The Jan Lokpal Bill, Anna Hazare, and Baba Ramdev II
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Kiran Bedi says Swami Agnivesh was like a mole in Camp Anna and now he has to establish his credibility. Source NDTV and HT
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TEAM ANNA has acted as a pressure release valve for CON Party and basically served their interest. LOKPAL Bill is nothing but a red herring. Govt would come out with much diluted version in Parliament takin shelter behind "Parliament is Supreme" once pressure is off.Muppalla wrote: I wrote in this fast moving thread that this movement is clearly being used by Congress party to create a national level manchurian party like the once they experimented at state level (Chiru, Gondar, MNS etc.) duing 2009 elections.
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The more I read and understand, the more it becomes clear that the INC is invincible, simply put. I mean, even without any possible (probable?) EVM tampering shenanigans. They didn't rule for 90% of post-'47 India just like that.
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gakakkad wrote:^^^ reading error. But even though it is slightly cheaper , still you can't get much in 88 lakh.
Kakkar,
Let it go. I think people are missing your larger point here and no matter how hard you try, they will not get it. They are already awake. You are accusing someone of one murder he genuinely did not commit. No matter how complicit he may have been in many mass murders. An argumentative Indian will nitpick on that one murder he did not commit, rather than complicity in many mass murders. MM Singh may not be money corrupt, but is plenty corrupt, because he sold his soul for gaining prominence, fame, position and ostensible prestige. This selling of soul has assured him a good living and a secure financial future, even if it is not a super luxurious one by other politician's standards. If he had not been corrupt in selling his soul, he perhaps would have been devoid of even the 5 crores he has. Even more importantly, he clearly sold his soul, being complicit in all these major corruption scandals during his watch.
But, Kakkar, people will continue to pick on you for saying that his apartment was dishonestly purchased, which we have no evidence that he did dishonestly purchase. So back off. There is plenty to nail him to the cross without this particular charge. And if indeed, he did honestly purchase his apartment, in Indian context, let us be grateful for that. After all, in India one should be grateful for small blessings !
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Then why can't they declare the current market prices now? What are they afraid of, people's perception?chaanakya wrote:eklavya's point is correct. It is not the current market price of the asset but the price at which acquired and if from legitimate sources of income that is important. If the purchase price at the time did not reflect the true value t that time then it is questionable. I know in Delhi Mukherjee Nagar one could get SFS flats in Rs 5L back then but same flat would cost much more now. Its price appreciation and not acquisition by corrupt means.
Whatever one may say about PM , he is certainly not corrupt personally. That is what is keeping CON Party from total rout.
That is a common theme across whole nation. A poor man's 5 acre lot near Hyderabad ORR was less than Rs 5lakhs in 2000. The same land is worth Rs 100crore during the boom period.
Media uses one value to put propaganda spin, where as Netas use the other extreme to show they are honest.
Ekalavyaji, go thru all parliamentary speeches of MMS before, during and after Nuke bill and you will see know that he is a liar. Just because you "believe" him he doesn't become pure.
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There are many myths created about Shri.MMS, such as he never contested elections, man responsible for economy, and he is epitome of harischandra. Shri.MMS contested the elections in Delhi constituency on the plank of his integrity, right after 1984 massacre of sikhs by the goons of the party he represented. He lied through his teeth about RSS being responsible, trying to make a fool out of the delhi public, who squarely voted him out with their feet.
Just as any politico, he is no different, he gets in the mud slinging and all the tricks that a politician indulges. He just does that in a refined way probably wearing armani suit. Most people are comfortable and get duped by conmen in suit and tie, versus by one who is an attire worn such as by lalu.
Just as any politico, he is no different, he gets in the mud slinging and all the tricks that a politician indulges. He just does that in a refined way probably wearing armani suit. Most people are comfortable and get duped by conmen in suit and tie, versus by one who is an attire worn such as by lalu.
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It could be bench marked to current market price but that doesn't mean anything as the source of money used to acquire at the time of purchase is important. Media spin or Neta spin, its purchase price which matters not otherwise. Once you sell actual price would be known and reported anyway within conduct rules (, if at all). Perhaps one should ask same question from media persons.Govt employees can't escape except by way of benami but Netas thought they don't have to declare assets. But now they have to. Also Mr Sheshan (If I am right) asked candidates to declare assets. It is yet to be used effectively to collate information on acquisition of more assets by Winners.RamaY wrote:
Then why can't they declare the current market prices now? What are they afraid of, people's perception?
That is a common theme across whole nation. A poor man's 5 acre lot near Hyderabad ORR was less than Rs 5lakhs in 2000. The same land is worth Rs 100crore during the boom period.
Media uses one value to put propaganda spin, where as Netas use the other extreme to show they are honest.
Also what is boomed can also go bust ( see what happened in Massa) so current market price could not be reliable indicator for acquired asset. It could be for wealth tax which works on appreciation of wealth but then rates are low. So owning appreciating property is not costly and somehow I feel it should remain so for some time to come.
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Unless we see corrupted politicians trembling on TV and fleeing the country in their luxury jets nothing is going to happen. I also believe this whole Anna movement was a diversionary tactic by the congress. The media screaming "Hurray! Victory for the people!" when all that has happened is the gov giving some sort of vague promise. It's business as usual for everybody. BJP is now basking under the radiance of some stupid nationwide survey saying they are going to get more votes than congress...Congress revealing their pocket change to the masses...Anna and his "team" are up to god knows what...Arundhati found something else to babble about...Modi is now entering the fighting ring again...People are relaxing at home watching NDTV or some soap opera after a long day at work...
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Duryodhanas do not have a chance until and unless given protections by bhishmas and dronas... Would also like to see the Babus/sarkari naukars getting shamed in public. Because the Babus (many thousands in number) hide behind the dhotis of few politicians. In fact, politicians are a brave lot, to take one for the corrupt community.
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While it is true as you say right now that there is no evidence that MMS made even Rs.1 from CWG or any scam, it is also true that if anyone thinks that there is no evidence to prove that MMS is a honest man.eklavya wrote:
1) Is the PM responsible? Of course, he is.
2) Did he make even Rs.1 from the CWG disaster? I have not seen any evidence to suggest that he did.
I would rather have 1 honest man in Government than a Government full of bandits. When the Government has more people like Dr. Singh and fewer people like "the typical corrupt politician", the better it will be for India.
If Raja is guilty and he says he acted upon MMS communication then by law MMS also comes under the investigation. Still he is proven innocent one cannot give a blank cheque that he is honest.
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^^ yeah it was media revolution like a soap opera for middle class. Now back to business as usual. Who bothers what happened to 2G 3G 4G and CWG besides countless other scams. GOI filed petition in SC not to reveal names of Swiss account holders. They also objected to SC directive to try to bring back the money etc as it impinges on executive authority and separation of powers. USA arm-twisted and got names and is prosecuting their own citizens and fined UBS millions of dollars and got paid.RoyG wrote:Unless we see corrupted politicians trembling on TV and fleeing the country in their luxury jets nothing is going to happen. I also believe this whole Anna movement was a diversionary tactic by the congress
We paid lip service.
All those who are in jail would get bail and be out in time to dupe electorate further with some sob story etc.
That is why we are afraid of BR and not of AH. He wants money back and AH wants another bureaucratic elements to be created.
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Nelson is a very reputable organization. Often political parties hire their services, that does not mean Neilson skews the surveys. Anything but. Unless one can substantiate the allegations, doing so only raises the questions about the credibility of the accuser.Muppalla wrote:This whole Nielsen survey being reported in the press has a lot of sinster design. First of all it is a common knowledge in the media and also grapevine that Nielsen is the hired agency of Congress party to conduct surveys for its political and domestic policyHighlights of a STAR News-Nielsen survey of nearly 9,000 people across 28 cities after Anna Hazare called off his fast (all figures in percentage):
Who will you vote for? BJP:32 INC:20
Who was to blame for poor handling of Hazare movement? MMS:28 others:64
Would SG have handled better? No:54 Yes:40
Is it time for RG to take over as PM? No:54, Yes:39
If Hazare and Rahul faced off, who would you vote for? Hazare:78 Rahul:1
I know, given the political realities on India, we are all skeptics, but we need to be careful.
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Saying MMS is honest is as good as saying Dhritrastra was a righteous man.
A PM who allowed milliions to be siphoned off right under his nose in sacms one after another ,even if is not a party to the crime (which I feel he is) needs punishment similar to abating homicide. I do not want an honest man as PM who sees Bharat Mata getting raped & robbed with his eye s and does nothing. If the forth coming claim is that he didn't know about scams then again he is unfit for the job. If annother argument is that these scams never happened , I have nothing more to add.
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A PM who allowed milliions to be siphoned off right under his nose in sacms one after another ,even if is not a party to the crime (which I feel he is) needs punishment similar to abating homicide. I do not want an honest man as PM who sees Bharat Mata getting raped & robbed with his eye s and does nothing. If the forth coming claim is that he didn't know about scams then again he is unfit for the job. If annother argument is that these scams never happened , I have nothing more to add.
Just as any politico, he is no different, he gets in the mud slinging and all the tricks that a politician indulges. He just does that in a refined way probably wearing armani suit. Most people are comfortable and get duped by conmen in suit and tie, versus by one who is an attire worn such as by lalu.

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Indirectly, an honest man presiding over corrupt men is also to be considered corrupted, as long as he protects them from the law, and if on the other hand he gets them punished instead, he retains his face value.in MMS's case, it is still to be seen what he does with his corrupt ministers.
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Nielsen is just sucking upto the present government to remain in its good books. This is true of all organisations( see how Google, facebook, twitter etc. play upto the whims of the ruling class). They need that to stay in India and continue their business. It is very easy to fudge figures, "legally."Nelson is a very reputable organization. Often political parties hire their services, that does not mean Neilson skews the surveys. Anything but. Unless one can substantiate the allegations, doing so only raises the questions about the credibility of the accuser.
The way to get a predetermined response is to preface with a set of questions. Only if the respondent answers yes to all these questions, his answers are used for calculating the final numbers. The practice of "filtering" is based on the practice of obtaining neutral, fair and unbiased data

Fr eg, a set of questions asked in a newspaper will reflect the opinions of its readers. So if you want to prove that NaMo is a hindoo terrorist and MMS is a saint, your best bet is to ask the cosmopolitan readers of ToI....

However, to get the same result in a gujarati daily of ahmedabad (replace with any other gujarat city) would be very difficult. It is quite possible that NaMo is hailed as a saviour and CONgress is called out as a CON party throwing mud at their hero...

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+++1The more I read and understand, the more it becomes clear that the INC is invincible, simply put.
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Chanakya garu,
Can you please compare the asset declaration of MMS in his MP nomination forms and latest asset declarations?
Thanks
Can you please compare the asset declaration of MMS in his MP nomination forms and latest asset declarations?
Thanks
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On Sept'11 2010 MMS's assets were 4.3crores. In one year he earned 70lakhs?
Who is he kidding? Or he is taking salary from GoUSA?
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article625531.ece
Who is he kidding? Or he is taking salary from GoUSA?
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article625531.ece
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Will do that and put data on tabular form by next week.RamaY wrote:Chanakya garu,
Can you please compare the asset declaration of MMS in his MP nomination forms and latest asset declarations?
Thanks
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You can use the link I posted above and we can compare the details.
If there is a glaring discrepancy does it mean they lied in their election affidavits and thus are liable to be debarred from membership of parliament and be punishable?
If there is a glaring discrepancy does it mean they lied in their election affidavits and thus are liable to be debarred from membership of parliament and be punishable?
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+1000chaanakya wrote:eklavya's point is correct. It is not the current market price of the asset but the price at which acquired and if from legitimate sources of income that is important. If the purchase price at the time did not reflect the true value t that time then it is questionable. I know in Delhi Mukherjee Nagar one could get SFS flats in Rs 5L back then but same flat would cost much more now. Its price appreciation and not acquisition by corrupt means.
Whatever one may say about PM , he is certainly not corrupt personally. That is what is keeping CON Party from total rout.
It would be a good thing, if people knew how the systems work rather than go all over the place.
Everyone knows my deep "love" for Manmohan here already I think, and trying to attack Manmohan for personal corruption for petty sort is counterproductive.
Manmohan's corruption is far more deeper, more insidious, and more harrowing, of how a self-serving babu can fall to any extent to just get the next "promotion"
His is the corruption of the Indian middle classes, who happily support and benefit from corruption as long as their "accounts" are clean, and dont really care about what happens as a result of their actions, nor want to know and care.
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BJP seeks PM's intervention to stop Team Anna witch hunt
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/gadka ... unt-131261
BJP doesn't endorse privilege notice view against Team Anna
http://www.hindustantimes.com/BJP-doesn ... 41535.aspx
Team Anna and the parliament of whores
http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column ... es_1582982
Print media covered Anna movement more rationally rather than TV which unnecessary glorified movement
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/Readers ... 423886.ece
^ TV media has hiit the government where it hurts most, while most of the print media starting from T to H are loyal servants of sarkar, TV media needs middle class eye balls which were the participants of the movement as well. With up to 100 TY media and news channels it is unlikely that all of them woul;d be pro govt
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/gadka ... unt-131261
BJP doesn't endorse privilege notice view against Team Anna
http://www.hindustantimes.com/BJP-doesn ... 41535.aspx
Team Anna and the parliament of whores
http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/column ... es_1582982
Print media covered Anna movement more rationally rather than TV which unnecessary glorified movement
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/Readers ... 423886.ece
^ TV media has hiit the government where it hurts most, while most of the print media starting from T to H are loyal servants of sarkar, TV media needs middle class eye balls which were the participants of the movement as well. With up to 100 TY media and news channels it is unlikely that all of them woul;d be pro govt
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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-0 ... pesek.html
A $31 Billion Loss Creates the Biggest Tea Party: William Pesek
A $31 Billion Loss Creates the Biggest Tea Party: William Pesek
Sept. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Few people in their right mind would find any good in a $31 billion loss. In India’s case, it may just be the best thing that has happened in a very long time.
Let’s flash forward 20 years to what school kids will learn about recent events. Sure, they may hear about Anna Hazare, the anti-corruption activist whose hunger strike shamed a government. More than anything, they may learn than Hazare was a symbol of the national sense of disgust over an opaque phone- license deal that squandered $31 billion.Things began reaching a fever pitch in June, when police used teargas and batons to break up an anti-graft protest in New Delhi and evict yoga guru Swami Ramdev, who had joined the movement. Hazare’s hunger strike got more attention, partly because of the government’s ham-handed response.
Arresting Hazare was just plain nutty. So was Singh, once a highly respected development economist, in attacking anti-graft protests as a danger to India’s democracy. Singh showed that he had missed the point completely. The whole reason for the public anger is that India’s democracy is failing the masses.The parallels between the Indian and U.S. Tea parties reflect public anger at elites, rather than the substance of their grievances. Most Indians don’t want the government out of their lives -- they want it to do better by them. Indians are less antagonistic toward public spending than their American counterparts and instead demand that it benefit the broader economy.As in the U.S., India’s version of the Tea Party seemed to come out of nowhere to alter the political landscape in sudden and unpredictable ways. For too many years, politicians pooh- poohed the need to clean up India
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the whole "tea party" business is very curious. this is interesting social engineering. are they trying to define Indian movement on American terms? or are they trying to give a false sheen to the American Tea Party by associating it with catch words like "Gandhian", "non violence", etc???
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+1000.nukavarapu wrote: And that makes him even more worse than the people who are corrupt. A person, who just wants to be in the good books of everyone, especially his party members, gets into a highly authoritative position and turns a blind eye to everything wrong happens under his hood. Why? So that he looks like an angel in eyes of both the saints and the demons? What good is that person? If he knew he can't do anything about the malice, why did he accept the position to begin with?
Absolutely. What Manmohan has done is 1000 times more sinister than any of those petty and bigger crooks. He is literally parceling of pieces of India so has to gain personal 15 minutes of fame. We have seen the type of interlocutors he chooses for J&K and his love making with Pakis, and on and on and on.....
And that's why I want him "tried" for the full scope of his crimes, and not for petty (and probably imaginary) thefts of a few crores.
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Good point. But rest assured, the various stimuli and the responses it elicited have been noted for deeper study and analysis in phoren lands.devesh wrote:the whole "tea party" business is very curious. this is interesting social engineering. are they trying to define Indian movement on American terms? or are they trying to give a false sheen to the American Tea Party by associating it with catch words like "Gandhian", "non violence", etc???
Nobody pretends Anna's 15 days of fame in Dilli is == a color revolution in India. However color revolutions have happened in our neighborhood quote a bit now (Red in Nepal, Green in Pak, yellow in SL). Who knows what will next be tried on India, eh?
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The only color revolution thats ever going to happen in India is saffron and no external players are going to have a role in it (at least human external players)
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^^^ Is that hope speaking or is it knowledge? Saffron is the one color revolution that so many multitudes (the entire rest of the world and at least a quarter within India) will exert very hard to prevent. I don;t see it happening. I sometimes wish it could but realistically, nope.
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^ Sir even during holi I have not seen saffron color sachets. 
It's RGB and PInk mostly; or gobar .

It's RGB and PInk mostly; or gobar .

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Neither, it is a considered prediction based on projections of past and present on the future.Hari Seldon wrote:^^^ Is that hope speaking or is it knowledge?
Not in the short term, and not in the way other revolutions happen, but this will be the one happening for sure.
Bas ek dhakka aur.

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nukavarapu wrote:And that makes him even more worse than the people who are corrupt. A person, who just wants to be in the good books of everyone, especially his party members, gets into a highly authoritative position and turns a blind eye to everything wrong happens under his hood. Why? So that he looks like an angel in eyes of both the saints and the demons? What good is that person? If he knew he can't do anything about the malice, why did he accept the position to begin with? He should have made a cautious decision to stick to Finance Ministry, but the dream to lead the country was too glittering. And now we the masses are left with the sorry excuse that whatever happened, happened without his consent and on top of it, we have his bank statements showing his obsession with cleanliness. God bless my country !!!Sanku wrote: +1000
It would be a good thing, if people knew how the systems work rather than go all over the place.
Everyone knows my deep "love" for Manmohan here already I think, and trying to attack Manmohan for personal corruption for petty sort is counterproductive.
Manmohan's corruption is far more deeper, more insidious, and more harrowing, of how a self-serving babu can fall to any extent to just get the next "promotion"
His is the corruption of the Indian middle classes, who happily support and benefit from corruption as long as their "accounts" are clean, and dont really care about what happens as a result of their actions, nor want to know and care.
That would be Niro Syndrome. or Dhritrastra as one member mentioned.
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^^ Reddy brothers snatched from their homes in Bellary and produced in Hyderabad by CBI..Wonder if this is a warning shot for YSR.Jr to mend his ways?
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Jet flew to Mumbai to get Mayawati's favourite sandals: US cables

Uttar Pradesh's chief minister Mayawati styles herself as saviour of the country's "untouchables" sent her private jet to pick up a pair of sandals, according to leaked US diplomatic cables. US embassy cables from 2007 to 2009 released by the WikiLeaks website in recent days
describe Mayawati, 55, as "a first-rate egomaniac" who "is obsessed with becoming prime minister".
They said Mayawati celebrated her birthday each year by receiving millions of dollars in gifts from "sycophantic party members, civil servants and business people" while officials vie for a chance to feed her cake.
"When she needed new sandals, her private jet flew empty to Mumbai to retrieve her preferred brand," a cable dated October 23, 2008 reported, adding she employed food tasters to guard against poisoning.
"She constructed a private road from her residence to her office, which is cleaned immediately after her multiple vehicle convoy reaches its destination," the cable said in an analysis of her "eccentricities, whims and insecurities".
It added an account of Mayawati making a state minister do sit-ups in front of her as punishment for a minor protocol error, and reported it cost $250,000 to run as a BSP parliamentary candidate due to "institutionalized corruption".


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Baba is Back
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/ba ... 29740.html
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/ba ... 29740.html
Announcing his second round of yatra against black money, Ramdev said he will be starting the same from Jhansi in Uttar Pradesh from September 20.
"We will begin second round of our movement to bring back black money stashed in foreign banks from September 20 in Jhansi in Uttar Pradesh. The Yatra will go to all neighbouring cities and states," he confirmed.
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Expressing sadness over media reports doing rounds pertaining to ED tightening its noose around him, the yoga guru said that he had done a tremendous “service to the nation by protecting the heritage of Ayurveda in all its purity and have been treating people of various ailments for the past twenty years.”
On a dramatic note he added, “I work 365 days a year. I have no personal life. I have no bank accounts in my name. I also do not have an inch of land in my name.” He put forth the question, “What is wrong with that?”
Baba Ramdev lamented, “Nationalists are being humiliated in this country. I have not done anything to bring down the name of my country.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/06/world ... ml?_r=1&hp
Some concrete action against the powerful and corrupt... warms the heart
May we have many many more such events across the country. Such resolute actions would go a long way in restoring the people's faith in the system...
Good job to the work done by the Karnataka Lok Ayukta team and Mr. Santosh Hegde... (need a "clapping" emoticon)
Some concrete action against the powerful and corrupt... warms the heart

Good job to the work done by the Karnataka Lok Ayukta team and Mr. Santosh Hegde... (need a "clapping" emoticon)
One of India’s most powerful mining barons, whose political clout and wealth have made him a controversial national figure, was arrested on Monday as investigators raided his offices and seized about $1 million in cash and more than 40 pounds of gold.
Until recently, G. Janardhana Reddy was a kingmaker in the southern state of Karnataka, where his family and allies once dominated key ministries in the state government. From his base in the Bellary district, home to some of India’s richest reserves of iron ore, Mr. Reddy controlled lucrative mining leases and reportedly made millions of dollars exporting ore to China and elsewhere.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14783930“It was a mafia-like system,” said N. Santosh Hegde, a former justice on India’s Supreme Court who spent more than two years investigating illegal mining in Karnataka as an independent state-level ombudsman. “That district had become the Republic of Bellary. It is not part of India.”
Mr. Reddy’s arrest comes as public disgust over official corruption has boiled over in India. Hundreds of thousands of protesters took to the streets last month to support a hunger strike by the anticorruption campaigner, Anna Hazare, a pressure campaign that forced Indian leaders to capitulate to many of Mr. Hazare’s demands over the shape of a proposed independent anticorruption agency.
Mr. Reddy and his brothers were once political organizers who traveled on scooters to work on behalf of the Bharatiya Janata Party, or B.J.P. Their political work and the money they raised for political campaigns helped the B.J.P win control of the state government, while entrenching the family as the political kingpins of Bellary. Rivals complained that Mr. Reddy used his political power for his own competitive advantage in dominating the mining and transport of iron ore.
Mr. Hegde, who recently stepped down from his ombudsman role in Karnataka, released a scathing report last July that concluded that illegal mining had cost the state treasury more than $3.5 billion in tax revenues. In his report, Mr. Hegde said the Reddy brothers had created an entire system to avoid paying royalties to the government, while also taking a cut from any ore shipped, illegally or legally, out of Karnataka.
Mr. Reddy has consistently denied any wrongdoing. But his power was so vast that his political allies once nearly brought down the state government — run by his own party — to protest a plan to increase taxes on shipments of ore. Eventually, though, Mr. Reddy became an embarrassment for national B.J.P. leaders. And in Karnataka, the mining scandals forced the resignation of the former B.J.P. chief minister, B.S. Yeddyurappa.
Even today, Mr. Reddy’s political influence is potent inside Karnataka. State authorities have yet to take any legal action against any of the people named in Mr. Hegde’s report. Meanwhile, Mr. Reddy’s arrest on Monday was carried about by investigators in the neighboring state of Andhra Pradesh.
http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?733599Ten federal agents took him from his home in Bellary district early on Monday.
Mining baron and former Karnataka Minister G Janardhan Reddy and Managing Director of Obalapuram Mining Company B V Srinivas Reddy were today arrested by CBI after searches at their premises allegedly led to seizure of over 30 kg of gold and more than Rs 4.5 crore in cash.
A 15-member CBI team from Hyderabad conducted searches at Janardhana Reddy's house and claimed to have seized Rs three crore in cash and over 30 kgs of gold, official sources alleged.
A sum of Rs 1.5 crore was also seized from the residence of Reddy's brother-in-law Srinivasa Reddy, who is also the Managing Director of the company owned by the Reddy family, they claimed.
"Janardhana Reddy and Srinivasa Reddy have been arrested under Prevention of Corruption Act and we are taking them to Hyderabad", CBI DIG P V Lakshminarayana, who is heading the team, told reporters in Bellary.
The arrests came in connection with the cases filed by CBI against the Reddy brothers in Andhra Pradesh, the sources said, adding both were expected to be produced before a special CBI court in Hyderabad later in the day.
Even as the CBI team escorted the Reddys to Hyderabad, the agency continued searches at Janardhana Reddy's residence in Bellary and Bangalore.
A team questioned Aruna Lakshmi, wife of Janardhana Reddy in Bellary, and another conducted searches at his residence in Bangalore, they said.
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Digvijay should be admitted to mental hospital: Anna Hazare
PTI
RALEGAN SIDDHI: Anna Hazare has hit out at Digvijay Singh for stating that the RSS was actively involved in promoting his anti-corruption movement, saying the Congress general secretary should be admitted to a mental hospital.
“I have said this earlier also that people like Singh should be put in ‘Yeravada’, (a well known place in Pune housing a government mental hospital),” Hazare told reporters on Monday when asked about his reaction on Singh’s comment.
The 74-year-old Gandhian said he was determined to continue his fight for the passage of a strong Lokpal bill in Parliament to curb corruption in the country.
Hazare reiterated that his close associate Arvind Kejriwal was a “clean man” who was being targeted by the government, adding that the latter was not a person who would commit irregularities for temptation of money.
The social activist, later addressing a group of his supporters, said his fight was against corruption and “goonda” elements practising it.
He urged the people to be ready to come on the streets for ‘jail bharo’ whenever a call is given for the next agitation.
“The fight is going to be a long one and the path is strewn with thorns but we have to walk on it to make India corruption free,” he said.
The anti-graft crusader said he had regained 4.5 kg out of 7 kg which he lost during his 12 day fast at Delhi’s Ramlila Maidan and was on way to full recovery to pursue his goals.
“I am treating my body as an instrument of God to achieve my goal of a corruption free India,” he added.
A heavy security blanket comprising commandos and armed security men in plain clothes has been thrown around the guest house where Anna has stayed put since his arrival here after being discharged from a Gurgaon hospital on conclusion of his fast.