The Jan Lokpal Bill, Anna Hazare, and Baba Ramdev II

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 27 Dec 2011 10:47

http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=745621

A handful of anti-Anna Hazare protesters today showed black flags to the anti-graft campaigner, who is set to begin his three-day fast here against the "weak" Lokpal Bill.

The convoy of Hazare, on way to Mahatma Gandhi's statue on Juhu beach, was briefly stopped by around 20 men carrying black flags and national tricolour and shouting "Anna Hazare murdabad", close to the guest house where the activist stayed overnight.

The identity of the protesters was not immediately known.

However, soon the convoy left for Juhu where Hazare paid respects at Mahatma Gandhi's statue, along with key members of his team Arvind Kejriwal, Kiran Bedi, Manish Sisodia and former Karnataka Lokayukta Santosh Hegde. Kejriwal and Bedi are scheduled to fast with Hazare.

Earlier, Hazare, looking a bit under the weather left the state government guest house at Bandra. He was suffering from cold and fever and was under medication.

Hazare, after paying tributes to the father of the nation, sent for a mattress on which he sat in meditation in front of the Mahatma's statue. He will later proceed to the MMRDA ground at Bandra-Kurla Complex.

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 27 Dec 2011 12:16

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 27 Dec 2011 13:48

Sushma ji is taking the bill to the cleaners like Gawd does

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 27 Dec 2011 18:01

Gandhi clan blamed for keeping India in poverty - http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/12/2 ... A120111226

(Reuters) - The Gandhi dynasty that has ruled India for most of the 64 years since independence has kept the world's largest democracy in poverty, members of Anna Hazare's team said on Monday as they prepared renewed rallies to target the government on corruption.
...
"India was not destined to be a poor country, India was destined to be a developed country but corruption has kept it poor," said Kiran Bedi, a member of Hazare's inner circle.

"Who has exercised corruption? The party in power, and the party in power for the majority of the years has been the Congress party and in the Congress party, the Gandhi family."

somaz · Post by **somaz** » 27 Dec 2011 20:32

Pranav wrote:
Gandhi clan blamed for keeping India in poverty - http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/12/2 ... A120111226

(Reuters) - ... Congress party and in the Congress party, the Gandhi family."

Pet peeve - we need to start referring to it as "Nehru family using Gandhi Name"

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 27 Dec 2011 20:35

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/world ... ml?_r=1&hp

On Tuesday, India’s all-news television channels carried continuous live footage on split screens, contrasting Mr. Hazare’s protest in Mumbai with the parliamentary arguments under way in New Delhi.

The Lokpal fight poses a critical challenge for the Indian National Congress party, which leads the national coalition government and has been sharply criticized for an ineffective response to corruption. For months, Mr. Hazare and leaders of the political opposition have lacerated the Congress party over corruption scandals and are now attacking the government’s Lokpal legislation as too weak.

But Congress party leaders appeared determined to use Tuesday’s parliamentary debate to place the political onus on their opponents. Kapil Sibal, a powerful government minister, signaled a tougher tone by arguing that opposition leaders were deliberately trying to defeat the government’s bill so that the political status quo would remain unchanged.

“The whole country wants Parliament to pass this law as quickly as possible,” Mr. Sibal argued.

The government extended the current session of Parliament through Thursday to provide time for lawmakers to debate and vote on the Lokpal bill. The Lok Sabha, or lower house, must first vote on the legislation before it can advance to the upper house, or Rajya Sabha. If approved, the Lokpal would be created as a nine-person board empowered to investigate corruption allegations against bureaucrats and elected officials, including the prime minister.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Dec 2011 20:43

Anna is losing numbers on the street. In Kolkatta just 90 people turned up. Where are the fancy "fight for India's second independence movement" as there are not even 5000 in MMRDA in Mumbai ? Delhi is having comparitively good crowd at Ram lila grounds. All the other places the numbers are really really down. It is a working day and that could be another reason.

The anticipation is that due to Baba Ramdev there could be a larger crowd tomorrow.

The jan-LokPal is dying as the fancy crowd started looking as they see it is a time waste because zing thing is no more there. They are not getting some Tahir Square type respectability. ( "Bestern media style measurements" ) Another stuff is the more Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri types attend by sharing Anna's podium the lesser the crowd. By the way Anna is disruption the New Year pautties yaar.

Anna failed to provide the "cooool thing factor" for this crowd

Jail baro with what?

I think the debate in LS is another timepass. Every party other than congress is opposing one clause or other. So will all the cut motions and other junk it may not even get passed with the original intent. Even if it passed Loksabha, it will fall flat in RS which needs a joint session to get it passed.

The nation is discussion a farse called as anti-corruption bill when the Government has comitted crimes such as CWG, 2G.

chiragAS · Post by **chiragAS** » 27 Dec 2011 21:11

IMO
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As for NGOs are concerned, All NGOs need to be scrutinised. There are loads of NGO who channelise funds for sepratists groups working against India be it commie sponsored maoist lover NGOs or those famed ones who openly support hurriyat types. Just because it can be used against IAC doesn't mean it should be not be implemented.

/IMO

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 27 Dec 2011 21:15

Frankly speaking the way UPA-II is working under the diktats of NAC, it is better if NAC bills do not pass (because of any reason), otherwise so-called Anna disruption will look like picnic.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 27 Dec 2011 21:41

CBI is outside of Lokpal in Government version.
CBI is inside of Jan Lokpal.

What are the pros/cons of CBI in or out?

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 27 Dec 2011 22:05

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Dec 2011 22:08

As expected the congress' B-Teams SP & BSP walked out.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 27 Dec 2011 22:09

Muppalla wrote:Anna is losing numbers on the street. In Kolkatta just 90 people turned up. Where are the fancy "fight for India's second independence movement" as there are not even 5000 in MMRDA in Mumbai ? Delhi is having comparitively good crowd at Ram lila grounds. All the other places the numbers are really really down. It is a working day and that could be another reason.

The anticipation is that due to Baba Ramdev there could be a larger crowd tomorrow.

The jan-LokPal is dying as the fancy crowd started looking as they see it is a time waste because zing thing is no more there. They are not getting some Tahir Square type respectability. ( "Bestern media style measurements" ) Another stuff is the more Baba Ramdev and Sri Sri types attend by sharing Anna's podium the lesser the crowd. By the way Anna is disruption the New Year pautties yaar. Anna failed to provide the "cooool thing factor" for this crowd Jail baro with what?

I think the debate in LS is another timepass. Every party other than congress is opposing one clause or other. So will all the cut motions and other junk it may not even get passed with the original intent. Even if it passed Loksabha, it will fall flat in RS which needs a joint session to get it passed.

The nation is discussion a farse called as anti-corruption bill when the Government has comitted crimes such as CWG, 2G.

I agree. The Congress has masterfully sucked most of the air out of the movement. As much as I hate the congress, I cant help but admire how they are able to cling to power. It's by no means an easy feat. By the looks of it, Rahul will be made PM in the next couple months and the whole party will be invigorated. This factor coupled with a successful partnership in UP and trouncing the biggest anti corruption movement the nation has ever seen will probably take them past 2012.

However, a couple factors in my opinion may work against the party: Communal Violence Bill, UP elections, Ramdev, Sswamy picking off congress big dogs, economic slowdown, rise in terrorism coinciding with US pullout from Afghanistan, *Modi*

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Dec 2011 22:37

The Government actually has accepted most of the BJP's sugesstions as amendments. The minorities stuff may be a poll stuff. The constitutional amendment will get defeated and congress is ok to be defeated on the amendment as they only may want to use it for rhetoric.

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 27 Dec 2011 22:42

Looking at the cold response that Anna's movement is getting I can only think how pathetic the situation in India has become where people are not even willing to spend a day or two to support a just cause. Think most people are totally disenchanted with government or are silently colluding with government in vilifying good bunch of people. Some of these guys supporting may have ulterior motives but this this does not take away their hardwork to do some lasting change. I can understand why 60 years old or poor would not join because of those above 60's 70 percent are both corrupt or have given/taken bribes one way or another and are comfortable with it because they have 20 odd more years to live on pensions laughing in the park in the morning and doing exercises while poor will just want to work so that they have some money to feed at end of day. Housewives are not much interested other than daily SOP's. I have started seriously believing that Rahul coterie is burning midnight oil to water down this bill to end up as a joke. Man we need serious awareness among people to make them aware on what it means to live in a corruption free society. At this rate I see India's future very very bleak and sliding towards autocratic elitist corrupt society. It is a stupid thing to keep CBI or for that matter anyone out of lokpal ?
We will have 0 credibility in the world if GoI will failed to pass a simple anti bribery bill. This will seal our position in elite league of banana republics. A very dangerous 2012 for us indeed.
We need to decentralise power like USA. No wonder India's migration rate is highest in the world.
People are sick of being ruled by bunch of jokers, goons and currupt people. Right to recall is the way to go. UK is implementing it soon and I would expect to die in India where we have this option. ~50 years.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 27 Dec 2011 22:59

Muppalla wrote:The Government actually has accepted most of the BJP's sugesstions as amendments.

CBI and classes C & D are the important issues. Doubt the Kangressis will budge.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 27 Dec 2011 23:03

^^^ The bill has passed. Crucial parties absented themselves

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 27 Dec 2011 23:28

RoyG wrote:As much as I hate the congress, I cant help but admire how they are able to cling to power. It's by no means an easy feat.

The true skill lies in
(1) managing EVMs
(2) persuading a large number of people that there are a large number of people who support the congress (which is quite different from persuading a large number of people to support the congress; the actual number of congress supporters need not be high).

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Dec 2011 23:38

The Lok Sabha is being made a mockery. Constitutional amendment bill failed to be passed. Utter pathetic floor management by the Government.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 27 Dec 2011 23:39

Limitation of 7 years as against no limitation in Prevention of corruption Act. You have to give it to our dearest and Beloved MPs.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Dec 2011 23:59

The LokPal is a jokepal finally. The way MPs of India are conducting themselves there is a huge deadlock and the Government is NOT at all working for an consensus. The bill is heading for a disaster. In LS, the UPA did not attend in total. The allies dissented and the government did not have even 50% to ammend a constitution. They have to fire all their floor managers.

BJP fished in troubled waters and caught the government is strippe naked.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 Dec 2011 00:04

RoyG wrote:As much as I hate the congress, I cant help but admire how they are able to cling to power. It's by no means an easy feat.

Key point to note for the people who want BJP or other INC alternatives to be equally shrude.

INC's strategies and tactics are centered around in staying in power, no matter what including the deterioration of Indic fabric and Indian Interests.

What is the point of the alternatives if they too become INC like?

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 28 Dec 2011 00:06

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 270660.cms

Lok Sabha on Tuesday night passed the Lokpal Bill with amendments by voice vote with the Left parties, SP and BSP walking out in protest before the voting. This was one of the most hotly debated bills both inside and outside Parliament in recent times.

Meanwhile, in a strong speech pitching for the Lokpal bill, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh Tuesday said a final decision on the legislation must rest with parliament and stressed that the CBI should be independent of Lokpal.

Speaking in the Lok Sabha during the debate on the bill tabled last week, the Prime Minister said the bill "lives up to the promise that members of this house collectively made to the people of the country by the way of 'sense of house'".

He also said that it is wrong to dub all bureaucracy and politicians as "corrupt" or "dishonest."

"It (passage of the bill) is a serious business and must eventually be performed by all of us who have been constitutionally assigned. Others can persuade and their voices heard, but the decision must rest with us," Singh said referring to Anna Hazare, who is fasting in Mumbai for a strong Lokpal.

Hazare is fasting for three days while parliament is debating the Lokpal bill Dec 27-29.

On the CBI, the Prime Minister said: "I believe that the CBI should function independently of the Lokpal. I also believe that the CBI should function independently of the government. But independent does not mean absence of accountability."

"We have, therefore, proposed a framework for the appointment of CBI director which involves the prime minister, the chief justice of India or his nominee, and the leader of the opposition in the Lok Sabha and no one should have doubt about the integrity of this process," he added.

He said as far as the issue of the CBI functioning under Lokpal is concerned, the government believes this could create an executive structure outside parliament, which is accountable to none.

Singh remarked that bureaucracy has been "at the receiving end" and all bureaucrats and politicians should not be perceived as corrupt.

"In the course of this debate, bureaucracy has been at the receiving end. I don't think that all public functionaries need to be painted with the same brush just as all politicians should not be presumed to be dishonest or corrupt," he said, receiving thunderous response from MPs.

"There are some very special moments in the life of the nation. This is one of them that how collective wisdom of this august house will be reflected in the debate on Lokpal and Lakayuktas," he added.

"The broad provisions of the bill have been debated both in public domain and by political parties. It is my honest belief that the bill which is now before the house lives up to the promise that members of this house collectively made to the people of the country by the way of 'sense of house'," the prime minister added.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Dec 2011 00:18

The Lokpal and Lokayukta are not constitutional bodies because the constutional amendment failed due to lack of numbers. The Lokpal that is passed is no different from the current Lokayuktas that various states have. Even this is not yet over. Now in RS if more changes are passed because the combined oppostion is far larger than UPA, it will comeback to LS. It may go to a joint session and that can happen only next year.

So it will be just a rhetoric.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Dec 2011 00:36

Whatever people may say, it is really convincing to say that Pranab and PM ensured that Rahul baba will not ascend. They ensured that the constitutional amendment where the state's rights will be taken over by center did not get passed.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 28 Dec 2011 00:55

Mumbaikars are a hopeless bunch, Mumbai is a lost case seems like.

So much so for the pride in Maximum city. Maximally money minded city more like.

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 28 Dec 2011 03:48

http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=745731

After failed moves over the past 43 years, Lok Sabha tonight passed a historic bill to create a nine-member anti-corruption watchdog Lokpal after a marathon debate but the government suffered a major embarassment when the legislation to give it a Constitutional status was defeated for want of requisite two-third majority.

But the UPA government suffered a major embarrassment in the Lok Sabha late tonight when it defeated the Bill giving Lokpal a constitutional status.

The Bill, which was an idea of Rahul Gandhi to give constitutional status to Lokpal, failed to muster the required two-third majority of those present and voting in all the three clauses.

The House witnessed high drama as voting on the three clauses showed that the ruling side had failed to get the required number of 273 in favour, prompting Speaker Meira Kumar to drop the clause from the bill.

An angry Leader of the House Pranab Mukherjee termed the development as "a sad day for democracy", blamed the Opposition especially BJP for the fiasco and warned them that "people will teach you a lesson".
On the Clause two, 247 voted in favour and 178 against, while in Clause three 251 were in favour and 179 against. Clause one received 250 and 180 against.

UPA Chairperson Sonia Gandhi and Leader of the House Pranab Mukherjee appeared to be worried as voting slips were counted.

Some BJP members were heard alleging that the lobbies had been opened, but Speaker Meira Kumar repeatedly said that "lobbies are closed and I have not ordered them to be opened. It is not good to make such charges. Don't doubt, have faith."

At one point, Speaker said it was "wrong to cast aspersions on the Chair. Please don't do it".

Mukherjee conceded that Lokpal Bill "may not be the best but it is not worse. It is good. It doesn't mean we should give up the good to achieve the best."

He said there "may be some omissions" but it was not unusual.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Dec 2011 03:58

^^^
Rahul's game plan in giving constitutional authority to take aways the rights of state governments in appointing Lokayuktas. For example probably without the approval of Modi they can appoint Former Chief Justuce Balakrishnan as Lokayukta of Gujarat. BJP killed the constitutional amendment. Their own allied were not present as well. Mamta, Mulayam, Maya, Jaya abstained from all sorts of voting on Lokpal. Sensing the situation BJP killed the bill.

Now it moves to RS where there are about 35 amendment and the government is more vulenerable in RS. The expectation is that Lokpal bill will have to be approved by LS again to accomadate RS amendments. If the government is not in agreement with the amendments then they may have to call a joint session in Jan next year to revisit the bill.

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 28 Dec 2011 03:58

http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=745732

With the Constitution Amendment Bill on Lokpal failing in Lok Sabha, BJP tonight demanded resignation of the UPA government on moral grounds.

"Government should resign on moral grounds. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has no moral right to continue in office," BJP leader Yashwant Sinha told reporters after the embarrassing development for the government.

He noted that the government could not muster even simple majority of 273 votes in favour as it managed only 250 votes on the crucial legislation.

"Rahul Gandhi's dream has been shattered. This shows the monumental inefficiency of this government."

"I had said during my speech that Prime Minister spoke as if he was making his farewell speech. If any morality left is left in them, they should quit," Sinha said.

On the attack by Leader of the House Pranab Mukherjee for the defeat of the bill, he said he was indulging in politics.

Sinha said it was the government's responsibility to ensure the requisite numbers in the House and not that of the Opposition.

CPI leader Gurudas Dasgupta said the government should "look into the mirror" as it could not mobilise the required strength for the Constitution Amendment Bill.

He said the Lokpal was no more a Lokpal "but only its caricature".

Minister of State for DoPT V Narayanasamy, who had moved the Lokpal and Lokayukta Bill, said, "We will bring the Bill to Rajya Sabha. We will try hard for its passage there despite knowing that we don't have a majority."

BJP leader Gopinath Munde also demanded that the UPA government should quit on moral grounds as they "miserably failed" to garner the requisite support.

Reacting to the charges, Congress spokesperson Abhishek Manu Singhvi trained guns on the BJP for the defeat of the bill, saying "a good idea ought not to have been rejected only for political reasons".

"How can those who have rejected the Bill justify their conduct in light of the need for a Lokpal withn an enhanced status," he said.

Trinamool Congress MP Kalyan Banerjee blamed the CPI-M and other Left parties for "colluding with the BJP" to defeat the legislation.

Union Minister Kapil Sibal said the BJP has "shown its true colour. They never wanted any law to fight corruption".

"The Opposition is a stumbling block and they will pay for it," he said.

Sibal's Cabinet colleague Salman Khurshid said BJP "betrayed us".

"We have achieved in getting a Lokpal. We had promised a Lokpal and the Lokpal Bill has been passed. A statutory Lokpal, at least, has been established," Khurshid said.

The constitutional status the UPA government wanted to give, could not be given, he said.

"Why don't you ask the BJP who did not let us do so. We had the majority and that is why the Lokpal Bill got passed."

Reacting to Congress attacks against the Opposition, CPI-M leader Sitaram Yechury said for the UPA to have got the Constitution Amendment Bill passed, they required support of 273 members. "But the UPA's strength stands at 275."

"So it is clear that they could not mobilise their own support base, with the Trinamool Congress also not backing them fully.

"Either the Congress was not really interested in this or it miserably failed in its floor management. Blaming the Opposition for this defeat is a flimsy excuse," Yechury said.

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 28 Dec 2011 07:38

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 273441.cms

The government faces a battle to get its version of the Lokpal bill passed in the Rajya Sabha on Wednesday. UPA-II has 99 MPs in the Upper House, while the opposition has 131. The government will be hoping SP and BSP-with 23 members between them-repeat Tuesday's walkout. It is then counting on 14 independent and nominated MPs to tilt the balance in its favour. But opposition leaders are confident of their numbers.

SP and BSP walked out of the Lok Sabha before the voting on three legislations - Lokpal Bill, Constitution Amendment Bill and the Whistleblowers' Bill. Although the two parties said they were protesting against the "weak" Lokpal Bill, their action eased government's task and seemed to throw a spanner in the opposition's plan to block the legislation in the RS where the UPA does not have a majority.

A repeat SP-BSP show in the RS would mean the opposition's plan to defeat government bill could remain a pipe-dream. If SP and BSP walk out, then government would have an edge. Opposition's strength would be reduced to 108 and the government, with support of independent and nominated members, would go up to 114. But it remains to be seen if such a scenario plays out. After the defeat of the Constitution amendment bill, all bets are off.

niran · Post by **niran** » 28 Dec 2011 08:16

was watching LSTV last night (generally me watch kirkit onlee) you should have seen the shockwave
shaking UPA when their proposed Amendment fell even i could feel it through the TV. most fasinating
Drama i tell ye all.

niran · Post by **niran** » 28 Dec 2011 08:24

Muppalla wrote:Whatever people may say, it is really convincing to say that Pranab and PM ensured that Rahul baba will not ascend. They ensured that the constitutional amendment where the state's rights will be taken over by center did not get passed.

bingo! see this gives fire to the rumors of palace intrigue between Shree MMS dada and didi on one side with you know who on the other side.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 28 Dec 2011 08:45

The Congress still has not learnt the lessons of the past and has little understood the rage of the nation against corruption,and that means "Congress-led UPA corruption!" If it thinks that it can survive and win elections thanks to its spin-doctors,snake-oil has a limited shelf life as its almost mouthless mendicant ,Dr.Singh should know by now.

Similarly,Anna H too should realise that "fasting" has its own limitations.The people's bellies are also rather full of "fasts" and a "fast buck" cannot replace solid legislation that only parliament can introduce and pass into law.He cannot bring out lakhs every time he decides to go on a fast.His team should now adopt tactics to influence the vote on the Bill in parliament and use other tactics like boycotts,etc, to make his point.What he has achieved is remarkable,by bringing the most arrogant govt. in Indian history post-Independence to its knees and literally force-feeding it to bring the Bill before parliament.The AH movement is now a political moral force of heavyweight status.He should not reduce its influence by using the same tactics over and over again.The time has now come for him to meet Opposition leaders from all shades of the spectrum and work for a consensus much as JPN did to unite them against the Congress/UPA.His words and interviews in the media are enough to influence votes...as of now.

The Congress is in utter disarray.Rahul G and his good intentions are as far apart from the rest of his party as they are to AH.The defeat of his move to make the Bill "Constitutional" is a huge blow and loss of prestige for him.All that he can do know is to try and salvage his personal reputation by personally lobbying for the Bill in the RS.As for the Opposition,they must continue to put maximum pressure upon this Imperialist scam-ridden regime,plugging loopholes wherever it can.Sometimes,"discretion is the better part of valour".It needs to assess its strengths and weaknesses within parliament,remain united and defeat the UPA wherever it can.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Dec 2011 10:06

This bill is over. They already announced that they have to get it signed by President as there a lot of amendments to the original bill. After President's signature only they can even introduce in RS. It is not possbile before new year as things stand.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 28 Dec 2011 10:42

Turnout at MMRDA is low because of:

1) They planned fasts on working days (to coincide with bills discussion/passage in Loksabha, which is little ambitious on IAC's part)
2) Holiday season. Staff at the offices at 50%. Willing people cannot get leave.
3) MMRDA is not easily accessible for everyone compared to Azad Maidan etc

Do not forget Bandra Juhu rally held recently, the rally was stretching from Bandra to Santacruz. It was Sunday. People joined in large number even it was raining heavily. Most of the people who joined that rally were educated and committed type and not jingoes.

just a remider:

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 28 Dec 2011 14:36

Sonia blames BJP for defeat of Constitution Bill

Gandhi said the BJP had actually committed itself to supporting Constitutional status to Lokpal in the Standing Committee deliberations.
"But yesterday, we saw their real face. The strength we wanted to give to Lokpal Bill, they did not want it and voted against it," Gandhi told reporters here.
She did not respond to questions on how the government will get the bill passed in Rajya Sabha as it does not have the numbers. "Happy New Year to you all," she said as media persons persisted with the query.

Cheers

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 28 Dec 2011 16:08

20 of Con MPs were missing. Why blame BJP, sonyaben?

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 28 Dec 2011 16:11

Anna ends fast!

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 28 Dec 2011 16:50

Anna cancels jail bharo for now.

Agitation at Ramlila on 30th

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 28 Dec 2011 18:28

Tain Tain Phis Phis
Now Would Anna support INC in UP Election??
We get a Shikhandi Lokpal.
PM and Parliament represents the people and they have mandate (?) but same would not apply to some even if they come thru elections. Is it double std??