Two-G (2G) Spectrum Scam Tapes and follow-up

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Upendra wrote:There is no need of frothing at the mouth and being rude, i used open source intel to find the culprit who stole people's money. I guess you haven't learnt to politely put forward your view. I guess sunday guardian author was pointing towards this.
Major Nirvikar Singh
ADC (M) to Governor Chandigarh.
FIR: Nirvikar Singh has assets 216 times more than income <SNIP>
And I guess you don't have the common sense to do some homework before you shoot off your mouth and post complete nonsense and make baseless allegations?

Do you realize that in your enthusiasm to make that stupid post, you're accusing a Serving IA officer of corruption without an iota of proof of claim? What is the point of indulging in this cheap stunt? And based on what? A completely useless one line post by merlin where he assumed something and you went a step forward w/o using any of the grey cell between your ears? C'on...rather than remove that post, you're asking others to be polite? Get off your high-horse.
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Upendra wrote:
anjan wrote:You're right he should have instead have made up criminal accusations against you. Might have been more apt.
no criminal accusations were made but an attempt to find the culprits. your thought policing wont prevent others from digging for the truth. your absolute silence on people exposed of having been involved in corruption speaks volumes of your real agenda.
Expecting someone to be responsible in what he writes/posts here is not thought policing...but is pure common sense, which you seem to be lacking. By pointing fingers at ADC of JJ Singh in context of the article and merlin's post, you're as much as saying that 'this'person is the one being referred to in the post. All you had to do was be a bit patient and post the post where you finally mentioned the officer under CBI investigation. But I guess, that was too much to ask.
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rohitvats wrote:And I guess you don't have the common sense to do some homework before you shoot off your mouth and post complete nonsense and make baseless allegations?

Do you realize that in your enthusiasm to make that stupid post, you're accusing a Serving IA officer of corruption without an iota of proof of claim? What is the point of indulging in this cheap stunt? And based on what? A completely useless one line post by merlin where he assumed something and you went a step forward w/o using any of the grey cell between your ears? C'on...rather than remove that post, you're asking others to be polite? Get off your high-horse.
It's called thinking out loud, putting collected info before others so they can add or point out mistakes in them. You could have politely pointed the errors instead of acting like a know all and trying to act as internet police. I guess you never taught that. Now stop being loud mouth and continuing your charade of defending army officers, i can point out innumerable posts where corruption among services is mentioned, why don't you try to censor them and funnily enough not one word of condemnation for the corrupt behavior of the officer involved, i guess this fake show of anger and indignation is to cover up the corrupt dealings.
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rohitvats wrote:Expecting someone to be responsible in what he writes/posts here is not thought policing...but is pure common sense, which you seem to be lacking. By pointing fingers at ADC of JJ Singh in context of the article and merlin's post, you're as much as saying that 'this'person is the one being referred to in the post. All you had to do was be a bit patient and post the post where you finally mentioned the officer under CBI investigation. But I guess, that was too much to ask.
You are not the repository of world's common sense, so stop acting like one.... you have something to throw light on the matter at hand, then do so... instead of telling people what to think and post..... if you had interest in exposing the corrupt you would try to help instead of going in rounds saying the same thing and acting hurt.
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Upendra wrote: It's called thinking out loud, putting collected info before others so they can add or point out mistakes in them. You could have politely pointed the errors instead of acting like a know all and trying to act as internet police. I guess you never taught that. Now stop being loud mouth and continuing your charade of defending army officers, i can point out innumerable posts where corruption among services is mentioned, why don't you try to censor them and funnily enough not one word of condemnation for the corrupt behavior of the officer involved, i guess this fake show of anger and indignation is to cover up the corrupt dealings.
Don't pass your lack of common sense and idiocacy as some form of high intellectaul thought process - BS by any other name remains BS. The fact that you show such callous attitude your over-enthusiasm to 'uncover' corruption on internet forums shows the hollowness of your "intellectual thought process"....And what you call "charade" is called concern and responsibility. But I guess you won't understand that. After all, the common sense is clearly missing...

And I don't need certificate of integrity from someone like you....you can take this nonsense somewhere else.
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Upendra wrote: <SNIP>You are not the repository of world's common sense, so stop acting like one.... you have something to throw light on the matter at hand, then do so... instead of telling people what to think and post..... if you had interest in exposing the corrupt you would try to help instead of going in rounds saying the same thing and acting hurt.
Try doing what you did by wrongly naming that officer or anyone else in real world and I'm sure more than enough people will pump common sense in you...it is easy to pass flatulence as high sounding BS on internet forums with the benefit of anonymity.
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Neither do I need a certificate of common sense from you, go take a hike....nobody cares for your fake sense of anger, your covert support of the corrupt by muzzling debate through your histronics exposes your character or lack of it.
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Upendra wrote: <SNIP>You are not the repository of world's common sense, so stop acting like one.... you have something to throw light on the matter at hand, then do so... instead of telling people what to think and post..... if you had interest in exposing the corrupt you would try to help instead of going in rounds saying the same thing and acting hurt.
Try doing what you did by wrongly naming that officer or anyone else in real world and I'm sure more than enough people will pump common sense in you...it is easy to pass flatulence as high sounding BS on internet forums with the benefit of anonymity.
go preach your lesson in cowardice to somebody else, your veiled threats of violence make me laugh, trying to act internet goon like sibal to deflect attention from corruption wont work, its due to people like you corrupt have wormed their way to the top in politics and your lame attempt to pump common sense in me will need 4 men to carry you back.
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Upendra wrote:Neither do I need a certificate of common sense from you, go take a hike....nobody cares for your fake sense of anger, your covert support of the corrupt by muzzling debate through your histronics exposes your character or lack of it.

<SNIP>

go preach your lesson in cowardice to somebody else, your veiled threats of violence make me laugh, trying to act internet goon like sibal to deflect attention from corruption wont work, its due to people like you corrupt have wormed their way to the top in politics and your lame attempt to pump common sense in me will need 4 men to carry you back.
That was not a veiled threat of violence but a clear statement of fact - that, wrong accusation will get you more than what you bargained for. And will leave a bad taste in your mouth. You are misusing the freedom internet gives you by dragging the name of innoccent people without so much as a thought to their reputation. But the, what else can one expect from someone whose intellectual quotient, actually the lack thereof, is on clear display.

In all the BS you've posted so far, I haven't seen one effort to go back and remove the stupid post of yours and remove the good officers name. But then, I sure you spent so much time thinking of how to get back at me that this would not have crossed your mind. How ironic!!! passing all high sounding and moralistic flatulence and yet, a simple thing as man's honor is beyond you. But then, what else can one expect from windbag like you.

Rest of your post is hallmark of a Looser with all the high sounding references to corruption and politics and what not...Carry on! I don't expect much to come from you as it is....I least you can provide some entertainment of BRF jirga with your asinine comments...be my guest. I'll be right htere waiting for you.
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Time for adminullahs to act ..
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^^^You're such a kill-joy!!!
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^^ Saar , the guy was spoiling every other thread on the forum. Anyone who disagreed with him was a free mason or an MNC drone or a NASA( :rotfl: ) spy trying to take on the world . Many people tried explaining him , that this is a dead serious forum , even though a diverse view points are propagated . I advise him to resist the temptation of posting , read up a little more from some credible sources and post in a clear objective manner in order to get more credibility .
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poster Upendra may not even be far from truth, but even truth has to be balanced and delivered selectively. When we live in times of deep systemic rot, pointing out that everything is rotten will usually count for nothing. It's very difficult for a common individual going about his day-to-day affairs, paying taxes etc to decipher this web unless they devote substantial amount of time into studying the root causes and how's and wherefore's the system gets corrupted. This is a deeply unforgiving exercise and one can fall by the wayside easily.
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^^ There is rot , but there are good things even . Also , the rot can have simpler explanations .
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Now backtracking from your death threat, how pathetic, what happened, all courage lost? and who are you to judge me? another lackey of the corrupt elite trying to use fear to intimidate and silence opposition to corruption. Haven't we all seen your intelligence quotient, using death threat when you cant defend the corrupt, fool.
rohitvats wrote:In all the BS you've posted so far, I haven't seen one effort to go back and remove the stupid post of yours and remove the good officers name.
You cant edit posts after a certain amount of time, that's how the forum software works.... your super duper brain couldnt figure that out?

I bet you come up with these barkings to defend your corrupt pals .... keep barking, more you keep with this behaviour more you expose yourself
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gakakkad wrote:^^ Saar , the guy was spoiling every other thread on the forum. Anyone who disagreed with him was a free mason or an MNC drone or a NASA( :rotfl: ) spy trying to take on the world .
Prove my usage of NASA spy allegation, i bet you cant because you made that up..... liar.

And aren't you the same guy prescribing aspartame poison to his diabetic patients?
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This OT scream-fest is not helping this thread. Am not sure I am interested in deciphering the all posts on p88, but will wait for admins to clean up , so we can get back to some fruitful discussion. thanks
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>>Prove my usage of NASA spy allegation, i bet you cant because you made that up..... liar.

>>And aren't you the same guy prescribing aspartame poison to his diabetic patients?

QED, :) You do talk wildly , don't you ?


Anyway FYI , the choice of artificial sweetener is left to the patient. The dietician and not the physician aids in the selection . In my area sucralose seems to be the most popular one. My patients who use aspartame have been using it even before i became a doctor.


IMHO , this forum gives a fairly patient hearing to diverse POV. We ve even put up with the Chines and Paki's . Not to mention the swedes , the oiropeans and the amreekans trying to sell their aircrafts. :) If you have received a warning , it means that you have crossed the Rubicon , quite a while ago .
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Upendra wrote:Now backtracking from your death threat, how pathetic, what happened, all courage lost? and who are you to judge me? another lackey of the corrupt elite trying to use fear to intimidate and silence opposition to corruption. Haven't we all seen your intelligence quotient, using death threat when you cant defend the corrupt, fool.<SNIP>
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

You should try posting in BENIS dhaaga...I'm sure you'll make name for yourself there.
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^^ sadly the chap is quadrified by JEM .
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Here is a brilliant piece written by Ashok Malik. I am posting it here as Swamy is a crusader against the 2G corrupt. No one ever has written such a balanced profile about Swamy. I recommend it as a must read :) Hopefully current one is his best endavour and I wish him all the best. Chanakya is a teacher too before he built the greatest empire. Though I hate Swamy for what he did in 1999, I hope he has a mission and he succeeds.

The Beastly Beatitudes of Subramanian S - He has taken on the might of the Congress single-handedly. And is in no mood to back off. Ashok Malik chronicles the rise, fall and resurrection of this one-man army
THERE’S AN old story about Subramanian Swamy that even if apocryphal and probably untrue still merits retelling simply because it’s part of urban folklore in Lutyens’ Delhi. One day, a powerful editor with a blackmailing tendency walked into Swamy’s basement office in his south Delhi residence, and threw a sheaf of papers on the table. “Dr Swamy,” he thundered, “I have a file on you.” Unperturbed, Swamy reached out for a folder in his bottom drawer, placed them on the desk and said, calmly, with the chilling certitude so typical of his voice, “Mr Editor, I have a file on you.”

Years ago, Swamy was asked whether this story was true. He laughed it off. Maybe it wasn’t, but it was too delightful and too awe-inspiring for him to deny it. It only embellished his reputation as the man who keeps a dossier on everybody. No wonder, to his friends and fans, he is Sherlock Holmes; and to his foes, he is Professor Moriarty.

Whichever way you look at him, Swamy has spent the past year, the past month and the past week doing what he most relishes: making news. Almost at the same time, he has:
• Appeared before the 2G spectrum trial court and sought to give evidence to establish Home Minister (then finance minister) P Chidambaram was prima facie guilty of civil misconduct and of allowing a swindle to take place. He has now been given time to produce more papers
• Negotiated a possible place in the NDA, with senior leaders in the RSS and elements of the BJP backing the entry of his one-man Janata Party into the alliance
• Been removed by Harvard University as a visiting professor of economics because of an article he wrote in a Mumbai newspaper following the July terror bombings, and where he asked Muslims to acknowledge their Hindu ancestry or lose voting rights

In a sense, 2011 has marked Swamy’s comeback.
He hasn’t been in Parliament since 1999, when he was instrumental in ensuring the fall of the first NDA government. For a long while, he was shunned by mainstream parties, and seen as too clever and wily for his own good. His most audacious achievement — how many people can claim to have ended a five-year Lok Sabha after only one year and pushed a country of a billion into fresh elections? — had also become his undoing.

After a period in the wilderness — in 2001, he was free enough to resume going to Harvard for a two-month visiting professorship every summer — Swamy fought his way into the limelight. He cultivated the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) and the religious right in the Sangh Parivar, orphaned as the BJP sought a post-Ayodhya positioning. By putting himself in the middle of the 2G scandal and going after Chidambaram with his trademark gusto — he argues his own cases in court — Swamy also repackaged himself as an anti-corruption crusader.

These twin identities — overstated Hindu nationalism and an opposition to the Congress, specifically Sonia Gandhi — have become Swamy’s calling card. This is how a contemporary generation knows him.
The rare Indian politician who uses Twitter to spread political propaganda — rather than to tell people his travel plans — Swamy has carved a social media presence. To his 40,000 followers on Twitter and the Hindu right in the blogosphere, he’s the best prime minister India never had.

In its own manner it’s impressive. Swamy has not won an election since 1998. In 2004, when he contested from Madurai, Tamil Nadu, and worked hard on his campaign, he finished fourth with only 12,000 votes. Nevertheless he has carved a ‘virtual electorate’ for himself: the only serious politician with more Twitter followers than voters.

IT’S EASY to poke fun at Swamy and his idiosyncrasies, to label him a “maverick” — a description he loathes — to resort to puns such as “One-man Swamy”. On the other hand, he represents one of Indian politics’ bittersweet ironies. With his scholarship, obvious cerebral gifts, determination and global connections, he should have been a minister of long standing, contributing to policy and shaping economic and diplomatic strategies. Instead, he is the perennial outsider in the establishment; associated with nuisance value and the politics of destruction.

If it has turned out this way, it is a commentary on Indian politics, which has failed to optimally use the only MP who ever held a tenure position at Harvard. It is also a commentary on Swamy and the choices he has made at different stages of his career. Every individual in public life has a back story. Swamy has not one but several back stories.

Swamy is a child of power Delhi, coming to the city when only six months old, after his mathematician father changed jobs. Sitaram Subramanian rose to become director of the Central Statistical Institute. One of his formidable professional rivals was PC Mahalanobis, statistician and father of the Planning Commission.

Swamy turned to mathematics like his father, joining Hindu College — for which he appeared in an alumni debate this past week, crossing swords with old students from St Stephen’s, the college he rejected “because I felt like a foreigner there” — and finishing third in Delhi University. For his master’s, he enrolled at the Indian Statistical Institute (ISI) in Kolkata (then Calcutta), seat of the formidable Mahalanobis himself.

“It was here that I first felt prejudice,” he says, “Mahalanobis found out I was my father’s son, and I began to get lower grades than I deserved.” Mahalanobis had written a paper on derivatives for an international journal. As a post-graduate student, Swamy critiqued it and wrote a counter-paper suggesting Mahalanobis was not being original but had borrowed from the work of another mathematician who had done work on the subject a century earlier. The paper was accepted and published in the same journal. It won Swamy no friends at ISI but was noticed by a Harvard professor who offered the young student a fellowship.

AT HARVARD, Swamy had completed his PhD by 24 and moved into teaching. He co-authored a paper on the theory of index numbers with Paul Samuelson (it was published in 1974) and became something of a specialist on the Chinese economy. In 1969, while he was associate professor, he was invited by Amartya Sen to join Delhi School of Economics (DSE). He packed his bags and came home.

Between the invitation and the arrival, fellow-traveller academics at DSE had changed their minds on Swamy. He was seen as too market-friendly and too outspoken — he was already talking of a nuclear deterrent for India — and was offered only a reader’s rank. Indeed, the money sanctioned for the full professorial chair on Chinese studies — the position initially earmarked for Swamy — was returned by DSE to the University Grants Commission.

It was patently unfair and Swamy found support from sections of students. In a famous incident that old-timers at Delhi University still recall, Amit Mitra, now finance minister of West Bengal, bodily lifted Swamy at a gathering. He remains a Swamy favourite, indicating the man’s range of contacts.

Swamy then moved to the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), teaching economics to students there, turning up at hostels to speak on politics and international issues and making a name for himself for his non-left views. He published what he called the ‘Swadeshi Plan’, arguing India didn’t need foreign aid and suggesting a market-friendly alternative to the Five-Year Plans.

With his approach, he said 10 percent growth rates were feasible, as were agricultural exports and a bigger defence budget. It was heresy. In March 1970, during the Parliament debate on the budget, then prime minister Indira Gandhi mentioned Swamy by name and dismissed him as a “Santa Claus with unrealistic ideas”.

Retribution was swift. At 5.15 pm on a December evening in 1972, Swamy was given a letter saying he had been sacked from IIT with effect from 5 pm. His wife, who taught mathematics, was also sacked. Swamy took IIT to court, eventually winning his case in 1991. He rejoined as a professor for one day and then resigned. He still has a case pending against IIT for a claim of salary arrears for the 1972-91 period, which he wants with 18 percent interest.

HOUNDED BY the establishment, Swamy found a natural ally in the Jana Sangh, which sent him to the Rajya Sabha in 1974. In June 1975 came the Emergency and a warrant of arrest. Disguised as a Sikh, Swamy escaped to Chennai (Madras) and then Sri Lanka, flying to the United States where he became a spokesperson for India’s opposition and also took up a visiting professor’s assignment at Harvard.

On 10 August 1976 occurred perhaps the most dramatic episode of the Emergency. It was the opening day of the Monsoon Session. “I had been away from Parliament for six months,” Swamy recalls, “and could have lost my seat for non-attendance. There were also charges that I was enjoying life in America while my colleagues were in jail.” So Swamy returned, entered Parliament and slipped into his seat.

While the chairman of the House (then vice-president BD Jatti) was making the obituary references, Swamy got up and said, “I have a point of order. There is no obituary reference for democracy. It has also died.” A stunned Jatti muttered, “No point of order, no point of order.” He then asked members to stand in silence for those notables who had died recently. “He should have asked the marshal to grab me,” Swamy says, “because there was a warrant to my name.” In the confusion, with the rest of the House standing in silence, Swamy ran out.

The story gets even more comic. Parliament had minimal security those days. Swamy jumped into his car and drove off towards the capital’s Birla Mandir, where he parked and changed his clothes: “I put on a kurta and a kada, trying to resemble a dishevelled Youth Congress thug.” A Sanjay Gandhi public meeting had just got over and Swamy joined a procession moving towards the railway station. He boarded a train to Mathura, then travelled to Nagpur and Mumbai and beyond. Finally he crossed over to Nepal, and flew from there to Bangkok and the United States. The Sangh network facilitated his journey and foreign governments honoured his cancelled passport. The episode made him a hero for Emergency opponents.

HOWEVER, HE had also made one powerful enemy: Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Nobody is quite sure why the feud began. Some say Vajpayee felt threatened. Swamy himself attributes it to a personality clash: “I was Nanaji Deshmukh’s chela, and Nanaji and Vajpayee were drifting apart.”

In 1977, when the Janata Party government was sworn in, Morarji Desai proposed making Swamy minister of state for finance. Vajpayee vetoed it. In 1980, when the BJP was founded, Vajpayee refused to allow Swamy in. “He was the moderate and I the hardliner,” Swamy says, sardonically. He reacted by abusing Vajpayee, questioning his personal life and accusing him of collaborating with Indira Gandhi. On his part, Vajpayee told journalists Swamy had been kept back in the Janata Party “to keep an eye on it”.

Unwittingly, the prophecy acquired a life of its own. Today, Swamy is president and sole spokesman of the rump Janata Party, all that remains of the first great non-Congress experiment.

Two decades later, Vajpayee and Swamy had one final encounter. In 1998, the BJP was seeking the AIADMK’s support to form a government in New Delhi. As MP from Madurai and Jayalalithaa’s ally and ambassador in the capital, Swamy began to negotiate. At one breakfast meeting, the deal seemed to have been done. “Vajpayee promised to make me finance minister,” Swamy says, “but after he got Jayalalithaa’s letter of support, he backtracked.”

Four people were present at that breakfast meeting. One of the other three told this correspondent it was Swamy who had broached the subject of the foreign or finance ministry and that Vajpayee had mumbled without quite committing. Whatever the truth, Swamy was smarting. A year later, he walked into Sonia Gandhi’s office and heard her tell him: “I believe you want to bring down this government, so do I.”

Swamy hosted a famous tea party at a Delhi hotel, invited both Sonia and Jayalalithaa. That led to the AIADMK withdrawing support to Vajpayee’s government, which was voted out in April 1999
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This is where the story gets confusing. Swamy claims Sonia promised to back (or even have her MPs join) a non-Congress, non-BJP led government with him as prime minister: “Chandra Shekhar and HD Deve Gowda were the other names discussed.” In the end, the Congress president tried and failed to get the numbers for a government headed by her party.

In the election that followed, the BJP was re-elected, Vajpayee was back. Jayalalithaa and the Congress had an electoral alliance, but dropped Swamy, who lost his Lok Sabha seat. Out in the cold, he began a long, still unfinished exile from Parliament.

SO IS the exile about to end? BJP President Nitin Gadkari has told party colleagues he is “highly impressed” with Swamy and wants to send him to the Rajya Sabha. Not everybody in the upper echelons of the BJP agrees. Others in the NDA have not been consulted.

Swamy has won over LK Advani and persuaded the RSS and the VHP. Former RSS chief KS Sudarshan, VHP doyen Ashok Singhal and Advani confidant S Gurumurthy have been his advocates. The BJP’s so-called second generation has been resisting.
When Advani mooted the idea at a meeting in 2005, the late Pramod Mahajan is believed to have remarked, “Advaniji, aren’t there enough Subramanian Swamys in the party for you to want to bring in the original?

Swamy has cultivated the VHP as a defender of Hindu causes. Part of his USP is that he can say things and draw analogies that others in the Sangh simply can’t. For instance, after the Allahabad High Court judgment on the Ayodhya dispute, Swamy was on television arguing that no mosque could be constructed in Ayodhya. He compared the idea to building the Islamic centre Cordoba House close to the location of the World Trade Centre in Manhattan.

Politically, Swamy draws his appeal from his hostility to Sonia Gandhi. He alleges she has salted away money abroad and even says the Bofors kickbacks went to her family and not to Rajiv Gandhi. “After Chidambaram,” he says, “my next target is Robert Vadra. I have documents on him. But I will act at a time of my choosing.

The bravado notwithstanding, Swamy has never quite produced hard proof. All he has referred to — the odd line in a KGB official’s translated memoirs, an article in a littleknown newspaper — hardly makes for compelling evidence and is open to more than one interpretation. Also, his effort to drive a wedge between the politics and motivations of Rajiv Gandhi — who he says was a close friend — and Sonia Gandhi doesn’t sound convincing.

Swamy came to know Rajiv in 1989, when Chandra Shekhar became prime minister for four months, backed by the Congress. Swamy was the go-between and served as commerce and law minister. Was a deep and lasting bond formed or were both men simply using each other, as politicians do?

Since Rajiv was under the Bofors cloud at the time, how did this square up with Swamy’s avowed anti-corruption zeal? He says many others were involved in the Bofors deal, including VP Singh (now dead) and Arun Nehru. Nehru of course laughs away the accusation. “I was pushing the CBI to do a deal with Bofors,” Swamy says, “promising to defreeze restrictions on the company if we were given the names.” CBI veterans offer another version. They say, as law minister, Swamy tried to influence the prosecution and jeopardise the case.

THROUGH THESE intrigues and conspiracy theories, there emerges another side to Swamy, almost like a paradox. When he wants the man is capable of astounding intellectual clarity. He was an early advocate of better relations with the US and Israel. He spoke of economic reforms before it became fashionable. His understanding of China has not been disturbed by his strategic distrust of it.

In 1975, he wrote a book called Economic Growth in China and India, 1952–70: A Comparative Appraisal (University of Chicago Press). In it, he said India’s and China’s growth rates were nearly the same (“About 3.5 percent, the so-called Hindu rate of growth”). “I explained India and China had the same per capita GDP of about $250,” he says, “people like Amartya Sen and others were writing of China growing at 10 percent and with a per capita GDP of $1,000.”

Swamy was proved right in a strange way. In 1980, Deng Xiaoping’s China came to the World Bank for concessional aid. The World Bank pointed out as per Chinese data that the country’s per capita GDP was much higher than the concessional-aid threshold. The Chinese discounted the exaggerated Mao-era statistics and offered Swamy’s findings as validation
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Ten years ago, while others were extolling the China miracle, Swamy was already cautioning his interlocutors about the coming problems given lack of growth in internal demand. In 2011, he predicts China is “headed for a serious financial crisis in two years”; “The banking and financial system is rotten.

At Harvard, Swamy had three stints as visiting professor, in the mid-1970s, the mid-1980s and then from 2001 till this summer. He flew down to the US for two months every year: “The weather was good… And on the weekends, I addressed groups of Indians.” It built him a formidable NRI fan club.

At the university itself, he taught two courses — the first on mathematics for economists, and the second on the economic development of China and India. Following his article in the DNA newspaper, a peer group of professors decided to end his contract and not invite him in 2012.

Swamy is expectedly angry. “The Department of Economics wanted me back,” he says, “not one student of mine has complained against me or the article. I have not advocated violence.” Some of Swamy’s suggestions in the article are difficult to defend. For example:
• “Remove the masjid in Kashi Vishwanath temple and the 300 masjids at other temple sites”
• “Implement the Uniform Civil Code, make learning of Sanskrit and singing of Vande Matram mandatory, and declare India a Hindu Rashtra in which non-Hindus can vote only if they proudly acknowledge that their ancestors were Hindus”


Having said that, has Harvard impinged upon Swamy’s right to free speech, even extreme speech? Within the university, there is debate on this. Liberal arts departments in American campuses can be claustrophobic in their political correctness. Does Swamy have a case here? The article was probably not enough for him to be dismissed from a tenure position, so why then deny him a short-term contract?

With his trademark dexterity, Swamy could well turn adversity to advantage. At 72, he’s getting no younger and would have had to stop doing this two-month annual stint sooner or later. Now he has the chance to posit the loss of a lucrative Harvard assignment as a sacrifice for the Hindu cause.

SWAMY IS not a ‘what you see is what you get’ politician. There are layers to him and he is not a straightforward subject to read. Even his Hindutva seems decidedly opportunistic. The wall in his basement office — the same one the blackmailing editor may or may not have visited — was till a few years ago covered with photographs of Swamy alone and with various personages, from Deng to Morarji. Now, keeping these photographs company is a calendar art display of Hindu gods and goddesses.

When did the transition happen? “When the Shankaracharya of Kanchi was arrested (in 2004). I felt Hinduism was being targeted… Hindus were also the victims of terrorism…” The poker face remains just as it was.

Swamy is not immune to playing factional games, or rather exploiting factional fault lines elsewhere. In the 2G swindle, he has targeted Chidambaram but exonerated Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. When he went after Ramakrishna Hegde and succeeded in ensuring his resignation following a phone tapping scandal, there were whispers he was batting for Hegde’s rivals in Karnataka. He was driven by politics; civil liberty was an add-on cause.

At various points, he has attacked M Karunanidhi and Jayalalithaa to, coincidentally, the benefit of the other. Even the corruption case Jayalalithaa faces in Bangalore — for which she recently visited the Karnataka capital — has its origins in a Swamy petition.

All this has earned Swamy the reputation of being a short-term ally. He brushes this aside and insists he never ditches his friends. “Chandraswami, (PV) Narasimha Rao… I was with them when everybody left them…” In the early 1990s, Rao appointed him chairman of a commission to formulate India’s position on the proposal to impose uniform labour standards as part of the upcoming WTO agreement. He gave Swamy a Cabinet rank and invited him to Cabinet meetings. The commission was placed under the commerce ministry, then run by a minister of state: Chidambaram. Outranked then, under fire now, Chidambaram and Swamy have some history.

At the end of the day, Swamy is trusted by few but ignored by even fewer. He can plug into extremely diverse social groups — serious economists, the loony right, the Janata parivar, the TamBrahm fraternity. He can hold both Ram Setu and N Ram close to his heart (or profess to). For all his right-wing politics, the Hindu has been a loyal platform and publisher. His dogs have come from N Ram’s litter, as indeed have Sonia Gandhi’s dogs — but that’s another contradiction, for Swamy to spin another day.

Right now, he’s dreaming of the Rajya Sabha; and giving Chidambaram nightmares.
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Swamy then moved to the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), teaching economics to students there, turning up at hostels to speak on politics and international issues and making a name for himself for his non-left views. He published what he called the ‘Swadeshi Plan’, arguing India didn’t need foreign aid and suggesting a market-friendly alternative to the Five-Year Plans.
Does anyone has this book in PDF format? It is out of print. Will have to drive ~50 miles to get this from a library.

TIA
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SwamyG, Lots of stuff to mind map in the SS article!
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In aboe article about S Swamy

Some of Swamy’s suggestions in the article are difficult to defend. For example:
• “Remove the masjid in Kashi Vishwanath temple and the 300 masjids at other temple sites”
• “Implement the Uniform Civil Code, make learning of Sanskrit and singing of Vande Matram mandatory, and declare India a Hindu Rashtra in which non-Hindus can vote only if they proudly acknowledge that their ancestors were Hindus”
The first one is about Islam's triumphalism and dominance. Building mosques at temple sites is not about the devotion to Islam but triumphalism of victors and mark of dominance over the vast majority of Hindus.

The issue of UCC is really about gender equality for all citizens irregardless of their faith. Shariat should not be used to deny women their property rights.

Whether sham secular Indians realize it or not in Europe and rest of the world sees India as a Hindu nation state. Especially after Pakistan was created as a Muslim state.
Its a matter of time people realize their origins and come to terms with it. Eventually all the world is from India.
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The issue is that majority Hindus themselves do not want to reclaim the temples for the fear of shaking the apple cart. Currently I am gathering funds to rebuild an ancient Narasimha temple whose premisis was claimed by RoP.

Unfortunately even the dharmics do not demand demolition these sights of repression. Human rights do not apply Hindus per these pseudo-intellectuals as they believe thar Hindusim too participated in it. So two wrongs make it right.

Too much of leftist history got into people's minds. I was reading an article and the author is saying the concept of Nishkama Karma in Gita was taken from Bauddha Nagarjuna :((

That is the level of deracination that we are up against.
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Harvard is not concerned about the free speech issue. Harvard would vigorously defend free speech. Harvard is citadel of anti-hindu and specifically promoter of the nonsense history peddlers of AIT and other India baiting narratives. It has a vested interest in promoting hostile views about India. Exhibit A: Witzel and his gang.

Importantly, Harvard is interested in ensuring that India remains Sharia Compliant as much as possible. In the process, even if it has to be Sharia Complaint it will undergo that. Any thought process that challenges such preconceived premise will be vigorously opposed by Harvard. And our eminent journalists and eminent historians will lap it up without batting an eyelid. It is from Harvardappa, and ergo should be unbiased without any agenda.
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RamaY wrote:Currently I am gathering funds to rebuild an ancient Narasimha temple whose premisis was claimed by RoP ... That is the level of deracination that we are up against.
RamaY ji, perhaps it would be better to fund a Holocaust museum, so that people can learn the true history.
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Ramay ji can we help ?
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Try this book for starters. Google has only Table of Contents:

http://books.google.com/books/about/Ind ... 0lAAAAMAAJ

A review:

http://ann.sagepub.com/content/406/1/205.extract
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Day I visited Somnathpur (near Mysore) as a 15 year old, left and indelible mark on my mind ...we need to build a more comprehensive & objective listing of all such sites to ensure it is not glossed over as just decay due to lack of caring

Oops Sorry OT on 2G thread again
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Pranav wrote:
RamaY wrote:Currently I am gathering funds to rebuild an ancient Narasimha temple whose premisis was claimed by RoP ... That is the level of deracination that we are up against.
RamaY ji, perhaps it would be better to fund a Holocaust museum, so that people can learn the true history.
suryag wrote:Ramay ji can we help ?

Pranav ji - Everything in due time.

Suryag - Definitely. Pls drop in a mail at ramay dot brf at gmailwallah.
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somaz wrote:Day I visited Somnathpur (near Mysore) as a 15 year old, left and indelible mark on my mind ...we need to build a more comprehensive & objective listing of all such sites to ensure it is not glossed over as just decay due to lack of caring

Oops Sorry OT on 2G thread again

Mine was visiting the Thousand Pillar Temple in Hanamakonda, Warangal. Next reinforced by visit to Hampi Virupaksha temple complex.
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ramana wrote:Try this book for starters. Google has only Table of Contents:

http://books.google.com/books/about/Ind ... 0lAAAAMAAJ
I saw this and purchased a copy. Will post a summary once read.
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SC ties Khurshid in Loop over Essar clean chit
CBI directed to file response by January 20

The 2G spectrum scam continues to haunt Cabinet Ministers in the UPA Government with the latest being Law Minister Salman Khurshid, whose role has come under the scanner. The Supreme Court on Thursday asked the CBI to explain the alleged “interference” by Khurshid for providing an opinion aimed at weakening the case against Essar and Loop Telecom.

The opinion by the Law Ministry on December 1, 2011 had eroded the CBI case against Essar by giving the latter a clean chit. Although Essar and Loop have been named in the third chargesheet filed by the CBI recently before the Special 2G court, the opinion sought to present Loop Telecom to be independent of Essar and not as a “subsidiary” or “front company” as alleged by CBI.

Viewing the opinion as “interference” by the Minister concerned, the petitioner in the 2G case — Centre for Public Interest Litigation (CPIL) through advocate Prashant Bhushan —had moved an application before the Supreme Court demanding explanation from CBI.

The petitioner highlighted the difference of opinion between Director of Prosecution Abdul Aziz and CBI Director AP Singh, with the former finding no criminal case against Essar and the latter seeking an opinion from the Attorney General GE Vahanvati to make out for a case under IPC Sections 120 B (criminal conspiracy) and 420 (cheating) against the two companies.

The application said, “The interference of an influential Minister in the Government, Law Minister Salman Khurshid, is evident. He is publicly giving clean chit to Essar/Loop.” The bench of Justices GS Singhvi and AK Ganguly issued notice to the CBI, directing a response to be filed in this regard by January 20.

Already four former and sitting Ministers of the UPA Government are under the scanner for their role in the 2G scam. While former Minister A Raja is in jail, Dayanidhi Maran, who was forced to resign over his role in the Aircel-Maxis deal, has been booked by the CBI, which is yet to file a chargesheet against him.

Home Minister P Chidambaram is in the dock after the SC reserved orders on an application moved by Janata Party president Subramanian Swamy seeking enquiry against Chidambaram for his role in colluding with Raja in the 2G spectrum scam. Swamy has even approached the trial court to make the Home Minister a co-accused in the 2G case.

Even Telecom Minister Kapil Sibal is being probed by the Central Vigilance Commission (CVC) for waiving off `650-crore penalty against Reliance Communications for “violation of terms and conditions of universal service obligation fund (USOF) agreement and unified access service license (UASL) agreement by voluntary, unilateral, and unauthorised switching-off/closure of services to subscribers without notice.”

Bhushan’s application questioning the role of Khurshid has only added to the woes of the Centre. Drawing a link between the opinion by the Law Ministry and the CBI decision not to slap Prevention of Corruption charges against Essar and Loop, Bhushan doubted a serious attempt by the Centre to “influence” CBI to weaken the prosecution case against Reliance and Swan, which stands on a similar footing. The Court has asked CBI to explain why the anti-corruption law was not imposed on Essar/Loop.

The court further asked CBI senior counsel KK Venugopal to report by next date on the progress of investigations against Dayanidhi Maran since the FIR filed against him on October 9, 2011.
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It might be useful to do a mind map of all the 2G scam artists.
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Subramanian Swamy gives evidence against P Chidambaram in 2G scam

Janata Party (JP) president Subramanian Swamy on Saturday gave a special court all the evidence he claimed would be sufficient to implicate Home Minister P. Chidambaram in the 2G scam.

Deposing as a witness, Swamy told the court Chidambaram had conspired with former telecom minister A. Raja and consented to his allegedly illegal telecom policies. Swamy provided certified copies of key documents that link the two.

Special CBI judge O.P. Saini has posted the matter for January 21, when Swamy switches roles from witness to complainant. It will allow the JP chief to argue that the court should summon Chidambaram as an accused in the case.

"This evidence reveals the collusion of then finance minister P. Chidambaram in the decisions taken by Raja on the matter of fixing the price of spectrum licences," Swamy told the court under oath.

"The evidence brings on record the commission of offences under the Prevention of Corruption Act for which Raja has already been charged by this court," he added.

Speaking after the proceedings, Swamy said he had given the court a complete picture of the case against Chidambaram. Based on this, he said he had finished his witness testimony and now had to just convince the court that this evidence was sufficient to take the next step in his campaign against Chidambaram - summon him as accused.

Swamy provided the court with certified copies of evidence - including the Shivraj Patil report on 2G spectrum - that Chidambaram was also guilty of breach of trust in question of national security since he did not disclose that Etisalat and Telenor, to which accused Swan Telecom and Unitech Wireless had diluted their shares, had been blacklisted. Also put forward were minutes of meetings and correspondence between Chidambaram and Raja; a letter from Chidambaram to the PM on telecom policy; the controversial Pranab Mukherjee note and a speech given by the PM to the Rajya Sabha.

In 2003, the NDA cabinet had agreed that spectrum pricing would be decided by the ministry of finance and telecom department. This prompted Chidambaram to write a letter to Raja, which Swamy said showed he was aware of the cabinet decision and wanted to further discuss the policy. "After you have had an opportunity to examine this, may we meet and discuss and reach some conclusions? These conclusions could then be presented to the PM," Chidambaram is said to have written.

Along this line, Swamy provided the court certified copies of the minutes of meetings between Chidambaram and Raja wherein they discussed the price of spectrum - specifically the decision to keep it at 2001 rates. "After the 'meeting of minds' took place, the ministers met the PM and conveyed their agreement on the question of spectrum price," Swamy had told the court.

Swamy put forward a "secret" note sent by Chidambaram to the PM following Raja's decision to issue 121 letters of intent to applicants without waiting for the full telecom commission to meet. The CAG report on the 2G matter noted that Chidambaram should have objected to this, but in the note he asked the PM to treat spectrum allocations as a "closed chapter".

A speech by PM Manmohan Singh to the Rajya Sabha in 2011 acted as the final confirmation of the alleged conspiracy between Chidambaram and Raja, according to Swamy's submissions. "The two ministers had agreed on this, because of legacy considerations, and I accepted their recommendation," PM was quoted as having said.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/subr ... 67783.html
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I-T gets wary about secret bank a/c names; asks for oath
New Delhi, January 08, 2012
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Twitter (Jan 7):

Swamy39 Subramanian Swamy
@Simplifyyy : Planning for PC departing. MMS will go if UPA goes. Otherwise I will protect him. Would like him & Pranab to kick out Sonia.

http://twitter.com/swamy39
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2G scam: ED to attach properties worth Rs 223 crore
New Delhi, Jan 10 (PTI)
For the first time in the 2G scam case, the Enforcement Directorate will attach immovable property worth Rs.223 crore of five companies in connection with the alleged bribe of Rs 200 crore paid to Kalaignar TV after an anti-money laundering court today gave its nod.

The competent authority under the Prevention of Money Laundering Act (PMLA) approved the ED order for attachment after hearing the arguments of all the parties.
"The attachment order has been upheld by the PMLA court here," official sources said.

The value of properties attached of these companies are Dynamix Realty (Rs 134 crore), Conwood Construction and Developers (Rs 22 crore), Nihar Constructions (Rs 1.10 crore), DB Realty (Rs 52 crore) and Eversmile Construction Company (Rs 13 crore).

The agency had made the CBI charge sheets in this regard as the basis for this order.

"As per the charge sheets of CBI, a bribe of Rs 200 crore was given by Swan Telecom Pvt. Ltd. (now M/s Etisalat DB Telecom Pvt. Ltd.) to Kalaignar TV through a number of intermediary companies in the garb of loan or share application money.

"However, the same was returned to Dynamix Realty (a company of Shahid Usman Balwa and Vinod Goenka)," ED had earlier said in its order.


"The details of the charge sheets show disclosures made by the intermediary companies in the movement of the bribe money under the garb of loan or share application money do not substantiate genuine and bonafide financial transactions," the order said.
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DB Realty aka Dynamix Balwas Realty aka Swan Telecom is a benami company of dawood ibrahim and home minister chidambaram helped it get telecom licenses even after being blacklisted for terror links

vikramd wrote:Subramanian Swamy gives evidence against P Chidambaram in 2G scam
New Delhi, January 8, 2012
Janata Party (JP) president Subramanian Swamy on Saturday gave a special court all the evidence he claimed would be sufficient to implicate Home Minister P. Chidambaram in the 2G scam.
Swamy provided the court with certified copies of evidence - including the Shivraj Patil report on 2G spectrum - that Chidambaram was also guilty of breach of trust in question of national security since he did not disclose that Etisalat and Telenor, to which accused Swan Telecom and Unitech Wireless had diluted their shares, had been blacklisted. Also put forward were minutes of meetings and correspondence between Chidambaram and Raja; a letter from Chidambaram to the PM on telecom policy; the controversial Pranab Mukherjee note and a speech given by the PM to the Rajya Sabha.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/subr ... 67783.html

Is Shahid Balwa Dawood’s aide?
March 06, 2011
Three days after the Supreme Court ordered CBI to probe into the national security angle aspect of the 2G spectrum scam, the Delhi high court will decide on Monday if one of the accused, Shahid Balwa, promoter of DB Realty (Swan Telecom) had links with underworld don Dawood Ibrahim. Swan Telecom, now known as Etisalat DB Telecom, was allegedly favoured by prime accused, former telecom minister A Raja, in spectrum allocation.

Balwa was arrested in Mumbai on February 7.

He had moved the Delhi HC two months before it on December 3, 2010 against an official note from the ministry of home affairs (MHA) recommending Foreign Investment Promotion Board (FIPB) to deny permission to Etisalat to invest money in a Chennai-based firm, citing as one of the four reasons that he shouldn’t be associated with the company either as a director or in other capacity as he has links with the underworld.

According to sources, MHA had objected to the proposal of the UAE-based Etisalat to increase its stake in its Indian arm, Etisalat DB, citing the Dubai company’s presence in Pakistan and Afghanistan. CBI and IB allege Dawood invested large sums of money in Balwa's firm, which was used by him to finance many of his business deals.

“Balwa made several trips to Dubai, Dawood's hideout, in his private airplane. Investigative agencies are seeking details of these trips from the DGCA”, said the source.
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Chidambaram is an agent of dawood ibrahim
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RoyG wrote:Twitter (Jan 7):

Swamy39 Subramanian Swamy
@Simplifyyy : Planning for PC departing. MMS will go if UPA goes. Otherwise I will protect him. Would like him & Pranab to kick out Sonia.

http://twitter.com/swamy39

When this happens there will be run on the rupee.
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While Chidambaram may be a Pathan in his outlook, Subramanian Swamy is Sicilian. Soon after escaping from the prospect of jail in 1997, he filed a complaint against Chidambaram, alleging that the Finance Minister had misused his position to get promoters shares in Fairgrowth, an investment subsidiary of a nationalised bank. The Delhi High Court issued notice to the minister, who admittedly had been allotted the shares. However, masterful arguments by counsel Arun Jaitley led to the court asking Swamy for a fresh complaint, because of a technicality. Fortunately for Chidambaram, the Lok Sabha elections took place soon afterwards, in 1998, and Swamy lost interest in pursuing the case.

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