Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 05, 2011

pradeepe · Post by **pradeepe** » 26 Aug 2011 09:03

Blasphemy! There you go: live and let folks

India and Pakistan should learn to live with each other’s positions and talk so that “issues” between the two countries do not pass on to the next generation, Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar has said.

partha · Post by **partha** » 26 Aug 2011 11:25

http://www.dawn.com/2011/08/26/shahbaz- ... ahore.html

Salman Taseer’s son Shahbaz kidnapped from Lahore

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 26 Aug 2011 11:37

wajib-ul-cutlet time.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 26 Aug 2011 11:57

JE Menon wrote:wajib-ul-cutlet time.

Will he be Qadrified or be subjected to Ziba?

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 26 Aug 2011 12:00

Aditya_V wrote:
JE Menon wrote:wajib-ul-cutlet time.
Will he be Qadrified or be subjected to Ziba?

Does that matter? it is all part of the purification process.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 26 Aug 2011 12:01

That tertiary number of India is completely wrong. We had discussed this in education thread a while back.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40 ... opout.jpg/

Our Tenth is technically tertiary or High school in Massaland. At least 40% of Indians attend 10th though not all pass. At least 30% attend Twelfth. And a final 13% get some sort of 3-4-5 year degree. That 5.8% number for India is pulled out of his Musharaff.

The number of engineers produced annually in one state TN (about 1.2 lakhs) is about 4 times the entire engineer output of the entire TSP.

Not only that, he doesn't mention that the entire HEC (Higher Education Commission) was essentially dismantled and defunded this year due to money problems. (Crore commanders wanted more). Where are the PG's & Phd's going to come to teach anyone.

All in all it is Pindi Lifafa article.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 26 Aug 2011 15:35

Not only that, he doesn't mention that the entire HEC (Higher Education Commission) was essentially dismantled and defunded this year due to money problems. (Crore commanders wanted more). Where are the PG's & Phd's going to come to teach anyone.

All in all it is Pindi Lifafa article.

Theo ji , vaat you taaking about? Don't bious mards like Hafeez Saeed teach in Pin-djineering madarssas? bakistan is 400% overflowing with ulemas , maulvis -- full of Phake-ulti

Theo saar...I have a education related question (unrelated to TSP) that I ll post in tech and education forum...

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 26 Aug 2011 15:49

couple of years back there was a post here citing that most phds in tsp are in subjects like theology.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Aug 2011 15:51

shaardula wrote:couple of years back there was a post here citing that most phds in tsp are in subjects like theology.

phd==piled higher and deeper??

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 26 Aug 2011 15:53

shaardula wrote:couple of years back there was a post here citing that most phds in tsp are in subjects like theology.

I remember someone researching djinns too... Kid you not...

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 26 Aug 2011 15:57

Aditya_V wrote:
JE Menon wrote:wajib-ul-cutlet time.
Will he be Qadrified or be subjected to Ziba?

Which ever way hopefully they will make a video and share it widely.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 26 Aug 2011 16:21

shaardula wrote:couple of years back there was a post here citing that most phds in tsp are in subjects like theology.

Yes, generally called "Islamic Studies" (covered everything from Koran studies to how to wage jihad in kafir nations) leading to a glut of PhDs in the highly eductaed nation.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Aug 2011 17:00

From Such Gup of TFT

A high official of the Obama administration held forth at a select gathering in Washington DC recently about the burgeoning relationship between the US and India. He laid out the huge canvas of cooperation, military as well as civilian, and the massive amounts of money involved in Indo-US business exchanges, defence deals and technology transfers. One example was a workshop undertaken by US Air Force scientists in India recently which "will end up being the largest bilateral technological cooperation in the world". The high official also spoke about the potential scope of the Indo-US relationship. "When you see a vacant lot in prime real estate in an American city, you think it remains empty for a long time. Actually, it's not empty. A lot of work is going on behind the scenes. When building commences, you suddenly notice that a huge skyscraper goes up in no time at all. That's precisely because of the painstaking and meticulous work that was done for a long time on building a secure and durable foundation". That's what the Indo-US relationship will look like before long, he predicted. At the end of the talk, as the participants milled around, one official let slip that the Indo-US relationship is of "great concern" to Pakistan's military leadership. And that they often raise it as an issue in meetings with their American counterparts. The official said the Pakistan military has a "litany of emotional complaints". Hum ko un say wafa ki hai umeed jo naheen jantay wafa kya hai? Cynics say this could apply equally to both sides.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Aug 2011 17:19

SSridhar wrote:From Such Gup of TFT
A high official of the Obama administration held forth at a select gathering in Washington DC recently about the burgeoning relationship between the US and India. He laid out the huge canvas of cooperation, military as well as civilian, and the massive amounts of money involved in Indo-US business exchanges, defence deals and technology transfers. One example was a workshop undertaken by US Air Force scientists in India recently which "will end up being the largest bilateral technological cooperation in the world". The high official also spoke about the potential scope of the Indo-US relationship. "When you see a vacant lot in prime real estate in an American city, you think it remains empty for a long time. Actually, it's not empty. A lot of work is going on behind the scenes. When building commences, you suddenly notice that a huge skyscraper goes up in no time at all. That's precisely because of the painstaking and meticulous work that was done for a long time on building a secure and durable foundation". That's what the Indo-US relationship will look like before long, he predicted. At the end of the talk, as the participants milled around, one official let slip that the Indo-US relationship is of "great concern" to Pakistan's military leadership. And that they often raise it as an issue in meetings with their American counterparts. The official said the Pakistan military has a "litany of emotional complaints". Hum ko un say wafa ki hai umeed jo naheen jantay wafa kya hai? Cynics say this could apply equally to both sides.

The octopus grip will quickly and simply just materialize one fine day?

Thanks to MMS??

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 26 Aug 2011 17:46

Hot off the presses...
Pakistani slain governor Salman Taseer's son abducted

The son of assassinated Punjab governor Salman Taseer, who was killed in January for opposing the blasphemy law, has been abducted, Pakistan police say.

Shahbaz Taseer's car was intercepted by four men in Lahore city's upscale Gulberg area on Friday.

subodh · Post by **subodh** » 26 Aug 2011 18:14

ArmenT wrote:Hot off the presses...
Pakistani slain governor Salman Taseer's son abducted
The son of assassinated Punjab governor Salman Taseer, who was killed in January for opposing the blasphemy law, has been abducted, Pakistan police say.

Shahbaz Taseer's car was intercepted by four men in Lahore city's upscale Gulberg area on Friday.

Another secular gazhi gets to meet the real ones. Hope all parties enjoy the encounter.

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Aug 2011 19:54

The Wall Street Journal reports that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s foreign policy elite “continue to view India’s engagements in Afghanistan as going beyond development and challenging Islamabad’s interests in the country”:

News Flash! India Still Pakistan’s Bogeyman

The cited USIP report is here:

Pakistan, the United States and the End Game in Afghanistan: Perceptions of Pakistan’s Foreign Policy Elite

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Aug 2011 20:01

X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

Teen originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan arrested in the so called “Jihad Jane” Islamic Terrorist plot in the US:

Source: Teen in US custody in 'Jihad Jane' plot

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 26 Aug 2011 20:10

if some one has missed this.
pure popcorn fun.
Zaid Hamid and Marvi sirmed have a go at each other.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Aug 2011 20:40

arun wrote:The Wall Street Journal reports that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s foreign policy elite “continue to view India’s engagements in Afghanistan as going beyond development and challenging Islamabad’s interests in the country”:

Pakistan's view of India as 'enemy no 1' and its desire to destroy India is deeper then even the China-Pak friendship. It is permanent & immutable.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 26 Aug 2011 20:56

It is, one of them has famously pointed out, their "raisin dieter" ...

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 26 Aug 2011 21:57

From the Nation (posting in full). Keep an eye on this material crossing over to India. AFAIK, this material was also used in the recent bombing in Mumbai.

Ammonium nitrate smuggling from Pak of concern: US General

Submitted 7 hrs 23 mins ago
A top American general in Afghanistan has expressed serious concern over the continued smuggling of ammonium nitrate, a key ingredient for making bombs, from Pakistan into the strife-torn country. Army Major General Daniel Allyn, Commanding General, Regional Command East, Afghanistan told Pentagon reporters in a video conference that ammonium nitrate was being smuggled across the border from Pakistan and in large quantities. "In fact, Afghan Uniform Police this past week conducted two independent operations responding to intelligence from their own sources, and captured two different shipments totaling over 5,750 kilograms of ammonium nitrate," he said. Ammonium nitrate is a key content for explosives and its smuggling to an insurgency-hit country is obviously a matter of worry.

"So those types of operations are focused on interdicting the flow of manpower, weapons and equipment across the border from whatever their originating source might be," he said in response to a question. Allyn, however, said the Afghan government and security forces in his area of operation continue to grow in capability and confidence, allowing them to build upon security conditions and deliver essential services to the people. "Tactically, along with our security force partners, we have kept the pressure on insurgent networks, cleared several support zones and, in the process, strengthened the leadership and capability of our Afghan partners," he said.

"A side effect of this pressure on the insurgent networks is the ruthless, desperate and inexplicable actions of insurgents against the people of Afghanistan," he said. The General said their blatant disregard for the Afghan people manifests itself in suicide attacks that predominantly target innocent civilians, and ill-disciplined direct and indirect fire attacks that brutalise population centres. "Over the past 90 days, 85 to 90 per cent of Afghan civilian casualties are caused by insurgent violence. As a result, more and more communities are becoming inhospitable to insurgent influence and cohabitation. "We see increased cooperation between the Afghan people, the local government and the security forces who serve them," Allyn said.

"In terms of stability environment for the international workers, obviously, just as we are focused on providing security for the Afghan people, we are focused on expanding the stable environment for the international workers, as well as the Afghan people, to go about their business and achieve a state of normalcy. And that is improving, albeit not as fast as any of us would prefer," Allyn said.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 26 Aug 2011 22:39

ArmenT wrote:Hot off the presses...
Pakistani slain governor Salman Taseer's son abducted
The son of assassinated Punjab governor Salman Taseer, who was killed in January for opposing the blasphemy law, has been abducted, Pakistan police say.

Shahbaz Taseer's car was intercepted by four men in Lahore city's upscale Gulberg area on Friday.

Is he not the one who had to undergo groping by TSA in massa airport on honeymoon?

BajKhedawal · Post by **BajKhedawal** » 26 Aug 2011 23:07

^^^

I can understand why a businessman would carry the following items 24/7 on his person: 3 cellphones, an Ipad, a laptop, and a gun, but a passport - ready to scoot out of pakistan when things get hot, hain jee!

Why the heck did he not use his gunna? must be a staged encounter to escape the good/bad taliban's wrath. He will reappear in londonistan or chinaistan or whitepakistan down under.

On second thoughts he may have been working for Blackwater (XE Services) and ISI abducted him in their black SUV.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 26 Aug 2011 23:08

Teen in US custody in ‘Jihad Jane’ plot
Take a guess. Is the teen of paki origin?

A US teen from Pakistan (note: not a paki) is in secret US custody, accused of trying to help recruit terrorists for a woman known as “Jihad Jane,” according to a source close to the family.

....17-year-old of helping Colleen LaRose in her alleged efforts to incite an Islamic holy war

Yes he is. Jo LaWhore mein.....,Woh Amrika mein bhi....

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 26 Aug 2011 23:15

Qaeda firmly rooted in Pakistan tribal fiefdom: report

With his well-groomed hair, shaven face and delicate hint of aftershave, Al-Qaeda logistician Abu Salman has operated for years in Pakistan’s badlands with little fear of detection.

Despite the long years of conflict, the terror network’s reign of fear is too rooted for the Pakistani army or US missiles to dislodge.

he turns up the music on the car stereo and lights a cigarette. And with this simple indulgence of vices denounced by extremist adherents of Islam, he evades suspicion.

Another trick is to leave an English-language newspaper — the ultimate trapping of a secular-minded Pakistani gentleman — lying on the passenger seat.

Officially he is a car dealer.

He personifies the success that Al-Qaeda has found in Pakistan

“Al-Qaeda has been pretty much driven out of Afghanistan, but it got stronger in Pakistan,”

Responsible for providing food and medication, he shops for energy drinks such as Red Bull, which he claims are “very popular” among fighters.

Abu Salman claims that “more and more Pakistanis want to join up”And, not just for the Red Bull drink..

Wearing traditional Pakistani clothes, long hair and beards, turbans and a Kalashnikov slung over their shoulder, the foreigners are almost indistinguishable from the tribesmen whose daughters they marry.“Their skin is often lighter, thinner and taller if they’re Arabs and they walk differently”

RajeshG · Post by **RajeshG** » 26 Aug 2011 23:31

Regarding the usage of the term "secular ghazi" i wanted to mention the audio tape posted by Arun.

The interesting thing about that audio is that none of the participants had anything to do with secularism by even a long stretch. I recognize that people think about different things when it comes to secularism but none of the participants had anything remotely to do with any definition of secularism. None of the participants talk about insaniyat (humanity) for eg.

The fauji for eg doesnt just ask "why are you killing women and children" ? He always attaches that with a quote from Hadith or Quran as he understands it. The maulvi on his part argues his case by correcting the fauji with more Islamic quotes and sometimes asserting that fauji has no clue about Quran/Hadith.

The reason I mention this is that the day of whiskey swilling secular ghazi might be gone. The fauji feels compelled to argue his case or ask questions with proper Islamic support and shuts his mouth when maulvi says "But the Rasool did the same thing as talibs are doing now". Its all a theological orgy now.

AoA.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 26 Aug 2011 23:33

pgbhat wrote: [Shahbaz Taseer]:
Is he not the one who had to undergo groping by TSA in massa airport on honeymoon?

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 011_pg7_23

AdityaM · Post by **AdityaM** » 26 Aug 2011 23:44

mohtarma thinks she is bibi bhutto

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 26 Aug 2011 23:48

From the timesofindia version of the abduction:

"A black SUV, white corolla and a motorbike sped through the area and made a sharp turn, which resulted in a Kalashnikov dropping out of one of the cars," a traffic warden in the area told a TV channel.

Talk about being armed to the teeth

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 27 Aug 2011 01:12

AdityaM wrote:mohtarma thinks she is bibi bhutto

watch the video at 19:10
methinks she is now wajib-ul-cutlet onlee .

subodh · Post by **subodh** » 27 Aug 2011 01:50

RajeshG

I used the term 'secular gazhi' half in jest -

- a secular gazhi in my book is someone who is full of islamic fervour, and loves killing hindoos more than anything else - his jeehard is directed more towards india, and he is willing to be clean shaven and whiskey swilling in order to further those objectives.

-a real, glorious gazhi makes no such distinctions - he loves killing the hindoo as much as the secular gazhi, but also looks forward to direct the righteous wrath of islam against all kaffirs - he doesnt need to svck khan's @ss nor does he back down when faced by a better armed secular gazhi - the real gazhi's deen is stronger and hand steadier, as he is 'purer' than the secular gazhi along the islamic scale - and that is all that matters when it comes to this hell hole.

The problem for the secular gazhi is that the pure gazhi thinks the former is fair game too - so there is an element of one upmanship that comes up when it comes to showing purity - unfortunately, the real gazhi can show in deeds what the secular gazhi can only babble about.

Its really a delightful situation from my perspective. I hope more of these 'arguments' develop. They really need to get purer and purer.

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 27 Aug 2011 02:34

We always knew this...

Somali pirates' Pakistan link confirmed

It is now official: Somali pirates are being trained in Pakistan to carry out a proxy war against India.

Though Indian security agencies had been hinting at a Pakistani link to Somali pirates for long, material evidence to support this assertion has been recently recovered. The evidence was obtained from nine foreign nationals caught from a hijacked Iranian vessel - MV Nafis-1, by the Indian Navy 170 nautical miles off Mumbai on August 14.

"On several occasions we seized weapons and magazines from pirates or hijacked ships in Indian waters. These weapons bore the stamp of Pakistani ordnance factories. In this case, the guns have no label but the food items are packed and manufactured in Pakistan. Smugglers are not generally found carrying such a large amount of foreign currency," said a senior customs official.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2011 02:49

Lilo wrote:if some one has missed this. pure popcorn fun.
Zaid Hamid and Marvi sirmed have a go at each other.

Popcorn time indeed!! You know what would have a fitting finale? "Lal topi wala" should have gone down on his knees and proposed to "bindi wali Hindu",and kissed and made up in the end. I felt bad for Zaid Mahdi Hamid (pbuh). Marvi is not the kind of woman one tangles with on national TV.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 Aug 2011 02:57

Rupesh wrote:We always knew this...
Somali pirates' Pakistan link confirmed

"On several occasions we seized weapons and magazines from pirates or hijacked ships in Indian waters. These weapons bore the stamp of Pakistani ordnance factories. In this case, the guns have no label but the food items are packed and manufactured in Pakistan. Smugglers are not generally found carrying such a large amount of foreign currency," said a senior customs official.

That is no evidence. The cheap somali pirates could only afford paki weapons and food packages. Why blame the somalis. That does not tie them with the paki security agencies. This sort of allegation will carry no weight in any decent court. Now, if they had caught Duspercenti and the CEO of Somalipirates-R-Us, Inc in the hamaam together and filmed it, that's a different issue.

r_subramanian · Post by **r_subramanian** » 27 Aug 2011 03:25

Pak Air force cadet 'filmed female cadet in showers' in Canberra, Australia

A PAKISTANI air force cadet studying at the defence college Australian Defence Force Academy (ADFA) has been suspended after he was allegedly caught secretly filming a female cadet while she showered.
...
He was arrested by ACT {Australian Capital Territory} police on Thursday night after a female cadet discovered a mobile phone recording video in a vent above her shower cubicle at an ADFA dorm.
...

link

subodh · Post by **subodh** » 27 Aug 2011 03:50

r_subramanian wrote:Pak Air force cadet 'filmed female cadet in showers' in Canberra, Australia
A PAKISTANI air force cadet studying at the defence college Australian Defence Force Academy (ADFA) has been suspended after he was allegedly caught secretly filming a female cadet while she showered.
...
He was arrested by ACT {Australian Capital Territory} police on Thursday night after a female cadet discovered a mobile phone recording video in a vent above her shower cubicle at an ADFA dorm.
...
link

I dont see any problem here.

Paki f'king over the Paki-lite crew - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14663079

mehroke · Post by **mehroke** » 27 Aug 2011 05:14

Lilo wrote:if some one has missed this.
pure popcorn fun.
Zaid Hamid and Marvi sirmed have a go at each other.

Some interesting GUFTAGU on the Marvi Episode

The best from Marvi’s beating of Zaid Hamid on Shahid Nama

http://blog.ale.com.pk/?p=1734

BTW - Just curious - Who is Marvi? Would she be their equivalent of Ms Arundhati Roy? People on PK defence keep referring to her a Commie.

Shaashtanga · Post by **Shaashtanga** » 27 Aug 2011 05:18

Lilo wrote:if some one has missed this.
pure popcorn fun.
Zaid Hamid and Marvi sirmed have a go at each other.

Lilo Saab, i was enjoying my Friday evening after having couple of glenfiddich pegs and kaju masala, but after watching this clip in full, sara nasha utar gaya and i have new found respect for Marvi Sirmed to the extent that the bindi / sari wali hindu aurat is luking damn appealing to me (even more than katrina kaif). No sahafi on pak tv has so thoroughly ridiculed the lal topi wala maskhara on national tv... Sahid Masood (even though he is rabidly anti-India) was doing lots of mirch on zaid zaman hamid's arse.... hats off to you for finding this masterpiece.... damn will have to drink few more pegs to get the buzz back....

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Aug 2011 06:22

BijuShet wrote:From the Nation (posting in full). Keep an eye on this material crossing over to India. AFAIK, this material was also used in the recent bombing in Mumbai.

Ammonium nitrate smuggling from Pak of concern: US General
Submitted 7 hrs 23 mins ago
A top American general in Afghanistan has expressed serious concern over the continued smuggling of ammonium nitrate, a key ingredient for making bombs, from Pakistan into the strife-torn country.

BijuShet, that is why the US has asked Pakistan to suspend production of Ammonium Nitrate.