Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 05, 2011

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 07 Aug 2011 08:31

>>>>Indian mediocrity in part stems from Indians believing that Indian opinions are not good enough unless they are validated by the west. This is actually made even more true by the fact that Indians allow the publication of pure trash/plagiarised stuff, leading to a situation in which something of moderate academic value that gets accepted by the west can be held up as a great achievement.

This is very true. The medical conferences in west I have attended are of the same level as API and others back in India. Same amount of plagiarism , same amount of obviously fake data , same proportion of bluffing and the same tiny proportion of truly excellent presentations. I can trace 15 papers published by ccmb hyderabad before they were stolen by someone in MIT. But the MIT guy got the nobel. More than Indian mediocrity it is about recognition that one gets in foreign conferences. ie money making potential . For medical conferences it is about getting recognised by pharma companies who can rope you in for a clinical trial. (lot of money for doc's in these)In case of ISI back conferences it may be direct cash.

But I don't believe this phenomenon is purely Indian. People might recall the number of pro-soviet commies that university of southern California and cambridge turned up. There were Americans who raised money for Cuba. In case of medicine you are well aware of the number of useless (and potentially dangerous) products that make their way towards the market . Many have been validate by western "academics".

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 07 Aug 2011 08:33

Jawans beheaded in Kupwara

http://www.dailypioneer.com/359064/Behe ... hurry.html

Abhi_G · Post by **Abhi_G** » 07 Aug 2011 09:50

^^^
http://www.dailypioneer.com/358899/The- ... eaded.html

Pakistan’s businesswoman-turned-Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar may feign to be miffed that the media chose to focus attention on her Birkin handbag, Roberto Cavalli sunglasses, Jimmy Choo shoes and South Sea pearls during her recent visit to India rather than her intellectual contribution towards peace-making between a terrorist state and its victim neighbour, but that does not in any manner diminish the fact that a calculated gamble by the decrepit civilian Government in Islamabad and the criminal military-jihadi complex in Rawalpindi has served its purpose and paid rich dividends.

The feckless political class in India has elected to be reduced to a bowl of quivering jelly in the face of Pakistan’s charm offensive, much as it was when Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto brought along his daughter Benazir and managed to extract huge concessions at Simla in 1972 without raising any hackles. As for the media of this unfortunate country, led as it is by television channels desperate to grab eyeballs whatever it takes and ever-so-mindful of sensitivities across the Radcliffe Line, it has neither the time nor the inclination to look beyond the obvious. Given as we are to self-flagellation, self-doubt and self-denigration, it is only natural that our media, which frankly reflects our society without any distortion, should have seized upon Ms Khar’s visit to paint Pakistanis as the sub-continent’s beautiful people and Indians as the beasts. Nothing could have exemplified this better than the running commentary by the editor of a news channel comparing fuddy-duddies in the Government of India with the swish visiting Minister, and how we as a nation are straggling while Pakistan is boldly marching forward. It’s a pity that our media houses continue to enjoy the untold and never-to-be disclosed benefits of stationing their studios in Delhi and its suburbs; their hearts and minds belong elsewhere.

And so it is that ever since Ms Khar came to Delhi, showed off her sartorial preference for hand-made exclusive Hermes bags which she wouldn’t dare flaunt in the lanes of Karachi and conquered our Left-liberal commentariat which controls media content, rare has been the story or article critical of Pakistan or fair in its assessment of that country’s continued hate India, harm India policy that is implemented with the ruthless fanaticism of jihadis who have dedicated their lives to the mass slaughter of innocent men, women and children. Hence, it stands to reason that our media should have purposefully glossed over the barbaric beheading of two Indian soldiers by Pakistanis — it is unclear whether the perpetrators were Pakistani soldiers or Pakistani terrorists being provided cover by the former while trying to sneak into India — near the Line of Control in Kupwara district of Jammu & Kashmir. The ghastly incident, it now transpires, occurred late last month, around the time of Ms Khar’s visit. Sketchy details that are available suggest the Indian soldiers’ bodies were “dumped” on our side of the LoC, which would mean they were kidnapped, tortured and then beheaded, a ritual without which jihadis believe their faith-ordained task is incomplete.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Aug 2011 10:19

ramana wrote:Shiv, I wish you had posted the news of the Kupwara incident a few days ago for it is turning out to be much worse.

I hope there is no anger. I would like to see cold revenge. It seems to me that I had a (false) image in my mind where there was the Pakistani army on the one hand whom I used to call uniformed jihadis and the other bunch of non uniformed jihadis. The line between the two may be non existent.

I hope this does not go unpunished. I am hoping to hear about a border incident soon.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 07 Aug 2011 10:56

Big hopes..we have to be grateful if Digvijay Singh does not praise the Paki soldiers and try to pin blame on RSS and JNU student union does not have a celebratory party....as they did after 60+ jawans were butchered by Naxals/Maoists.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Aug 2011 10:58

shiv wrote:It seems to me that I had a (false) image in my mind where there was the Pakistani army on the one hand whom I used to call uniformed jihadis and the other bunch of non uniformed jihadis. The line between the two may be non existent.

This is one more proof of the PA having been taken over at least up to the level of mid-level officers (if not higher) and certainly at the level of foot soldiers, by the jihadi groups, especially HuJI. The Strategic Depth concept has given way to Reverse Strategic Depth. The beheading certainly shows the hand of HuJI/Al Qaeda connection. I suspect that these terrorists were working along with the PA to perform this gruesome act. Let's recall incidents during the Kargil war and Ilyas Kashmiri's similar action that won him awards from the then President & COAs Gen. Musharraf in c. 2000. For far too long, our retaliation has been weak. To support what Ilyas Kashmiri had done, ‘Maulana Zahoor Ahmad Alvi of Jamia Muhammadia, Islamabad, issued a fatwa in support of slitting the throats of Indian Army officers’. Kashmiri's stock within Pakistan rose after that.

I am aghast when people claim that they have detected a change for the better among the Pakistanis. TSP is janus-faced. Not a word of what Pakistan says can be trusted. This incident calls for massive punishment.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 07 Aug 2011 11:04

SS, as we have discussed offline, there's a tremendous pressure on GOI to make things look good with the Pakistani government and even offer concessions. This incident and also Hafeez Sayeed's propaganda tour went without comment. The Pakistanis who have been asking for "result-oriented" discussions have apparently gone back very happy. Also, we now know, that our journalists have been asked to go easy on Pakistan issues - by our own government. What gives?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 07 Aug 2011 11:08

Abhi_G wrote:^^^
http://www.dailypioneer.com/358899/The- ... eaded.html

[/b] Nothing could have exemplified this better than the running commentary by the editor of a news channel comparing fuddy-duddies in the Government of India with the swish visiting Minister, and how we as a nation are straggling while Pakistan is boldly marching forward. It’s a pity that our media houses continue to enjoy the untold and never-to-be disclosed benefits of stationing their studios in Delhi and its suburbs; their hearts and minds belong elsewhere.

Who is this editor in question?

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 07 Aug 2011 11:21

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 511373.cms

A thinly-populated country of 5 million people, Norway, according to its government statistics, has more than 600,000 (or about 12%) immigrants as of 2011. Poles top the list of immigrants at 60,000, followed by Swedes at 34,000. But followed by Pakistanis at 32,000? How could that be?

We put the question of the skewed numbers to Indian diplomats who had served in the region. Their observations provide a fascinating insight into the drivers of immigration. Clearly, population of countries is just one part of the equation because Chinese and Indians are among the smaller immigrant groups in Norway. From all accounts, immigration to Norway is driven from distant politically and economically troubled states. Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Sri Lanka all went through political turmoil at a time Norway also had liberal immigration policies, especially towards political refugees. One Indian diplomat, who served in nearby Denmark, also pointed out that through much of the 1970s and 1980s, when it was difficult for Indians to secure passports, much less visas, Pakistanis had no such problems, often snagging 2-3 passports. A liberal passport regime in their home countries helped them emigrate in much larger numbers in proportion to India, which has six times Pakistan's population.

Norway's Pakistani growth has followed a similar pattern on a smaller scale. Many early Pakistanis immigrants came in fact from Punjab's Kharian town and surrounding areas in the 1960s and swelled through the family re-unification process in the 1970s and 1980s even as immigration laws became stricter in 1976. Today, Pakistani-Norwegians are making a mark in public and political life: Akhtar Chaudhry is a Member of the current Stortinget (Norway's Parliament) for the Sosialistisk Venstreparti (Socialist Left Party); Afshan Rafiq is a former member of the Stortinget for the Hoyre (Conservative Party of Norway) and her husband Aamir Sheikh is a member the Oslo city council. There are Pakistani-Norwegian news anchors, entertainers, and filmmakers.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 07 Aug 2011 11:36

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There are Pakistani-Norwegian news anchors, entertainers, and filmmakers and more importantly terrorists

Corrected now

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Aug 2011 12:28

Heard on NewsX channel just a while ago. ULFA Chief Arobindo Rajkhowa admits that TSP has been sending arms through Bangladesh to them since the 90s. Nothing that we didn't know, but this is the highest level of confirmation.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 07 Aug 2011 12:39

I have a fundamental question. Why is there not a single report of a Pakistani spy or Military General defect ever?

partha · Post by **partha** » 07 Aug 2011 12:40

Yes, here are some more details:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Pakistani ... 30339.aspx

Rajkhowa, 57, who is in the Capital now, leading an Ulfa team for peace talks with the Centre, told HT in an exclusive interview that the Pakistani elements - a fundamentalist strand within the state establishment - started supplying weapons to the rebels from 1990.

He said sophisticated weapons were being brought in ships to Bangladesh and then transported inland in trucks.

"One big consignment was caught in Chittagong, many ships were captured and in one case an entire shipload of arms was dumped into the sea to evade seizure. But many made it through."

"Ironically, the seized weapons are being used by the elite Rapid Action Battalion of Bangladesh (RAB) now, the same force that nabbed me," Rajkhowa said.

Claiming that the close ties with the Pakistani fundamentalists led to "a rot within the organisation", he said, "Many deals were taking place without the knowledge of the Ulfa central committee."

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 07 Aug 2011 14:50

^^^
This must be included in the first post of every TSP dhaga.

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Aug 2011 15:02

X Posted from the Indian Army News and discussions thread.

PratikDas wrote:Chindits: Soon After Indo-Pak Talks, Pakistan's Border Area Team (BAT) Behead Indian Soldiers In Kupwara's 19 Div----Rajput Regt In Question
According to the sitrep (situation report), it mentions four soldiers being beheaded.

shravan wrote:Jammu and Kashmir: Two jawans beheaded by militants
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/story ... 47238.html

A senior Army official, requesting anonymity, disclosed that the two men of Kumaon regiment were killed and their heads were chopped off. Their bodies were also mutilated, he said.

The incident happened around Pak foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar's visit to the country, in the last week of July, disclosed the officer.

The story started by Suman Sharma on the beheading of Indian Soldiers and carried thereafter among others by India Today has been flatly denied by the Indian Army.

All this is starting to leave me to wonder if this was another attempt by Suman Sharma to boost traffic to her blog after the previous attempt of boosting traffic by claiming that she would make available first pictures of the Arihant to a chosen few lucky souls

Any way back to story on the beheadings being debunked and Major General Sanjeev Madhok., Additional Director General (Public Information) on the matter:

"The story is incorrect with respect to beheading (of soldiers). It belittles the sacrifices made by our soldiers and is also hurting the feeling of families and the Army".

From Here:

Beheading row:Army rejects report

In sum perhaps too much ado about nothing

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Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 07 Aug 2011 15:04

There are Pakistani-Norwegian news anchors, entertainers, and filmmakers and more importantly terrorists

In countries with 20,000 or more Pakistanis, it is rare to see no problems caused by them - Pakistani terrorism almost always rears its head. Extremism and support for terrorism is an intrinsic element of Pakistani culture.

So, Norway with more than 30,000 Pakistanis is sitting on a ticking time bomb- they should expect high levels of rape, murder and violence, from their Pakistani populace, in relatively short order.

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Aug 2011 15:19

P.R. China fakes the generation capacity of the second Chashma Nuclear Reactor and claims a generating capacity of 340 MW when only 325 Megawatt is possible. Either that or the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the world’s sole Islamic Nuclear Power is so incompetent in matters Nuclear that they cannot run a new nuclear reactor at its rated capacity

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ChashNuPP-2 fails to generate 340MW as per licence

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Aug 2011 15:47

15 NATO tankers destroyed at Peshawar

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 07 Aug 2011 16:06

arun wrote:P.R. China fakes the generation capacity of the second Chashma Nuclear Reactor and claims a generating capacity of 340 MW when only 325 Megawatt is possible. Either that or the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the world’s sole Islamic Nuclear Power is so incompetent in matters Nuclear that they cannot run a new nuclear reactor at its rated capacity :

ChashNuPP-2 fails to generate 340MW as per licence

Fool, this is Ramadan season and the so called unaccounted for 15MW is Zakath

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 07 Aug 2011 16:19

arun wrote:
In sum perhaps too much ado about nothing .

The soldiers lost their lives. Whether they were beheaded or not is immaterial . I did not like the description in the media . It was to callous .

Some (jawans) fell on the other side (of LoC) too,how many, one does not know for sure as it was dark. You must understand that when there is heavy firing some amount of mutilation does take place,"

I doubt that an IA official made such a statement .This sounds a bit too casual and callous.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Aug 2011 17:13

arun wrote:
Beheading row:Army rejects report

I notice jawans fell on both sides of the LoC.

chilarai · Post by **chilarai** » 07 Aug 2011 17:17

partha wrote:Yes, here are some more details:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Pakistani ... 30339.aspx

Rajkhowa, 57, who is in the Capital now, leading an Ulfa team for peace talks with the Centre, told HT in an exclusive interview that the Pakistani elements - a fundamentalist strand within the state establishment - started supplying weapons to the rebels from 1990.

I think its in the book "Strangers of the mist" by sanjoy hazarika which mentions how a couple of ULFA men goes to pakistan and having no one to contact just walks into a polica thana and asks to see the ISI. the police sends them off as crazy and then in the night in the hotel they get a visit by the ISI.

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 07 Aug 2011 17:33

Altair wrote:I have a fundamental question. Why is there not a single report of a Pakistani spy or Military General defect ever?

Why should they, when they enjoy a state in their control, and enjoy all the perks on offer by being at the top of a corrupt chain. These Generals of TSP are like feudal lords. Why will a lord defect, if not in danger of losing his lordship?

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 07 Aug 2011 17:38

SSridhar wrote:
shiv wrote: This is one more proof of the PA having been taken over at least up to the level of mid-level officers (if not higher) and certainly at the level of foot soldiers, by the jihadi groups, especially HuJI.

The islam pasand officers indoctrinated since Zia times have reached at least the level of Brigadiers.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Aug 2011 19:28

Pakistan aspires to send an astronaut on Chinese spacecraft

Pakistan is keen to send an astronaut on board a Chinese spacecraft, a top diplomat has said as the two countries are set to launch a Pakistani satellite soon.

“It is our natural aspiration that a Pakistani astronaut aboard a Chinese spacecraft flies to the space,” Pakistan’s Ambassador to China, Masood Khan said ahead of the launch of Paksat-1R.

“This is possible because Pakistan and China enjoy relations of trust and confidence,” he said.

The Pakistan Communication Satellite, Paksat-1R is due to be launched from Chinese satellite launching site located at Xichang city in the second week of August, depending on weather conditions.

Paksat-1R will replace Paksat-1 which is going to complete its useful life in 2011.

“Launching of a communication satellite is going to be a new symbolic development in Pakistan-China relations, as this will broaden the horizons of our cooperation,” Mr. Khan was quoted as saying by the official APP news agency.

He said, during Premier Wen Jiabao’s visit to Pakistan in December last year, the two governments had decided to deepen cooperation in space, science and technology.

“Paksat-1R, as the satellite is called, is a big step in that direction. It will revolutionise the use of broadband Internet, digital television broadcasting and mobile telephony; spur our economy; and strengthen the education and health sectors,” he said.

“Such cooperation with China also helps us move towards self-reliance,” he said adding that Pakistan was looking at cooperation with China in remote sensing satellites as well. {Now we know what it means}

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 07 Aug 2011 19:30

http://abcnews.go.com/International/nat ... d=14249189

American communities are mourning the loss of 30 U.S. troops who were killed when Afghan insurgents shot down a helicopter carrying the most elite forces in the US military -- Navy SEALs along with Air Force and Army personnel, U.S. officials said.

Saturday's crash occurred near a Taliban stronghold in Wardak province in Afghanistan.

On board the Chinook helicopter, there were 30 Americans -- including 22 SEALs, 8 Afghans and a dog trained specifically for special operations.

Is that part of paki army strategy of running with the bunnies and hunting with the kuttahs. Maybe, paki army fed the info to the talibs(paki army in salwar kameez) to take out the chinook.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Aug 2011 20:04

Altair wrote:I have a fundamental question. Why is there not a single report of a Pakistani spy or Military General defect ever?

Altair that is a good question. A person who is happy and content will not defect. Another reason for not defecting is fear of being killed/destroyed for disloyalty.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 07 Aug 2011 20:09

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan aspires to send an astronaut on Chinese spacecraft

That is a very safe endeavour...the commie astro-nuts will go around Tiananmen square and fake it that they went around the earth...

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 07 Aug 2011 20:23

Pakistan aspires to send an astronaut on Chinese spacecraft

If Pakistan lasts for another four decades they will be aspiring to send an astronaut aboard a Nigerian spacecraft. Never their own.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Aug 2011 20:27

SSridhar wrote:Heard on NewsX channel just a while ago. ULFA Chief Arobindo Rajkhowa admits that TSP has been sending arms through Bangladesh to them since the 90s. Nothing that we didn't know, but this is the highest level of confirmation.

Only when all the information of all the means that Pakistan has used to attack India comes in can we begin to comprehend and get around the magnitude of the problem created by the formation of a pure Muslim state for "The Muslims of the subcontinent" who would forvever be antagonistic towards India.

No history ignorant Indian can comprehend this and it may not have happened to any other nation in recorded history

Wars, sponsorship of insurgencies in Punjab. Kashmir, Assam and Islamic movements in India, sponsorship of violence via Nepal, via Bangladesh, via China and via Dubai. Funding via Britain, Canada, USA. And for what reason? Just because India is India.

Anger is not the answer. Revenge is. I predict that Islam itself will take a hit for allowing Pakistan and excuse to do this.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 07 Aug 2011 20:35

shiv wrote:Another reason for not defecting is fear of being killed/destroyed for disloyalty.

I think this is the significant reason. It is the fear of what will happen to their immediate and extended families after defection that acts as deterrence. These guys know that first hand because they are the ones who do such things in the first place to others. Recently, there was a news item about a Pakistani embassy staff posing as an FBI agent and threatening Pakistanis in the US. ISI keeps a close tab on Pakistanis in other countries. The Pakistani tactic to catch a criminal is always to incarcerate the rest of the family and brutalize them. That was how Omar Saeed Sheikh was arrested after Daniel Pearl's murder. Everyone knows the impunity with which the angels operate as a 'state within the state'. Syed Saleem Shahzad's case is a very recent one. Recently, Najam Sethi has also expressed his fears about ISI for expressing his frank views. The CJP started with great fanfare the 'missing persons' case (several hundreds, all kidnapped by the intel agencies and never to be found again)which was one reason for the PA to remove him from power. Even that has fizzled out now. ISI is the most oppressive organization run like Hitler's SS.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Aug 2011 20:37

JwalaMukhi wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/International/nat ... d=14249189
American communities are mourning the loss of 30 U.S. troops who were killed when Afghan insurgents shot down a helicopter carrying the most elite forces in the US military -- Navy SEALs along with Air Force and Army personnel, U.S. officials said.

Saturday's crash occurred near a Taliban stronghold in Wardak province in Afghanistan.

On board the Chinook helicopter, there were 30 Americans -- including 22 SEALs, 8 Afghans and a dog trained specifically for special operations.
Is that part of paki army strategy of running with the bunnies and hunting with the kuttahs. Maybe, paki army fed the info to the talibs(paki army in salwar kameez) to take out the chinook.

Clearly there has been a massive intelligence failure for the US. Losing 22 special forces men is not a minor loss. But compared with the stupidity and callousness the US has shown in pushing Pakistan over an innocent India ("Oh but the US did it in its own interest") - the loss is minor. The US is so dumb that they may not learn even if they lose their entire component of spl forces to Paki perfidy. The US is the country that lost 60,000 men in Vietnam before they figured out that they were in the wrong place, supporting the wrong people for the wrong reasons. I watched this idiocy through my boyhood. The US will still think Pakistan is a friend and an ally. To that extent they deserve what they get.

The US is as Paki as Pakistanis when it comes to making a big echandee show. They are now getting into a lungi dance with, of all countries, Pakistan, whose ass they were licking till 1 year ago. Now they will stage a revenge raid that will be posted on all media for the rah rah rah part to show up again and make the US echandee jhanda fly again. After that it will be back to the usual stupidity. How can a country that refused to see the truth for 50 years suddenly wake up in 1 year?

Someone wake me up in 3 months and tell me if I am wrong.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 07 Aug 2011 20:40

India collectively needs to come to the conclusion that stick is the only language Pakis will understand.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Aug 2011 20:43

Dipanker wrote:India collectively needs to come to the conclusion that stick is the only language Pakis will understand.

But the US and China do not feel that way. they feel sucking up. paying protection money, mollycoddling Pakistan. and arming and supporting Pakistan against India is the right way. Do we or do we not want to be like the US and China "controlling" Pakistan?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 07 Aug 2011 20:48

ShauryaT wrote:
SSridhar wrote: This is one more proof of the PA having been taken over at least up to the level of mid-level officers (if not higher) and certainly at the level of foot soldiers, by the jihadi groups, especially HuJI.
The islam pasand officers indoctrinated since Zia times have reached at least the level of Brigadiers.

I disagree. The jihadism spread from top to down. How could TSPA be radicalized without the sanction of three and four star generals?

This sounds as if the top echelons of TSPA are secular. NO, they are as jihadists as everyone else.

JMHO

sum · Post by **sum** » 07 Aug 2011 20:48

If Pakistan lasts for another four decades they will be aspiring to send an astronaut aboard a Nigerian spacecraft. Never their own.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Aug 2011 21:09

I think Kupwara beheading and the Chinook shooting down are both common handlers:SSG and ISI.

I dont have data yet but such actions are hallmarks of TSP special forces.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 07 Aug 2011 21:12

shiv wrote:
Altair wrote:I have a fundamental question. Why is there not a single report of a Pakistani spy or Military General defect ever?
Altair that is a good question. A person who is happy and content will not defect. Another reason for not defecting is fear of being killed/destroyed for disloyalty.

Shiv
Even in KGB heydays spies defected. It is well known what kind of powerful spy apparatus KGB had then. So it cannot be fear of being killed for disloyalty alone. One more reason is in muslim communities there is always a "tauba,log kya kahenge" syndrome. I know muslims who are not doing "roja" right now during ramzan but pretend to their community that they actually are fasting. It is not easy to fast for 16 hours without taking something in. everybody takes something but they just dont say it. Its a public secret.You being a doctor must know that muslims dont visit much to hospitals or clinics during this month unless it is life threatening. It is community pressure.

So if these guys dont care about community then they enjoy what they are doing. They live in mansions and have fat swiss accounts. They get young virgin girls from the mountains to satisfy their lust. They drink the best international scotch. They are also well guarded. All paid by US Tax payers money. While hard working Americans work double jobs just to pay the bills, their president is writing checks for these wealthy spies and generals who are responsible for murder and genocide. Even if the money flow stops they can live for next couple of generations with the money they already have.
This is not a whine. This must change. Those mansions must be marked,lased and made a huge pile of rubble. I can estimate such targets not more than couple of hundred in Pakistan. 2 squadrons could finish the mission in a day. So why is US not doing what it did in Iraq? Once the bombing starts, we will get defectors knocking on our doors.
Altair

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Aug 2011 21:15

shiv wrote: Anger is not the answer. Revenge is. I predict that Islam itself will take a hit for allowing Pakistan and excuse to do this.

My stand on other forums is that since I've been called a hatemonger for saying {Pakistan is not equal to Islam}, henceforth, until a competent authority advises otherwise, Pakistan == Islam.

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Aug 2011 21:17

X Posted from the “Pakistan Arms Sales, Ops, Doctrine, etc.” thread.

Does the killing of Jihadi co-religionists during the Mohammadden holy month of Ramzan / Ramadan by the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan conform to the” Jihad Fi Sabilillah” or ”Jihad In The Path of Allah” part of their motto of “Iman Taqwa, Jihad Fi Sabilillah”

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Kurram operation leaves 6 more militants dead, 12 injured