Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 2011

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby KLNMurthy » 17 Dec 2011 23:32

Pakis' privileging of the written word also explains some of the educated pakis' disdain for indics and their cognitive dissonant rage at indics' accomplishments, e.g. Salman Taseer's childish taunts about our space program. We are suppoosed to be oral-culture primitives, and they, the owners of the miracle technology of writing.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby A_Gupta » 17 Dec 2011 23:52

From Ayesha Siddiqi's article:
For instance, in Punjab alone there are five large cities (population around 10 million), 15 intermediate cities (population around five million), 74 small cities (population around one million), and 114 towns (population less than 50,000).


5 * 10 million = 50 million
15 * 5 million = 75 million
74 * 1 million = 74 million
Not counting the towns, the total is already 199 million.
Even if "around" means 50%, the urban population of Punjab is 100 million.
Am I hallucinating?
Numeracy is at a premium in Pakistan?

Better economic progress is bound to tackle the problem of militancy, which is adding to Pakistan’s poor image and is a consequence of poor governance, poverty and rampant feudalism.


Which other country thinks that the primary problem caused by internal violence is the loss of image? And this is from someone who faces social ostracism for her critique of the Pakistani Army. Truly difficult to rise out of one's environment.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Rangudu » 18 Dec 2011 00:05

Ramana has it exactly right. Siddiqa is NOT saying that Wahhabism is a sign of modernism. Instead, she is saying that in TSP, those middle classes that may look outwardly 'modern' i.e Western clothes, burger joint hopping etc. are the engine that drives the spread of Wahhabism and Deobandi mentalities. When you add to this the breakdown of feudal/tribal institutions and a military that supports the urbanised jihadis, you have an irresistable force.

BTW, you cannot expect a TSPian who cares about his/her life to say Islam is a cage or things of that sort. Heck, few people even in the West dare say such things openly for the fear of the cutlet.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby lakshmikanth » 18 Dec 2011 00:50

I have not yet read the Siddiqa article, but from the comments here on it one thing stands out to me. It is the absence of a non-feudal ideological elite in the land of Pakhanas.

Any normal country would have a ratio of these two. A bunch of rich people behaving like feudal lords form the feudal elite. A bunch of leaders of the people, not because they are rich but because they have ideas that resonate to the people. In India, people like JP, Anna etc take up that role. They almost always oppose the feudal elite and act as a sanity check on the nation.

As mentioned above by Sridhar, the pirs who were supposed to be the ideological elites have converted themselves into feudal lords, and have their survival and existential needs which are same as any other member of the feudal elite.

There is no sanity check mechanism in Pakhanastan. The people are entirely controlled by the feudal elite. There is no one, absolutely no one, to voice the needs of the SDRE poor as was clear in the aftermath of the floods. It makes me believe that the slide of Pakhanastanis into Pakhana is not reversible. The need for finding more purity is also not reversible. They will keep finding more and more ways to finish off the impure.

We must make sure that none of the sewage flows accross the border walls into India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Manish_Sharma » 18 Dec 2011 02:14

:rotfl:

Maharaja Ranjit Singh was right to make porkis wear salwars, they can't handle men's clothing:


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Postby Venkarl » 18 Dec 2011 04:10

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: doosra dhamaka lmao

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby SBajwa » 18 Dec 2011 06:08

Anybody knows where Veena Malik is? She has been missing from Bombay for two days now!!! Did anybody declared her to be wajib-ul-qatl?

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Postby RajeshA » 18 Dec 2011 07:36

SBajwa wrote:Anybody knows where Veena Malik is? She has been missing from Bombay for two days now!!! Did anybody declared her to be wajib-ul-qatl?

What? :shock: she didn't get home? Yesterday I had called a taxi for her and sent her home!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby ramana » 18 Dec 2011 07:49

Gul and Beg were the taxi driver and cleaner in front. You should have been more careful!

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Postby SBajwa » 18 Dec 2011 09:41

In any case Pakistan's Izzat has been saved!!! :( she was just like the average pakistani's mother and sister.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Prem » 18 Dec 2011 10:13

SBajwa wrote:In any case Pakistan's Izzat has been saved!!! :( she was just like the average pakistani's mother and sister.


Beizzat crying for imaginary izzat worth Fistfull Of Dollars.
But If the abduls were in the front then who was in the rear of the dear causing the tear without fear? Lets be clear and not jeer but cheer the V Maalick here. Listen to her cry and console her . Hey Paki,Here is Indoo challenge to keep V Maalick .
Chall phir Balliyye, Dill di Challeye , Dill ki duniya basayenge . :P
Waghe pei Khare hai Galbaat Kar lo
Sarree V Malick hamare Naam kar do
Kharcha Shaddi ka bhi bachh jayega
Ayeshas Saree ka Abhi daam kardo .

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Postby abhijitm » 18 Dec 2011 10:36

screws are getting tighten for dus percenti
LHC moved against Zardari
The Lahore High Court has been moved to restrain Asif Ali Zardari from holding the constitutional position of President of Pakistan and to perform any duties attached with this important office. A citizen, Hafiz Muhammad Asim, filed a petition through Advocate Muhammad Azhar Siddique seeking interpretation of Article 47 of the Constitution after a recent statement of the President wherein he said: “If Article 47 is invoked, he would not accept the Constitution.” Petitioner termed the statement a high reason within the meaning of Article 6 of the Constitution.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Prem » 18 Dec 2011 10:41

http://www.businessinsider.com/pakistan ... en-2011-12
Ahmak Paki Mocking Massa
On its English language site, Pakistan Kakhuda Hafiz (PKH) published the following picture (via @SarmandGilani). PKH says American soldiers have no problem with the shortage of fuel and ammunition as they don't have to "go out and fight as often," but troops "can't stand" the fried chicken and french fry shortage plaguing American bases in Afghanistan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Anujan » 18 Dec 2011 11:45

curious to note that there has been no public appeal from massa to reopen NATO routes. All statements are generic how pakis are important for stability in Afghanistan.

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Postby Singha » 18 Dec 2011 13:13

getting rid of all the junk food is imo healthy . should make the mushtanda goras lean and light and spoiling for the next fight without having to spend 2 hrs on the treadmill everyday burning the fat off. MREs are much better than popeyes and cinnabons for sure.

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Postby Venkarl » 18 Dec 2011 13:13

Other than Presidential elections, the American public doesn't have any independent thinking. Whatever Govt does they think is in their interest. Recent Occupy Wallstreet and all were an aberration.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Anujan » 18 Dec 2011 13:41

Hamid gul is apparently building an organization for the defence of Pakistan from NATO aggression and it has LeT in it. They are holding a huge rally and oneof the things they are protesting is MFN status to India.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/308097/defe ... for-rally/

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby KLNMurthy » 18 Dec 2011 14:17

ramana wrote:Gul and Beg were the taxi driver and cleaner in front. You should have been more careful!

Seriously, I hope the poor woman comes to no harm.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby chetak » 18 Dec 2011 14:19

KLNMurthy wrote:
ramana wrote:Gul and Beg were the taxi driver and cleaner in front. You should have been more careful!

Seriously, I hope the poor woman comes to no harm.



I somehow doubt the "poor" part. :)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby SSridhar » 18 Dec 2011 14:47

Rangudu wrote:SSridhar

Re Ayesha Siddiqa's theory, I believe what she means is that in TSP, radical Wahhabi/Deobandi mindset is largely promoted by the well off urban middle class types, who also enjoy some of the fruits of economic modernization. In contrast, the so called moderate Sufism is largely a rural/fedual preserve. In other words, the same people who look modern on the surface, with new cars, families in the West, engineering, law, medicine type education etc. are the same ones who propagate jihadi views the most. There's even a term for this - "burger jihadis". BTW, virtually all of LeT/JeM commander types belong to this class. This is why the urban bourgeouisie were throwing rose petals at Mumtaz Qadri.

Rangudu, thanks. You are quite right about the modern-looking Pakistanis being fiercely Wahhabis underneath. Ramzi Yousuf to KSM to Omar Saeed Sheikh, the London 7/7 attackers to DCH to Times Square bomber to that Lodhi guy in Sydney and scores in between were all 'Pakistani burger jihadis' (will remember this term). Even if all of them are not, they all are most certainly against India. The well heeled are also better educated and like communism/Marxism appealing to a lot of well educated people, wahhabism may also be attractive to them. The Hizb-ut-Tahrir (HuT) attracts well educated guys in thousands especially in the UK and Pakistan. In Egypt, Ikhwan-ul-Muslimeen has the same magnetic power.

However, the reason I said what I said in my earlier post was that she wrote
Deobandi and Wahabi Islam, as opposed to Sufi and Barelvi Islam, have textual basis and offer a form of modernity. Allama Mohammad Iqbal, the poet-philosopher of Pakistan, also recognised this factor. He found orthodox religion as having greater capacity to respond to the needs of establishing a modern state.


Allama Iqbal says "Because of this freedom there will be a renaissance of the Deen. The revived Deen will be closer to spirit of the modern times." But, as events in Pakistan so quickly and clearly showed, the Deen was split along sectarian lines and rather than a renaissance, the Deen went into a downward spiral. This was one aspect all those who call for an Islamist rule clearly forget or feign as unimportant or manageable until the reality hits them hard. What brand of Islam and which school of Koranic codification ? All that unification against the kufr had unravelled as quickly as the kufr was taken care of. Islam is the most divided religion. Jinnah even believed that Islam was not a religion, but a nation. And that was his basis for two nations. Such confusion.

Some of the burger jihadis might think that the end justified the means and so can manipulate the Wahhabi/Deobandi/Ahl-e-Hadiths because they can be later controlled after achieving the end. This is like the thinking of the PA when it spawned all those terrorist outfits. Things worked well for some time but we know what happened then.

The troubling thing is that, unlike what Ms. Siddiqa says, the 'textual basis' of Wahhabism or Deobandism, by itself, cannot offer 'modernity'. It is the re-interpretation of the text in changing times that will offer modernity. By their own admission, the Wahhabis and Deobandis want to lead the way exactly like the salaf.

Also, I've seen Siddiqa argue the above in part to discredit the Anatol Lieven type Western "experts" who try to fool others by confusing outward symbols of 'modernity' like jeans and cars with liberalism.
That is very correct of her to do so. Another myth that must be repeatedly busted is the often repeated 'Islamists do not get any seats in elections, anyway. What are we worried about ?' that the 'burger jihadis' propagate in the Western media to fool everyone. There are several reasons why the Islamist parties do not win many votes in elections. The military, biradari system, general voter apathy, rigging, political alignments, jiyalas etc. Also, a party like the JI, for example, is not so well disposed off towards democratic elections. However, they all enjoy a disproportionate clout over the government, the military and the society (or even internationally). If they choose a particular line of reasoning in any matter, that stands.

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Postby Brad Goodman » 18 Dec 2011 15:47

Pakistan stops cricketers from joining Bangla T20 league

Lahore: The Pakistan Cricket Board has stopped its players from signing contracts with clubs in the Bangladesh Twenty20 Premier League, citing the upcoming Test series against England

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Brad Goodman » 18 Dec 2011 15:50

chetak wrote:
Seriously, I hope the poor woman comes to no harm.

I somehow doubt the "poor" part. :)


I doubt the woman part too :rotfl:

btw Missing Veena Malik secretly reaches Pakistan

According to sources, she arrived back for visa renewal to Lahore via Wagha border, where her friend Ashmit Patel had come to drop her. She had mysteriously disappeared from Mumbai where she was shooting for a film.

Sources said that she walked into Pakistan from the Wagah border on Friday, where some of her friends picked her up and left for an unknown destination, The Nation reported.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby johneeG » 18 Dec 2011 15:54

SSridhar wrote:Islam is the most divided religion.


A humble nitpick: Islam is not anymore divided then other religions and creeds. Human thinking is such that all people can never agree to one thing at all times. This is impossible even in a tight-knit small groups. So, to expect an entire creed to profess a single view in all things at all times seems a bit foolish. But this is exactly the condition placed by Islam. Islam rejects any diversity of thought and encourages its mullahs to enforce uniformity of thought. This creates the problems for an islamic society. Because no dissent is tolerated and no diversity is allowed. It starts from bigger differences and proceeds to minutest and irrelevant theological details.

In a society where muslims live with other non-muslims, the biggest difference is with the Kafirs. So, the muslim society can be united against the Kafir ignoring the internal differences. But in a society made up of predominantly muslims, the differences among the muslims is taken seriously. This leads to sectarian violence. But this is no end. If one sects succeeds in eliminating the other sect, even then the violence wont end. Because some other difference within the sect will soon create factions that will fight further. This is a process that will go ad infitum.

To be fair to Islam, this trait has been picked up by it from Christianity which has its roots in Judaism. All the three religions exhibit this feature. Christianity and Judaism have suffered due to the falling 'faith' of its adherents. And since the state promotes free speech, these two religions have been subjected to inspection and have been forced to accommodate. Christianity, in particular, has been subjected to harsh but well-deserved criticism which has somewhat curbed the theological intolerance in clergy(atleast outwardly).

Islam has escaped inspection and criticism by simply refusing to accept free speech even in countries that are not ruled by Islamists.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby pralay » 18 Dec 2011 15:56

A_Gupta wrote:From Ayesha Siddiqi's article:
For instance, in Punjab alone there are five large cities (population around 10 million), 15 intermediate cities (population around five million), 74 small cities (population around one million), and 114 towns (population less than 50,000).


5 * 10 million = 50 million
15 * 5 million = 75 million
74 * 1 million = 74 million
Not counting the towns, the total is already 199 million.
Even if "around" means 50%, the urban population of Punjab is 100 million.
Am I hallucinating?
Numeracy is at a premium in Pakistan?

for beople of bakistan Lac and Millionj are the jsame.
you kufr sdre bill never underjtand thij TFTA conjepts.
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Postby A_Gupta » 18 Dec 2011 16:14

sameer_shelavale wrote:for beople of bakistan Lac and Millionj are the jsame.
you kufr sdre bill never underjtand thij TFTA conjepts.
:rotfl:

So 1 Lac TFTA = 1 Millionj SDRE
Which by Al-Jabr, translates to 1 TFTA =10 SDRE
Got it!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby SSridhar » 18 Dec 2011 16:41

shaardula wrote:sridhar, if you remember during the days of swat invasion, there were reports of there being an robinhood element to the ttp and how they were redistributing land. what do you make of that?

of course during those days you had also pointed out how the pirs were land holders themselves.

shaardula, yes, I do remember that episode. Those were some sporadic incidents that were not sustained. There were some scores to be settled with some 'khans' perhaps who probably resisted the Taliban or didn't fund them enough. Or, some Talibani foot soldier from that area had a grouse with the Khan and settled scores at an opportune time. Land reform will never be done in Pakistan. Before the secession of East Pakistan, they had already done major land reforms there by the end of the 50s, but not West Pakistan. The East Pakistanis had socialist leanings and were far less Islamist at that time. There was such a huge gap in principles of governance within the two wings of Pakistan. Adding to the religious angle is the sense of 'entitlement' that the British developed among the Punjabis. There was no such policy in Bengal, as in the rest of India too.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby RajeshA » 18 Dec 2011 16:50

Brad Goodman wrote:Missing Veena Malik secretly reaches Pakistan

According to sources, she arrived back for visa renewal to Lahore via Wagha border

There you see! There you see it!

I told you all, I put her in a taxi and sent her home - to LaWhore! And just so that no Indian feels jealous or unfairly treated, she came over to my place, just for ONE single night! I did not take more than my share from Indian Public Distribution System than was due!

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Postby Yogi_G » 18 Dec 2011 17:58

Just finished watching the BBC documentary on the Paki secret war. You've got to love the Americans and the Brits. When they whine, they make it sound that it is the Paki alone who is bad. As if the Yanks and the Brits have nothing to do with it.But its fun to sit back and watch 2 duplicitous and inherently dishonest nations fight with each other. Both currently are facing takleef due to their past karma. The Yanks for their "freedom" agenda (read American world domination) and Pakistan for their "sovereignity" (read Paki jihadi Islamist ideology.)

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Postby KJo » 18 Dec 2011 20:26

Allah be praised! Veena has been found! :D

Controversial Pakistani actor Veena Malik, who had gone 'missing' from Friday morning while shooting for a film in Goregaon, has been found at a hotel in Juhu in suburban Mumbai. The actor is found in Oakwood hotel, where she registered by her real name Zahida :eek: .


So Veena is actually Zahida. And Meera is actually Irtaza.
What's the deal with Paki Muslim wimmens changing burqa to dirty kafir names while indulging in waahiyaath activities??

Must be some new form of taqqiya. I wouldn't be surprised if Gilly Groper changing his name to Gulshan :twisted: before maalishing Sherry.
Come to think of it... Sherry is the Kafir burqa of Shehrbano.

Pakis are so clever. AOA!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Lalmohan » 18 Dec 2011 20:52

its standard procedure onlee... all actresses change their names to kaffir ones to be morally acceptable to the ummah...
utter hyprocracy...

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Postby Singha » 18 Dec 2011 21:03

TV showed footage of massive anti-kafir rally in lahore today led by the amir-e-LET - hafeez sayeed himself.

the painted backdrop of the huge stage had a line of tanks in military camo - mashallah.

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Singha wrote:TV showed footage of massive anti-kafir rally in lahore today led by the amir-e-LET - hafeez sayeed himself.

the painted backdrop of the huge stage had a line of tanks in military camo - mashallah.


But the piss process is irreversible and uninterruptible and gropper and his masters are men of peace; so says pradhan mantri MMSJi.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby chetak » 18 Dec 2011 21:15

Lalmohan wrote:its standard procedure onlee... all actresses change their names to kaffir ones to be morally acceptable to the ummah...
utter hyprocracy...



papi pet ka sawal hai, ji.

Bank balance first, religion next.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Anantha » 18 Dec 2011 21:38

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tv/Missing-actress-Veena-Malik-has-been-found/articleshow/11154926.cms

That man Rajesh is lying. Veena babe is in an apt in Juhu. Ok fess up, which one of you Mumbaikar BR "showed" her our Indian "hospitality" and was a "man enough" to drop her at the Juhu apt. We need to appreciate and acknowledge the guys, who behind the scenes do the hard and dirty work for India. :mrgreen:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Brad Goodman » 18 Dec 2011 21:44

Marine mom protests Pakistan-made gifts

A moto Marine mom is taking the National Museum of the Marine Corps to task for its gift shop offerings, specifically fleece jackets made in Pakistan.

Leah Petrilli, whose son is serving in Afghanistan, said she was shocked when perusing the outerwear during a recent visit to the museum in Triangle, Va. Intending to buy a fleece for her niece, the Dormont, Pa., resident found only “Made in Pakistan” labels.
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Petrilli was so upset she sent the museum an email explaining her concerns.

“Pakistan’s resolve and commitment to the Global War on Terror is well-known to be questionable at best and suspect at worst,” Petrilli wrote. She went on to say, “I would ask that you re-evaluate this line of clothing being offered for sale in the gift shop. To be blunt, I found it to be a slap in the face not only to my son, but to every U.S. Marine and U.S. service member fighting the GWOT.”

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Postby Brad Goodman » 18 Dec 2011 21:46

Pakistan: another Christian accused of blasphemy by burning Koran

The Archdiocese of Lahore in Pakistan has denied reports that a 24-year-old Catholic burned pages of the Koran. Allegations that Khuram Masih destroyed part of the Muslim holy book are baseless – and many media reports of the case are inaccurate – a spokesman for the archdiocese told Aid to the Church in Need.

The spokesman said Mr Masih was arrested on 6 December, having been falsely accused by his Hindu girlfriend, who he had been living with “out of wedlock”, as his parents strongly objected to the wedding.

According to the archdiocese, the family of the Muslim owner of the house in which the couple was living put pressure on the young woman – blackmailing her after she would not convert to Islam, by threatening her with stoning for “living in sin”. Told she would be killed if she did not cooperate, Mr Masih’s Hindu girlfriend was forced to call the police and accuse him of burning pages from the Qur’an to cook tea over the fire.

When the police failed to find Mr Masih at home, they arrested his nephew. Khuram Masih then went to the police station in order to find out what was going on, but by that time a mob had gathered in front of the station wanting to set fire to the building and kill him. At present, the young man is in jail awaiting his trial.

While other versions of Khuram Masih’s arrest have been published by numerous media outlets, in which he is accused of burning the pages when disposing of rubbish from a building job, the diocese’s spokesman dismissed these as inaccurate.

A Pakistani Muslim attorney who defends victims against accusations of blasphemy, but whose name cannot because of fears of attack, told Aid to the Church in Need earlier this month that 95 percent of all blasphemy allegations are false, and made with the intention of harming or taking revenge on someone. Read more on this story

Under Pakistan’s blasphemy law, which was intorduced in 1986, insulting the Qur’an can be punished by life imprisonment, and insulting the Prophet Mohammed is punishable by death.

According to the Catholic Church’s Commission for Justice and Peace of the Catholic Church in Pakistan, which documents these cases, 38 persons, including 14 Christians, were accused of blasphemy last year.

Aid to the Church in Need supports the work of the Commission, which among other things finances legal representation for indigent defendants.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Brad Goodman » 18 Dec 2011 21:53

173 polio cases reported in 2011 in Pakistan


ISLAMABAD: The number of polio cases in the country has risen to 173 in 2011.

According to a prvate news channel report, during the current week, six new cases have been reported from Balochistan and two from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

As per data provided by the National Institute of Health (NIH), the highest number of polio cases have been registered in Balochistan (68), 50 from Fata, 30 from Sindh, 19 from KPK, 5 from the Punjab and one from Gilgit-Baltistan.

In 2010, 144 polio cases were reported while 2009 witnessed 116 polio cases. An anti-polio countrywide campaign is planned to start from December 19th.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Gerard » 18 Dec 2011 22:55

Today's Paki-delusion brought to you by Lal Khan

1971: East Bengal revisited

It is a myth that the Pakistan Army was defeated by the Indian military aggression. It was already paralysed by the mass uprising, general strikes and the armed struggle of the Mukti Bahini and left-wing groups. The Indian invasion was primarily aimed to crush the workers and peasants’ councils or soviets that mushroomed and had taken over the administrative and judicial control in the areas that had been liberated from the Pakistan state.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby ramana » 18 Dec 2011 23:03

Those guys live in alternate reality. What they need is more Wahabism.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Mahendra » 18 Dec 2011 23:04

'Veena' Malik is not morally acceptable for me on TSP thread, I hope she is not discussed here till she changes her name to Shakeela Malik. For those who want to discuss this irrelevant person, there is Benis thread and L&S&M&M-elongation thread


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