The Jan Lokpal Bill, Anna Hazare, and Baba Ramdev II

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 05 Sep 2011 23:08

^ What is the guarantee that some of these wikipeeks are NOT fake?

Does CIA have any job other than checking what sandals Mayavati is wearing on a given day?

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 05 Sep 2011 23:17

Does anyone else find it suspicious that the only concrete outcome out of Team Anna is to destabilize BJP state governments? BSY was done in by Hegde's report, and now Modi is under pressure on "corruption" in Gujarat. Meanwhile, the loot in Delhi continues unabated, and even people like Manmohan Singh who dropped the Bofors investigation are not being suspected of wrongdoing.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 05 Sep 2011 23:27

nukavarapu wrote:...
-- Yellow people who wants to take pieces out of the country

That is a little beyond the pale

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 06 Sep 2011 00:03

Theo_Fidel wrote:
Prem wrote:India Needs a Tea Party
You would need Social Security and Medicare for that.

Large numbers of the Tea Party are retired on SS. This gives them time to go and disrupt meeting and government functioning. They want the entire government to be dismantled except SS & Medicare.

The core of the Tea party is the latest reincarnation Ralph Reed's Christian Coalition. A brilliant strategy executed by Republican heavy weights like Dick Armey. By shedding the religion tag and extending the agenda to economy, they were able to attract more angry white males.

eklavya · Post by **eklavya** » 06 Sep 2011 01:48

nukavarapu wrote:
eklavya wrote:
Nukavarapu,

As the PM, Dr. Singh ought to have been aware of actions being taken by the Telecoms Ministry in the 2G spectrum allocation. It appears that he even gave written instruction to the Ministry questioning the way the allocation was being done, but the Telecoms Minister (Raja) basically wiped his a*ss with the PM's letter and flushed it down the loo.

1) Should the PM have sacked Raja then and there? I wish he had.
2) Were there political compulsions (DMK support for UPA) that stopped him from firing Raja? There probably were.
3) Should the PM have taken heed of the political compulsions? I wish he hadn't.

One part of me believes that the publication of the Raadia tapes and the CAG report on 2G had the PM's personal support. Sort of an "insurgency from within". I think this PM would even welcome a Kargil type inquiry into this affair. Not sure if his colleagues will support such a move. So, its good they get a bad name for it.

The Commonwealth Games disaster also happened right under the Government's nose.

1) Is the PM responsible? Of course, he is.
2) Did he make even Rs.1 from the CWG disaster? I have not seen any evidence to suggest that he did.

I would rather have 1 honest man in Government than a Government full of bandits. When the Government has more people like Dr. Singh and fewer people like "the typical corrupt politician", the better it will be for India.
And we as a country ended up in such grim situation because of people who share thoughts with you, that shows the sorry stat of indians to an extent that its no longer even funny. In fact the so called honest person lets every bit of mud and $hit accumulate which is spreading the disease called corruption, and this one person who had the authority to stop or at least curtail the intensity/magnitude of this infestation did nothing. In my eyes, he is the biggest criminal.

Just wait a while till the investigating whore finds a new master as governments change, and then we will see how clean the person is. If that day comes, how would the haman soap providers who talk about evidence will justify these outrageous posts?

This is what lawyers like to do the best, they want an evidence for the obvious, just another excuse to save the criminals.

Corruption in India did not start in May 2004. The current government has corrupt ministers, and so did every other government before that. Dr. Singh's policies and actions have lifted hundreds of millions of Indians out of poverty and deprivation. If the Mahatma brought India freedom, and Nehru gave us democracy, Dr. Singh has given India an economy and economic freedom that will house, feed and clothe our people, and lift India out of hundreds of years of grinding poverty. Dr. Singh, for all his faults, is one of the greatest leaders India has ever had.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 06 Sep 2011 02:02

eklavya wrote: Dr. Singh has given India an economy and economic freedom that will house, feed and clothe our people, and lift India out of hundreds of years of grinding poverty. .

Actually quite incorrect, the political decisions were taken by Narashima Rao and Yashwant Sinha even before that. In fact it was Yashwant Sinha's whose decisions ended up being implemented by PVNR govt (since they were externally binding obligations)

Manmohan on his part

1) Implemented Licencse quota raj for Indira Gandhi (yes he was her main planning man during that time)

2) Implemented mercantile west friendly oppressive World bank rules when he did his jee hujooree to the world bank.

3) Implemented what PVNR asked him to do in 90s (mostly through Yashwant Sinha's decisions)

4) Implemented the Nuclear deal for his latest masters after he was put on PMs post by Sonia and did a BIG ZILCH in that period.

So basically Manmohan is a uber babu who will faithfully put his "yes sir" style execution signature on which ever set of files his political masters want cleared.

I wonder if he even decides his lunch menu on his own.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 06 Sep 2011 03:58

To each his own. Just to be sure, let the homage to the most important man in the world is not lost, would like to put it on record here. Al gore, despite all his faults is the man who invented internet, and has helped millions, possibly billions of denizens across the globe to post their opinions in the free world of internet. Al gore is one of the best inventors the world has ever seen.

In the meantime, in the Indian scene despite the bias of sharing hometown with his excellency Shri. H.D.Devegowda, he is the best leader India has ever produced. The reason for that is most of the leaders are found to be asleep at the job, while his excellency, ex-PM shri. Devegowda took the game to whole new height where he defined his job is to sleep. How cool can that be? Could any leader in Indian scene even dare to match that. (BTW, in most cases that happens to be the best, because it causes least damage)

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 06 Sep 2011 04:07

eklavya wrote:
Corruption in India did not start in May 2004. The current government has corrupt ministers, and so did every other government before that. Dr. Singh's policies and actions have lifted hundreds of millions of Indians out of poverty and deprivation. If the Mahatma brought India freedom, and Nehru gave us democracy, Dr. Singh has given India an economy and economic freedom that will house, feed and clothe our people, and lift India out of hundreds of years of grinding poverty. Dr. Singh, for all his faults, is one of the greatest leaders India has ever had.

First of all, as events proved in the last 15 years, Indians are not that bright. Any PM/CM who went for the growth is doomed.

1. PVNR and Vajpayee took enormous political risks and did what is the best for the nation. They were screwed by the people.
2. MMS was using the freedom given by PVNR to execute the plan. He has done a good job but PVNR could have founded such capable men.

When UPA came into power, MMS proved that he could not carry out any economic reforms or he could not convince Sonia or Left of their importance.

Sonia took the easy way out by blaming the Left, she stalled all the reforms and investment into infrastructure and just went the populist way by spending all the new revenue in the most irresponsible manner. MMS stood there watching. They have no one to blame now that Left front is all defeated.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 06 Sep 2011 06:24

Reddys' Obulapuram struck gold under YSR patronage

If you click on Bramhani Steels on the internet, the site will not open. But this wasn't so a year ago. Promoted by Gali Janardhana Reddy, this proposed steel plant located in Kadapa district of Andhra Pradesh was to be set up to initially produce 1.7 million tonnes of steel a year, ramping up its capacity to 20 million tonnes in a few years. Strangely, this huge Rs 6,850-crore project was to be established without any bank loans or equity from the public. Entire funding would come from profits of Obulapuram Mining Company (OMC), the 77% stakeholder of Bramhani Steels. The remainder of the company is privately owned by Janardhana Reddy, his friends and associates.

This was clearly a phony project. But the Andhra Pradesh government, without so much as a blink, had handed over 10,760 acres of land -- an area the size of Lutyen's Delhi --to the promoter. Also, it was ready to divert 2tmcft of scarce water from an irrigation dam to run the project, even as Janardhana Reddy sought another 4,000 acres to set up a private airport in the area. Just then, fate intervened. AP's Congress chief minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy was killed in a helicopter crash on September 2, 2009. With this, the world came crashing down for BJP's Janardhana Reddy.

Indira Gandhi and YSR were masters at black mailing and controlling the caders. This present Congress party seems to have learned the acts but not the tactics. The speed at which the press is catching up on this, Reddy brothers case might prove to be a bigger liability to INC than BJP.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 06 Sep 2011 06:35

Interesting write-up on the Jan Jokpal bill fundees

http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayA ... px?id=1948

Yes, indisputably there is a foreign hand. The experience of West-funded NGOs instigating so-called Flower/Coloured revolutions is too recent to ignore, especially in the destabilization and break-up of the Soviet Union. The Vigil book gives irrefutable data of Western money flowing into India to promote and support the anti-nation industry of many well-known “civil society activists,”

sumishi · Post by **sumishi** » 06 Sep 2011 06:58

nukavarapu wrote:...
Whats amazing is the extent of CIA penetration in desh. They are capable of even keeping track of Mayawati and her sandals. It seems that the way even PMO was comprised by Kremlinwalas in 70s & 80s, the 2000s will very well be dominated by the CIAs.

-- We have a dynasty which is hell bent on enslaving yindoos
-- Yellow people who wants to take pieces out of the country
-- We have western trash who just wish to take us down with them
-- On top of it, the system might very well be compromised by yanks and controlling the whole direction our civilization is taking.

Maybe I am just becoming paranoid !!!

A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on --- William S. Burroughs

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Sep 2011 08:01

Rajmata is returning to delhi today. will be in semi-active mode for next two months to fully recover per reports.

the arrest of the Reddy's and imminent arrest of jagan mohan reddy could be seen as a MLRS barrage prior to arrival of the 1st brigade combat team of abrams.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Sep 2011 08:19

rediff is claiming INC acted to head off a plan by the karnataka reddy's to leave the BJP, float their own party and later join with YSR congress to carve out a new space spanning across both states.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 06 Sep 2011 08:26

Singha wrote:Rajmata is returning to delhi today. will be in semi-active mode for next two months to fully recover per reports.

the arrest of the Reddy's and imminent arrest of jagan mohan reddy could be seen as a MLRS barrage prior to arrival of the 1st brigade combat team of abrams.

Subramaniun Swamy claims that Rajmata has a 60 person "command and control" team in London to ensure that she retains power

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 06 Sep 2011 08:27

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ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 06 Sep 2011 08:28

Singha wrote:rediff is claiming INC acted to head off a plan by the karnataka reddy's to leave the BJP, float their own party and later join with YSR congress to carve out a new space spanning across both states.

TOI also is had similar accusation:

Had YSR's son Jagan not openly demanded his father's office from Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh even while his father's body lay in another room, Janardhana Reddy could, perhaps, have carried on. But Jagan's rebellion and speculation that Janardhana was in partnership with the young scion did him in. Janardhana used to say, "YSR is like father to me, and Jagan my brother."

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 06 Sep 2011 08:31

Singha wrote:http://www.rinkworks.com/words/collective.shtml

collective word for a group of baboons is 'congress'

baboon - one of the most vicious and dangerous in monkey world.

http://www.outtoafrica.nl/animals/engbaboon.html
Habitat
Baboons are found in surprisingly varied habitats and are extremely adaptable. [sure!]

Behavior

These family units of females, juveniles and infants form the stable core of a troop, with a ranking system that elevates certain females as leaders. A troop's home range is well-defined but does not appear to have territorial borders. It often overlaps with the range of other baboons, but the troops seem to avoid meeting one another.

When they begin to mature, males leave their natal troops and move in and out of other troops. Frequent fights break out to determine dominance over access to females or meat. The ranking of these males constantly changes during this period.

Males are accepted into new troops slowly, usually by developing "friendships" with different females around the edge of a troop. They often help to defend a female and her offspring.

[oh! they must be talking of congrez!]

Diet
Baboons are opportunistic omnivores and selective feeders that carefully choose their food. [Are they talking of Kapil Sibal? N.D Tiwari? ]

Caring for the Young
For the first month, an infant baboon stays in very close contact with its mother. The mother carries the infant next to her stomach as she travels, holding it with one hand. By the time the young baboon is 5 to 6 weeks old it can ride on her back, hanging on by all four limbs; in a few months it rides jockey style, sitting upright. Between 4 and 6 months the young baboon begins to spend most of its time with other juveniles. [hmm the madonna and the baby...]

Predators

Males may confront other predators like leopards or cheetahs by forming a line and strutting in a threatening manner while baring their large canines and screaming.
[why does Digvijay float in my vision?]

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Sep 2011 08:59

Jarita wrote:Interesting write-up on the Jan Jokpal bill fundees

http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayA ... px?id=1948

Yes, indisputably there is a foreign hand. The experience of West-funded NGOs instigating so-called Flower/Coloured revolutions is too recent to ignore, especially in the destabilization and break-up of the Soviet Union. The Vigil book gives irrefutable data of Western money flowing into India to promote and support the anti-nation industry of many well-known “civil society activists,”

The funders tend to cast their net wide for people who may be useful in the future; the fundees may not be cognizant of the goals of the funders and may not always act in the funders' interests. In that scenario they may get reduced funding in the future.

The Agnivesh episode is typical - just because he was hanging out with Team Anna, it does not mean that Team Anna was batting for Sibal and Sonia.

sum · Post by **sum** » 06 Sep 2011 09:52

Whats amazing is the extent of CIA penetration in desh. They are capable of even keeping track of Mayawati and her sandals. It seems that the way even PMO was comprised by Kremlinwalas in 70s & 80s, the 2000s will very well be dominated by the CIAs.

One of the journos was commenting in a channel yesterday that the days of having a mole ( like in IGs cabinet etc) are long gone and our diplomats and netas seem to bare everything they have over a cup of tea itself( esp when in chat with foreign diplomats) and keep on talking until someone actually asks them to stop...

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Sep 2011 10:06

Jarita wrote:
Subramaniun Swamy claims that Rajmata has a 60 person "command and control" team in London to ensure that she retains power

Do you have a link?

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 06 Sep 2011 10:42

CIA has no doubt has deep penetration at all places but where it is required.

When CIA was penetrated deep by ISI in turn, CIA lost sight and failed to find Osama for 10 years.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Sep 2011 10:45

most of our IAS/IFS/Mantris/top industrialists have sons and daughters and other family settled in western countries. until the west enjoys a significant gap in std of living and "fun factor", this will always happen. the dhimmi attitude only makes the pull stronger to "impress" and suck up to the goras.

I cannot name any top industrialist scion, political dynast kid or even bollywood baba/babylog who has not studied in a prestigious western pvt university. and in india its lawrence school sanawar, doon school, welham school and mayo college ajmer among others.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 Sep 2011 10:51

True Murugan,the CIA certainly has "deep penetration" in both Pak and India,thanks to obliging and willing leaders who allow it so!

PS:How times have changed.

Bandit Queen :Phoolan Devi.
Chappal Queen: Mayawati!

habal · Post by **habal** » 06 Sep 2011 11:04

Pranav wrote:
Jarita wrote:
Subramaniun Swamy claims that Rajmata has a 60 person "command and control" team in London to ensure that she retains power
Do you have a link?

Subramaniam Swamy's tweetar.

@reBel1857 : All of the 60 member Sonia mafia cartel assembled in London to discuss how not to let power slip .
4 Sep via Twitter for Android

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 06 Sep 2011 11:07

http://www.timesnow.tv/INDIA/2G-scam-Bh ... 383227.cms

'CBI going slow on Maran in 2G case'

Senior lawyer Prashant Bhushan on Tuesday (September 6) filed a fresh affidavit in the Supreme Court, stating that the investigation into former textiles minister Dayanidhi Maran's role in the 2G spectrum scam has not been honestly conducted by the Central Bureau of Investigation.

In the affidavit, Bhushan also stated that Dayanidhi Maran was not even questioned or arrested for his role in coercing and finalising the sale of Aircel to Malaysia-based Maxis group.

Prashan Bhushan in his affidavit accused the CBI of overlooking vital facts on the role of the former textiles minister in the 2G spectrum allocation scam.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 06 Sep 2011 11:36

Singha wrote:most of our IAS/IFS/Mantris/top industrialists have sons and daughters and other family settled in western countries. until the west enjoys a significant gap in std of living and "fun factor", this will always happen. the dhimmi attitude only makes the pull stronger to "impress" and suck up to the goras.

I cannot name any top industrialist scion, political dynast kid or even bollywood baba/babylog who has not studied in a prestigious western pvt university. and in india its lawrence school sanawar, doon school, welham school and mayo college ajmer among others.

How many of brf members belong to NRI/PIO/OCI category and fall in the above category? It would be interesting to know.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 06 Sep 2011 11:46

Being abroad in pursuit of better living is not a problem. But we have to accept the fact when children of leaders and top Industrialists stay there, it does give the host country leverage.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Sep 2011 11:47

habal wrote: Subramaniam Swamy's tweetar.

@reBel1857 : All of the 60 member Sonia mafia cartel assembled in London to discuss how not to let power slip .
4 Sep via Twitter for Android

Thanks, Swamy had also mentioned that during the 2009 elections, there was a foreign team on the ground in Delhi coordinating the EVM rigging operation. Certainly the concerns are valid, but it would be better to have clear evidence.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Sep 2011 11:55

Why Shehla was killed -

Shehla had also written letters to Union Environmental Minister Jayanti Natrajan against illegal diamond mining in Chhatarpur district of Madhya Pradesh.

The letter from Shehla to Jayanti Natrajan was written as recently as July 25, 2011. Shehla in this letter wrote that she was in the process of corroborating facts that the collector of Chhatarpur had allowed illegal mining.

In the letter, she also said a PIL to this effect had been filed against Rio Tinto and that two collectors were removed from the district after they refused to allow illegal mining.

Shehla had written similar letters to two MPs Anant Gangaram Geete, and Jeetendra Singh Bundela.

The letters were written on the letter heads of an NGO Udai of which Shehla was the president. The NGO was formed in 2004 but had moved towards wild life conservation only recently.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/police-fiddl ... 721-3.html

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Sep 2011 12:25

Singha wrote:most of our IAS/IFS/Mantris/top industrialists have sons and daughters and other family settled in western countries. until the west enjoys a significant gap in std of living and "fun factor", this will always happen. the dhimmi attitude only makes the pull stronger to "impress" and suck up to the goras.

I cannot name any top industrialist scion, political dynast kid or even bollywood baba/babylog who has not studied in a prestigious western pvt university. and in india its lawrence school sanawar, doon school, welham school and mayo college ajmer among others.

As long as the US green card has the value that it does, our babus and politicos will always be susceptible to pulls and pressures not only from the US agencies but also from the flag planters.

Pity that national pride can so very easily be compromised in this way.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 06 Sep 2011 12:40

Aditya_V wrote:Being abroad in pursuit of better living is not a problem. But we have to accept the fact when children of leaders and top Industrialists stay there, it does give the host country leverage.

I think It could work both ways.

US has enough leverage in getting free information over a cup of tea from officials based in India if we were to believe wikipees

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 06 Sep 2011 12:41

isnt MMS daughter herself taken up US citizenship and is a ACLU affiliated lawyer?
jyoti basu used to spend most of his time in london post-retirement...would his son/daughter there be a UK passport holder?

there are great dangers when the kids of political and admin elites take up foreign citizenship...for all their tyrants and corruption, we seldom see this among the arab and sinic elites....they use the west as a playground but seldom settle there and take up citizenship.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 06 Sep 2011 12:41

Singha wrote:most of our IAS/IFS/Mantris/top industrialists have sons and daughters and other family settled in western countries. until the west enjoys a significant gap in std of living and "fun factor", this will always happen. the dhimmi attitude only makes the pull stronger to "impress" and suck up to the goras.

I cannot name any top industrialist scion, political dynast kid or even bollywood baba/babylog who has not studied in a prestigious western pvt university. and in india its lawrence school sanawar, doon school, welham school and mayo college ajmer among others.

Too true only. However, there's a lag before changes on the ground reflect visibly in Dilli durbar. And the on-ground change is that the best and brightest of this country no longer are irreversibly in awe of the almighty west. Our own Prof. R Vaidya had also written on this subject I believe.

Sure, one should always leverage phoren opportunities to earn and learn but if home is where the ehart is, then uput to use that gyan, that capital and those competencies into business here in India in some form or the other. We are, I believe, seeing quite a bit of that happen as well.

Further, as the engines of the western appeal ecosystem - jobs - continue to struggle possibly (probably?) for years to come, some amount of shine is bound to come off. Just how much, we'll wait and see.

End of the day, growth is the magic mantra on which everything magical about the west is founded. When the possibility of growth recedes the way it has of late, things aren't so pretty anymore. Perhaps. JMTPs and all that.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Sep 2011 13:50

chaanakya wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:Being abroad in pursuit of better living is not a problem. But we have to accept the fact when children of leaders and top Industrialists stay there, it does give the host country leverage.
I think It could work both ways.

US has enough leverage in getting free information over a cup of tea from officials based in India if we were to believe wikipees

The underlying theory being that the info or service being provided will one day come in handy in the procurement or receipt of favors from the officials or their extended contacts.

Quid pro and hoping for a lot of future quo!!

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 06 Sep 2011 15:41

So now Amar Singh has become sarkari Jamai.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Sep 2011 16:10

Singha wrote:isnt MMS daughter herself taken up US citizenship and is a ACLU affiliated lawyer?
jyoti basu used to spend most of his time in london post-retirement...would his son/daughter there be a UK passport holder?

there are great dangers when the kids of political and admin elites take up foreign citizenship...for all their tyrants and corruption, we seldom see this among the arab and sinic elites....they use the west as a playground but seldom settle there and take up citizenship.

I wrote a long time back on this forum. A simple case of "conflict of interest" should be defined and strictly implemented. There are substantial ministers with foreign origin bahus and spouses.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 Sep 2011 17:11

Dr. Singh has ,is and always will be a true bureaucrat at heart.There is little empathy of heart within the ranks of most babus except for their personal interests.He is NOT a politician,which is why he cannot empathise with the party top brass who have one ear open for the masses as they have to get relected every election.He has never fought elections but has been parachuted into the chair of PM by his party chairperson,Mrs.SG.Though not a politico,he has been very adept at playing politics and at manipulation,the hallmark of a successful babu.

India's economic rise began a long time ago,when Mrs.G. was in power post '71 and Sanjay Gandhi started the loosening of the Licence Raj with his Maruti project.Mrs.G. visited the US too,when she was acknowledged as the "empress of India" and a small thaw emerged with India looking to a better economic relationship with the US.After her assassination Rajiv and his pals from the pvt. sector opened up the economy further and Sam Pitroda led a long list of NRIs who began to advise the GOI.After Rajiv's assassination,it was Narasimha Rao,much underrated by contemporary Indian historians who at a critical time in our economy,when devaluation hit us in the aftermath of GW1 and the oil shock,roped in Dr.Singh as FM and led the country as a good PM should-from the front taking key decisions.Unfortunately,his long -time pal Chandraswami and the antics of his son,plus the Ayodhya crisis negated and clouded his legacy.

India with a billion+ population can ride out many a global economic storm by the size of its market.Our greatest eco worry is the size of our energy bill,heavily dependent upon petroleum products.Dr. Singh has in fact been an abject disaster as far as our nuclear policies are concernd,both regarding N-energy-making us now totally dependent upon foreign N-tech and fuel,instead of following the roadmap to indigenous autonomy as laid down by Dr.Bhabha,as well as seriously damaging our N-deterent capability by succumbing to US pressure to separate our civil and N-weapons facilities.That he got the N-deal passed by parliament through fraud and the purchase of votes was a betrayal of the constitution and the people of India.His legacy will ever be remembered as presiding over the greatest post-Independence scams,his utter amoral attiitude to the plundering of the nation's wealth and his shameful dependence upon his western masters in decisions on foreign and security affairs.

http://news.in.msn.com/national/article ... id=5417168

So now the key cog in the "cash-for-votes" scandal has joined his illustrious colleagues as a guest of the state.Since we already Eastern Court,Western Court,etc.,Perhaps Tihar can now be officially renamed as Scamsters Court?

Amar Singh sent to jail in cash-for-votes scam
New Delhi: Chargesheeted in the cash-for-vote scam, Rajya Sabha MP and former Samajwadi Party leader Amar Singh was arrested on Tuesday after a Delhi court refused him bail.

Singh has been sent to judicial custody till September 19.

Also chargesheeted by the Delhi Police, former BJP MPs Faggan Singh Kulaste and Mahavir Singh Bhagora were arrested and put in judicial custody.

The other accused Sohail Hindustani and Amar Singh's aide Sanjeev Saxena are already in jail.

The sixth accused, BJP leader L K Advani's former aide Sudheendra Kulkarni - described by the Delhi Police as the "mastermind" behind the attempt to bribe BJP MPs ahead of a Lok Sabha confidence vote in 2008 -- did not appear in court today as he is in the US.

Summoned to appear before court today, Amar Singh had tried to avoid a personal appearance by pleading he was unwell.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 06 Sep 2011 18:03

Philip wrote:After Rajiv's assassination,it was Narasimha Rao,much underrated by contemporary Indian historians who at a critical time in our economy,when devaluation hit us in the aftermath of GW1 and the oil shock,roped in Dr.Singh as FM and led the country as a good PM should-from the front taking key decisions.

Didn't french newspaper Le Monde publish much before PVNR govt. that "no matter which govt. forms in India World Bank has decided that Manmohan Singh will be the next prime minister."

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 06 Sep 2011 19:38

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14800653

Another crook bites the dust...

Indian MP Amar Singh has been arrested over allegations that he offered bribes to opposition MPs to abstain from a crucial confidence vote in 2008.

A Delhi court rejected his bail plea and remanded him in custody.

At the time of the vote, Mr Singh belonged to the Socialist Party, a Congress government ally. He denies the bribery charge.

Appealing to the court to grant him bail, Amar Singh said he was ill and very weak following a kidney transplant last year for which, he said, he required intensive round-the-clock medical care.

"I lost my kidneys and I am now living on borrowed kidneys," the Press Trust of India news agency quoted him telling the judge.

"There are hazards of being in public life and there is infection in my urinary track which is dangerous for my borrowed kidney," he said.

The court rejected his plea and remanded him in custody until 19 September.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 06 Sep 2011 20:10

the Rashtra's political pyramid is unraveling. this is partly a response to the Anna/Baba movements. some "useful idiots" are now becoming "useless idiots" and hence being discarded. all this might be clever Chanakyan moves by INC, but sometimes you can be too clever for your own good. they still require a stable coalition. if they keep screwing with one ally after another, then it's hard to see how they want their allies to have confidence in them...

also, funny how it's the potential enemies and real enemies only that are biting the dust. the "friends" and the inner coterie remain untouched. apparently, all the little guys are so powerful and the big guys so powerless, that only the little guys are looting and big guys can't stop it...