Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 05, 2011

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 02 Sep 2011 18:45

Militants attack tribal leader, kidnap..in Mohmand

Must be the other 20% that is still pure..

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 02 Sep 2011 18:49

gakakkad wrote:^^^ effects of reservation I believe? Though the average IITian (at least the one I know) are not pacifists. Besides why would international politics be relevant in a techfest? Techfest is supposed to be about robots , ai algorithms , efficient transmission systems etc.

Or Perhaps by Indo- Pak peace they mean more efficient toilet design .

What kind of post is that? WTH reservation has to do with pacifism or anything?
In my experience actually, most reserve category guys are far less infected by this papp-jhappi drama etc. Most of them came from villages and had far more grounded and truer observation about Pakistan/peace etc. Didnt find them reading much ToI editorials etc and their support was always more whenever decisive/hardline policy etc was discussed.
Dont post such comments when it has nothing to do with whats being talked about. Not arguing merits of reservation etc, but dont try to see it everywhere.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 02 Sep 2011 18:53

^^^ agree...au contraire, if you analyse the backgrounds of Stalinist/Maoist mass murders, womainsers, rapist goons, fake intellectuals, pseudo-secs, fake historians that engage in perjury in the Ayodhya case, anti-hindu hate mongers and Beijing puppet traitors in India, you will see well over 80% are actually the unreserved ones..

This is not just true in India, globally too...just to quote one instance, Pol Pot was well educated elite.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 02 Sep 2011 18:54

Neela wrote:
kittoo wrote:Guys dont give too much importance where its not required. Dont think too much about what guys at IIT are doing. I myself am from IIT Bombay and let me just say that no matter what the reality is, most of the NCERT generation (and almost all IITians are that only) will never understand the truth. Their worldview is shaped by NDTV/CNN-IBN and one or two editorials in ToI etc. Nothing is going to change that and anything other than that is 'extremism' and 'anti-peace' etc. Let us not get our lungis in twist for these kind of things.
There you are. Was expecting your post here.

Sorry read your post now only. Expecting in a good sense or bad?
Man its hard to understand underlying emotions on net sometimes lol.

saip · Post by **saip** » 02 Sep 2011 19:00

Hari Seldon wrote:
gakakkad wrote:Recently I met a guy attending Executive MBA at Stanford. Six weeks course. Tuition something like $75000. Only the top exec are sent and one of the students even brought his Ferrari all the way from Saudi.

What on earth they teach them for the price ?
How to operate a printing press, for example...

It is not what they teach that counts. Most important thing is who they meet at these courses. You see all these guys who are attending this course as far as I can tell are senior no 2s who are being groomed to become no 1s eventually. This is how they network and that will help their companies expand in different markets in the world.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 02 Sep 2011 19:15

Afghan militants kidnap 30 children

PESHAWAR: Afghan militants have kidnapped thirty children who accidentally crossed the border from Bajaur Agency, Geo News reported.

According to sources, these children were out celebrating Eid when they accidentally crossed the border. The children have been moved to an unknown location by their captors. The political administration has started an investigation and a grand jirga is underway to secure the release of the children.

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Sep 2011 19:30

Yet another Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday is commemorated with violence fuelled by differences in interpretation of Mohammaddenism.

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan what appears to be Shia Mohammadden retaliation for the Sunni Mohammadden hit targeting Shia’s / Shiite’s on Thursday:

Gunmen kill 4 in northwest Pakistan

By the CNN Wire Staff

September 2, 2011 -- Updated 1039 GMT (1839 HKT)

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Gunmen opened fire Friday on a passenger vehicle in northwest Pakistan, killing four people, a government official said.

The occupants, all Sunni Muslims, were traveling to Kurram district when the incident occurred, said Naseem Khan, a government official.

The attack is believed to be in retaliation for an ambush a day earlier on a minivan carrying Shiite Muslims, Khan said. …………………………………….

CNN

Meanwhile the co-relation between violence and Fridays has not gone unnoticed in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

An article dated August 31 titled “Exploring the fault lines” in Dawn had the following to say on the matter of the citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan indulging in violence on the day of the Mohammadden Sabbtah:

Exploring the fault lines

by Murtaza Haider on August 31st, 2011 ……………………..

For Muslims, Friday is the day of prayer. It is the day when Muslims are asked to forgo commerce and join others in a congregational prayer. Yet, Friday has become the most violence prone day in Pakistan. In 2010 alone, 43 per cent of the 1,547 victims of bomb blasts were killed on a Friday. In Balochistan and Punjab, Fridays accounted for almost 60 per cent of all bomb blast-related deaths.

The article was accompanied by this graphic drawn on data compiled by the South Asian Terrorism Portal:

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Sep 2011 22:08

So maybe Firdins are bad to go out in TSP?
Looks like the faithfools think they will please their hadith maker by killing others on that day?

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 02 Sep 2011 23:01

All green on green violence is a result of external hands. Muslims cannot kill other muslims. Hence the correlation of victims of bomb blasts on Fridays at mosques can easily be explained by the YYY. The evil hindu banias have holy days on Monday, Tuesday and Saturday. The jews and christians have Sunday. Mondays they are all getting back to work. That leaves Wednesday and Thursday for them to plot their evil deeds. The hindus hate our large, open mosques; compared to their narrow, dark temples. That is why they target the mosques. QED.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 02 Sep 2011 23:04

It would have been great if only Pakjab had sky scrapers.

Is there a map pin pointing localities where bum blasts have taken place in pakjab? I am hoping they are in or close to RAPE localities.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 02 Sep 2011 23:11

RCase wrote:All green on green violence is a result of external hands. Muslims cannot kill other muslims. .................QED.

Er...it should be IED.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 02 Sep 2011 23:23

Police constable arrested for allegedly molesting Chinese woman

RAWALPINDI: Rawalpindi police have arrested a constable on charges of sexual harassment for allegedly attempting to molest a Chinese woman.
According to reports, police constable Tauqeer Abbas was deployed as the security detail of a Chinese female engineer, Miss Lee.

Lee, who is working on the new airport project in Islamabad, reportedly started screaming when the constable tried to molest her.
The incident took place in the jurisdiction of Westrage Police Station and a case has been registered.

On the other hand, the accused police constable has alleged during his interrogation that he was on his duty when drunkard Miss Lee and her Chinese colleagues started beating him up.

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Zardari's dream: Chinese visiting Pak without passport

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 02 Sep 2011 23:34

Cosmo_R wrote:
RCase wrote:All green on green violence is a result of external hands. Muslims cannot kill other muslims. .................QED.
Er...it should be IED.

Nanha mujahid error for not spotting that!

...

atma · Post by **atma** » 03 Sep 2011 00:23

krithivas wrote:Good News. Though the country ranking is by a magazine, the bestowal of such an honor must be celebrated:
http://www.travelandleisure.com/slidesh ... d=outbrain
#15. Iraq
#14. Burma (Myanmar)
#13. Zimbabwe
#12. Eritrea
#11. Afghanistan
#10. Algeria
#09. Iran
#08. Uzbekistan
#07. Yemen
#06. Syria
#05. North Korea
#04. Lebanon
#03. Georgia
#02. Sudan
#01. Aman-Ki-Asha-Ki-Stan (Pakistan)

There is the Bakistan Tourism Dev. Corp. link in that article, proclaiming it "The Land of Adventure". The PTDC can arrange kidnappings, beheadings, IED blasts, driveby shootings, honor killings, amongst other adventures for the discerning international tourists.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 03 Sep 2011 00:29

RCAse is old attar in new bottle?

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 03 Sep 2011 00:40

Pakistani man arrested on U.S. terrorism charges

(Reuters) - A Pakistani-born man living in northern Virginia was charged with trying to help a militant group in his home country, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and making false statements to authorities, U.S. prosecutors said on Friday.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 03 Sep 2011 00:43

arun wrote:

This graph proves that purity of islam is in this order FATA > NWFP > SINDH > Balochistan > Punjab

That means a FATA-Abdul can kill mango-abduls from the remaining four provinces as they are less pure and so on. A Punjabi abdul killing anyone is UN-ISLAMIC

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 03 Sep 2011 01:20

shravan wrote:Pakistani man arrested on U.S. terrorism charges

(Reuters) - A Pakistani-born man living in northern Virginia was charged with trying to help a militant group in his home country, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and making false statements to authorities, U.S. prosecutors said on Friday.

Ah yet another Virginia based Pacqui Jihadi.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 03 Sep 2011 03:31

A long and OUTSTANDING read. Neatly summarizes the hopelessness and the depth of decay and despair that is enveloping every aspect of life in PakiSatan.

A monster roaming the world
Paul McGeough
September 3, 2011
The Sydney Morning Herald

The West has spent billions trying to buy Pakistan's friendship but the jihadists are stronger than ever...Search for a firm footing in Pakistan and there is none - all is quicksand … strategically, politically, morally.

A visitor leaves Pakistan wondering if anyone here speaks the truth.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 03 Sep 2011 03:51

Mahendra wrote:RCAse is old attar in new bottle?

No Mahendra ji, decided to toss the burqa to join the jirga.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 03 Sep 2011 04:12

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -role.html
America Needs Pakistan By Sherry
(But American HAve Bigger, Striffer Pakistan )

The idea was also to find how Pakistan can best pursue its interests in the changing Afghanistan endgame calculus, and what policies the U.S., India, and other regional actors would have to pursue for Pakistani objectives to be met. Pakistan’s goals matter because whichever way one looks at it, either as builder or spoiler, Pakistan is key to durable stability in Afghanistan.Findings suggest that Pakistani policy elites see their state as pursuing two overriding objectives: one, that the “settlement” in Afghanistan should not lead to a negative spillover so that it contributes to further instability in Pakistan or causes resentment among Pakistani Pashtuns; and two, that the government in Kabul should not be antagonistic to Pakistan nor allow its territory to be used against Pakistani state interests.
First would be to seek a degree of stability in Afghanistan, an agenda Islamabad is working on. Clearly, Pakistan’s interests are best served by a stable, efficient government in Kabul that is not hostile toward it. There is across-the-board realization here that persistent instability in Afghanistan will have numerous consequences that Pakistan is ill prepared to tackle.
Second, all see the need for an inclusive government in Kabul. In other words, Pakistan would prefer a negotiated configuration, with adequate Pashtun representation, that is recognized by all ethnic and political stakeholders in Afghanistan. Some opinion makers even insist that a sustainable arrangement would necessarily require the main Afghan Taliban factions—Mullah Omar’s group and the Haqqani network—to be part of the new political arrangement.
Third, there is worry about limiting Indian presence in Afghanistan to development activities alone. The Pakistani foreign-policy enclave accepts that India has a role to play in Afghanistan’s economic progress and prosperity. Yet many believe that the present Indian engagement goes beyond just development and thus raises legitimate concerns in Pakistan. A reluctance to address Pakistani misgivings increases the likelihood of a growing Indian footprint, and, in turn, New Delhi’s greater ability to manipulate endgame negotiations and the post-settlement dispensation in Kabul. As the Pakistani security establishment sees the dynamic, India has interests in Afghanistan, but Pakistan has vital stakes.. While Pakistani prognosis for a successful endgame is bleak also because of the belief that the U.S. would want to retain some long-term security presence in Afghanistan and use its bases there for counterterrorism missions against Al Qaeda and other high-value targets in Afghanistan and Pakistan, a scenario that worries many Pakistani stakeholders. This will likely create unease among the Afghan Taliban and a number of regional countries.
In terms of Pakistan’s role in the endgame, there is a growing distrust of U.S. intentions, opaque at the best of times, even more convoluted today. Pakistani policy circles believe that the U.S. would continue to push the Pakistan military to “do more” to stamp out militant sanctuaries while it tries to open up direct channels for talks with the Taliban. After the Raymond Davis episode and the bin Laden killing, the confidence gap between the two states is believed to be so deep that the U.S. would continue to pursue its own preferred outcomes while sidelining Pakistan’s security establishment in the political-reconciliation process.
Pakistan, therefore, has a tough task in balancing its interests. On the one hand, U.S. military operations in Afghanistan are believed to be causing an internal backlash in terms of militancy and deepening the state-society rift within Pakistan. On the other, Pakistanis appreciate that a premature U.S. Azl would lead to added instability in Afghanistan and a surge in unintended consequences for Pakistan.
It is believed that Pakistan has tried to balance these two competing aspects by providing significant counterterrorism and strategic support to the U.S. at the same time that it has held back from targeting the Afghan Taliban and other Pakistan-based groups operating against International Security Assistance Force presence next door. This strategy has proven costly in terms of the militant backlash Pakistan is facing internally, but capacity constraints jostle with intent, as some say that Pakistan remains unconvinced it will be able to bring core militant groups to the table to navigate a settlement in Afghanistan if it targets all actors. Those who argue that the “commitment deficit” is an old narrative in Pakistan’s priorities also insist that there is worry about Pakistan losing all leverage to protect itself on a conflicted open border, with links between the anti-Pakistan Tehrik-e-Taliban and the Afghan Taliban growing, along with coordinated attacks in the urban heartland. These policy discussants, in fact, argue that if Pakistan opens too many fronts with the militants, the fallout would compromise stability at home to unmanageable proportions.The bottom line: Pakistani foreign-policy circles believe that without greater clarity, America’s Afghanistan strategy will not just defeat U.S. objectives in Afghanistan, but dangerously destabilize Pakistan. In the absence of a silver-bullet solution, things can only improve if an immediate yet patient effort at inclusive reconciliation in Afghanistan is initiated because a genuine intra-Afghan dialogue will ultimately produce a dispensation in Kabul that is sensitive to Pakistani interests.The encouraging caveat here is that despite the perceived need to reconcile with the Taliban and isolate Al Qaeda, there is zero appetite in Pakistan for Afghanistan to return to Taliban rule. A bid to regain lost glory by Mullah Omar’s Taliban is seen as leading to conditions in Afghanistan that run counter to Pakistani objectives, most notably stability. The Pakistani state is thus no longer believed to be pitching for a return to Taliban supremacy akin to the 1990s.Other impediments to a peaceful Afghanistan settlement include skepticism about the viability of a regional framework, lack of clarity on the Taliban’s willingness to negotiate, the unstable political and economic situation in Afghanistan, and concerns about the capacity of the Afghan National Security Forces to manage the security vacuum or to remain a stabilizing force.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 03 Sep 2011 04:19

RamaY wrote:
arun wrote: This graph proves that purity of islam is in this order FATA > NWFP > SINDH > Balochistan > Punjab

That means a FATA-Abdul can kill mango-abduls from the remaining four provinces as they are less pure and so on. A Punjabi abdul killing anyone is UN-ISLAMIC

Call of the 72 hooded pindlis is strong amongst the Sindh mujahids

Lots of idiots in sindh seem to prematurIED by Thursday itself. Cant hold off for even a day.

shravan wrote: Zardari's dream: Chinese visiting Pak without passport

He wish to staple them personally to their asses

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 03 Sep 2011 04:20

How The CIA Became ‘One Hell of a Killing Machine’
Amreeki Pakistan Meri Jaan

No one views the CIA as anything resembling impotent. The drone strikes it operates are the most important counterterrorism tool the Obama administration uses, battering a Pakistan so intensely, in 2010 they struck an average of once every three days.Osama bin Laden is dead as the result of a military operation the CIA commanded, highlighting the unprecedented coordination between CIA and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). In the words of the head of CIA's Counterterrorism Center, its central nervous system for counterterrorism: "We are killing these sons of bitches faster than they can grow them now."It's never been publicly acknowledged. But without that network, it's impossible to understand the massive and sustained rise in drone strikes. The Post reports that the program "has killed more than 2,000 militants and civilians since 2001." That's not really the whole story. The vast majority of those kills have come since 2008, according to data collected by the New America Foundation, with only 112 estimated deaths maximum occurring between 2004 and 2007. Last year, the drones killed as many as 993 people; the body count is as high as 453 so far in 2011.
Why? Two reasons. First, President George W. Bush relaxed secret restrictions on special operations and intelligence activities in Pakistan. And second, the spy network that Tenet didn't have came to fruition. Waziristan tribesmen described getting money to plant homing beacons for drones in the houses of targeted militants. al-Qaida and Pakistani Taliban mouthpieces started sounding paranoid about infrared devices powered by 9-volt batteries and tattletale chips planted in SIM cards. Unlike earlier in the decade, the CIA had data about where the terrorists were and their "patterns of life" - or, at least, data about people it thought were terrorists.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 03 Sep 2011 04:23

hnair wrote:[quote="RamaY
Lots of idiots in sindh seem to prematurIED by Thursday itself. Cant hold off for even a day.

Premature IED are the result of uncontrollable inherrent Dog Leg manouver .

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 03 Sep 2011 07:20

Rony wrote:How-urdu-got-associated-with-muslims-in-India-- written by a Paki

IMHO the Persianizing and tearing away of Urdu fro Hindustani was an early example of the implementation of the Two Nation Theory.

In an earlier time, there were a number of prominent Muslim poets such as Rahim and Raskhan in present-day UP-Delhi area that wrote in 'Brajbhasha', and wrote about Hindu Gods and the themes of the land they were living in.

IIRC, Rahim (Abdurrahim Khankhana), who was Bairam Khan's son, was a prominent general in Akbar's army. He was one of Akbar's 'Navratnas'. Yet his writings show deep knowledge of Hindu scripture. He was so well known for his acts of charity, that even Sant Tulsidasji praised him.

Raskhan was from a Muslim jagirdar family, who became a devotee of Lord Krishna. He wrote devotional poetry to Lord Krishna and other Hindu Gods.

It is this tradition that was destroyed by 'partitioning' Urdu away from Hindi.

The Pakistan project has been long in making. It did not spring suddenly out of Iqbal's or Jinnah's head.

JMT

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 03 Sep 2011 07:32

Xinjiang's growing PoK links clouds China's stance on Kashmir

Contrasting with the trouble Indians resident in Jammu & Kashmir face in travelling to China, which has issued stapled visas to them because of the region's “disputed status”, Pakistanis from Gilgit-Baltistan and other areas in PoK say they are “welcomed” to travel and invest in Kashgar and face “no troubles”.

A community of several hundred Pakistanis has made Kashgar their home, with some traders marrying local Uighur women and settling down here.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 03 Sep 2011 07:33

Pakistan denied stay against Kishanganga project

ISLAMABAD: The writing had been on the wall for quite some time-thanks to the criminal incompetence of Pakistan’s water legal eagles headed by special assistant to prime minister Kamala Majidullah-but even then the blow came hard.

A seven-member bench of International Court of Arbitration (COA) threw out Pakistan’s inexplicably delayed request to grant a stay order against the construction of the controversial 330MW Kishanganga hydropower project, being built by India.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 03 Sep 2011 07:48

Reached back-channel Kashmir deal with Musharraf, PM said

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh told a senior visiting American delegation that India and Pakistan had reached a “non-territorial solution” on Kashmir, a leaked US diplomatic cable has revealed.

While several Pakistani politicians and diplomats have said that an agreement had been within reach before Pervez Musharraf’s ouster in 2007, the leaked cable provides rare insight and comment from the Indian government on the peace formula.

Speaking with a US delegation led by House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman in April 2008, the PM said great progress had been made prior to February 2007 when Musharraf was in power.

“We had reached an understanding in back channels,” he said, “in which Musharraf had agreed to a non-territorial solution to Kashmir that included freedom of movement and trade”, according to the cable. The cable continued: “The Prime Minister added that India wants a strong, stable, peaceful, democratic Pakistan and makes no claim on ‘even an inch’ of Pakistani territory.”

While India has refrained from officially commenting on the ‘Kashmir deal’, there were several indications at the time that things were on track after Musharraf announced a four-point formula and Singh made a statement about making borders irrelevant.

These statements, and the plea to make Siachen a mountain of peace, were part of the deal that included a self-governing structure with free trade across Kashmir.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 03 Sep 2011 07:49

This report is probably a part of the bigger scheme discussed above ^ .

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 03 Sep 2011 07:55

ISI funded terrorists in Valley, US knew in 1997

PM was frustrated with Pak, Narayanan joked about defecting to the US

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 03 Sep 2011 08:11

abhishek_sharma wrote:PM was frustrated with Pak, Narayanan joked about defecting to the US

Reading what has been quoted from leaked cables, it seems the highest Indian officials report to the US Ambassador and the visiting US politicians/ officials as if they are 'native' officials reporting to their colonial overlords.

I wonder if IG, PVNR, or ABV were as loquacious in front of foreign officials.

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 03 Sep 2011 08:54

US arrests Pakistani for supporting LeT

Jubair Ahmad, 24, stands accused of providing material support to the powerful Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, designated by the US government as a foreign terrorist organization, and then lying about his involvement to investigators.

According to an unsealed affidavit by a Federal Bureau of Investigation special agent, Ahmad produced and posted a propaganda video for LeT "glorifying violent jihad" in 2010, some three years after he arrived in the United States with his parents and two younger brothers.

The department said the FBI had been investigating Ahmad, a legal permanent resident living in the state of Virginia, since 2009, after receiving information that the man might be linked to LeT. The FBI later learned that, as a teen, Ahmad received "indoctrination and training from LeT while he lived in Pakistan," and that from the United States he communicated with the son of the extremist group's founder Hafiz Saeed.

The affidavit also said Internet giant Google provided records which confirmed upload of the propaganda video to an account on video-sharing website YouTube from an IP address associated with Ahmad's residence.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 03 Sep 2011 08:59

From the Wikileaks article posted above:

After 26/11, Menon assured US India is ‘sitting mum’

Nov 30, 2008: Menon tells top US officials that India is not doing anything to provoke Pakistan after the Mumbai attack.

Cable: “Menon wanted the US to be clear that India was not deliberately raising tensions, stating that “no one is mobilizing” and “we’re sitting mum.” ... Menon suggested that perhaps the Pakistan Government was engaged in “displacement activity,” fueling the controversy to shift attention away from reports of ties between the terrorists and Pakistan. “The last thing we want is to get into a public argument with Pakistan,”

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 03 Sep 2011 09:32

Nuggets from TFT

Japan starts hunting Muslims!

Jihadi publication Al Qalam reported that Japan had started hunting Muslims on the basis of prejudice and envy. The police spies on all Pakistanis living in Japan and inquires into their private lives. After that the information is handed over to the FBI. A list has been prepared of all Pakistanis living in Japan.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 03 Sep 2011 10:40

Kakkaji wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:PM was frustrated with Pak, Narayanan joked about defecting to the US
Reading what has been quoted from leaked cables, it seems the highest Indian officials report to the US Ambassador and the visiting US politicians/ officials as if they are 'native' officials reporting to their colonial overlords.

I wonder if IG, PVNR, or ABV were as loquacious in front of foreign officials.

It is my belief that in one-on-one meetings Indian leaders (and now it appears bureaucrats too) lower their guard considerably. I have always felt that for this reason alone, Indian and Pakistani Prime Ministers must not have a one-on-one meeting. Indian PM at least must always be surrounded by other ministers and officials.

AdityaM · Post by **AdityaM** » 03 Sep 2011 11:21

Awesome read if not already shared here:

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semp ... b-ali.html
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semp ... b-ali.html

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 03 Sep 2011 11:39

jrjrao wrote:A long and OUTSTANDING read. Neatly summarizes the hopelessness and the depth of decay and despair that is enveloping every aspect of life in PakiSatan.

A monster roaming the world
Paul McGeough
September 3, 2011
The Sydney Morning Herald
The West has spent billions trying to buy Pakistan's friendship but the jihadists are stronger than ever...Search for a firm footing in Pakistan and there is none - all is quicksand … strategically, politically, morally.

A visitor leaves Pakistan wondering if anyone here speaks the truth.

Thanks again jrjr. Below quote from above article gave me goosebumps. A couple of people here know why.

"Kamila Shamsie broaches obliquely, recounting how the city ''winks'' at her. "Yes, the city said, I am a breeding ground for monsters, " she writes, "but don't think that is the full measure of what I am."

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 03 Sep 2011 11:41

9/11 Conspiracy Theories Linger in Pakistan

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Sep 2011 12:45

shravan wrote:Police constable arrested for allegedly molesting Chinese woman

Extreme shortage of goats after id celebrations ??
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Zardari's dream: Chinese visiting Pak without passport

This is anyway going to happen very soon when the chinese take over the land of the pure.

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 03 Sep 2011 12:45

Could Occupied Hunza be the Next Bangladesh?
http://www.expertclick.com/NewsReleaseW ... 37470.aspx

Thousands of people have flocked to the streets in Pakistan controlled Hunza condemning state led terrorism and extra judicial killings.

Enforced disappearances continue in occupied Gilgit-Baltistan as on August 26, 2011, security forces arrested another eighteen political activists from Hunza at midnight and took them to unknown locations. The total number of local youth arrested has reached to forty including three journalists. Secret service agents also ransacked and damaged the offices of Karakoram Publishing Network and Daily K-2 newspaper.

According to Daily Baang-e-Sehar, one of the leading local newspapers of Gilgit-Baltistan, the detainees are being physically tortured as many of them continue to observe fasting to honor the Holy month of Ramadan. Security forces have established barricades and check posts at every few miles along the Karakoram Highway to intercept the vehicles carrying the local political activists and journalists who are escaping Gilgit-Baltistan to incognito.

Among the arrested is Sultan Madad who was trying to ride a bus to Islamabad. Among other detainees are Tahir Jan, Karim, Fida Ali, Mir Alam, Irfan Kareem, Mashghool Alam, Imran, Mir Aman, Gul Nawaz, Amir Khan, Ghulam Tahir, Nizam Khan and Afsar Jan.

The detainees have been charged for terrorism and sedition but their real crime is demanding food, shelter, medicines and schools for the flood victims who have been languishing in makeshift camps in Hunza since January of 2010.

Local activists are now demanding restoration of the former princely state of Hunza and regaining control over their land and resources. The situation is a reflection on lack of will and the capacity of Pakistani rulers and for failing to provide good governance. Hunza is a strategic region since it borders both Afghanistan and China and provides the land link for the Chinese to the Persian Gulf and Indian Oceanic Region.

Senge Sering
Institute for Gilgit Baltistan Studies
Washington DC, DC
202 689 0647

one more balochistan in the offing....