will address on latest events in India in general and AP in particular

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Jul 2011 06:05

Looks like there is going to be a split in a major national party formed over 100 years ago in South Indian Level with some fans of Ex PM cabinets and people like PV Narasimha Rao, Indra/Rajeev Gandhi and Fans of Abdul Kalam's India 2020 vision.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 24 Jul 2011 21:32

Muppalla wrote:...The only things they have on plate and what they may be trying until Nov are:
(1) Jagan getting cornered with CBI etc.
(2) KCR merging with congress with a grand package that is short of T state
...

CBI on Jagan is another drama. All Jagan has to do is release some money trail to Mrs 10%.
End results will be they'll find some irregularities for a few crores that Jagan will apologize
and pay taxes to.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Jul 2011 21:39

---self deleted---
sorry, just found the answer to my question.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 25 Jul 2011 10:13

Delhi is slowly building capabilities of tehParty in AP. CBI hunt on Jagan, Bothsa Presidentship, roping Chiru etc are the steps in that direction. With Delhi leadership not fearing their resignations T INC leaders are now in a fix on whether to resgin afresh or not. Ministers are not ready and want to go to office and start their ( earning) work. Other MLA's are afreaid to take a fresh dig. T leadership on its own not capable take on the manipulation of INC Leadership. Rejections of the resignations is the level to which Delhi will go to stop threats.

I think KCR no longer in INC Delhi pay roll. He has his own ambisions and with the present self glorified image he will not do a Chiru and fall in the insignificance in larger INC game. It seems no one in INC HIgh COmmnad wants to touch T issue. That is why the so called consultations.

vishnua · Post by **vishnua** » 25 Jul 2011 20:11

On Jagan,

INC is trying to do what Amerrkhan is doing to Pakis..

10% won't work with Madam. Jagan has to make "peace/comprisme" with madam and then will let him keep his loot (most of it) and might join the cong as well. They will sermon him look how long it took for you father to be CM. If you wait good things will happen in Cong.

KCR might also join Cong with special T-package + CM post as well.

I think this is where they are going. If that is case, they hope they will come to power in 2014 as well.

AP is screwed no matter what.. by 2019,it will probably join the BIMARU states..

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 26 Jul 2011 06:40

vishnua wrote: KCR might also join Cong with special T-package + CM post as well.

This is a Chenna Reddy plan redux. If INC succeeds in this, I will say they really pulled it out. If they succeed, from an electoral perspective they are on their way to replace SA-Reddy with Kapus and T-Reddys with Velamas. They assume their HAM part of KHAM is intact.

INC is really playing a test match where as the success of Jagan is dependent on 20/20 match. INC is bracing for a fourth innings chase of high score. There is a major player here apart from Jagan, KCR and INC.

AP is screwed onlee

unarayanadas · Post by **unarayanadas** » 26 Jul 2011 17:44

This is the latest from Mr. P. Chidambaram, the Hon'ble Home Minister of India: Can't thrust Telangana solution down parties throat: PC:

“I was speaking on behalf of the Government. So if it is anyone's case that the Home Minister can unilaterally or withdraw an announcement, one must be very naïve to think so,” he said.

vishnua · Post by **vishnua** » 27 Jul 2011 01:48

Isn't the the whole game to the keep other major player in the opposition?

I seriously think Jagan will be back in the cong. This is based on, NOT on inside info but just my predication.

He cannot and will not survive on his own if CBI really turns their screws on him and when they are done with him. May be Ej's will support him but even that support I think is split.

INC will try to hold KHAM as much as possible but the question whether the electorate will act that way especially K. Chiru let down lot of ppl. Majority of K's espcially for coastal districts voted for TDP during NTR's time.

As per Channa Reddy's plan, they will do that come close to next election untill T-issue will keep dragging or it will be "explored" at the "right time" .That is where I think they are struggling.

They know in the current scenario they will not come back to power but goal is let the state keep buring and make sure they have majority in assembly and stay in power.

But when you talk about 2014, things will change but that is far way.

During Channa Reddy's time there were no other major player. It was pretty much INC internal power struggle within the state. Hence IG could take the decision. No repucursions as to loss of power.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 27 Jul 2011 08:01

Chidu wiped his hands off (Chethulu dulupukonnadu) of Telangana.

http://www.eenadu.net/archives/archive- ... panel1.htm

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels ... ays-pc-178
Can’t thrust T solution, says PC
July 26: The home minister, Mr P. Chidambaram, said that political parties in AP must help the Centre find a solution on Telangana. “This is a unique situation where political parties are divided down the middle. The Congress, Telugu Desam, CPI and the CPM are all divided. The only party which claims to be undivided is the BJP because it has only one member,” he said. Since political parties are divided “we cannot thrust the solution down the throats of political parties who represent the people.”

Mr Chidambaram said so far as the Congress was concerned, the effort was to unite the party and find a solution that was acceptable to all MPs and MLAs. “The other parties must all do the same thing. It is easy to say you have not not found a solution but anyone who tells us we have not not found a solution has no no solution either,” he said. Meanwhile, the BJP on Tuesday assured a delegation of its leaders from AP that it will raise the issue of separate Telangana state in the Monsoon Session of Parliament. Later speaking to the media, Mr Gadkari said “Our party is in full support of the demand for the creation of Telangana state. We are with the people of Telangana. It is a commitment of BJP to form a separate Telangana.”

BJP leaders are again proving themselves as idiots. Instead of nailing Congress on 2G, Lokpal and other important issues, they want to waste with T-issue.

Congress will have last laugh if Parliament becomes nosiy with T-issue instead of other issues where Congress gets nailed.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 27 Jul 2011 08:15

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels ... ails-t-181
Azad seeks full details on T

July 26: Though YSR was known to be a strong integritionist of the state, his statement on the floor of the Assembly on the Telangana came in handy for the Telangana Congress group that is currently engaged in a formal dialogue with the AICC general secretary, Mr Ghulam Nabi Azad.

Mr Azad reportedly enquired during his first round of talks on Monday to show him any “firm” or positive statement either by the Congress or the government on Telangana. The T group leaders showed him the policy statement of the late CM on February 12, 2009 made on the floor of the House declaring, “Government of AP in principle is not against the formation of T-state.” The leaders were amused when Mr Azad sought details of every statement that was made on Telangana and what followed each time a statement was made. “He asked us minute details also as if he want to know everything about Telangana,” a minister who participated in the dialogue told this newspaper

.

In other words, chai-biskooti

Similarly, Mr Azad has also sought information on sharing of state revenues, liabilities in the event of division of state including sharing of river waters and electricity. The T group has promised to give him a powerpoint presentation on Wednesday morning, during the second round of talks. When the issue of sharing of revenues, etc. came up for discussion, Mr Azad also sought their opinion on status of Hyderabad. The leaders told him in one voice that they have no objection if there is a common capital for both the states for a long time till Seemandhra state people build their own capital. Mr Azad also pointed out the objections of Seemandhra people that Hyderabad accounted for 56 per cent of the total revenues of the state, and they want a pro rata share of revenues generated from Hyderabad to Seemandhra state in case of bifurcation. Seemandhra people’s contention was that Hyderabad’s enviable revenues was due to them.

This argument was turned down by the T-Congress group who told Mr Azad that only seven per cent of Seemandhra people lived in Hyderabad. “When Andhra people left Madras, was there any share provided from Madras revenues?” the T group asked.

Lahori Logic: Now we get all revenues, they get all debt

James B · Post by **James B** » 27 Jul 2011 13:01

Inside info from INC is that Jagan has strong proof of money trail (from YSR regime days) to 10 Janpath in case INC leadership decides to screw Jagan.It is one of the reason Jagan is confident despite having disproportionate wealth. He is untouchable by INC.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 27 Jul 2011 20:09

^^^
then perhaps it is time that other factions in AP do some sting ops to gain some info and make a mutually agreeable deal with INC to kill off a common thorn. INC is more scared of Jagan than it is of TDP. if INC and non-Jagan factions decide to cut a temporary covert deal, while continuing the tamasha on the outside, then Jagan can effectively be neutralized and INC might spring one of it famous helicopter crash incidents on him. happened to many Scindia, and Pilot in the past.

Dasari · Post by **Dasari** » 28 Jul 2011 08:26

Separate T or United AP, Congress winning both sides is impossible. They have to chose one. In fact the possibility of losing both sides is very high. In the case of United AP, they may have some hope in seemandhra, especially if they succeed in maligning Jagan. In the case of separate T, they are at the mercy of KCR and he may or may not share the laurels. This is what they are struggling with. Meanwhile the state is suffering.

At the end, even though the allegations against Jagan are true, since they are self incriminating for Congress, nothing much will come out. What we know until now, Jagan is not a type to back down. In the final analysis, they will dump united AP and go with separate T. In order to pacify the capitalists from seemandhra, they may come with some ridiculous formula to share the Hyderabad which does no good for the people of SA.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 29 Jul 2011 19:11

Now there are new demands from other places
- Greater Seema (they are asking for two districts from Coastal Andhra to be joined with Seema districts)
- Manya Pradesh (north andhra districts)

In addition to this, there seems to be a split between North and South telangana districts.

I want a separate state for my village

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 01 Aug 2011 03:43

http://sakshi.com/main/FullStory.aspx?c ... subcatid=0

gist: Mahesh babu attacked, whisked away by security, his car front damaged, his luggage car more damaged by telangana activists.

Dont know much about any of his statements pro or anti telangana statements. He was attacked previously as well. I think this is part of the new "security and vasooli" business of TRS.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 01 Aug 2011 06:50

ShyamSP wrote:Chidu wiped his hands off (Chethulu dulupukonnadu) of Telangana.

BJP leaders are again proving themselves as idiots. Instead of nailing Congress on 2G, Lokpal and other important issues, they want to waste with T-issue.

Congress will have last laugh if Parliament becomes nosiy with T-issue instead of other issues where Congress gets nailed.

Saw Kishan Reddy, State BJP President in NoVA yesterday.
He started the speech well, talking about the corruption and mis-management of Congress. For the first 10-15mins speech was interesting. Then he started talking about Pakistan and then rant China for several minutes. People started walking from the auditorium.
Not a single word about AP, Telengana or regional issues.
Speech lacked clarity and focus.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 01 Aug 2011 09:46

Actor Mahesh Babu's father Actor Krishana resently allied himself with Jagan. But otherwise there is no statement etc from Mahesh Babu on Telangana to my knowledge. In fact film industry is totally keeping out of T affair. This is the second time attack has taken place on Mahesh Babu movie sets and himself.

No one is willing to talk about the blackmail and haftha vasool in lacs and crores of rupees that is going on in the name of Telangana in Hyderabad. Non payment of money to KCR may be the reason for this attack. When sometime back JP spoke about this extorsion and was attacked within the Assembly premises itself. KTR was shown instigating the attack on Tv for sometime and suddenly the repeats stoped showing that.

If you do not pay up to KCR and his gangs or say ayinthing against them you will be attacked.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 Aug 2011 22:34

X-Posted from TSP thread

Acharya wrote:
Samudragupta wrote:Global Muslim Strategic depth...Dawn on 15/8/1947...

http://twitpic.com/5zrlp6/full
Check the link to Hyderabad India.
The Nizam paid the salary for the entire Pakistan in the first few years after 1947.

The same Nizam our KCR wants to emulate.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 Aug 2011 06:21

I am failing to understand the tactics of the Telangana Congress leaders like KK etc. They are now openly insulting people like Azad, Chidambaram etc in the media. Why they want to antoganize them at this stage when the decision may come in one or two months. May be they now sence that no Telangana state will be given and want to jump to TRS? KCR was a creature of Congress. But is he still? I think slowly KCR is also trying to get all congress leaders to his fold instead he joining congress.

In the meanwhile a debate in Parliament on Telangana on 5th as BJP gave a notice.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Aug 2011 07:37

Pilli guddidaite elaka edo choopinchindanta

VenkataS · Post by **VenkataS** » 03 Aug 2011 09:06

Seperate state or not, I hope that congress is wiped out of present day AP lands in 2014. This is what they deserve for propping up KCR in the first place and for that Dec 9th announcement by Chidambaram announcing the formation of a seperate state. If AP is the reason that the chosen one misses out on his birth-right of prime ministership in 2014 then it is just the icing on the cake.

By their collective actions they have set AP back by at least 5 years in terms of development (and it probably will get worse). Hopefully they will get what they deserve.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 03 Aug 2011 17:34

Almost every one in AP thinks in the same lines. Congress has no sense to understand the anger in AP now. If any elections are held today they are not going to win even a single MP seat in AP. Even if they agree to the division of the state to retain their hold on Telangana it will lead to immediate fall of the governament in the state and even at Delhi.

I hope AP is going to be the one of the reason for kicking the Italian mafia out of power in 2014 ( if they survive till then that is)

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 03 Aug 2011 20:23

Narayana Rao wrote:I hope AP is going to be the one of the reason for kicking the Italian mafia out of power in 2014 ( if they survive till then that is)

Sad to prick lofty dreams but there's no way any gubmint other than a cong led one can come to power in 2014. None. The electoral arithmatic is so strongly their way, they're practically unbeatable now. Oh, I'd love to be proved wrong but the sinking feeling I get tells me the INC has nowhere to go from here but up even if the EVMs are all A-OK which I don;t set store by....

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 03 Aug 2011 21:04

Hari Seldon wrote:
Narayana Rao wrote:I hope AP is going to be the one of the reason for kicking the Italian mafia out of power in 2014 ( if they survive till then that is)
Sad to prick lofty dreams but there's no way any gubmint other than a cong led one can come to power in 2014. None. The electoral arithmatic is so strongly their way, they're practically unbeatable now. Oh, I'd love to be proved wrong but the sinking feeling I get tells me the INC has nowhere to go from here but up even if the EVMs are all A-OK which I don;t set store by....

Care you give some arithmetic.

However your sinking feeling might be right, incompetent BJP is playing into what Congress want. Even if Congress loses some seats in AP, they made BJP+TDP alliance unworkable pre-poll so the TDP will not sweep. Even in Karnataka BJP might fall for the reason of "anti-incumbency" and "corruption", same logic may not apply to Congress - go figure fake democracy.

No gains in seats and no new pre-poll alliances for BJP mean a gain for Congress.

Joke is BJP worked up and got excited with resignations drama and wants to debate in parliament. Another case of Congress conditioning BJP.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 04 Aug 2011 21:41

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 483496.cms

Congress President Sonia Gandhi on Thursday underwent surgery at New York's Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center for an undisclosed ailment which will keep her out of India for a month. During this period, the party affairs will looked after by Rahul Gandhi-led four-member group, a spokesman said.

Congress general secretary Janardhan Dwivedi said that in Sonia Gandhi's absence, she had appointed a four-member group to handle the day-to-day running of the party -- including her son Rahul Gandhi, who is tipped as a future prime minister.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Aug 2011 21:44

Did they name the MD also?

Ohmygosh,

I had shook hands at TANA with the medic as he is a family friend!!!

Real gem of person.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 05 Aug 2011 01:36

vijayk wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 483496.cms

Congress President Sonia Gandhi on Thursday underwent surgery at New York's Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center for an undisclosed ailment which will keep her out of India for a month. During this period, the party affairs will looked after by Rahul Gandhi-led four-member group, a spokesman said.

Congress general secretary Janardhan Dwivedi said that in Sonia Gandhi's absence, she had appointed a four-member group to handle the day-to-day running of the party -- including her son Rahul Gandhi, who is tipped as a future prime minister.

Does she have cancer? She had trip before also.