The Jan Lokpal Bill, Anna Hazare, and Baba Ramdev II

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 23 Aug 2011 06:32

Anna's boss spoke highly of him, says historian

Pune: Congress spokesperson, Manish Tewari's caustic remarks against veteran Gandhian, Anna Hazare — that the latter had "deserted the army"— has left military historian Shashikant Menhendale fuming.

Menhendale had the rare fortune of knowing well both Hazare and his former boss, the late Major General YD Sahasrabudhe. During his 12-year stint with the Indian Army, Hazare was employed as a driver. In the Indo-Pak war of 1965, Hazare drove Sahasrabudhe's jeep.

"During my frequent interaction with the General, he used to talk in glowing terms about Anna's patriotic spirit and his bravery," recollected Menhendale. He recalled that Hazare's mettle was tested when he had to stand alongside the General as the latter directed an artillery attack on the enemy soldiers in Punjab.

After the war, both had expressed their desire to meet each other. However, the meeting happened only in 2008. "Although Sahasrabudhe used to stay in Ramnagar Colony in Bavdhan and Anna used to often visit Pune from Ralegan Siddhi, his busy schedule did not allow him to pay a visit to his former boss," Menhendale said.

In 2008, prior to embarking on his fast at the temple town of Alandi, Hazare had expressed a desire to visit the War Memorial in Pune Camp. "Seizing this opportunity, I informed Sahasrabudhe about Anna's visit and asked him to be present at the War Memorial," Menhendale said.

As soon as Hazare met his former boss at the memorial, he put on his trademark topi and gave a smart salute to the General. When an astonished Sahasrabudhe remonstrated, Hazare replied, "How can I forget that you were my former boss?" Menhendale recollected that both had tears in their eyes during the meeting.

Supporting Hazare's movement, Menhendale said, "On August 16, I had sent a message to Anna. I asked his personal assistant to tell Anna that he is now facing another battle of his life. This time, he is fighting internal enemies rather than external ones."

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 23 Aug 2011 06:39

There is a new side show in town. Aruna Roy who did not speak for the last 2 months has come up with a competing Lokpal Bill. Is any one following this?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 700516.cms

sumishi · Post by **sumishi** » 23 Aug 2011 06:55

rsingh wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIteV3yQ ... re=related

Now this is real stuff

They took it out for India

. Any other links, or has anyone downloaded it? I went through hidemyass dot com and at least could see the comments.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 23 Aug 2011 06:57

Congressi thug Singhvi walks out of Times now
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide ... 699084.cms

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 23 Aug 2011 07:01

Naga groups stand up for Hazare
OUR CORRESPONDENT

Kohima, Aug. 22: Anna Hazare’s campaign against corruption has reached Nagaland with several organisations coming out to support his cause.

The Naga Council, the All Sumi Students’ Union, the BJP and several non-Naga organisations have extended their support to Hazare on Jan Lokpal Bill.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1110823/j ... 409392.jsp

On Sunday in Imphal [Manipur] a massive candle light rally was carried out in the heart supporting Anna Hazare's anti-graft movement.

http://www.morungexpress.com/regional/69776.html

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 23 Aug 2011 07:09

All those who dissent have the obligation to listen: Aruna Roy - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/all-t ... y/835688/2

But then when Team Anna offers to listen she does not want to talk. Why did she not accept Kejriwal's offer to explain her points at Ramlila?

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 23 Aug 2011 07:11

Pranav wrote:All those who dissent have the obligation to listen: Aruna Roy - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/all-t ... y/835688/2

But then when Team Anna offers to listen she does not want to talk. Why did she not accept Kejriwal's offer to explain her points at Ramlila?

Looks more and more like a Congressi paid group appointed to muddle waters.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 23 Aug 2011 07:12

Miffed at Lalu’s comments, RJD MLA quits party

Express news service Posted: Tue Aug 23 2011, 01:50 hrs New Delhi:

Asif Mohammad Khan, the sole RJD MLA from Delhi, has become the first politician to quit his party in support of Anna Hazare. Speaking to Newsline, Khan said he was “hurt” at the use of “unparliamentary language against Annaji” by his former party chief, Lalu Prasad Yadav.

“I submitted my resignation this morning. I have been forced to take this step since Laluji, who has always taken a strong stand against communalism, chose to side with those promoting corruption. I have been inspired by Annaji’s ideas, so I contacted his team yesterday,”said Khan, MLA from Okhla in South Delhi.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/miffe ... ty/835679/

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 23 Aug 2011 07:16

sumishi wrote:
rsingh wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIteV3yQ ... re=related

Now this is real stuff
They took it out for India . Any other links, or has anyone downloaded it? I went through hidemyass dot com and at least could see the comments.

This seems to work from India - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXvY_FcrYhQ

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Aug 2011 07:18

James B wrote:Muslim bodies back Anna's cause

Muslims who have largely stayed away from Anna Hazare's movement so far, are now likely to take part in it following the celebrated Islamic seminary, Darul Uloom, Deoband, coming out in its support and Imarat Shariah, a highly respected religious body of Bihar, also supporting the issues raised by the Gandhian leader.

Here's bukhari in his normal and true colors

Why didn't these morons depart in 1947, it was such a short trip.??

If Anna is secular, why are Muslims not included in his group? Bukhari

The Imam also pointed out that slogans of 'Vande Mataram' and 'Bharat Mata ki Jai', that were a staple of Anna's campaign, did not make Muslims any comfortable.

"He did not fast for a day, when Muslims were killed in Gujarat in 2002. We never heard from him when anti-Muslim riots happened in his home state's capital Mumbai. He could at least have made an effort to involve the community. We are hurt by this," said Bukhari.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 23 Aug 2011 07:21

Next door at LN Hospital, 3 newborn Annas, 1 Hazare - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/next- ... re/835683/

500 destitute kids skip food to send Anna Rs 19,140 - http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/MAH-PU ... 72987.html

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 23 Aug 2011 07:34

Several prominent muslims have come out against the shahi Bikari's statement.
I remember a scene from the movie Sarfarosh where Amir Khan tells a muslim inspector who is reluctant to fight (as his loyalty is suspected) that if he believes it is his country as well, he needes to fight against the ills of the society.
Common muslims today are clearly on Anna's side and not with crooks and thugs like Imam Bikari, Soz and Rashid Alvi.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Aug 2011 07:44

Thats not enough Anantha ji. They have to get rid of those shackles and come out open to protect their India. What are they afraid of? If 800 million of Ummah out-castes them, they will will be winning 800 million Bharatiya brothers.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Aug 2011 08:04

Anantha wrote:Congressi thug Singhvi walks out of Times now
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide ... 699084.cms

Does he think its Lok Sabha?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Aug 2011 08:05

dont worry, they are on the train. the likes of bukhari do not wield much power anymore.

INC spokesmen think because of their Doon school and mayo college background people should listen to them even if they talk nonsense and tell lies - maybe thats the scene in Sonia durbar but not in real world ... remember the band of simians in Mowgli animation film and their King Louie

Fidel Guevara · Post by **Fidel Guevara** » 23 Aug 2011 08:11

RamaY wrote:^ That is like saying Duryodhan gives up his kimgdom to Pandavas after Uttar Gow-Grahan episode.

Duryodhan was a mighty warrior and powerful leader, regardless of his ethics. And it was HIS kingdom, not his mother's and grandmother's supposed fiefdom.

However this guy is Amul Baby, way different from other dynasty heirs, such as Uday Hussein and Basher Assad. Show weakness and he will push forward, but a big show of strength will cause such people to bow down. He doesn't have the innate "I am God/Allah/Bhagwan" that characterizes other dynastic heirs.

Think of brass knuckles, Dilli style. "Daarao, ya daar jao" (Intimidate him, or get intimidated by him, no middle ground). RG is the guy who will likely get intimidated, all other things being equal. He just doesn't have the b@lls, nowhere near Anna, IMHO.

niran · Post by **niran** » 23 Aug 2011 08:38

Rapid action force being deployed at Ramlila ground, methinks by nightfall there shall be some
incident and on pretext of tackling miscreants Ramlila ground will be cleared,
if that happens then what? is the big question.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Aug 2011 08:46

Fidel Guevara wrote:
RamaY wrote:^ That is like saying Duryodhan gives up his kimgdom to Pandavas after Uttar Gow-Grahan episode.
Duryodhan was a mighty warrior and powerful leader, regardless of his ethics. And it was HIS kingdom, not his mother's and grandmother's supposed fiefdom.
O.

Ooooo. Pls help me understand how it became HIS kingdom? Also kindly educate me on how he is a MIGHTY warrior and POWERFULL leader?

What kingdoms he won, what warriors he defeated?

RG too is exactly like Duryodhana, too reliant on INC system and people's respect for MKG legacy. But too arrogant to understand that. Remember his statements

- his grandma won 1971 war
- if INC was in power post-godhra riots wouldn't have happened
- Hindus are a bigger threat to india than Islamic terrorism

And so on...

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 23 Aug 2011 09:23

rajanb: I have a post for you in the OT thread. I think I promised you that

ks das · Post by **ks das** » 23 Aug 2011 09:50

This chotu Gandhi never comes to attend public debates. Makes too many promises and never fulfills. Has never been a minister or held a post of responsibility yet. No social work. Sometimes contradicts himself in successive speeches. Automatically gets credit for every good thing in Northern India. Knowingly or unknowingly enjoys fruits of good deeds of others.

I have the same fear which everyone has, once he comes in picture as a mediator in between Anna fellows and the govt. everything will be hijacked. Mr Anna will be reduced to image of an agitator and Rahul will be projected as the enabler. It will make the media happy too. The best time I see to introduce him is to let Anna get hospitalized. Then send Chotu + media. This will automatically save chotu from an unfortunate but plausible chappal attack and enable uninterrupted coverage of the emotional scene. Rahul Gandhi's absence was the second best thing that happened to strengthen Anna's movement. First was his arrest.

If Chotu fails this time, or if something happens to Mrs Sonia Gandhi(she retires from politics after coming from USA), then congress will surely try to bring in Priyanka. Priyanka is even more dear to people than Chotu. The cunning con-gressies always try to select weakest/gullible people as leaders. They try to make them PM and then get a chance of free looting the nation.

Even the congressies know Chotu is a burden. Most of the time when Chotu is let to speak by himself the congressies have to come and clarify afterwards. He damages the reputation of every cause he has supported. Congress experienced abject failure in states he campaigned.

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 23 Aug 2011 09:57

Pranav wrote: This seems to work from India - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXvY_FcrYhQ

Both video links have the same monotone, broken and accent-less voice audio. Makes the viewer suspect and ridicule the content.

Edited: The source of the video is non-Anglo background. Thanks for the clarification on the software.

Vishwabandhu Gupta is partly right with his assessment of the situation about reach of this movement. The junior brass of Delhi police seem to give tacit approval to this movement according to him.

habal · Post by **habal** » 23 Aug 2011 10:05

Fidel Guevara wrote:RG is the guy who will likely get intimidated, all other things being equal. He just doesn't have the b@lls, nowhere near Anna, IMHO.

it seems unlikely. having seen a bit of RG in UP it doesn't give me the impression that he lacks a will to fight. But maybe more that because he was born with a silver spoon and has always been around power, he doesn't covet the prize which is the gaddi.

Fidel Guevara · Post by **Fidel Guevara** » 23 Aug 2011 10:11

RamaY wrote:
Fidel Guevara wrote:
Duryodhan was a mighty warrior and powerful leader, regardless of his ethics. And it was HIS kingdom, not his mother's and grandmother's supposed fiefdom.
O.
Ooooo. Pls help me understand how it became HIS kingdom? Also kindly educate me on how he is a MIGHTY warrior and POWERFULL leader?

What kingdoms he won, what warriors he defeated?

RG too is exactly like Duryodhana, too reliant on INC system and people's respect for MKG legacy. But too arrogant to understand that. Remember his statements

- his grandma won 1971 war
- if INC was in power post-godhra riots wouldn't have happened
- Hindus are a bigger threat to india than Islamic terrorism

And so on...

OT/
Duryodhona was physically stronger than everybody except Bhim. His skills with the mace was superior to Bhim. As a warrior, he is deemed equal to Bhim. As a leader he amassed a huge army and many great allies - Bhishma, Karna, Dronacharya, and other kings/conquered vassals. /OT

M point is that RG has this inflated sense of entitlement, but is he willing to fight for it till the end (as Duryadhona was, and other recent dynastic heirs)...I think not

sumishi · Post by **sumishi** » 23 Aug 2011 10:23

Klaus wrote:
Pranav wrote: This seems to work from India - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXvY_FcrYhQ
Both video links have the same monotone, broken and accent-less voice audio. Makes the viewer suspect and ridicule the content.

Vishwabandhu Gupta is partly right with his assessment of the situation about reach of this movement. The junior brass of Delhi police seem to give tacit approval to this movement according to him.

Its using reader software to translate written text to speech, it seems.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 23 Aug 2011 10:34

Would like to read raja ram ji's take on the lokpal, where is he nowadays

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 23 Aug 2011 10:44

Both video links have the same monotone, broken and accent-less voice audio. Makes the viewer suspect and ridicule the content.

The narrator is scared of being identified . I mean who would want to get into the wrong side of these people?

Lot of content may be right.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Aug 2011 11:11

God men holding key-involved to resolve crisis

Sri Sri R Shankar

and

Bhaiyyu ji maharaj

spiritual guru of Anna

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/lokpa ... ene-128328

Congress pressurising Rahul to intervene

Anna frail to point he can't address people any more

Loud speakers have been shut down in ram lila ground

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 23 Aug 2011 12:25

Nice articles about the atmosphere of the movement and the reactions of the leftist elites. Worth a read.

We should be there: The Left and the Anna moment - http://www.firstpost.com/politics/we-sh ... 65356.html

Scenes from Ramlila Maidan: Wake up Manmohan Singh - http://www.firstpost.com/politics/scene ... 66781.html

We wondered at the arrogance and cynicism that can only see communalism and casteism in these protests. The arrogance of the ‘Enlightened’ – who can only deal with ‘the masses’ as long as they are an abstract category and shrink in horror when confronted with them in reality. We kept thinking of the hundreds of thousands of people participating in the movement. So many of them – easily the huge majority – were semi-literate workers or peasants. The ‘great unwashed’. These darzis and kisans are largely OBCs, against whom the anti-Mandal agitation took place. They are all there in pretty large numbers even if it is in their name now that the pious, pure Left stays immured in its fortress.

niran · Post by **niran** » 23 Aug 2011 12:32

IndraD wrote: Anna frail to point he can't address people any more

Loud speakers have been shut down in ram lila ground

Anna after 17 hours addressed the crowd, and spoke long
loud speakers were used,
Bhayuji Maharaj and his ilk has been dismissed by Team Anna as time wasters
today Team Anna clarified Anna never said he will speak with RG or MMS
as one unnamed person gave a press conference, he said he will talk to a responsible
person with powers onlee, so there goes down the gutter talks of RG this and RG that.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 23 Aug 2011 12:33

Anti-Anna voices grow louder

Voices against Anna Hazare, so far inaudible in the course of his high-decibel campaign, are getting louder. A section of civil society activists, Dalit leaders and some legal experts are gearing up to counter the Hazare wave. Their gripe: Hazare’s movement is teetering on the edge of “fascism”.

Udit Raj, a Dalit heavyweight (ghanta heavyweight, Mayawati now is she a heavyweight) and head of the All-India Confederation of SC/ST Organisations, will storm India Gate on August 24 with followers to launch his ‘Save the Constitution’ movement. It is aimed at opposing Hazare.

Driven largely by urban folks, the ‘Anna wave’ has laid itself bare to charges of being an upper-caste mobilisation, alienating Dalits and Muslims. The right-wing Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh's open support has only reinforced that notion. (this is the opinion of the writer)

On Monday, human rights activist Shabnam Hashmi kicked off a protest in Mumbai. She called Hazare’s movement “violent” and is set to travel to several states to garner support. “For anybody to say ‘accept Jan Lokpal bill in 18 days flat’ is a violent statement. Violence needn't be physical alone,” Hashmi told HT.

Those who supported Hashmi’s views in Mumbai included Ram Puniyani, who years ago quit a teaching job at the Indian Institute of Technology, Mumbai, to fight rightwing organisations.

“Bills and law-making are not two-minute noodles," Hashmi added. Hazare’s campaign has also riled Dalit leaders because it is being seen militating against the Constitution, crafted by India's most well-known Dalit, BR Ambedkar. (again writer's opinion, buy that logic congres headquarter should be burnt for modifying constitution so many times and for imposing emergency)

“No doubt corruption is rampant. But the fight against it should not undermine the Constitution made by Dr Ambedkar. Why is there not a single representation from Dalits, or backwards or minorities in Team Anna?” Raj, also the chief of Justice Party, asks.

Veteran Dalit leaders such as Anand Teltumbde accuse Hazare of demanding creation of an unaccountable post of ombudsman with sweeping powers, to be chosen by a few worthies.

“Hazare is indulging in demagogic, blackmailing tactics,” Teltumbde said.

“The ultimate aim of man," says filmmaker Mahesh Bhatt, “is to play God. Anna is succumbing to that temptation.” Bhatt is set to join Hashmi to publicise the “hazards” of what he calls is an “undemocratic uprising”.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Aug 2011 12:34

IAC should have a website to direct all credible communications from Team Anna to the general public. Else, rumors and other mischief will happen only.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 23 Aug 2011 12:38

Fidel Guevara wrote:Say the worst case happens, and this is the vehicle for RG to come to power in 2014. Assume MMS is sidelined, and Antonia passes away.

Having seen the mood of the people, how likely is RG to allow the Cong to function in the "business as usual" mode? I think he would at least attempt to clean things up somewhat...at least the mega-scams might be less likely.

Please tell me what clean up has he done so far, he apart from official position has all the power in the world. In fact the present PM has accepted in a Public speech that he takes "ADESH" from Yuvraj.

Even the basic promise which he made since 2004, That Youth Congress( a relatively small group of die hard COngress supporters) has not been cleaned, you expect him to clean up somthing which his family has been part of for the last 60 years????

But seriously, although RG will be made a hero accepting the Bill and then giving juice, he will not takeover in a situation where Govtis facing Huge defecit, slowing growth and inflationary pressures. Apart from poor economic news world over.

What the Congress strategy would be is let things meadour until 2014, let a weak third front government supported from outside be formed. Let goverance meadour for anther 2 years. The world economy would then stabilize by 2016 and then pull the rug under Third govt in 2016. RG would then take over.

Meanwhile, Media will used to create a fear psyosis in minorities along with exposing only BJP leaders involved in corruption reports etc. to make sure BJP does not gain in the meantime.

eg. Karnataka lokyuta report clearly states Illegal mining has been going since 2000 and since 2004 has been shipped accross the Andhra state. Much of the illegal mining also happens across the Andhra border where there is conviently like Maharastra - No Lokyuta. Also many Congress MP have been mentioned in the said report.

See how only Yeddy and Reddy bros involvement has been highlighted in this whole issue.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 23 Aug 2011 12:40

SwamyG wrote:rajanb: I have a post for you in the OT thread. I think I promised you that

Responded to your lovely post

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 23 Aug 2011 12:44

Reg. the two Roys and Aruna/Arundathi and their observations and criticisms of AH's movement against corruption,what were these two beauties doing all this while?AH has taken the country by storm,predominantly the ordinary people,the one's most affected by the cancer of corruption and these worthies are feeling peeved at being left out on the sidelines! While Aruna has at least offered some modifications-belatedly,for consideration,the other prima donna,who much resembles the "Red Queen" in Alice in Wonderland,says "off with his head" to the neo-Gandhian crusader against corruption!

Without shooting the messenger,one statement made by the "Red Queen" (pun intended,given her predilection for Naxalites,Maoists and their ilk),that chaos might erupt is food for thought.But why? We must first ask who has brought the nation to this state of crisis and the blame for that rests solely with the two-term leadership of MMS and especially his UPA-2.Where was Arundathi Roy all this while? Silent! She is found these days mostly amidst her chatteratti and gliterratti pals who are divorced from the true reality of India today.As a celebrity,held in esteem more abroad than in India as any one venting their anger against their homeland is a boon to the western interlopers and their neo-Inperialist agenda (where is Arundathi on the illegal Libyan war,or manipulation of other events in the Arab world?), needing these mouthpieces which in many instances they covertly finance,so that at an opportune time they can intervene and orchestrate events using these mouthpieces as an excuse.The Red Queen at this juncture in time is merely masturbatiung her ego in public to grab attention,like an exhibitionist in a strip club!

Anna H however is astride the tiger and if as an editorial (in the Hindu I think) that gave a grudging praise for the "non-violent" nature of it so far,might find that if the GOI hardens its heart like Pharaoh of yore,India's Moses might very well end up in the casualty ward and the dear Lord forbid if anything worse happens,then the movement might very well take more inspiration from the likes of Bhagat Singh and Netaji instead of Mahatma Gandhi! As I wrote before,the writing is on the wall, MMS and RG,the days of the UPA are numbered!

PS: As for the Left.Not too long ago,before the latest fast by AH, I was in the company of a v.distinguished editor and the topic of the Left came up.I told him that the nation required leadership right now and sadly the Left was out of touch with events.Unless it reinvented itself just as Putin has done in Russia,where Russian interests are the first priority,they would grow more irrelevant.It is astonishing that the Left did not "seize the day" as AH has done,as traditionally,they have donned the mantle of protecting the rights of the downtrodden and those afflicted by the state.As a still not insignificant member of the Opposition,it is past time for them to join hands with other nationalist parties and ensure that the people's faith in parliament is not displaced.Plowing their lonely furrow will only see a divided Opposition taken advantage by the UPA/Congress and the situ might get chaotic suiting the "foreign hands " which seek to destabilise India.

One unanswered Q.Is there any coincidence between the Indian uprising and those in the Arab world? Are we being manipulated or are outside elements making use of the opportnuity which the UPA has presented them with?

PPS:Britain's secret role in Libya.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ipoli.html

Libya: secret role played by Britain creating path to the fall of Tripoli
The key role played by Britain in equipping and advising Libya’s rebel fighters for their final push on Tripoli was becoming clear last night as Col Muammar Gaddafi’s remaining forces staged a last stand around his bunker.

chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 23 Aug 2011 12:52

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suryag · Post by **suryag** » 23 Aug 2011 12:55

corruption king vilasrao deshmukh to talk to AH

Dhiman · Post by **Dhiman** » 23 Aug 2011 13:04

CRamS wrote:I know Adhothi's views were posted earlier, but I don't know if this particular article is

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article2379704.ece

She predicts a civil war

This awful crisis has been forged out of the utter failure of India's representative democracy, in which the legislatures are made up of criminals and millionaire politicians who have ceased to represent its people. In which not a single democratic institution is accessible to ordinary people. Do not be fooled by the flag waving. We're watching India being carved up in war for suzerainty that is as deadly as any battle being waged by the warlords of Afghanistan, only with much, much more at stake.

As far as I know she has predicted civil war in India at least twice before without being deterred by the fact that each of her civil war predictions have failed. Although, there seems to be some merit in her statement that NGO's should be brought under LokPal. Lot of shady things happen in the name of NGOs.

Dhiman · Post by **Dhiman** » 23 Aug 2011 13:17

Philip wrote: One unanswered Q.Is there any coincidence between the Indian uprising and those in the Arab world? Are we being manipulated or are outside elements making use of the opportnuity which the UPA has presented them with?

The principal members of this Anna movement appear to be reliable characters + Ramdev is as much of a "son-of-the-soil" as they can be. So IMO, there is no direct foreign influence here. This is purely a home grown phenomenon.

However, uncle Sam does seem to be doing a lot of free money printing these days. Money that is finding its way into global commodity markets and hence causing global inflation. Although some would say that given its economic situation, unkil does not have a choice, but to print free money. The point being that there is a direct and well-known correlation between inflation and public unrest among other factors. That is the only foreign hand that I can see.

What I am surprised at is that idots in Kangress are either completely out of touch with the common masses of this country or don't care or are plain downright stupid. A government in touch with people would never have let the situation degenerate up to a point where mass protests are necessary.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 23 Aug 2011 13:37

The total power without accountability arrangement that the INC's primary parivar enjoys has proven itself to be so successful that no dynastic will wanna touch the kursi anymore when the remmote control in hand is proven and handy.

Heck, even Zardari went on to express his sincere desire to become the 'Sonia Gandhi of Pakistan'. All this talk of RG staging a stunning coup after joining hands with Anna against his own govt inorder to ascend the PM throne and all is far-fetched only. I see no reason why any G will wanna become PM anymore.

James B · Post by **James B** » 23 Aug 2011 13:44

A while ago some jingoes asked for it, there you go

Rajinikanth: Very able leader in Anna Hazare

In his message of support to Hazare's cause, Rajinikanth said he "whole-heartedly supports the India Against Corruption Movement in their campaign to get Jan Lokpal bill legislated in Parliament."

"I congratulate all the Indians who have lent their support to this bloodless revolution. This kind of peaceful movement is possible only in India which is the birthplace of Satyagraha. I am very proud to be an Indian."