Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 2012

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 12 Feb 2012 18:59

Arun Roperia wrote:Afghan forces allegedly cross into Balochistan

Where is TSPA whose chain of command was suspended by General Ass-phuck Kiya-nahi in case there is another Salala type incident?

There is nothing stopping special forces teams of Afghans to cross into Pakistan posing as Taliban themselves and based on HUMINT to abduct or kill Taliban soldiers. One can understand that American soldiers would not go in into Pakistan, but there is no commitment stopping the Afghans from doing so!

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 12 Feb 2012 19:21

Tamang wrote: What is a puny nuclear submarine when they can place a man on moon in five year.

Why not? It is not that far fetched..tallel will send a man to moon and ask him to deposit his inner Pakistaniyat there for posterity..

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 12 Feb 2012 19:35

Jhujar wrote:Holy prophet never declared himself above the law: CJ

Could not help laughing when I read this...

Arabs, who were previously fighting with each other, became the founders of a unique civilization unparalleled in human history

. A call which keeps the atmosphere vibrating all the time.”

perhaps true..only not the way this jehadi terrorist pakbaric 'judge' meant it..

The CJ said his greatest gift to mankind was his personal example

again very true..many Pakistanis are today living by that example..

With his own hands he smashed ancient idols and established a religion dedicated to one God

perhaps Romila Thapar & Co will read this..

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Feb 2012 19:39

Transcript of Feb 6 IMF conference call on Pakistan
http://www.imf.org/external/np/tr/2012/tr020612.htm

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Feb 2012 19:59

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/cat/lo ... sk=25714.0
Feb 7 2012
Pakistan: Staff Report for the 2011 Article IV Consultation and Proposal for Post-Program Monitoring.

Leads to a link with a 1.6MB PDF file.

In Table 3a, General Government budget, there are three columns for 2011/12 data, titled Authorities, Staff Baseline and Staff Reform.

In Revenues and grants, the Authorities = 2878, Staff Baseline 2663 (billions of rupees)
This is the 215 billion discrepancy in revenues.

In Expenditure, the Authorities = 3753, Staff Baseline = 4070, this is the 317 billion discrepancy in expenditures.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Feb 2012 21:03

Anujan wrote:Was seeing youtube clip of Paki headlines about the pious brigadier, when I chanced upon this priceless clip. Start watching at 1:00 onwards. Paki society is armed to the teeth!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... vHUxt-mU#!

Watch IK's hand gestures.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Feb 2012 21:24

Tamang wrote:
ArmenT wrote:Pak Navy to build nuclear submarine
What is a puny nuclear submarine when they can place a man on moon in five year.

Zaid Mahdi Hamid (pbuh) said nothng wrong or out of the ordinary, for most pakis believe that if allah wishes (the catch all phrase - Inshallah) all will be hunky-dory. Every thing the pakis say or do starts with that phrase. Even their aircrafts take off with that hope. By logic, if that aircraft takes off successfully, for the pakis it means that there is a glimmer of hope that allah loves the pakis. Ever watch the pakis pray during a cricket match? But the reality is that allah does not insha for pa'astan. He has better things to do. Zaidji has been carefully couching his predictions with that caveat. However, if things don't turn out as predicted, which red bloodied paki has the gumption to criticize allah?

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 12 Feb 2012 21:26

anupmisra wrote:Watch IK's hand gestures.

Any idea what those gestures mean?

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 12 Feb 2012 21:51

TV bomb kills seven in Peshawar: police
http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/12/tv-bomb- ... olice.html

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 12 Feb 2012 21:54

Accused brigadier’s father urges govt to release him
http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/12/accused- ... e-him.html

...The letter said that Brig Khan was perturbed over the May 2 attack in Abbottabad and during a meeting at the General Head Quarters (GHQ) raised serious questions over the incident.

He also suggested during the meeting that all senior officers of the army should return plots and agricultural lands, it added.

The letter claimed that he was arrested after the meeting and kept in solitary confinement...

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 12 Feb 2012 22:44

^^^ if I am not mistaken, the Yahudis interpret that gesture as A-hole! Maybe the Goldsmith effect on the iMoron Khan.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 12 Feb 2012 22:54

Suppiah wrote:
Jhujar wrote:Holy prophet never declared himself above the law: CJ

. A call which keeps the atmosphere vibrating all the time.”

Is that the Paki version of the butterfly theory? An explanation for all those explosions, vacuum bulb blasts and people falling on sun roof levers?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Feb 2012 23:58

RCase wrote:
. A call which keeps the atmosphere vibrating all the time.”
Is that the Paki version of the butterfly theory? An explanation for all those explosions, vacuum bulb blasts and people falling on sun roof levers?

Maybe the analog of this:
http://archive.tm.org/explore/vedic_hea ... ology.html
"Maharishi Vedic Vibration Technology".

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 13 Feb 2012 00:46

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/ ... n_paki.php

Siraj Haqqani, the operational commander of the al Qaeda-linked Haqqani Network, and a member of a Taliban alliance that spans the tribal Pakistan's areas and eastern Afghanistan, has ordered the Taliban to abide by its peace agreement with the Pakistani military and cease its attacks on the security forces. Siraj's statement confirms what the Pakistani government has denied: the Taliban and Pakistan have entered into a peace deal.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 13 Feb 2012 01:43

Seems Groper is almost reconciled to being removed from PM position by the Court which is scheduled to hear his case on Feb 13 (in a few hours). He has given an interview to this effect. Maybe they calculate that this "martyrdom" will bring them votes in the elections.

Meanwhile, turns out that not only Lahore High Court, but also the Lahore Bar Association is staffed by Jihadis

http://tribune.com.pk/story/335000/an-outrageous-ban/

Lahore Bar Association (LBA) — where lawyers following a campaign led by the Khatme Nabuwat Lawyers Forum — have banned the sale of drinks manufactured by the Shehzan Company from canteens at all subordinate courts on the basis that it is an Ahmadi concern.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Feb 2012 03:08

India means business in Pak

Starting Monday, an Indian business delegation led by Commerce and Industry Minister Anand Sharma will be taking part in a series of high-end events, including an “India Show”, in Pakistan amid expectations that the neighbouring country will make an announcement granting the much-awaited Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status to India.

The delegation comprises over 100 top names from India's corporate world. It includes Rajan Bharti Mittal, vice chairman and managing director, Bharti Enterprises; Sunil Kant Munjal, chairman, Hero Corporate Services; KK Modi, chairman, Modi Enterprises; Harsh Pati Singhania, managing director, JK Paper; Naresh Goyal, chairman, Jet Airways; Jyotsna Suri, chairperson and managing director, Bharat Hotels; Arun Nanda, chairman, Mahindra Holidays and Resorts, FICCI president RV Kanoria and CII president B. Muthuraman . Sharma will also be meeting top officials of Pakistan, including Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and Commerce Minister Makhdoom Amin Fahim.

Sharma reached Amritsar along with FICCI chief Kanoria and SAARC Chamber of Commerce and Industry president Vikramjit Singh Sahney. “I am going to Pakistan with the positive frame of mind. The focus would be on strengthening the trade ties,” he told reporters after paying obeisance at the Golden Temple. The minister would also inspect the integrated checkpost project at Wagah.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 13 Feb 2012 03:19

. “I am going to Pakistan with the positive frame of mind.

You should, otherwise you would end up using Isabgol and singing that Sanjay Kapoor song "aati nahin"

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 13 Feb 2012 04:06

Bangalore boy in soup for 'calling' Pak foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar

How this Bangalore boy got hold of Khar houri's number is a complete mystery as is the fact that Khar Houri let him abuse her on the phone for 15 minutes. To me it seems that ISI goons in India have the tech to clone SIM cards and use cloned cards to send cops on the wrong trail. They dont have to try hard because the the first finger of suspicion nowadays is pointed at khayali hindoo tellolists

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 13 Feb 2012 06:04

Jhujar wrote: It was 47 Chitter parade which brought them to Jameen from Jannat. ...

Never thought I'd hear these beautiful words on BRF.

Thanks, Jujhaar Ji, mainu thuaddey naal prem ho gaya hai ji.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 13 Feb 2012 06:59

In an ealier avatar I once posted a threat by a Pakistani ex-general that identified Delhi and Panjab as the two targets of the Islamic bomb.

Any one squirrel that reference away? I can't find it.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Feb 2012 07:14

Hobbling along.
http://www.economist.com/node/21547231? ... ilientmess

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Feb 2012 07:46

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2012_pg3_2
: Balochistan, Rohrabacher and Poaqustan’s complacency

Nonetheless, despite all the human rights politics in play on what Rohrabacher kept calling ‘Balookistan’, Pakistan should not let it go under the fog of the US’s “ill-advised move” to “intrude in our internal affairs”. Issues that came up during the hearing need serious self-evaluation if another 1971 is to be avoided. Putting everything down to ‘international conspiracies’ and the over-defined ‘enemies’ of Pakistan and adopting a sense of victimhood so popular among us would only damage our own selves. The ‘difa’ (defence) of sovereignty is in appraising ourselves and taking corrective measures, not in prompting civil disorder by instigative rallies in big urban centres.
When Ralph Peters, a military analyst, said in his testimony, “Pakistan is not an integrated state, but a miniature empire that inherited its dysfunctional and unjust boundaries from Britain’s greater, now-defunct empire,” it demanded serious introspection. Peters might have been a bit liberal in using the term ‘empire’, but it should still concern us for the way we have been conducting ourselves offers little material for defence. It might be hinting at the future course of US policy towards Pakistan when Peters said, “We must set aside our lazy Cold War era assumption that Pakistan is a necessary ally and recognise that the various insurgent movements challenging the Islamabad government are engaged in liberation struggles against an occupier.” Pakistan might have become a soiled diaper for the US, but this must not blind us to what we have been doing with Balochistan and to all the territories that acceded to Pakistan in 1947-8.
We can keep screaming about human rights abuses in Indian-administered Kashmir but it must not be used to camouflage our own atrocities in our own courtyard. That our citizens in Balochistan have been victims of most brutal subjugation, suppression, abuse, violence and rights violations at the hands of our own state is a fact that must shame us and activate us for immediate reaction. But the fact that the civil and political society in Pakistan are suffering from a general ignorance about and insensitivity towards Balochistan’s plight is something extremely disturbing.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Feb 2012 07:50

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/when- ... f-the.html
When British India was partitioned in 1947 Hindus and Sikhs constituted about twenty percent of the population in what is now Pakistan. Now it is barely one percent."

While India is constantly berated for having severe problems with an amorphous communalism, Pakistan is rarely brought to task over this same standard." "Cleansing Hindus From Pakistan," by Rabir Singh for Conservative Papers, February 12:
In his 1993 BBC television series Akbar S Ahmed, former ambassador from Pakistan to Britain and presently Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at the American University in Washington DC, stated that Jinnah had created Pakistan so that India's Muslims could be "safe from Hindu reaction". But he has remained largely silent on the Hindus of Pakistan who have been the victims of Islamic 'reaction', aside from a few meaningless platitudes towards communal harmony. In this he is far from alone.
When British India was partitioned in 1947 Hindus and Sikhs constituted about twenty percent of the population in what is now Pakistan. Now it is barely one percent. This is a demographic catastrophe which has hardly warranted attention in the media, or from human rights groups and other NGOs. While India is constantly berated for having severe problems with an amorphous communalism, Pakistan is rarely brought to task over this same standard. In one way however Pakistan can be said to have resolved the communal issue; by simply having negligible numbers of minorities to strive for equal rights.
The constitution and legal system created for Pakistan openly discriminated against Hindus with a high level of crime and harassment against them. This was exacerbated by periods of tension between India and Pakistan which were always the worst times for Hindus in Pakistan, with large numbers killed and expelled by pogroms by the majority community who were supported by their government. In 1965 The Enemy Property Act was passed, which openly legitimized the confiscation of the property of Hindus whether it was their homes or temples that were destroyed and helped to further reduce the Hindu population in Pakistan.

Pakistan's imperial masters in Riyadh presently expanding their colonial interests using their Salafi minions in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Syria, western democracies should be very worried. Otherwise they will face a 'Hindu' future. As Pastor Martin Neimoller warned regarding his incarceration by the Nazis:

They came for the Communists, and I didn't object -- For I wasn't a Communist;
They came for the Socialists, and I didn't object -- For I wasn't a Socialist;
They came for the labour leaders, and I didn't object -- For I wasn't a labour leader;
They came for the Jews, and I didn't object -- For I wasn't a Jew;
Then they came for me - And there was no one left to object.

So who will there be to object when 'they' come after the western democracies and there are no Hindus left?
This was dwarfed by the war of secession which resulted in the creation of Bangladesh. A huge undocumented number of Hindus were massacred by the Pakistani army in which the estimated death toll was probably three million.At independence India chose a secular constitution. Admittedly, along with its parliamentary democracy, has met with varying degrees of success. But it has endured. India has had heads of state which come from minority communities and minorities are active in many spheres notably government service, cinema, music, academia, the media and sport. Pakistan however chose a stridently theocratic form of government right from its inception, in which anyone not adhering to the majority faith and the being part of the majority community was always going to be suspect. By stating that the head of state had to be Muslim that built uncompromising discrimination into the constitution itself.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Feb 2012 08:11

A_Gupta wrote:http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/cat/lo ... sk=25714.0
Feb 7 2012
Pakistan: Staff Report for the 2011 Article IV Consultation and Proposal for Post-Program Monitoring.

Leads to a link with a 1.6MB PDF file.

In Table 3a, General Government budget, there are three columns for 2011/12 data, titled Authorities, Staff Baseline and Staff Reform.

In Revenues and grants, the Authorities = 2878, Staff Baseline 2663 (billions of rupees)
This is the 215 billion discrepancy in revenues.

In Expenditure, the Authorities = 3753, Staff Baseline = 4070, this is the 317 billion discrepancy in expenditures.

I can't understand most of the stuff - but almost everything is phrased in familiar words that I have read about Pakistan for years and years. I could understand this, for instance

roughly 3⁄4 of Pakistan’s remittances come from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the United States, and the United Kingdom,

Your earlier link speaks of "Loss making PSUs" of Pakistan. The two biggest loss making PSUs seem to be Pakistan Railways and Pakistan Steel.

Pakistan is chugging along despite government. To some extent this could be said of India too with the implication being that small changes in government policy can make huge differences to the economy.

When I read this stuff repeatedly year after year after year it seems to me that I am missing something. There is some kind of disconnect between these policy prescriptions and the ability of "government" in Pakistan to get away with less than the policy prescription. Every year for many years - perhaps more than a decade I find that Pakistan has been doing the same stuff and having the same IMF/World Bank advice delivered to it, but Pakistan simply does not respond or responds with half measures or temporary measures.

What this seems to tell me is that either these prescriptions are not really necessary, or they are prescriptions that are trying to make a "developed country" out of Pakistan. If Pakistan does not follow these prescriptions the consequences are stated as "negatives" - like "poor outlook", "slow growth" etc. There is no bomb or collapse as such. The only "bomb" that I can detect is a demographic bomb of poverty, illiteracy and unemployment.

If I was a scheming Pakistani I would not waste money on development. Having poor people is a blessing. They serve as cannot fodder for jihad. they work for free if they are given something to eat. They can be exported to foreign countries and their meager earnings repatriated home can only help. Zia ul Haq knew the value of Paki human bodies in teh service of anti-communist jihad in Afghanistan. Stuff like "Infant mortality", "illiteracy" etc matter only as long as you seek to actually bring some benefit to a vast mass of people. If that is not your aim, you don't need to do much.

In this connection. I have had some radical/un-PC thoughts - you might have been exposed to some of them. You see, human societies (at least Western societies) have moved from believing in racial inequality to racial equality and in fact absence of "race". Nothing wrong in this per se. Humans are one species genetically.

But if you look at any human society that has evolved over millennia you will find that this human society inevitably has some people who are menial workers, or workers who are unable or unwilling to work beyond a point that is barely necessary to keep themselves alive. There are others who are exceptional in innovation and thinking who rise to leadership in various sphere be it in governance, rats or even crime. A vast mass of people exist between these two "extremes". If you take all these people and measure their intelligence, you will get results that depend on what your intelligence measurement metric is. It you define intelligence as that which makes a doctor, engineer, lawyer, economist and not unskilled laborer, then your results will be skewed one way. If your metric seeks to define intelligence as what is required for the laborer, or "unskilled" task performer your results get skewed another way.

So where is this argument going? It's like this:

If you try and "develop" a society for uniform literacy, intelligence and productivity, you find that you have to address basic concerns like female literacy, birth spacing and nutrition. But this literate, intelligent society of children brought up in this way need to be usefully employed. if you cannot provide them employment that matches their ability you are left with angry educated people. Their skills/intelligence has been honed for engineer level job, but they are not even getting taxi driver job.

One way of avoiding this conundrum is to not interfere with populations. Let them have high death rates and low nutrition. Some will randomly have the intelligence to meet engineer/lawyer standards. Some will remain unskilled, unpaid workers. By playing with society to give every child the opportunity to become super-smart, you are removing the opportunity for people to remain unsmart and serve the unskilled (slave/serf) role in society. I am expressing radical, elitist, even racist concepts but there is nothing original that has not been tried before. Many religions thrive on the "acceptance" of misery and death as God's will and uniform, human powered "development" like birth spacing required for uniform development are contrary to God's will.

Pakistan certainly seems to be headed that way, and I wonder, why not let is continue on that path? A mass of Pakistanis will be good laborers, cheap workers even slaves. Every country should benefit from this human cattle population. But the arms supply benefits only the US. The US is using Pakistani slave labor as soldiers to fight their wars. Those same soldier slaves are useful to Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. Remove their arms and those underdeveloped massed Pakis will make good ~~slaves~~ er low wage workers? No?

SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 13 Feb 2012 08:13

Necklace theft: Geo News receives CCTV video

LAHORE: 'Geo News' has received the CCTV video of diamond necklace stealing from the exhibition of Indian products at the Expo Centre.

The video shows the owner of the stall running after a thief who has stolen the diamond necklace. The thief managed to flee.

The police have registered a case against unidentified thieves for stealing a diamond set worth Rs0.5m from the exhibition.

Police said a case has been registered on the complaint of Kamal Khan on Sunday night.

Sources said that an exhibition of Indian products was in progress at the Expo Centre located in Johar Town on its second day when before the closure of exhibition, a woman fainted while visiting a counter of jewellery.

The unconscious woman attracted the attention of administration and security officials which led to an incident of theft of diamond set worth about Rs500,000.[/googlevideo]

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-35086 ... CTV-video-

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 13 Feb 2012 08:21

serves them right.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Feb 2012 08:28

A_Gupta wrote:Hobbling along.
http://www.economist.com/node/21547231? ... ilientmess

Stephen Cohen, a well-respected observer of Pakistani politics at the Brookings Institution, sets the tone by observing how Pakistanis lack even a shared idea of their nation.

Well isn't "weak sense of nationalism" India's problem as well? Of course as you guys can expect there is pisko agenda in this question. Opine with care

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 13 Feb 2012 09:36

Shiv, I suggest you don repeatedly bring in India into the Paki thread. Its not good forum etiquette. I see tww times in this page itself. Pisking can be done without that.

Thanks,

ramana

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Feb 2012 09:51

ramana wrote:Shiv, I suggest you don repeatedly bring in India into the Paki thread. Its not good forum etiquette. I see tww times in this page itself. Pisking can be done without that.

Thanks,

ramana

I hope that caution goes out to people who say that India's problems with Pakistan stem from India's many faults which must first be corrected. You see people who say that need to be called out and asked why they need to take it out selectively and sometimes in a grossly biased fashion against India and Indians in the name of great love for the nation.

To me this is especially galling to be told that as a response when aid to Pakistan from the usual sources is mentioned as a problem for India.

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 13 Feb 2012 10:23

Gilani ready to apply for canadian vija after court indicts him

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 13 Feb 2012 10:47

Pakistani Taliban decry attacks against military

PESHAWAR: Terrorists have called on fighters to honour an agreement not to attack the Pakistani military in the most important sanctuary for the Taliban and al Qaeda along the Afghan border.

Terrorists have long used North Waziristan as a base to strike US-led forces in Afghanistan. American officials have accused Pakistan of supporting some terrorists in the area, especially the feared Haqqani network – allegations Islamabad denies.

The operational chief of the Haqqani network, Sirajuddin Haqqani, is part of the five-member leadership council that distributed a pamphlet on Saturday ordering terrorists not to stage rocket or bomb attacks in North Waziristan.

“In North Waziristan, we are all in agreement with the Pakistani government, so we are all bound to honour this agreement and nobody is allowed to violate it,” the pamphlet said.

Anyone who violates the agreement “will [be] dealt with as a culprit”, it said. The military did not immediately respond to request for comment.

The military has targeted terrorist bases in other tribal areas along the border, and the pamphlet appeared to be an attempt by the terrorists to preserve North Waziristan as a sanctuary from such an offensive. There have been several rocket and bomb attacks against the military in North Waziristan since the council was formed in January.

Haqqani is the only Afghan terrorist on the council. The others are from Pakistan, including the most senior members of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Hakimullah Mehsud and Waliur Rehman, and two other prominent commanders, Hafiz Gul Bahadur and Maulvi Nazir.

The council was set up with the assistance of al Qaeda and the Afghan Taliban to work out differences among the Pakistan-based terrorists, who have long been split over where they should focus their fighting. TTP has concentrated on toppling the government in Islamabad, while the other terrorists on the council have almost exclusively directed their attacks against foreign forces in Afghanistan.

The army has launched a series of offensives against TTP in the northwest. But it has resisted US demands to launch an operation in North Waziristan, even though it has approximately 40,000 troops stationed there{ not 600,000 yet ?}.

Many Afghan Taliban terrorists are also believed to be based in Pakistan, especially in Balochistan. Analysts have speculated that the group’s chief, Mullah Omar, is based there . Pakistani authorities on Sunday accused Afghan forces of crossing into Balochistan and assassinating two men allegedly providing safe haven to terrorists fighting in Afghanistan.

The Afghans entered Pakistani territory on February 9 and abducted the two men from Thukha village, said the top administrative official in Balochistan, Naseebullah Bazai. Local residents reported that the Afghans took the two across the border and then killed them, he said.

A Pakistani government official has gone to Afghanistan with tribal elders to retrieve the bodies, said Bazai, adding that Pakistan had also registered a protest with Afghan authorities. Afghanistan’s Foreign Ministry said it was investigating the allegations.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 13 Feb 2012 11:10

Paki turned out to be a two party system both colluding against their 'subjects'

[*]Khaki vardi party or Defence party
[*]Kali vardi party or Judiciary Party

Civvies seem to be the subjects

Actual defence and external relations are managed by Jihadis
Counterfeting goes for their monetary policy
Dekho-no-money for their economy
Grass for eating

Actual junta can go to hell

Pakistan is NOT a failed state at all.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Feb 2012 11:16

Vasleen Deployed,Visa Stamp on stand by
PM Gilani in court to face contempt charge
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s prime minister has arrived at the Supreme Court for a hearing in which judges say he will be charged with contempt.Helicopters buzzed over the capital and roads were blocked to traffic Monday as Yousuf Raza Gilani drove himself and his lawyer to the court.udges are set to charge Gilani with contempt for defying their orders to reopen an old corruption case against his political ally, President Asif Ali Zardari.The case is fueling political tensions in the country, which is battling Islamist violence and dire economic straits.
If convicted, Gilani faces imprisonment and would likely lose his job.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Feb 2012 11:21

yeh tumne kya kiya, abhi chorr ke jayiyo naa

lo Hum Challe chorr kar !!
“

You will see a new Meera emerge from this mess,” she said two years ago (Images on Sunday, Jan 24, 2010) when interviewed while dealing with the messy situation of a ‘fake’ marriage and its associated press.
After taking a two-year break from films, a new and reformed Meera is back with aggression as her weapon and defensiveness as her tool.Today’s Meera appears a lot more composed and in control than vulnerable and it’s with authority that she dictates the headline, “My relationship with this film industry is over.”“It took me time to realise what people around me are like but I’ve done a lot of growing up in the past two years,” she spoke exclusively to Images on Sunday while stopping over in Karachi between Dhaka and Lahore. She’s spent the better part of these two years in America.“I emotionally, mentally and physically live in another world. It’s the world of cinema. I romance characters and live in character. I now realise that that is not real life. I have come out of that bubble and I don’t want to work in this industry anymore,” she concludes with a dramatic air of finality.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 13 Feb 2012 11:24

There was another Diffa-e-Pukistan Council in Karachi over the weekend

DPC announces resistance against reopening of NATO supplies; presents 10-point agenda for change in country

Among other tidbits..I found this interesting (or perhaps mis-reporting):

Maulana Samiul Haq said that we have to save the nation from sectarian and linguistic differences, adding that the relations with india could not be established until the solution of the Kashmir and other disputes with India peacefully .

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 13 Feb 2012 12:02

From Such Gup in TFT

A TV camera crew went on a mission to unearth extremist madrassahs in Southern Punjab and alighted on one such in Bahawalpur district. They began their interviews and were in the midst of filming when they were stopped by Kalashnikov wielding men. Their equipment was snatched, they were roughed up and confined to a room of the madrassah. One of the crew managed to escape and alerted the channel's head honcho. After hectic negotiations by go-betweens, the crew was released but their equipment was not returned. They were then marched off to a senior khaki's office in Bahawalpur where their equipment was returned to them, but not before they had had an earful about their "irresponsibility" and neglect of their "patriotic duty" to protect the "assets of the nation". They were let off with a warning.

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 13 Feb 2012 12:26

Gilani Indicted

Pakistan’s prime minister was indicted for contempt by the country’s highest court on Monday, pleading not guilty to charges that could see him jailed for six months and disqualified from office.

The court ordered the attorney general to prosecute the case, giving him until Thursday and the defence until February 27 to file documents, which will then be recorded on February 28. After that, a date will be set for trial.

amit · Post by **amit** » 13 Feb 2012 13:02

shiv wrote:Pakistan certainly seems to be headed that way, and I wonder, why not let is continue on that path? A mass of Pakistanis will be good laborers, cheap workers even slaves. Every country should benefit from this human cattle population. But the arms supply benefits only the US. The US is using Pakistani slave labor as soldiers to fight their wars. Those same soldier slaves are useful to Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. Remove their arms and those underdeveloped massed Pakis will make good ~~slaves~~ er low wage workers? No?

I think Hakim saab's paragraph above should be read with a para from the Economist article which Gupta ji quoted in his last post:

The country is threatened by various long-term trends. Of Pakistan’s 185m people, two-thirds are younger than 30 years old. Only the population of Yemen—hardly a model of stability—is more youthful. One poll taken among such youngsters and cited in the book suggests that three-quarters might emigrate if given the chance. Also many of the young hold extreme religious views, unleashed by the zealous regime of Zia ul Haq in the 1980s.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 13 Feb 2012 13:30

Mahendra wrote:Bangalore boy in soup for 'calling' Pak foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar

How this Bangalore boy got hold of Khar houri's number is a complete mystery as is the fact that Khar Houri let him abuse her on the phone for 15 minutes. To me it seems that ISI goons in India have the tech to clone SIM cards and use cloned cards to send cops on the wrong trail. They dont have to try hard because the the first finger of suspicion nowadays is pointed at khayali hindoo tellolists

They will not bother about murder of thousands of Indians and we need to investigate some filthy language?

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 13 Feb 2012 15:33

Mr. Amrullah Saleh's opinion piece in The WSJ

Why Negotiate With the Taliban?:

Yamriki fauj is surrendering calling it 'political reconciliation' and I see trouble for India if Pak-jabis have their way.