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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/the- ... 20488.html
Air-Launched Missile
Range 200 km
Weight of missile 2 tonne :shock:
Warhead 500 kg
length 4 m :shock:
Status Hypersonic missile :eek: project called the Air Launched Article :rotfl: .
Designed to fit under the belly of a Su-30MKI. First prototype by 2012.
Which is this super duper missile with 2 ton weight, length of 4 meter onlee but able to to go 200km and which is called Air launched Article? :lol: :D
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Kanson wrote:Very much positively one can conclude that India will have some form of air launched Anti ballistic missile, owing to its unique geographic situation and proximity to its adversary.
Taking out any BM in boost phase will be the most easiest part of BM interception and since we in so proximity with each other and pakistan lacks depth which means most areas are at around 300 km range ,Air Launched boost phase interception is most preferable ,desirable ,critical.

But experience has also shown that finding TEL inspite of complete Aerial Superiority can be tough as US found out in Gulf War they could not locate a single TEL inspite of complete air dominance.

I dont think US found even a single TEL during the late Operation Enduring (Iraqi ) Freedom when Iraqi succfully fired Abdali and Al-Samod class of missile , inspite of minimum resistance ......and more then a decade after Gulf War ....shows how tough it can be.

We need to have JSTARS type asset besides AWACS which can see in every weather all thing that crawls and moves , would aid reducing the sensor to shooter time so badly needed for boost phase , that will not last more than 3 - 5 minutes.
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Hi Uddu - I was just thinking of such missile and there you have posted details about the same. many thanks.. I hope we are in advance stage of this missile as we need it badly.. Cheers
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Flt Cdt Parowski wrote:Hi Uddu - I was just thinking of such missile and there you have posted details about the same. many thanks.. I hope we are in advance stage of this missile as we need it badly.. Cheers
If my memory serves me right, I recall that there are 3 or 4 such ALCM/AGM projects.

There is one that DRDO trying to consolidate with Akash Ram rocket tech for an AGM with some 1200KM range.But that was a supersonic one.

And the one with AAD converted to AGM is another spin-off which surfaced recently other than 2 hypersonic ones that were in progress for a long time and waiting for final assembly and initial ground testing.

This decade we will get to see tens of new missiles for different roles.And most of them being spin-offs.
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^^^^^^^

Above post has been deleted from livefist - looks like IAF must have frowned upon it.
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If the IAF frowned upon it, Brahmos wouldn't have put the images on their calendar, presumably in print, which is what Shiv Aroor wrote of the source of the images. He probably had other reasons for taking his post offline, e.g. Brahmos claiming copyright.
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Is that white missile Astra ?
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That picture is that of a dummy missile in some airshow. He thought it was the real thing and pulled it off after people pointed it out.
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I thought brahmos would fit tucked in between those inlets way up .. or why is it latched so low to the ground?
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Thanks, sivab ji!
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Isn't this picture from AI-2011?
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uddu wrote:http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/the- ... 20488.html
Air-Launched Missile
Range 200 km
Weight of missile 2 tonne :shock:
Warhead 500 kg
length 4 m :shock:
Status Hypersonic missile :eek: project called the Air Launched Article :rotfl: .
Designed to fit under the belly of a Su-30MKI. First prototype by 2012.
Which is this super duper missile with 2 ton weight, length of 4 meter onlee but able to to go 200km and which is called Air launched Article? :lol: :D
ALA MIJJILE
Probably an adapted variant of K-15/B-05/Shaurya that can be launched from a MKI.
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Anyone still interested in the pics, right click on the pic, copy the URL and download them while they are there.
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CCS nod for missile deal for Mirages
NEW DELHI: The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) has approved the $1.2 billion deal for the new weapon compliment for the Mirage 2000 fighter jets of the Indian Air Force (IAF) that will give the aircraft a superior firepower capability to hit the enemy beyond its visual range.

Along with the earlier contract signed with French firms valuing $2.4 billion, it is the second largest defence deal signed with France after the project to construct six Scorpene submarines at the Mazagon Docks Limited (MDL) costing $5.23 billion. The deal was the main highlight of the visit of French President Nicholas Sarkozy to India, but could not be finalised owing to price issues. Under the contract, the IAF will be procuring about 500 air-to-air missiles from French armament firm MBDA. While MBDA will be the weapon provider, French company Thales will be the weapon integrator.

According to sources, the CCS chaired by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh cleared the Euro 950 million ($1.2 billion) deal for acquisition of 490 MICA missiles.

The IAF presently has 51 Mirage fighter jets in its inventory and they will be undergoing upgrades at the cost of $ 1.47 billion, as per a contract signed in 2011. Already two aircraft have flown to France for upgradation. The remaining aircraft will be modernised here in India at the Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL). The upgradation of the entire fleet is expected to be completed by mid-2021.

The missile deal also entails 30 percent offsets, which means that MBDA will be investing $ 410.7 million in the Indian defence sector. The Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) makes it mandatory for foreign vendors getting contracts upwards of `300 crore to invest 30 percent of the value of the deal in the domestic defence industry, including civil aerospace and homeland security.
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‘Agni 5 missile will be tested within 2-3 months’
Jan 08, 2012 - Rashme Sehgal | Age Correspondent | Bhubaneswar

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The project director of the DRDO Advanced Systems Laboratory at Kanchangagh, Dr Tessy Thomas, said that India was ready to test launch the nuclear-capable Agni 5 missile within the next two-three months.
A dedicated team of 1,000 scientists are working round-the-clock to fully operationalise this missile which will bring targets as far away as northern China within reach.

“This has been a highly challenging experience for me because a highly accurate system has been developed,’’ she said while speaking at the 99th Indian Science Congress. Dr Thomas described Agni 5 as “a totally new system from top to bottom”, including nose tip to the base. Every subsystem was new, and the challenge was to prove the whole system.”
“Agni 1, 2 and 3 have been inducted into the Army while Agni 4 has been tested. But more tests are required for Agni 4,” she revealed.
The Indian military scientific community was extremely excited at the success of flight trial of the nuclear-capable Agni 4. “It was a textbook flight and it is difficult to describe the joy we experienced at the success of Agni 4,” said this gutsy woman scientist who admitted, “(the development of) Agni 4 was a challenging experience for me.
Agni 5 is a ballistic missile with a range approaching ICBMs in the armory of China, Russia and the US. The three-state Agni 5 is undergoing integration at the moment but all Dr Thomas said on this subject was that “advances are coming within milli-seconds.”
When asked whether India was going to develop an ICBM, Dr Thomas replied, “Agni 5 is the kind of missile which will meet the security challenges that India faces.”
When asked about China providing a great deal of assistance to enhance Pakistan’s missile program, Thomas said she had no comments to make on this subject.
Both the Agni 4 and the Agni 5 stacked up admirably when compared to other nations’ missiles with similar ranges.
Compared to older Agni missile variants, the Agni 4 and 5 both have better strike precision and can be primed transported with greater ease. Earlier missiles were based on rail mobile launchers which needed an exhaustive infrastructure support but Agni 4 and Agni 5 are based on road mobile launchers.
God bless the engineers scientists working tirelessly for the nation.
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Big Daddy Warms Up for Target Thandavam, Agni-V
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Anantha Krishnan M :arrow: Tarmak 007
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Someone should present him a book on Hindu theogony.

Only Shiva does thandavam. And AV is not the vehicle for that.
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ramana wrote:Someone should present him a book on Hindu theogony.
er Hindu folklore. In the absence of evidence it does not become myth-ology. Sorry OT 8)
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From the above article..
“It also carries multiple instrumentation systems and is designed to carry single payload. Like all other Agni missiles, this is also nuclear capable. It is a road mobile system with a range of more than 5,000 km,
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http://defenseindex.com/wp-content/uplo ... hmos11.jpg

Its a mock BrahMos on MKI. The interesting thing is its length..all the way up to the end. :eek:
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the real thing has to be shorter...dont see how it can flare and land without scraping the missile on floor. to me it looks they just took a republic day mock land brahmos and glued it below the plane for airshow.
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I wont be surprised if its that longer , Air Launched Missile just has shorter booster rest remains the same. Even without the booster Brahmos is a big missile for any one who has seen it up close and personal. Probably other then MKI no other fighter in IAF fleet including MMRCA would be able to carry it. And they were planning for 3 of those to be carried on MKI :D
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The "near Inter continental Ballistic Missile" seems a bit like the other concepts "recessed deterrence" and "peaceful nuclear explosion".

I guess we are like that onlyeeee!
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IAI signs $1.1b arms deal with India

Dont know if this belongs under a different topic.. Admins please feel free to move it.
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Juggi G wrote:Big Daddy Warms Up for Target Thandavam, Agni-V
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Of course it is big daddy as of now, real daddy is coming. Work has started.
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looks like A5 will be equivalent of our TopolM - 1-3 warheads but +decoys and high speed and t:w ratio.

the K4 will be fatter and meatier, with a 'proper' MIRV capability.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 441464.cms
COIMBATORE: In a move aimed at facing external threats against the country with more sophisticated weapon, the BrahMos Aerospace, under the ministry of defense, will soon start to develop the fastest hypersonic missile in the world.

Talking to reporters on the sidelines of an international conference on Computer Communication and Informatics at Sree Sakthi Engineering College here on Tuesday, BrahMos CEO and managing director A Sivathanu Pillai said air version of BrahMos missile would be inducted into the Indian Air Force within one year and works for developing BrahMos 2, the fastest hypersonic missile in the world, would begin soon. BrahMos would take final shape in another five years, he added. While the BrahMos missile has the speed of Mach 3 (speed of sound) moving at one km per second, the hypersonic missile would achieve a speed of Mach 6 to Mach 7, he said.

"We have the guidelines and technology to make hypersonic missile. However, tests have to be conducted for configuring with the propulsion and for engine and flight tests, which would take at least five years," Pillai said. Once operational, BrahMos 2 would be the fastest missile in the world, he stressed. Having achieved the land and sea versions of BrahMos missile, the air version was in the final stage and after carrying out the critical test, it would be inducted into the Indian Air Force to be used in Sukhoi-30, the main strike aircraft. The missile would be a versatile system in the Defence Force, he said.

Pillai said since there was no equivalent to BrahMos, many countries were queuing up for the missile for use in multiple platforms in their force. However, there is a huge requirement for this missile in India and only after fulfilling our demand, the company will think of supplying to foreign countries, he added.

When asked about the raging controversy over commissioning of Kudankulam nuclear power project, Pillai said all safeguards have been taken during construction of the plant. "Experts like Dr A P J Abdul Kalam have studied all aspects about the power project. Dr Kalam had reviewed every possible aspect and came out with the report declaring its safety. Every possible safety safeguards have been taken care. There are around 12 such powers stations in operation around the world. Those power plants have been working without any problem. So, we can definitely assume that they are safe. Most of the fears expressed are imaginary," he opined.
Inducted within a year.. :eek: :D

Does anyone know as to how many missiles have been ordered by IA and IN :?:
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 451614.cms

US offers Stinger missiles to India as a part of 22 Apache deal. :!:
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Helina :D
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Yesterday saw a brand new Brahmos MAL (Mobile Autonomous Launcher) and MRV (Mobile Replenishment Vehicle).
Have pics but not sure it can shared on public forum.

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If it is somewhat like shown in this page
http://www.brahmos.com/content.php?id=16
....then you can definitely share it. :)
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KBDagha wrote:Yesterday saw a brand new Brahmos MAL (Mobile Autonomous Launcher) and MRV (Mobile Replenishment Vehicle).
Have pics but not sure it can shared on public forum.

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Well, if the pics were clicked in a public place or forum as against some restricted ceremony, then, please go ahead.
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the MRV is unknown here. so looking fwd to it.
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Hi,
I have updated some pics of MAL:
http://khambat-dagha.blogspot.com/2012/ ... s-mal.html

MRV pics are not clear. But it is based upon BEML-Tatra 10X10.

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KBDagha wrote:Hi,
I have updated some pics of MAL:
http://khambat-dagha.blogspot.com/2012/ ... s-mal.html

MRV pics are not clear. But it is based upon BEML-Tatra 10X10.

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thanks
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http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i= ... =AIR&s=TOP
India Casts Wider Net for Short-Range Missiles
NEW DELHI - The Indian Army has entered the global market to buy short-range surface-to-air missile (SRSAM) systems for $1.5 billion, a move that could further undercut a four-year effort to develop a system with MBDA of France.
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^^ Huh, Wasnt the SRSAM a done deal with DRDO-MBDA JV?
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