Internal Security Watch

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 16 Feb 2012 00:08

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/15 ... dia-blast/

Thai investigators believe they have found a link between this week’s bomb blasts in Bangkok and New Delhi, a senior security official said Wednesday, two of three attacks Israel has blamed on Iran, and which Iran has in turn blamed on Israel.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 16 Feb 2012 00:22

Israel told visiting Kamal Nath it was Iran.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 16 Feb 2012 00:44

Kasargod is a gone case, there is no turning back. the demographic battle has been lost. I'm told by a friend of mine who hails from Kasargod that a few rich Hindu families are holding on by refusing to sell their land to Muslims despite being offered thrice to four times the actual prices.
95% of private schools sanctioned are to muslim minority educational groups. Cops are under massive political pressure not to arrest muslim rioters, miscreants and sharia enforcing vigilante mobs. There are strategic choke points on the Kasargod to Mangalore highway that gets blocked every now and then because sombody and his uncle is nursing some grudge. The place is full of cash rich high on GeeeHaad low on IQ unemployed youth with motorbikes

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 16 Feb 2012 00:50

^^ That sort of enclave is created because the Seths dictate the politics of the area. That's because they know they control the following troika:

1. Narcotics production and distribution (illegal).
2. Connections with oil wealth power centers (legal).
3. The minds of their faithfools, esp the youth.

Sufi Habibi Sayyeds from Yemen and ulema from Egypt are regular invitees to the area and are feted with huge turnouts.

Somehow or the other, at least one of the above 3 factors has to be broken up. Otherwise it will irretrievably eat into the region and the nation.

Bade · Post by **Bade** » 16 Feb 2012 01:09

Keep in mind that Kasargode and M'lore muslims are related. Essentially the same stock. They stand out from other Kerala muslims and do not inter marry as far as I know. The M'lore muslims also speak a dialect of malayalam, but it is predominantly Tulu or Kannada the local lingo since they have lived there for long doing business. They used to control the timber trade as well as small trade ships out of the old port. All this seen from eyes of childhood days. So take it for what it is worth. They were the pioneer gulf wallahs and quite rich in relative terms (smuggling activities being quite common eg. H Mastaan), even before the rest of the state woke up to it. So not a surprise that it has all turned out for the worse with time.

But so were the X'tians from M'lore with at least some family in gulf or the states, yet a very different outlook.

svenkat, the commonality and connections is why I said re-drawing the boundaries will do little good. Besides tulu konkan speakers are residents all over Kerala, even if in small communities.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 16 Feb 2012 01:18

Some links about Kasarghad w.r.t. recent incidents
Wednesday, February 01, 2012 Kasargod: Counterfeit Currency - Ten Accused Face Charges of Treason

Thursday, February 09, 2012 Kasargod: Procession in Soldiers’ Uniform – DGP Orders High Level Probe

Thursday, February 09, 2012 Kasargod: Outbreak of Violence - Police Resort to Caning

Feb 07, 2012 Moral Police stalking girls in Kasargod

Some visuals of riots Yutyube link: link

20 Jan '12 ‘Kerala Religious Police” brutally attacked Hindu youth

three accused stopped him and asked his name and address. After that they forcefully taken him to Chettumkuzhi in their bike and started beating him. They were questioning him as to why he talked to a girl from another religion. From Chettumkuzhi, he was transferred to a car and taken to Oliathadukka and was beaten up on the way also.

12/02/201 Temple desecerated by dead cow skull ; Tension grips Kasargod - Media blacks it out again

On Saturday morning it came to light that Jihadis had desecrated Shree Durga Parameshwari Kshethra in Meepuguri. A hartal was observed in Madhur panchayat limit. Voluntary bandh is being observed in many parts of the district, and bus service has also been affected as a result.

Skull of a cow was placed by Jihadis on top of the Temple lamp, which triggered widespread protest by Hindus in the area. So far 6 youth have been stabbed and got assaulted in the clashes.hey have been identified as Ajmal (16), Asim (15), Harshad (15), Babu, Rahul (29), and Sharath (29). Among them Babu is said to be critical and has been admitted to a hospital in Mangalore.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 02:09

ramana wrote:More curious news about the bombing.

...
Was the red motorcyclist a red herring?

Hindustan Times reports:

Police chase red herrings....

Police chase red herrings in Israeli embassy car bomb case

Two days after a motorcyclist attacked an Israeli embassy staffer’s car with a sticky bomb, the Delhi Police have no leads on his identity. The probe hit a roadblock after the police gave a clean chit to a motorcyclist who was captured tailing the targeted Toyota Innova by a CCTV camera.

The biker, who turned out to be a courier delivery man, himself approached investigators to claim his innocence. He was let off after questioning. A CCTV camera at a senior judge’s house on Aurangzeb Road caught hazy footage of the biker with a backpack tailing the Innova.
Two abandoned red motorcycles found in south Delhi’s Lado Sarai area and Connaught Place had the police rushing about. While the unattended motorcycle in CP was found to be stolen, investigators said the one in Lado Sarai might have been used by the attacker as its owner is unknown.

Teams of the Delhi Police special cell are conducting search operations at hotels and guest houses in central and south Delhi to check if any tourist from a West Asian country checked in during the past month. Investigators have also started collecting details of Iranians living in the Capital.

With no clues in the case, investigators from the special cell, in coordination with sleuths from Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, recreated the scene at the same spot on Wednesday.

Later, a 10-member Mossad team visited the special cell’s Lodhi Colony office and sought a progress report. They shared preliminary investigation details from a similar attack on Tuesday in Bangkok. The team also inspected the Innova that was damaged in the explosion.

A senior police officer said a preliminary forensic examination of the blast material showed traces of potassium chlorate and nitroglycerine. The explosives were estimated to weigh less than 300 grams.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 02:13

So the device is a bootpolish tin sized IED. The chemicals will give a blast. The fire must be from the aerosol can, probably an air freshener.

Still no definite leads on the red motor cycle. One gap in Indian records is that when owners sell their vehicles they dont register the sale. Is this normal or illegal?

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 16 Feb 2012 02:17

ramana wrote:So the device is a bootpolish tin sized IED. The chemicals will give a blast. The fire must be from the aerosol can, probably an air freshener.

Still no definite leads on the red motor cycle. One gap in Indian records is that when owners sell their vehicles they dont register the sale. Is this normal or illegal?

A very large percentage do register the sale. Otherwise insurance doesnt get transferred.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 02:19

Hindustan Times blog

Spy vs Spy in New Delhi

The mysterious blast, which left four persons injured including an Israeli diplomat Talyeshova Koren in New Delhi on Monday, has raised several questions in the absence of any concrete evidence to suggest a clear motive behind the incident so far.
What is very strange is that even before the investigations had started, the Israelis started accusing Iran of plotting attacks on its diplomats in different parts of the world. To drive home their point, they cited the example of an attack in Tbilisi and yesterday also made a similar accusation about the Iranian involvement in three blasts in Bangkok. Was it also a sheer coincidence that a top official of the anti terrorist wing of Israel happened to be in the capital on that day and a week earlier a top Mossad official had visited New Delhi?

I am not saying that Israeli charge about the possible involvement of Iranians is far fetched and a part of a larger conspiracy or plan to create grounds for a joint attack by Israeli and NATO forces on Tehran. What I am saying is that let us not jump to any conclusions till our own investigators establish it beyond doubt that Iran was indeed involved in the dastardly incident. Union Home Secretary has already stated that New Delhi does not have any evidence to name any country and it would be premature to take anyone’s name so soon. Neither have authorities in Tbilisi and Bangkok been forthright in establishing links between the incidents in their own countries and the one in India. It is only the Israelis who are insisting on the connection.

Without trying to minimize the gravity of the attack on the Israeli diplomat in New Delhi, I somehow feel that why would a terrorist, Iranian or otherwise use an incendiary device closer to a firecracker than a proper bomb to carry out such an attempt. The `sticky bomb’ as this device is being referred to should have had shrapnel and more destructive elements if it was meant to seriously achieve its objective of hurting or killing any Israeli diplomat. The attack was similar to the kind of incidents which often get reported in the media about an explosive device going off in a bus or a public transport without killing anyone. Many a times these incidents get traced to some Intelligence agency or the other which carries out the attack as part of an exercise to check preparedness by other agencies.

I am also not suggesting that there are no evil elements in Iran and that country has only angels living there. Iran is capable of retaliating or carrying out any action in the interest of their country but given that it has good relations with New Delhi would it still do so on the Indian soil.

Israel and Iran are both strategic partners of India. Israel in defence deals and Iran in gas and oil deals. Both are valuable. It will need a lot of evidence to prove that Iran will carry out an attack on Israel on the Indian soil. If it has indeed done so and our own agencies prove this conclusively, New Delhi should have no difficulty in expelling Iranian officials from here. But in the absence of such direct proof, the Israeli word is not enough. I have great respect for the Israelis and their struggle but they should leave the investigations to the Indians and allow them to draw their own conclusions. A hasty step here could jeopardize relations between friends and this is unnecessary till solid evidence establishes such a link

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 02:50

Pioneer reports more details;

LINK

Forensic experts at the Central Forensic Sciences Laboratory (CFSL) have identified the substances used in making the ‘sticky bomb’, which had targeted an Israeli woman diplomat on Monday afternoon. Preliminary investigations found traces of potassium chlorate and nitroglycerin.

This was the reason for the car instantly going up in flames. It has been now revealed that around 300 gm of explosives could have been used in the blast.

The CFSL reports about the composition of the bomb have been submitted to the Ministry of Home Affairs and the Delhi Police Special Cell. Terrorism experts were analysing the report to identify the people behind the incident.

In a significant development, an Israeli forensic team on Wednesday reached the national Capital to assist the probe.

Meanwhile, bombs discovered in a Bangkok house after a series of blasts in the capital of Thailand were also found to be similar to those used in attacks in New Delhi and Tbilisi of Georgia. “While the target of the bombs was not clear, we can assume from the other experiences that we were the target. They are similar to the ones used in Delhi and Tblisi. From that we can assume that there is the same network of terror,” Israeli Ambassador to the Thai capital Itzhak Shoham told media on Wednesday.

Investigators now say that the operative who threw the sticky bomb at the car of the Israeli diplomat missed the target by planting the bomb on the right side of the boot. Had it stuck on the left side of the car, it would have not only engulfed the fuel tank but the engine of the car too could have been destroyed.

The palm-sized “sticky bomb”, when thrown, sticks to the first solid block it touches without rolling or falling. It appears that the diplomat had tried to get out of the car after she noticed something being stuck behind the car. This was manifested by the nature of the injuries that Tal Yehoshua-Koren (40), received. She was injured by the damaged pieces of the car. She had sustained injuries in her lung and liver and the spine and the injuries were caused by the shrapnel that flew after the bomb exploded.

Sources in the investigating agencies said that they were not in a position to say whether Iran could be blamed for the Monday attack. The probe was veering towards Iranian, Lebanese and Palestinian students who were enrolled in various universities and colleges in the Capital and its suburbs. They said that it appears unlikely Monday’s attack was actually carried out by the Hezbollah or by Iran’s Special Forces. Instead, they believe, locals belonging to a collaborator network might have set off the bomb. It may have taken the bike-borne assailants only a few seconds to attach it to the diplomat’s car.

Officials of the Israeli Embassy have also given leads about two Lebanese students who are suspected in this attack. Both the students are reportedly missing from their places. The Delhi Police is scanning their call details to identify the persons with whom they were in touch and also their movements during last few days.

Sources said that Special Cell officers have scanned the CCTV footage umpteen times to identify the person who was astride on the red-coloured bike. A Special Cell team on Wednesday recreated the sequence of events leading to the bombing of the car. Officials said that the spot was revisited to ascertain the exact time that the biker could have taken to catch the Innova car of the Israeli Embassy.

Meanwhile, a nine-member team from Israel embassy also inspected the cars that were damaged in the Monday’s explosion. The team visited the Special Cell office at Lodhi Colony and inspected the Innova car in which the diplomat was travelling. The Delhi Police is coordinating with Israeli investigators through their Embassy at New Delhi. Sources said they were also looking into the attack on an Iranian nuclear scientist on January 12 in Tehran, in which he was attacked in a similar fashion. In both cases, a motorcyclist stuck a bomb on the vehicle they were using.

Recovery of an abandoned red Bajaj Pulsar bike on Thursday kept the officers investigating Monday’s car blast on their toes, though it remained inconclusive if it was the same bike used in the blast.

The bike was recovered from south Delhi’s Lado Sarai area in the wee hours of Wednesday. Rumours grew thick that this was the same bike that was used by the terrorist who blew the car of an Israeli diplomat on Monday. Experts from the Central Forensic Science Laboratory (CFSL) took samples of fingerprints from the bike which, police claimed, has been sold four times so far to different hands. Police is, however, tight-lipped about the bike and said it is one of the six abandoned bikes that have been recovered since Monday blast.

The recovered bike is an old model of Bajaj Pulsar bike (150 cc DTS). It bears a triangular number plate bearing registration number - DL 7S T 8352. Preliminary inquiry has revealed that it was bought by one Rajiv Maggu, a resident of Satya Niketan. Rajiv had sold the bike to another person in 2006. Thereafter, the bike was sold to two different persons who are yet to be traced. The fourth person is suspected to be a resident of Gurgaon and efforts are being made to trace his whereabouts, a senior police official said.

“A patrolling team spotted the bike around 2.30 am on the side of a road connecting the Mehrauli-Badarpur Road and Aurobindo Marg. It was found lying opposite to a DDA Children Park at Lado Sarai in Saket police station area. As the bike was damaged, the team thought that an accident might have taken place. But police found no eyewitness to any such accident in the intervening night of Tuesday and Wednesday,” the official said.

The bike was lying in a damaged condition. Its petrol tank was distorted, brakes and headlight were broken and there was no speedometer in the bike. Both the mudguards were also missing over the tyres. Its silencer was also found broken into two pieces. Strangely, some of the parts of the bike were found to be new, including the shockers, and its machine appeared to be newly painted in black colour.

Dharmendra Kumar, Special Commissioner of Police, (Law and Order), said, “Soon after the blast on Monday, a high alert was sounded in the city and checking at strategic locations were intensified. All police districts were issued an order to initiate extensive searches for abandoned bikes. Around five-six bikes have been found from different parts of the city since then. A damaged red Pulsar bike has also been found in south Delhi on Wednesday. Samples of finger prints have been collected and further investigation is underway.” Later in the day, police also claimed to have recovered another red motorcycle in Connaught Place. It was found lying without any claimant. It was later discovered to be a stolen bike.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 02:56

We don't have details of the device in Georgia but the one in Bangkok was more lethal and injured the perpetrator. Yet they are stated to be similar.

Need to understand the KClO4 and Nitro combination. The latter doesn't need any oxidisers.
So why was the first one added?

Its clear that a device was attached and noticed by the car occupant who tried to get out and got injured by the car parts.
Why did the car catch fire?

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 16 Feb 2012 03:00

Have the Bangkok perps been attested as Iranian government agents? Or just ethnic Iranians? Reason I ask is that there are militant anti-regime Iranian factions working with the US/Israel, such as MeK.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 03:21

Carl:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/ ... C020120215

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 16 Feb 2012 03:46

^ Ramana ji, it says he had an Irani passport. But that's not conclusive yet. Let's wait for the guy to regain consciousness and be interrogated by the Thais. Hopefully our agencies will send someone down to join the interrogation too.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 04:10

TOI reports:

Israel's Mossad did not anticipate Delhi terror strike

Josy Joseph & Vishwa Mohan
, TNN | Feb 16, 2012, 03.00AM IST

The “limpet bomb” attack on the wife of the Israeli defence attache on Monday appears to have come as a surprise to Mossad, Israel’s external security agency.

NEW DELHI: The "limpet bomb" attack on the wife of the Israeli defence attache on Monday, seemingly as a retaliation against assassinations of Iranian scientists, appears to have come as a surprise to Mossad, Israel's external security agency.

Sources said a high-level team which discussed the threat of revenge strikes against Israeli targets did not anticipate that Iran's alleged sympathizers could strike in India's capital.

Although the Israeli embassy here took the precaution of alerting Delhi Police to what they called the looming threat of revenge attacks, Mossad officials who last week interacted with their Delhi counterparts did not apprehend that Iran's alleged proxies could strike in India.

The team led by Mossad chief Tamir Pardo, a veteran of the dramatic Entebbe operation where Israeli commandos managed to free their nationals held hostage by terrorists, felt that Israeli citizens were safer in India than their compatriots in Turkey, countries in East Asia and South America. The assessment could have been influenced by the absence so far of a group which could resort to terrorism allegedly at Iran's behest.

While the attack has come as a rude shock to Indian and Israeli agencies, intelligence agencies are fearing that use of magnet or limpet bomb may cease to be an aberration in South Asia. According to senior intelligence sources, National Technical Research Organization -- the agency that helps the security establishment with techint - had intercepted a conversation about Pakistan-based terrorists arming themselves with magnetic bombs.

The NTRO shared the input with the security establishment just before the attack on Monday: the first case where magnet bomb has been used as a terror weapon in the region. The arrival of the weapon, which has been used with lethal effectiveness in Iraq and, later in Iran, has left intelligence agencies troubled about the repercussions; especially in terms of measures that the security apparatus, already creaking under pressure, may have to take to deal with the new challenge.

Investigators handling the case have not been able to recover either a timer or a detonator, leading them to suspect that the device that the motorcycle-borne assailant used may have been an incendiary device. The debate about the nature of the device goes to the heart of another question relevant to the strike: whether the attacker was a local or a foreigner allegedly recruited by Iranian agents.

The agencies are working on the assumption that a foreigner would find it difficult to procure raw materials for an explosive device and, therefore, may settle for the use of an incendiary device which is easier to put together. But no firm conclusion can be reached yet about the bomber's nationality; one reason being his familiarity with the layout of the high-security zone where he targeted Tal Yehoshua.

Meanwhile, three days after the attack, Indian agencies have established contacts with their counterparts in Thailand and Georgia for specifics of the bombs that were recovered by them and targeted against Israelis. The effort is to study the parallels, if any, between the bombs in the three places - New Delhi, Bangkok and Tbilisi -- that could help New Delhi's investigations narrow down further.

Presently, Indian agencies are combing through the database of foreigners who entered India in recent times, and obtained visas at various missions. The lack of an organized database of visas issued at various locations around the world is making investigations that much difficult. Also being analysed are phone calls that were made around the attack site to various locations. "We are trying to get information about the kind of explosives used in the two other incidents, people behind them and whether the three incidents have any link," a source said.

Delhi Police is, meanwhile, groping in the dark even as it intensified its search for the attacker and a red motorcycle used by him. Though they found one such motorcycle in south Delhi's Lado Sarai, it is yet to be linked with the incident.

Preliminary forensic report of the 'sticky' device talks about finding traces of potassium chlorate and potassium nitrate. Cops have not found any circuit or battery from the spot - an indication that very sophisticated triggering device could have been used. "Preliminary report also talks about finding traces of aluminum and magnet. Final report is expected in three-four days," an official said.

Meanwhile, sources also spoke of a detailed letter from the Israeli embassy to Delhi Police of possible targeting of Israeli interests, but even this letter did not warn of any India specific inputs. Written on February 1 to Delhi Police, the letter had recalled in detail various developments around the world, and expressed concern that a "quality response" by Hezbollah or Iran to various attacks against Iranian targets and Hezbollah commanders.

The letter, signed by Yahel Vilan, the deputy chief of mission, and Shahar Gal Nero, the first secretary (security) had recalled reports from Bangkok about a terror plot targeted against Israelis. It had also spoken about Hezbollah's plans of revenge attacks in Europe. The letter had spoken about the possibility of revenge against the death of Iranian nuclear scientist Mustafa Ahmadi Roshan, who was killed in a car bomb attack on January 11.

The letter warned the police about recent inputs about people using forged Israeli passports. Specifically, the Israeli mission expressed fears that these forged passports could be used to avoid security checks in Israel and elsewhere.

The letter went on to say that since the killing of Imad Mughniyah, senior Hezbollah commander, on February 12, 2008, there had been efforts to carry out revenge killings. The letter said, "Iran and Hezbollah are determined to revenge the death" of Mughniyah.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 16 Feb 2012 07:23

15 CCTVs on road but no footage

Attacker's aim was fuel tank, wanted burning car to explode

Driver returns home, family says very proud of their son

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 16 Feb 2012 07:34

Scanning calls to Iran, Lebanon; Bangkok bomb similar: Police

Let us use local licence plates, not CD: Israel

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 08:14

During the current UP elections were there any elections speeches against Israel say in last ten days? Say from SP, RLD, INC?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 09:53

When was the first use of the word 'saffron' terror coined and by whom?

Also would like to know the timeline of theIndian Embassy in Kabul bombing.

anchal · Post by **anchal** » 16 Feb 2012 11:26

^^ Amul baby invoked Israel in Bundelkhand saying that Mulayam wants to turn it into Israel while MSY meant it in water harvesting sense!

Manish Jain · Post by **Manish Jain** » 16 Feb 2012 15:47

And Delhi police having its finest hour -

Delhi cops find ‘sticky bomb’ in game?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 16 Feb 2012 16:31

amul baby was only displaying his IQ of 82.
israel is a world leader in irrigation for arid areas since all of israel is like that.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 16 Feb 2012 18:45

anchal wrote:^^ Amul baby invoked Israel in Bundelkhand saying that Mulayam wants to turn it into Israel while MSY meant it in water harvesting sense!

Now these moron is playing anti-Semitic game...

Fits perfectly with his grandpa's fascist background.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Feb 2012 23:29

Most likely the Ind Muj module did it in copycat fashion. Only their choice of the date was same as the Iranian attacks iN Thailand and Georiga.
Now why did the IM module do this now is up to speculation?

- Kerala deportation
- UP election rhetoric
- Maybe outsourced from abroad (TSP, Iran or some others)

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 16 Feb 2012 23:47

ramana wrote:When was the first use of the word 'saffron' terror coined and by whom?

Also would like to know the timeline of theIndian Embassy in Kabul bombing.

BBC-Hindu terrorism' debate grips India

A new and highly controversial phrase has entered the sometimes cliche-riddled Indian press: "Hindu terrorism"

It was in the aftermath of the 29 September (2008) bomb blast in the predominantly Muslim town of Malegaon in the western state of Maharashtra that the term "Hindu terrorism" or "saffron terrorism" came to be used widely.

PC raises it for the first time-25 august 2010

From well planned terror attacks, to inciting communal violence, the new phenomenon of
'saffron terrorism' led by radical Hindu groups, was raised by the home minister at the meeting of state police chiefs in New Delhi on Wednesday.

There is no let up in the attempts to radicalise young men and women in India.There has been a recent uncovered phenomenon of saffron terrorism that has been implicated in many bomb blasts in the past. My advice to you is that we must remain ever vigilant and continue to build, at both Central and state level, our capacities in counter-terrorism," Home Minister P Chidambaram told the top policemen.

PC defends saffron remarks-sept 1 2010

Union Home Minister P Chidambaram on Wednesday defended himself on the use of term ''saffron'' to describe the alleged right wing terrorism.

Chidambaram pointed out that he is not the first person to use the phrase “saffron terror” as it has been used many a time, including by some ministers of the UPA government.

“I cannot claim patent on the phrase,” Chidambaram said answering a question here at a press conference on the occasion of presenting the monthly report of his ministry to newspersons.

Chidambaram said the word “saffron” was used many a times in the past in the Parliament like “saffonisation of education”.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 17 Feb 2012 00:13

vijayk wrote:
anchal wrote:^^ Amul baby invoked Israel in Bundelkhand saying that Mulayam wants to turn it into Israel while MSY meant it in water harvesting sense!
Now these moron is playing anti-Semitic game...

Fits perfectly with his grandpa's fascist background.

Interestingly his beard seems to be designed in the classic mullah style - to send out a visual signal. Will he shave it for Delhi? Best would be if he converts. Someone should suggest it - no one will be able to stop him from becoming the PM, and another decade of life extended to congrez.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Feb 2012 00:13

The term could be a CBM to support the piss process and has become a devil on its own. Now put the Indian embassy bombing in the time line.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Feb 2012 00:25

Update from google chacha:

Overnight raids in Delhi

Zeenews Bureau

New Delhi: Security agencies probing the bomb attack on an Israeli diplomat's car on Monday have conducted overnight raids at several places in the national capital and rounded several suspects possibly involved in the incident.

Despite no major breakthrough in the case, the investigators believe the red-bike borne planter could be a person of Indian origin, who might have been hired for the purpose.

The investigators are also working on another theory that suggests the sticky bomb used for blowing the Israeli diplomat’s vehicles could have been made locally.

Delhi Police, which yesterday ruled out the use of RDX in the attack, said that only 250-300 gms of explosive were used that further suggests that it was a low-intensity blast.

The investigators have also reached a conclusion that the woman diplomat, who was injured in the attack, was not the specific target. They believe any vehicle coming out of the Israeli embassy could have been their target as the assailants wanted to cause maximum damage to the Jewish state.

The use of magnetic bomb or sticky bomb has become a major cause of concern for investigators and security agencies as it is easy to assemble, carry them and avoid being detected.

The explosion on Monday took place just a few feet away from the highly guarded residence of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh that injured four people, including an Israeli diplomat's wife who was in the SUV.

Tel Aviv has accused Iran for commissioning the attack.

However, New Delhi has so far refused to pinpoint Iran for the Israeli car bomb blast, as it has no specific evidence pointing to the involvement of individual, entity, organisation or country in the attack. Meanwhile, a team of Israeli forensic experts was yesterday allowed access to the remains of the SUV. Later in the evening, the Israeli ambassador met Foreign Minister SM Krishna and said, "The meeting was a very good one. It is just another shining example of support, friendship and intimacy that we have been lucky to be exposed to in the last 48 hours since this very saddening vicious terrorist attack on one of our people took place here in the heart of New Delhi."

Delhi Police suspects that a red motorcycle found abandoned in South Delhi's Lado Sarai area may have been the bike involved in the attack, though security cameras from a private home in the area did not capture either the biker's face or the license plate of the two-wheeler.

If they rounded up so many people then its one more egg on the IB that so many people had inkiling on the plot. Again what were they thinking?

And could lead to charges of sterotyping and picking up people of one community.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 17 Feb 2012 00:33

^^It could also be blind pursuit. Showing activity and alacrity. Since it is more likely to be sourced form the islamist side, Iran, Pak, KSA, Lebanese, stateless Islamists, whoever - IB will "fail" to gather "actionable intel". If it was really the others from CT's - they would be quickly caught.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 17 Feb 2012 00:59

The real hero: The Indian driver who saved the Israeli diplomat's life

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Feb 2012 01:19

Bomb Make crucial for probe

NEW DELHI: The security apparatus is still scrambling for clues three days after a bomb ripped through a car of the Israeli embassy. On Thursday, the police brass held emergency meetings with senior government officials and members of intelligence agencies - IB, RAW and NIA. They discussed the strategy to crack the case.

Sources said investigators are doing a tightrope walk as both Iran and Israel are strategically important to India. Sleuths of RAW and IB have been asked to mobilize resources and swiftly get inputs on the terrorists. At the meeting, the intelligence brass, however, ruled out the role of Indian Mujahideen or Lashkar in the attack.

But even after 72 hours, investigators are yet to pinpoint the make of the bomb. The forensic report is still awaited. Sources said it's crucial to first establish if the bomb was assembled abroad or in India. This will provide vital clues on whether there was an indigenous terror hand.

Sources told TOI that senior bureaucrats and government officials hammered out a strategy on the line of investigation as they don't want to base the probe on wild charges.

While Israel is blaming Iran for the attack, investigators say it is too early to pin the blame on Teheran as there is little evidence now. "We want to conduct a fair investigation. We cannot assume theories without evidence because it is a diplomatic issue," said a senior police officer.

Delhi Police sources say they have been asked to double check information before taking a line on investigation. Officials have also been asked to not name any country. "There is no concrete clue yet on the blast," said a senior officer. Delhi Police is checking red bikes in the city suburbs with help of local police.

Speaking to TOI, a senior police officer said Thailand and Georgia have provided information on blasts that took place in respective countries. "Government agencies have been given information from Georgia and Thailand on terror organisations and suspects. Forensic experts are working on these leads," he said. Sources said the Bangkok bomb does not bear resemblance to the one triggered at Delhi. The Bangkok bomb has C-4 as ingredient.

Why dont they ask the DRDO labs to analyze the samples? And based on that what would they configure it would look like?

Also I understand LeT is ruled out but how and why Ind Muj is ruled out?

Most likely it was Ind Muj as they had the motive (Kerala investigations) and the capability of this shoe polish type cannister device (looks like a fire cracker with a three-four second time fuse).

Also if the forensic report is not yet released then who was claiming Potassium Nitrate and Chlorate were used?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Feb 2012 01:26

Two related stories:

Mamta shares Naveen's concerns on NCTC arrest powers without consulting States

So what was PC doing as Home Minster all these years in not consulting the states as Police powers are states rights.

Most terror cases solved -MHA

Then why this?

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 17 Feb 2012 01:48

ramana wrote:The term could be a CBM to support the piss process and has become a devil on its own. Now put the Indian embassy bombing in the time line.

Kabul Indian embassy bombings-
1) July 7 2008
2) oct 8 2009
3) Feb 26 2010.

Piss process started with bakis after 26/11/08 in feb 2010.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 17 Feb 2012 01:53

^^^^
Indian mujahideen role is probed and not ruled out.
It is TOILet news.
Indian Mujahideen hand in bomb attack being probed

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Feb 2012 02:09

Not linked

'Delhi, Bangkok blasts not linked'

The Delhi Police on Thursday claimed that the car bomb attack on an Israeli diplomat in the city three days ago and the three blasts in Bangkok a day later were unrelated.

A senior Delhi Police officer probing the car blast said the inference had been drawn on the basis of investigation details from the Bangkok blasts shared by the Thailand police.

“The bombs that exploded in Bangkok bear no similarity to the one used to target the Israeli diplomat’s wife on Aurangzeb Road,” the officer said.

The officer said the sticky bomb put on 42-year-old Tal Yehoshua Koren’s Israeli embassy vehicle had traces of potassium chlorate — a low-grade nitrate compound — and no shrapnel. Traces of a “magnetic substance” were also found.

“But as per information provided by intelligence agencies in liaison with Bangkok, the bombs there had high quality plastic explosives, iron filings, nails and glass shards used as shrapnel,” the officer said.

The Thailand police have said the Iranian bomber in Bangkok wanted to target Israeli diplomats. Israel has blamed the Delhi bomb attack too on Iran.

Now they can concentrate on who did it.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Feb 2012 02:10

krisna wrote:^^^^
Indian mujahideen role is probed and not ruled out.
It is TOILet news.
Indian Mujahideen hand in bomb attack being probed

This is old news. Read the one I posted.

LeT and IM ruled out.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Feb 2012 03:46

TOI.

Similar but different ingredients

This would have been a well written article if the ariter focussed on the subject line and not expound his knowledge of what is being said abroad. All that is irrlevant detail. And he is not clear which govt when he says sources.

The bottom line is per the Delhi police the bombs are similar but have vastly diffrent materials. So it could be local originated attack.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 17 Feb 2012 07:37

Probe into red bike leads police nowhere

Some house rules

‘Embassies not keeping us in loop’

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 17 Feb 2012 08:00

Israel wants India to back UN resolution on ‘Iran attacks’

From the Urdu Press

Israel’s calculations

Commenting on the attack on an Israeli diplomat’s car that occurred in New Delhi, and a similiar attempt in Tblisi, Rashtriya Sahara writes on February 15: “Such acts, wherever they happen and whoever commits them, deserve the surest condemnation, but equally condemnable is the reaction of the Israeli government to these incidents. Their prime minister first declared that Iran was behind these incidents, but within minutes, changed the statement and said Lebanon’s Hezbollah was behind this.” The paper adds: “Iran’s name was first mentioned because the media would readily accept this, but then he realised that if Iran was accused, the world would remember many stories. Three brilliant Iranian scientists were killed in mysterious circumstances within a year, and Iran had claimed that it had evidence that Mossad was behind these killings. That is why Israel mentioned Hezbollah’s name, as it would be more acceptable to the western media.”

Inquilab, published from Mumbai, Delhi, Lucknow, Kanpur and Bareilly, sees an Israeli effort to disturb the existing ties between India and Iran. The paper writes: “The Israeli government is very worried about India’s refusal to yield to US and Israeli pressure. In this scenario, one would not be surprised if these blasts were conducted by Mossad itself.”