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Russia's Mars dream ends, and now a toxic nightmare begins as its crippled fuel-filled probe heads back down to earth
Russia's space agency has all but given up hope of saving a £100million spacecraft that was bound for Mars but conked out shortly after launch.

Engineers had three days to fix a problem that caused the Phobos-Grunt probe to shut down before batteries aboard the craft died for good.

The engines that were supposed to propel it on its way to the red planet failed to ignite, and any attempts to correct the failure seemed doomed when scientists admitted that they couldn't even establish communications with the craft.
Now that the deadline has come and gone, Phobos-Grunt will run out of battery life and begin a decaying orbit around the Earth until it - and the 12 tons of dangerous fuel it is carrying - makes an unwelcome and uncontrolled return to the surface.
^ Can it please fall on pakhanastan now that they are full members of SCO etc :mrgreen:
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Navy conducts JSOW C-1 free-flight testing
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The Navy completes the first free-flight testing of the Joint Standoff Weapon C-1 variant at Point Mugu Sea Range Calif., July 26.(U.S. Navy photo)
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Maybe they can't this keep this plane in the air for more than 1 hour at a time...but, this short take-off and climb rate is friggin amazing :eek:



Another video of the same event albeit shot from a little further away http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTTqUULfc2w

Noobie question, this kind of a take off would only be possible when the plane is carrying almost next to nothing right?
And if they have so many problems with the newer materials i.e. stealth skin of this aircraft....why can't they simply use contemporary materials and build something similar? With this kind of performance it can still give any 4.5 gen aircraft a run for its money....
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Report confirms UK Harrier sale to US

Super-Duper F-35 fails to inspire confidence with the Marine Corps! Also means we can't have those Harriers now. :(
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USMC snaps up mothballed RAF Harriers.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/15/harriers_saved/

Extract: "The F-35B will be very expensive to buy and operate for a long time, however, and the Marines will be glad to be able to keep flying Harriers well into the 2020s rather than having to buy cripplingly expensive F-35Bs in large numbers early on in the F-35 production run when prices will be high."
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PratikDas wrote:
Navy conducts JSOW C-1 free-flight testing
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The Navy completes the first free-flight testing of the Joint Standoff Weapon C-1 variant at Point Mugu Sea Range Calif., July 26.(U.S. Navy photo)
Rather than using missiles, this could be a cheaper way to take out Pirates from the air.
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Incredibly foolish of the British to sell proven Harriers in the prime of their lives and buy JSF that is being agonizingly tested.
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Pentagon successfully tests hypersonic flying bomb
The Pentagon on Thursday held a successful test flight of a flying bomb that travels faster than the speed of sound and will give military planners the ability to strike targets anywhere in the world in less than a hour.

Launched by rocket from Hawaii at 1130 GMT, the "Advanced Hypersonic Weapon," or AHW, glided through the upper atmosphere over the Pacific "at hypersonic speed" before hitting its target on the Kwajalein atoll in the Marshall Islands, a Pentagon statement said.
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*drumroll* so finally a new line of 30,000lb (13t) GPS guided bunker buster bombs enters delivery phase. meant for the B2 initially though surely the B52 and B1 can also cart it around...produced over 4 yrs by Boeing phantom works...so highly classified technologies for sure.

word around the watercooler is that it can get through 300 feet of concrete.

http://www.catholic.org/national/nation ... p?id=43715
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 64221.html

US army tests hypersonic weapon

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The US army has conducted its first flight test of a new weapon capable of traveling five times the speed of sound.

The Army launched the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon from the military's Pacific Missile Range Facility on Kauai at about 1:30 a.m.

The weapon's "glide vehicle" reached Kwajalein Atoll — some 2,300 miles away — in less than half an hour, said Lt. Col. Melinda Morgan, a Pentagon spokeswoman.

Earlier this year, the Congressional Research Service said in a report the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon is part of the military's program to develop "prompt global strike" weapons that would allow the U.S. to strike targets anywhere in the world with conventional weapons in as little as an hour.

The Air Force and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, are developing a similar vehicle.

The Pentagon said the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon, or AHW, vehicle is designed to fly long ranges within the earth's atmosphere at speeds that are at least five times the speed of sound.

The objective of Thursday's test was to collect data on technologies that boost the hypersonic vehicle and allow it to glide. The Army was also testing how the vehicle performed in long-range flight.

The Congressional Research Service report said the AHW would be able to maneuver to avoid flying over third party nations as it approached its target. The weapon would use a precision guidance system to home in on the target, it said.
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Russia, France to team up on ‘hi-tech rockets’
Russia and France will pool their efforts to build cutting-edge reusable space rockets, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Friday.

“Russian and French engineers are already working in this direction under Project Ural,” Putin told a news conference after a meeting of the Russian-French cooperation commission.

The Russian Federal Space Agency Roscosmos and its French counterpart, Centre National d'Études Spatiales (CNES), are expected to work out a roadmap for bilateral space cooperation.

The 15-year Ural program to build advanced reusable carrier rockets was adopted in 2005.

CNES Director Yannick d'Escatha has said Project Ural is part of a new rocket launch system that will replace existing carriers.

The project is still at the conceptual stage as the type of rocket engine - hydrogen, kerosene or methane fueled - has yet to be determined.

It was earlier reported that the future Ural rocket will be a reusable one, fueled by liquid hydrogen and liquid methane, and should supersede the Russian Soyuz and French Ariane carriers some time in 2020-30.
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Not military related, but just wanted to post.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/ ... e-20111116
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/ ... m-20111117
"Bloemfontein - A pilot who managed to land a small jet despite being paralysed on his left side by a brain haemorrhage during the flight was declared brain-dead on Tuesday.

Bloemfontein pilot Danie Minnie, 43, was being treated in Bloemfontein’s Life Rosepark Hospital, said hospital spokesperson Esmarie Cronjé.

On Sunday Minnie was flying to Johannesburg to fetch a Bloemfontein businessman, Marius Eksteen, when he suffered a haemorrhage.

While he was waiting to land in Johannesburg he started to vomit and decided to turn back to Bloemfontein.?

He kept in constant contact with his wife, Odette, and with air traffic controllers.

Confused

They all realised something was seriously wrong when Minnie started to sound confused.

Nevertheless, he managed a perfect landing and phoned Eksteen to tell him he had no feeling on his left side, but that the plane was safely parked in a hangar.

Jannie Minnie, his brother, who is a pilot from Harrismith, said Odette told him that Minnie became paralysed as he flew over Welkom.

“When Odette got to the airport my brother grabbed her hand and kissed her, telling her he loved her,” said Minnie.

Eksteen said he became concerned when Minnie didn’t arrive to fly him home.

After the phone call he hired a car to drive back to Bloemfontein.

Cronjé said Dr Dan Hugo, the neurologist who treated Minnie, said an aneurism (a weakened area in a blood vessel) burst in his brain.

Eksteen, who knew Minnie for 18 years, said he was not only an outstanding pilot, but also a wonderful person."
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^^ Quite sad in the end but an amazing pilot !
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France to Buy Airbus Tankers From 2013: Air Force Chief
PARIS, Nov 19 - France will buy the new Airbus A330 MRTT tanker aircraft from 2013, French air force chief Gen. Jean-Paul Palomeros was quoted as saying Saturday by an aviation website.

But he added that the Telemos unmanned drone being developed by France and Britain would not enter service until 2020, Aviation International News (AIN) said.

Palomeros said France's missions during the NATO-led action in Libya had shown the need to replace its fleet of 14 Boeing KC-135s for in-flight refueling.

Paris planned to buy a similar number of Airbus multi-role tanker transport (MRTT) aircraft, beginning with five to seven in 2013 for speedy delivery, he said.

A second batch also would have the role of replacing France's A340 and A310 VIP and transport fleet.

The French defense ministry denied in September that it had fixed on the Airbus, and said that deliveries of a KC-135 replacement were not planned for earlier than 2017.

One option introduced was to lease A330s purchased by Britain under the two countries' 2010 military cooperation agreement.

Regarding the Telemos drone being developed by Britain's BAE Systems from its Mantis prototype in partnership with French Dassault Aviation, "We need to define the operational requirements and develop a clear roadmap," Palomeros said.

"The Mantis is a good platform, but we have real work to do regarding systems and communications."
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Lockheed gets $7.4B Air Force deal to upgrade F-22
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon says it has awarded defense contractor Lockheed Martin Corp. a contract worth up to $7.4 billion to upgrade the systems in the Air Force's F-22 Raptor fighter jet.

The contract calls for Lockheed to develop system upgrades, add new capabilities and enhance the performance of the aircraft.

The Pentagon says one company was solicited for the contract and one firm submitted a proposal, which suggests only Lockheed vied for the lucrative contract.

Earlier this year, the Air Force temporarily grounded its entire fleet of Raptors for more than four months after concerns over its oxygen-supply system had prompted a larger examination of the stealth fighter.

The Air Force returned its Raptors to flight in September.
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btw that raptor take off is beasty
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Freaking unbelievably durable jets, these F-15s ! the USAF is testing to see if the service lives of the F-15E's can be extended to 32,000 hours !!!

FlightGlobal - USAF looks to dramatically extend F-15 service life
Boeing has launched a four-year structural analysis of the US Air Force F-15 fleet, with the aim of doubling to quadrupling the service lives of the two major variants.

The USAF has also revealed new interest in critical avionics and mission system upgrades for the 40-year-old airframe, as it seeks to keep at least some of its 414 F-15C/D fighters and F-15E fighter/bombers flying for decades to come.

A USAF F-15C fighter has already entered a four-year fatigue test cycle at Boeing's factory in St Louis, Missouri, said Brad Jones, the company's director of F-15 development programmes. It will be joined soon by an F-15E Strike Eagle.

Boeing's tests will determine if the service life of the F-15C/D can be extended from 9,000h to 18,000h, Jones said. The service life of the F-15E was originally set at 8,000h but could potentially be raised to 32,000h after the tests are complete.

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18000 hrs for a fighter wow.

unkil's piggy bank must be running a tad low if even F-15C from the early 80s are being kept
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They love the bomb truck
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F-15C is a interceptor.
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£116 Million for 72 Harriers!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15876745
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Harriers have jet feedback injection issue.
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Testing a satellite's fuel tank to destruction
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15873206
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Looks like another rover to Mars has been launched (after Spirit and Opportunity). One might recall that Europe tried a Mars rover lander in 2003(Beagle 2) and it failed. ESA lost contact with it 6 days before it was due to enter Martian atmosphere.

One interesting thing about this project is that that the landing method to put the rover onto Martian surface is quite different. The previous time (for Spirit) JPL used a combination of parachute, braking rockets and airbags that completely enveloped the rover. The rover was completely cocooned by the airbags, as seen here.

http://marsrover.nasa.gov/mission/image ... _br350.jpg

The full landing profile (for Spirit) discussed here: http://marsrover.nasa.gov/mission/tl_entry1.html

By contrast, for 'Curiosity' the airbags have gone away and they rely entirely on rockets (in the form of a 'sky-crane') to slow down the rover to a speed gentle enough for a direct landing, then the sky-crane unhooks and flies away. Some nice graphics here.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Compo ... ROVER2.pdf

The advantage seems to be that they do not have to uncover/remove the airbag (could be a tricky procedure), but at the same time it seems a bit risky to rely entirely on the rockets to keep the rover fully balanced and horizontal and on a very slow descent. They must have tested the system thouroughly.
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Animations:

Curiosity



Exploration Rover (2003)
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SriKumar wrote: The advantage seems to be that they do not have to uncover/remove the airbag (could be a tricky procedure), but at the same time it seems a bit risky to rely entirely on the rockets to keep the rover fully balanced and horizontal and on a very slow descent. They must have tested the system thouroughly.
It is certainly risky since it is going to happen so far away from Earth. They would've gained a lot of confidence from their hit-to-kill interceptor tests though.
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Nice video, partha. Much clearer than my stuff.

About the kill vehicle, I am a little sceptical that JPL and LM would be sharing technology (possible but am not sure). Either way, the fundamental problem is not new, though the application is- a control system needing to guide a craft under the influence of various forces (on Mars), to a gentle landing using rockets (with no guidance input from earth). But it is putting an awful lot of faith to assume it will work right 100%. Somehow the airbag approach seems more fault-tolerant and robust, and it was proven successfully two times- Spirit and Opportunity- so there was no real need to change, as far as I can see (unless the equipment on this rover cannot take the heavy bouncing that happens in an airbag-type situation). Also, now they need to make doubly sure that the landing site is free of boulders and flat enough for the rover to land.

To test the new system, they must have dropped it from planes and made it land on earth multiple times. I cannot imagine any other form of testing. They get only one chance to get it right on the real journey so the reliability of this system needs to be very very high.

Added later: The Viking landers used rockets to slow down and land on Mars (plot thickens). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_1#Lander
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SriKumar wrote: The advantage seems to be that they do not have to uncover/remove the airbag (could be a tricky procedure), but at the same time it seems a bit risky to rely entirely on the rockets to keep the rover fully balanced and horizontal and on a very slow descent. They must have tested the system thouroughly.
SriKumar, the complexties involved are enourmous sure. However retro rocket based landings have been done many times earlier too. In fact that was the more preferred method in during the space race of 50s-70s. So, with more modern systems in place we should be able to do it again. Of course the challenge is still there and its a complicated maneuver, hence chances of failure are part of the mission.

On a second note, the sky crane is a new thing and I think it is a bit easier for the rover to land horizontally, because gravity would keep the hanging rover upright even though the rocket based crane might be tilted a bit. As long as the rover is secured around its center of gravity, things are fine and that's something that would be done during the packing here on earth.

I guess because this rover is much larger, they have not gone with the air-bag thing. The added weight means that, that much larger and powerful airbags are required. Hence the need to carry that much amount of material to fill the airbags. Also airbag bounce would mean that there is less precise control over where the rover eventually comes to rest. Also when it comes to rest, what more maneuvering is required to bring it to the right position, because the airbag might result in the rover coming to rest upside down, so mechanism required for correcting it. With a small rover I guess the weight penalty for all this was much less, compared to the much bigger size of the current rover.
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Could not help but amazed at the power of F-18... must be low on fuel...
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Most of you have watched Top Gear's race between the Bugatti Veyron and a EF Typhoon

Now, watch this in HD (720p)

Blue Devil v/s Blue Angel



Apologies if posted before...
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huge explosion destroys Iran missile test facility and kills the chief of its test program
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/05/world ... ml?_r=1&hp

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and on Sunday made another such claim, saying it had shot down an advanced American RQ-170 drone in eastern Iran.

That particular drone is among the most sensitive in the American fleet, and if the report is true it would mean Iran had gained at least partial access to closely guarded American technology. A stealth version of the drone was flown for hours, on repeated occasions, over Osama bin Laden’s hide-out in Abbottabad, Pakistan, earlier this year, without being detected by Pakistani air defenses

wiki:
In August 2010 it was reported that RQ-170s either had been or were about to be redeployed to Afghanistan and that the UAVs had been fitted with a full motion video capability.[18] The missions performed by these aircraft included flying dozens of high altitude sorties over Pakistan to monitor a compound in the town of Abbottabad where terrorist leader Osama bin Laden was believed to be living. On the night of 1/2 May 2011 at least one RQ-170 monitored the area while elements of the United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group launched an assault on the compound which resulted in bin Laden's death. The aircraft provided footage of the attack which was watched live by President Barack Obama and his senior national security advisors. The RQ-170 also monitored Pakistani military radio transmissions in the area to provide warning of the response to the attack.[19] On 27 May the Los Angeles Times reported that Pakistani officials were "alarmed" by the use of the RQ-170 over their country as the drones are "designed to evade radar and other surveillance systems, and can be used as a spy plane
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Nanotube coating could allow surface to absorb radar beams.
They are also the blackest known material. The long straws of pure carbon, each just a few nanometers in diameter, absorb a broad spectrum of light—from radio waves through visible light through the ultraviolet—almost perfectly. Researchers are taking advantage of this perfect absorbance in highly sensitive imaging sensors and other prototype devices.

Guo's group grew sparse forests of vertical carbon nanotubes on the surface of various three-dimensional objects, including a silicon wafer patterned with the shape of a tiny tank. The nanotubes make the objects appear completely flat and black, and they disappear against a black background. The nanotube-coated objects neither reflect nor scatter light.

This effect works, Guo says, because the nanotubes are perfectly absorbing, and because when they are grown with some space between them, as in his experiments, their index of refraction is nearly identical to that of the surrounding air. This means that light won't scatter out of the nanotubes without being absorbed. The work is described in the journal Applied Physics Letters.

Baughman recently demonstrated that nanotubes can form an invisibility cloak when they're heated up under water. The heat from a sheet of nanotubes affects the optical properties of the surrounding water, creating the illusion of invisibility.

Invisibility cloaks shield objects by manipulating incident light so that it simply flows around them. Materials that can achieve this must be made very painstakingly and typically only work with a very narrow spectrum of light—say, microwaves, or red or green light. Nanotubes are relatively easy to make, and work across a broad spectrum.

However, it's not yet practical to grow forests of nanotubes on the surface of an airplane directly—growing such forests is a high-temperature, high-pressure process done in chambers much smaller than an airplane. But Guo says it should be possible to grow the nanotubes on the surface of tiny particles which can then be suspended in paint.
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Thats the whole plane.. One would expect a plane that has gone down to be in pieces..
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well there was only a small percentage of doubt that one was lost when the US started making cautious statements

does not look it was shot down
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it must have been flying quite low (or lost significant altitude) to have crashed and gotten captured in such good shape.

also i notice its white... which suggests it is meant for daytime recon. you'd think they would do these recon missions at night.
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Folks,

That CIA UAV was NOT shot down.

Iran claims - and it looks to be true - that they electronically hijacked the air craft and brought it down.

Front page on BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16098562

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