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India raises the issue of 'disproportionate' travel advisories
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Taking serious note of the travel advisories against it, India [ Images ] on Wednesday raised the issue with Australia [ Images ], New Zealand [ Images ] and Canada [ Images ] asking them to withdraw issuance of such notices which have "disproportionate" language and were contrary to the current tourist trend.
Minister of External Affairs S M Krishna [ Images ], who is in Perth to attend the CHOGM foreign ministers Meeting, held talks with his Australian, Kiwi and Canadian counterparts and raised the issue in detail, official sources told PTI.Krishna asked his Australian counterpart Kevin Rudd [ Images ] to withdraw issuance of travel advisory for tourists traveling to India."The language in advisory is rather disproportionate and contrary to the current trend of tourism to India," he told Rudd.Responding to Krishna, Rudd said such advisories were "routine" advice and "we do not have any information of any specific threat to share with India."Meanwhile, during Krishna's meetings with his Kiwi counterpart Murray McCully, New Zealand assured it will look into the matter, sources said.McCully said the advisory was meant to make his citizens aware to avoid all rallies and demonstrations.
Later in his bilateral meeting with New Zealand Foreign Minister Murray McCully, Krishna raised the issue of travel advisories.McCully assured Krishna that he will look into the matter, saying "the advisory is an awareness to avoid all rallies and demonstrations."
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Responding to Krishna, Rudd said such advisories were "routine" advice and "we do not have any information of any specific threat to share with India.
So what prompted him to issue the routine advisory around Diwali? was this a coordinated response with Canada, ANZUS?
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Responding to Krishna, Rudd said such advisories were "routine" advice and "we do not have any information of any specific threat to share with India.
Its time that the GOI responded in kind and issued an travel advisory of Islamic terror and then claim hat we have no specific threat to share with India.

This is a an example of coordinated psy-ops. In order to put India down.
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I think, if any country issues travel advisories against India, we should go on the offensive and say that these countries are not sharing vital intelligence with India, and if any attacks do occur, India would hold these countries responsible of complicity and manslaughter.

And if India is too dangerous for their citizens, then it is too dangerous for their diplomatic personnel and businessmen as well, so we throw them out as well. We can ask their ambassador to leave.

That would give their ambassadors to reason to rethink what they should be advising their governments back home!
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Pakistani hacks govt. websites
Claiming to retaliate the defacement of Pakistani websites by Indian hackers, a Pakistani hacker defaced pages on eight Indian government websites on Thursday and posted objectionable messages on the hacked pages.

According to zone-h.org, a website which runs a mirror of all the defaced or hacked websites, the Pakistani hacker identified as ‘khantastic haXOr,’ defaced five pages of the website belonging to Indian telecom giant BSNL, a website of Indian meteorological department in Kolkata (www.imdkolkata.gov.in/webdata), Jute Corporation of India (www.jci.gov.in), and a page on the website of Chennai Metro Rail (chennaimetrorail.gov.in/logs).

In the message posted on the defaced pages, the hacker maintained that he had deleted and copied the databases of the websites. Most of the websites continued to return the hacked pages when checked on Thursday evening, while some of them returned 404-page not found messages.
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RajeshA ji

I think it would be better to give a reciprocal response by issuing Advisories against travel to these countries clearly indicating that Indians could be target of Racial attacks with Police being soft on such perpetrators> Also to be mentioned that these countries have been soft on terror and terrorists and criminals found shelter in these countries while plotting against India and Indian interests.

Sending Ambys would invite similar response and probably not good for our interest. We can say that we are awaiting response from these countries on action taken by them to address our concerns before lifting advisories.
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chaanakya ji,

we have to take into consideration the asymmetry between the standard of living of the people in our country and the other "Western" countries, as well as the capital the businesses have available.

We have to do some calculations. If there are travel advisories against India, India of course loses money - from tourism - hotels, conferences, shopkeepers all lose money. Also there be a downturn in investments and business in India.

If India issues travel advisories against these countries, I am not sure many Indians would really follow them. In the case of students most probably because it is a long-term investment, but in case of tourism and business travel probably less so! Secondly it is also the question, whether these countries are really dependent on Indian tourist dollars, and if our travel advisories would really hurt them. Many Western politicians may be so racist that they would welcome if less Indians travel to their countries or migrate to them - even to immigration lands like USA, Canada, Australia, NZ, etc. At some point in time, it would start hurting them but I don't believe the time has come.

What we actually should do is that any politician in a Western country who takes up an anti-Indian stand - be it in Australia, UK or elsewhere, those politicians should come on the blacklist! Indian money and Indian diaspora in the respective country should ensure that these politicians lose terribly at the electoral Hustings next time. An anti-Indian stance should be on par with suicide for any Western politician. We should be having so much influence with the various constituencies and lobbies in those countries, that any anti-Indian act activates those groups and they pounce on the politician and bring him down. The Indian diaspora should act like a united vote-bank on those issues.
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RajeshA ji

I am aware of asymmetric nature of any responses that we may offer. Same goes for Ambys.

These travel advisories are issued very routinely by Western Countries against India. However travel does not dip by large numbers nor investment goes down. The trend is up most of the time. These advisories gives bad image for India when economy is growing at better rate. I think these advisories give them pleasure of being morally superior and making individual travel little costly. Immigration and other issues may not be so relevant here.

By issuing counter advisories indicating that these countries have failed in certain international obligations, which they vouch for so fondly ,we would dent their H&D and ego. If they contest we can take the "looking into this " option or if they don't then it implies that they agree to our formulations which would be contrary to their stated policies.

As for PIO/NRIs acting a united votebank , I think it is desirable but different opinions would prevent this from happening. India needs to work on this and perhaps tell PIO/NRIs what our current interests are and then see how they respond. This would work only if we are clear as to what our interests are. Discussions on BRF is a pointer to the contrary.

Expulsion of Ambys is more like hard option short of declaring them enemy.
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chaanakya wrote:By issuing counter advisories indicating that these countries have failed in certain international obligations, which they vouch for so fondly ,we would dent their H&D and ego. If they contest we can take the "looking into this " option or if they don't then it implies that they agree to our formulations which would be contrary to their stated policies.
Travel Advisories are meant for one's own citizens, and are meant to warn them of any dangers of traveling to some country. An evaluation of some country's performance on some metrics we deem as important can take place through some reports by some commissions only.

For example, we can evaluate measures like
  1. cooperation in fighting organized crime
  2. efforts to fight extremism
  3. cooperation in fighting anti-Indian terrorism
  4. cooperation in fighting fraud and tax evasion
  5. cooperation in fighting racism against Indians
We can put that in a report. We can also make a report on anti-Indian statements of certain politicians. Local Indian diaspora should themselves be giving report cards to various politicians including on their tilt towards constituencies and people and countries who are against India.
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If we have a well defined policy, that is not abstracted out to play into random decision makers, and help standardize on what our interests are at a real high level, and all the way down to a level enough to see the ground rules within the scope of those interests, then we have established a set of windows through people will start viewing us. This should also help various NGOs, External Agencies, PIOs and the GoI itself to deliver what is really required, and allow only what is expected within such a framework.

Lobbies et al will be self sustaining there after..
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At a high level, India without the Dharmic culture ( I mean culture...,not necessarily religion). Dharmic culture as in culture of the Hindus, Sikhs, Jains, Parsies, non evangelical desi christians, non Islamist desi Muslims, India would become nothing more than a giant HAITI where evangelical pastors and priests are predatory over each others flock like in some latin and central American countries. There is serious pouching and flock stealing war going on in Latin and Souther American countries between Southern Baptists and the Vatican.

So anyone working to destroy or replace this Dharmic culture with a Jealous god supremacist culture should out rightly banned. Same for communists/Maoists.

Latin American countries have a natural collusion between church and communists...Together they instigate class warfare. Same thing going on with some christian NGOs and Maoists in India.

Unless this trend is stopped in India, in another 100 years the church/evangelical NGOs with the help of the leftists, India is destined to become the giant Haiti or Guatemala of Asia.
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Acharya wrote:Who has said that 'consensus around national identity is missing'. The media and the state is used to suppress the national identity. This may be deliberate and is part of long social engineering
Replace national identity with constitutional identity then. There was a consensus around having a strong central power, to the extent that states unwilling to buy into that were left to go form Pakistan. That consensus seems to be breaking down in favour of having more power in the states, with the centre trying to reassert itself under UPA.
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RajeshA wrote:
Travel Advisories are meant for one's own citizens, and are meant to warn them of any dangers of traveling to some country. An evaluation of some country's performance on some metrics we deem as important can take place through some reports by some commissions only.

For example, we can evaluate measures like
  1. cooperation in fighting organized crime
  2. efforts to fight extremism
  3. cooperation in fighting anti-Indian terrorism
  4. cooperation in fighting fraud and tax evasion
  5. cooperation in fighting racism against Indians
We can put that in a report. We can also make a report on anti-Indian statements of certain politicians. Local Indian diaspora should themselves be giving report cards to various politicians including on their tilt towards constituencies and people and countries who are against India.
Then let us not take travel advisories issued by CANZUS as indictment of India. If they want to warn their citizens , it is their business.

Have we come out with any such report.? That should be done and I think this idea is very good.

On a side note Reciprocation is good in international relations when one can afford it and without much cost. So counter travel advisories might just serve the purpose rather than having verbal diarrhea from SMK
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chaanakya wrote:Then let us not take travel advisories issued by CANZUS as indictment of India. If they want to warn their citizens , it is their business.

Have we come out with any such report.? That should be done and I think this idea is very good.
chaanakya ji,

IMO, we cannot really do much about those travel advisories. Any government is duty-bound to warn its citizens if the government feels there is a threat to their lives and welfare in some part of the world.

But those travel advisories do hurt us. They work to undermine the image that India wants to project as a stable country open for business and tourism. So I think, there has to be some penalty somewhere!

Since the travel advisory is usually the work of the foreign ministry, I think the foreign ministry should also pay some price. I do agree with you, that throwing out the ambassador is a big thing. But here is another idea.

If a country does issue a travel advisory against India, India should heavily curtail the movement of the diplomats of that country. The diplomats should not be allowed to travel to other parts of India outside the city where they have embassies and consulates. Even within the city itself, their cars should be stopped at some places and asked to return back as the area to which they are going is not stable. We should make those diplomats have to suffer those travel advisories on themselves.

Also the access of those diplomats to GoI should also become curtailed.
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10/27 ... dian-game/
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54 Million IDs, 25,000 Sq. Feet, And 1 Massive Goal: Inside India's Biometric Database Project
http://www.fastcompany.com/1790909/indi ... x?partner=
The organizers of India's biometric project, "Aadhaar," celebrated one year of its launch at the end of September, with a small party at its Bangalore offices. Since begun in September 2010, the project has scanned irises and fingerprinted Indians across the country, and has so far issued 54 million IDs, with the hope of meeting a goal of 200 million by the end 2012.
At the Aadhaar Technology Center in Bangalore, software engineers, research scientists, visiting professors, volunteers and government officials are working to keep the databases and servers running hitch-free, clearing backlogs, and building new applications to navigate and control the quickly expanding database.
"The technology center is the heart of the whole project," R. S. Sharma, the director general of the Unique Identification Authority of India--the administrative body that owns Aadhaar--tells Fast Company.
Over the past year, the registration rate has grown, and data centers in Bangalore and Delhi are now fielding 1 million new registrations every day. The southern state Andra Pradesh anticipates that all their residents will be registered by 2012.When new data for an individual comes in, it is checked against every existing record--a process called de-duplication. This ensures that each person only signs up once--but it's also a computation that will grow exponentially as both, the size of the database and the number of registrations per day grows.
But the Technology Center is growing, too. Ashok Dalwai, the deputy director general and head of the tech center says that the tech center space expanded from 9000 square feet six months ago, to 25,000 square feet in total today. And they're angling for 26,000 square feet more. Dalwai won't say how many more people they've employed to get through the work, but says that one of Aadhaar's software developer partners, Mindtree, has added 200 features to the back end database management system in this last year alone, bumping it up to over 600 features today. Because the project has grown so quickly, the challenges that the administrators are looking at have changed quite significantly from one year ago. "We are comfortable that the system works," Sharma says. "Now it's the scalability and ensuring that there are no backlogs developing at any stage of the system." The administrators are also working to develop their relationship with partners--like banks--who will eventually use the ID service. This month, biometric scanners and ID authenticators have begun to be tested in parts of KarnatakaIndia's biometrics project has the potential to do much good. It could give millions of un-registered Indians an ID and with it, the ability to open bank accounts, receive government aid, and more. As an entirely digital project, with encrypted data going straight from the databases to the banks and other services who would use them, it has the potential to jump over another hurdle that often trips up Indian government operations: corruption
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vera_k wrote:
Acharya wrote:Who has said that 'consensus around national identity is missing'. The media and the state is used to suppress the national identity. This may be deliberate and is part of long social engineering
Replace national identity with constitutional identity then. There was a consensus around having a strong central power, to the extent that states unwilling to buy into that were left to go form Pakistan. That consensus seems to be breaking down in favour of having more power in the states, with the centre trying to reassert itself under UPA.
That is contradictory. there is nothing called as constitutional identity.
India is not a banana republic where we keep making some new identity. Indians have been around for more than few centuries and Indians have a shared future and part of larger struggle
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Prem wrote:54 Million IDs, 25,000 Sq. Feet, And 1 Massive Goal: Inside India's Biometric Database Project
http://www.fastcompany.com/1790909/indi ... x?partner=
The organizers of India's biometric project, "Aadhaar," celebrated one year of its launch at the end of September, with a small party at its Bangalore offices. Since begun in September 2010, the project has scanned irises and fingerprinted Indians across the country, and has so far issued 54 million IDs, with the hope of meeting a goal of 200 million by the end 2012.
At the Aadhaar Technology Center in Bangalore, software engineers, research scientists, visiting professors, volunteers and government officials are working to keep the databases and servers running hitch-free, clearing backlogs, and building new applications to navigate and control the quickly expanding database.
"The technology center is the heart of the whole project," R. S. Sharma, the director general of the Unique Identification Authority of India--the administrative body that owns Aadhaar--tells Fast Company.
Over the past year, the registration rate has grown, and data centers in Bangalore and Delhi are now fielding 1 million new registrations every day. The southern state Andra Pradesh anticipates that all their residents will be registered by 2012.When new data for an individual comes in, it is checked against every existing record--a process called de-duplication. This ensures that each person only signs up once--but it's also a computation that will grow exponentially as both, the size of the database and the number of registrations per day grows.
But the Technology Center is growing, too. Ashok Dalwai, the deputy director general and head of the tech center says that the tech center space expanded from 9000 square feet six months ago, to 25,000 square feet in total today. And they're angling for 26,000 square feet more. Dalwai won't say how many more people they've employed to get through the work, but says that one of Aadhaar's software developer partners, Mindtree, has added 200 features to the back end database management system in this last year alone, bumping it up to over 600 features today. Because the project has grown so quickly, the challenges that the administrators are looking at have changed quite significantly from one year ago. "We are comfortable that the system works," Sharma says. "Now it's the scalability and ensuring that there are no backlogs developing at any stage of the system." The administrators are also working to develop their relationship with partners--like banks--who will eventually use the ID service. This month, biometric scanners and ID authenticators have begun to be tested in parts of KarnatakaIndia's biometrics project has the potential to do much good. It could give millions of un-registered Indians an ID and with it, the ability to open bank accounts, receive government aid, and more. As an entirely digital project, with encrypted data going straight from the databases to the banks and other services who would use them, it has the potential to jump over another hurdle that often trips up Indian government operations: corruption
Of course - but given the current political regime, and the underlying rashtryia wings and functionaries - this will only add to corruption. The data will be used by those who are already powerful, the banks for example or the secret services, or the lackeys of the political regime. Its one more apparently innocent but potentially devastating weapon in the hands of a ruthlessly greedy and egoistic political-financial-mercantile-criminal network.

It will never touch corruption where it is most intense - in the layered structure of concentric rings of influence and power centred around the dynastic coterie and the rashtryia functionaries handpicked to serve their interests. The closer one goes to the inner rings - lesser is the appearance of their names in corruption witchhunts. Believeable?!!! Or reasonable? an island of purity never ever sullied in 64 years in the middle of an ocean of corruption?!
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RajeshA wrote:
chaanakya wrote:Then let us not take travel advisories issued by CANZUS as indictment of India. If they want to warn their citizens , it is their business.

Have we come out with any such report.? That should be done and I think this idea is very good.
chaanakya ji,

IMO, we cannot really do much about those travel advisories. Any government is duty-bound to warn its citizens if the government feels there is a threat to their lives and welfare in some part of the world.

But those travel advisories do hurt us. They work to undermine the image that India wants to project as a stable country open for business and tourism. So I think, there has to be some penalty somewhere!

Since the travel advisory is usually the work of the foreign ministry, I think the foreign ministry should also pay some price. I do agree with you, that throwing out the ambassador is a big thing. But here is another idea.

If a country does issue a travel advisory against India, India should heavily curtail the movement of the diplomats of that country. The diplomats should not be allowed to travel to other parts of India outside the city where they have embassies and consulates. Even within the city itself, their cars should be stopped at some places and asked to return back as the area to which they are going is not stable. We should make those diplomats have to suffer those travel advisories on themselves.

Also the access of those diplomats to GoI should also become curtailed.
It should not become something that GOI did some years back. Preventing overfly of Pakistani airplanes which we eventually allowed as India was hurt more due to detour planes flying in and out of Indian air space.

Diplomatic movement is only with permissions out side the designated city. So it would not be difficult to impose this restrictions but we might have to suffer more given the large community of expatriates in these countries.
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Route map of Advani's Jan Chetna Yatra
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BJP seems to have no interest in certain areas in states and states altogether like Andhra Pradesh, Ladakh, certain NE states, WB, TN.....not a Sampoorn Jan Chetna Yatra.
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Venkarl wrote:Route map of Advani's Jan Chetna Yatra


BJP seems to have no interest in certain areas in states and states altogether like Andhra Pradesh, Ladakh, certain NE states, WB, TN.....not a Sampoorn Jan Chetna Yatra.
Advani is not all of BJP, but why waste time in places where you have no chance of winning.
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Aditya_V wrote:
Venkarl wrote:Route map of Advani's Jan Chetna Yatra


BJP seems to have no interest in certain areas in states and states altogether like Andhra Pradesh, Ladakh, certain NE states, WB, TN.....not a Sampoorn Jan Chetna Yatra.
Advani is not all of BJP, but why waste time in places where you have no chance of winning.
Maybe the calculation is that elections are further away on those spots. But it will be a mistake not to pay attention to the areas "left out". All those areas not directly or closely connected in route-map - especially the eastern coast up to WB, will be ripe over the next two-three years to open account. Small beginnings.
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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 29,00.html
Charity Case: Do India's Rich Give Enough Away?
( Applying Western Framework, Charity for Glory)
As the U.S. and Europe inch toward the holiday season, Indian festivities are already in full swing. The Hindu holiday of Diwali, a week of celebrations that finishes Friday, is one of the country's biggest festivals. Like Christmas, it is mixture of bright lights, commerce and charity. Neighbors exchange gifts, bosses dole out bonuses, and temples are typically flush with donations. With its economy on the rise, India is now, more than ever, a country with money to spend, and give. As shoppers flood markets looking for gifts, it's clear that many Indians are indeed spending big on friends and family. But research suggests that charitable giving is not necessarily keeping pace.Earlier this year, billionaire philanthropists Bill Gates and Warren Buffett arrived in India to try to convince India's wealthiest that they could, and should, do more. India is now home to 57 billionaires, according to Forbes, and a multiplying number of millionaires. Despite difficult economic times around the globe, over the past two years, India's 20 wealthiest individuals have doubled their combined wealth, according to Bain & Co. However, India's superrich have been relatively slow to give. Bain & Co.'s 2011 India Philanthropy Report found that India's wealthy are giving away between 1.5% and 3% of their yearly income. The number marks an increase, but still pales in comparison with the 9% donated each year in the U.S. And while the philanthropic numbers of the country's wealthy may still be lagging, that doesn't mean that Indians without fortunes to bankroll a charity don't give. "Traditionally, giving has been comprised of giving within own communities, religious institutions and in-kind donations — like clothes or sponsoring a child's education," says Sanghavi. "So there may not be money passing through nonprofit organizations, but goods and services passed to the individual directly, and there's never been a record of that giving."
Instead of giving to charities, the most popular form of giving is donations to temples, which in turn open schools and hospitals for the poor. "In the West there are a lot of things that are taken for granted that the state will provide," says Das. "Here these things are provided through the private sector, individuals and community institutions, like the temple. That means, in India, people have to look after their own through the joint family, caste and other community institutions
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Aditya_V wrote:
Venkarl wrote:Route map of Advani's Jan Chetna Yatra


BJP seems to have no interest in certain areas in states and states altogether like Andhra Pradesh, Ladakh, certain NE states, WB, TN.....not a Sampoorn Jan Chetna Yatra.
Advani is not all of BJP, but why waste time in places where you have no chance of winning.
BJP is planning for 5 MLA from TN by the next elections
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I hope our Rajaram is one of them.
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http://www.bharatrakshak.com/NEWS/newsr ... wsid=16333

now, I don't understand this part:
The meeting was informed that internal mechanism used for encryption of calls could not be applied on any communication system outside the control of Indian territory, thereby, prohibiting any gradation for Indian encryption device to be given to the foreign partners.
Interception can happen in DMZs, if used as medium to communicate. If hotlines, are used, still the encryption means, the other side needs have an Indian device. I am thinking, there is an desi-encryption <-> firang encryption converter devices that is needed. Am I reading this correct?

I would suggest the firangs to use a phone device that we provide to talk to us... that way, it is controlled device. The decryption is only available to the device owner, perhaps with three factor authentication.
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This review of Maino Mataam's biography by Rani Singh is quite hilarious, starting with the cringe worthy cover photo


http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis ... -our-midst

The cover of Rani Singh's "Sonia Gandhi" shows the leader, smiling in a red sari, actually touching a grey mass of humanity, humble in black and white tones. None of them are smiling, perhaps because they experience a lifestyle not fully congruent with the UPA chairperson's. There is desperation in their faces, in seven decades of "freedom", that has willed them to believe that a darshan of Sonia Gandhi may take away their poverty. Rani Singh does not tell us if indeed this has been the case, or if they have merely been herded back to their hovels after the encounter from a person who may as well have come from another planet, so complete is the disconnect between their lives and hers.

Although others have placed the trajectory towards wealth of the Maino family as having begun in the 1980s period after Sanjay Gandhi died, when a grieving Indira Gandhi presided over a flow of nearly six dozen orders to Snamprogetti, Rani Singh implies that the family was prosperous from the start, staying in a commodious villa in Lusiana. Despite his affluence, Stefano Maino sent his younger daughter to the UK to work at odd jobs after dropping out of school at 14, perhaps to better understand working class life. There, as Rani Singh recounts, Sonia was a free spirit, naturally popular with others, very "open-minded", in the view of her buddy Hans Loeser. She was clearly "one of the most beautiful women" in Cambridge, a location known for a goodly share of shapely forms. It was clear from the start that Rajiv Ratan Birjees Gandhi was smitten by her, travelling to Italy in 1966 to meet her parents, who asked Sonia to wait a year, during which she "took on occasional interpreting assignments at conferences". Ms Singh does not mention the languages involved in these assignments. Aware of the high cost of paper, she is understandably parsimonious on details.

It is to Rani Singh that we owe the knowledge that the present Congress president is an excellent cook, and that she took care of the Nehru family household single-handedly, if we exclude a dozen-odd servants. "Sonia, the most domesticated lady in the home, used to do all of the housework and the cooking." Life must have been hard, but despite backbreaking toil, she became an expert in "fabric texture and design", and in personal diplomacy at the highest level, helping Indira Gandhi to make a good impression on other heads of government. Almost from the start, beginning in the 1970s, Edwige Antonia Albina Maino Gandhi "displayed a clear awareness of national and international events". She was "docile, accommodating and quietly affectionate", qualities not recounted by Congress functionaries to their own confidants in private. Most importantly, she "severed all contacts with Italy" soon after her marriage in 1968, although she retained her Italian passport, perhaps out of sentiment.

It is to Rani Singh that we owe the knowledge that the present Congress president is an excellent cook, and that she took care of the Nehru family household single-handedly, if we exclude a dozen-odd servants. “Sonia, the most domesticated lady in the home, used to do all of the housework and the cooking.” Life must have been hard, but despite backbreaking toil, she became an expert in “fabric tex
Vinod Mehta, a celebrated authority on Sonia Gandhi, informs us that "the speaking of Hindi was encouraged" in the household. Which means that the gossip that Sonia, Rajiv and their children spoke to each other only in Italian must be a vicious slander on a quintessentially Indian family. The other daughter-in-law, Maneka, has only a bit part in Rani Singh's book, which is certain to be made into a Bollywood film before the 2014 elections. As for Sanjay Gandhi, "any reforms that took place during the Emergency were neutralised by Sanjay and his coterie", who "exercised their authority without restraint", in contrast to the docile bride of Rajiv Gandhi.

We owe to Rani Singh the insight that Jawaharlal Nehru was not "dynastically driven". It must therefore have been torture for him to have appointed his daughter as Congress president, and propelled her into prominence. Fortunately for Indira Gandhi, her eldest son married a woman who not only cooked and cleaned, but "started several centres where illiterate women were helped to become independent". Her "deep knowledge of Indian textiles" must have been invaluable in such selfless effort. And as for the canard that Rajiv as PM allowed Sikhs to be butchered in 1984, Rani Singh corrects the record. "He spoke to officers that this should be controlled." He could hardly be blamed if the officers did not listen to his entreaties. For Sonia, her husband becoming the PM was a horror. She would have much preferred to go off with him to a village in UP, speaking in the Avdi dialect that she knew so well, as the book tells us.


Although a scholar, Sonia could be a lady of few words, as Wajahat Habibullah found out after giving her a rambling dissertation on the beauty of Lakshwadeep. Her reply was succinct "Yes". Perhaps she was eager to get away from the loquacious official and be with her Italian family who then, as now, cluster around her on every occasion, strengthening her in the immense nation-building tasks that Sonia Gandhi is daily fulfilling. It helps that she, in Rani Singh's words, is "much better than some odd-looking male figures from the past", perhaps alluding to Lal Bahadur Shastri or P.V. Narasimha Rao, both of whom would have been out of place on Sloane Street.

Rani Singh is clearly a fearless investigative journalist, completely free of bias. She has given the world an honest, unbiased portrait of a saint. Hopefully, the Nobel Committee in Stockholm will take note of this valuable addition to the efforts of other Nehru family aficionados, when they award the 2012 Peace Prize.
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^^^ It would be a tragedy if this person gets away with the loot and exploitation of India. Even this person escaping to Europe should not suffice. This individual needs to be tried along with the foreign family which has it's fingers in many pies.
BTW does anyone have pictures of this individuals sisters?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-15532919
Rising wages in India leads to expanding waistlines
Medical experts in India say rising incomes in the country are leading to expanding waistlines.Almost one in five Indian adults is now overweight, and officials are being urged to slim down. Police officers are being told to take regular exercise and some politicians are resorting to weight loss surgery
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Watch the video
Politicians are main custometr of Tummy tucking !!
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Extract from Rani Singhs eulogy to Sonia Maino. Some of the points highlighted are very telling:

http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... 5C/453298/

A fiery Italian temper'
Veenu Sandhu / New Delhi October 22, 2011, 0:51 IST

Besides Karma, Ruth, and Sonia, the tenants of 55 Tenison Road were mostly language students, and others were at Cambridge University. At different periods, they included a South Asian mathematician, a young Cambridge-area girl named Christine, a German fellow called Thilo Dilthey, and Hans Loeser, a German at the university who stayed for three months one summer. Loeser did not socialize with Sonia and Rajiv outside the house but he did observe that Sonia was quite active: “Very often she was out of the house, she was not very sedentary…all of us were young and going out in the evenings.”

He remembers that various guests of different tenants, including young language teachers would visit at Tenison Road, too. There was always something going on; Thilo Dilthey recalls going to Silverstone with Sonia and Rajiv to watch some car racing. In Cambridge, just as in Giaveno, Sonia was not remembered as being at all retiring; that was a side to her character that would emerge later on in India. “I wouldn’t describe her as being shy. Definitely not! She was very open-minded!” Loeser declares. (Hmmmm.. we all know what that means)


She also sometimes displayed a certain fiery Italian temper. One night Loeser and another young man (possibly one of the language teachers) were in the communal kitchen. He remembers the incident because he saw a revealing aspect of Sonia’s personality. She “was cooking spaghetti…she had done everything (to get it ready).” Behind her back, the young man added to the dish “some white powder used in cooking as a taste intensifier, sodium glutamate; if you take too much of it, it doesn’t taste very well. He must have put in quite a dose. We — the young man and I — had been drinking, and we were giggling. Sonia must have noticed that he had prepared something to tease her, and she turned around quite suddenly, astonished, and without saying anything, put the hot spaghetti on his head. He was shouting, and finally laughing; it was really quite funny.” Sonia clearly knew how to make a point in a memorable way.

According to Loeser, Sonia did not suffer any financial problems; she “obviously had enough money even by the end of the month” when he and his friends “sometimes ran out of pocket money”. (And how would a school dropout at age 14 have enough money at the end of the month - her family was struggling at that time) He believes the relationship between Sonia and her family was good because they were “in close contact,” and Cherry Yorke describes Sonia then as “quite comfortably off.” Another Cambridge friend of Rajiv’s, Tahir Jahangir, remembers Sonia as always being “well dressed, well turned out.”(Maybe Subramaniun Swamy is right about what she was up to)

At the time, the Cambridge male-to-female ratio was 12 to 1, so naturally, with her long dark hair and slim figure, Sonia was one of the most beautiful women in town (this has to be an embellishment - those beady little eyes). Loeser and his friend Thilo Dilthey felt that she was aware of her striking good looks. He recalls Dilthey remarking to him once, “She’s very pretty, but unfortunately, somebody must have told her.” From being a playful child in Giaveno, Sonia had grown into a self-assured young woman. Rajiv was a keen photographer, and as the couple grew close, Sonia became his favourite subject.
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So Nabam Tuki the new chief minister of Arunachal which is a predominantly heathen state and where evangelists are wreaking havoc is guess what - A catholic.
This bias and attempt to change demography by top honcho is completely unaccepatable.

Below is profile - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_i ... al_Pradesh

Nabam Tuki is probably supposed to play a YSR role of extracting resources (mining in AP is huge) and converting the pagans. This is absolutely terrible and troublesome that a small socio-politico group has seized power in the country irrespective of qualifications.
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Pratyush wrote:Gujarat accounts for 6% of India's dubious bank transactions

Another hit job against Gujarat.
From the above link,
Out of the total 17,209 dubious transactions reported across India in four financial years from March 2006 to March 2010, Gujarat accounted for around 1,032 or 6 per cent of the country. However, the only silver lining is that the state is way behind Maharashtra, which leads the pack of such transactions with 29 per cent, Delhi with 12.1 per cent and West Bengal with 7.3 per cent.
So we got reporters trying to ignore other states. Words like silver lining have been redefined, so that these could be misused to hide much worse while pointing out something.
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Idiots. Not even sophisticated about it. Look at the comments section, they're being repeatedly kicked in the vitals...
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^^ FIU report does not contain above information. TOIlet would have some other source for the report. The only figure I found was 17209 and there is no state wise list. TOILet is truly toilet.
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Revealing comment by a reader about corrupt practices by India's middle class, that says that middle class hero Nehru stole the "Tryst With Destiny" speech from one made by Roosevelt in 1936.

India's middle class appears to shed political apathy
This a country that began with her first prime minister, Nehru, plagiarizing the Roosevelt 1936 speech (Rendezvous with Destiny) with his 'Tryst with Destiny' opening salvo.
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^^^Its called "refactoring".
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