Arun Roperia wrote:Calling someone else's opinion as unintelligible, BS and dumb shows the level the above poster (Rony) has stooped to put forward his point.
Where did i called him unintelligent and dumb personally ? Please show me where did i say that. I said that his views (about martial race and his equating those people who are against this nonsense thory as somehow anti-sikh and hence against secularism) are BS which i dont see as personnal attack.
Arun Roperia wrote:Quoting 700 years old civilizations to prove the capabilities of one's own people, while dismissing with disdain even the modern history of northern India only exposes the selective use of history that taints the poster's argument.
You are again quoting me wrong. Where did i shown a 'disdain' about modern history of Norethern India ? Give me exact quotes please ! I "quoted 700 years of old civilization" to prove my point that different regions of India displayed "martial" (what ever that means) qualities in different periods of time. If some northies displayed martial qualities in modern history, some southis displayed it in anceint history.Thats the whole point i was making. 'Who is martial and who is not' depends on which period you are talking about and for how long. If southies are martial at some point of time, the northies are martial at some other point of time.
Arun Roperia wrote:The dynasties that are being quoted here are before the time Muslims invaded India
So history starts from muslim invasions ? What about Shakas, Hunas and other barbarians from central asia who invaded India in pre - islamic era.What about people who fought in south east asia in medeival times for their empire? They are not martial enough ? Oh btw, not all the dynasties which i mentioned are pre-islamic. The vijayanagar empire is famous presicely because it acted as a bulkwark against islamic intrusions.
Arun Roperia wrote:Without going too much into the past, it is a fact that even in modern India a large number of Jaats serve in the Indian Army, including the Jat Regiment, Rajputana Rifles, Sikh Regiment and the Grenadiers. Jats even today prefer to go for either agriculture or soldiering as their profession. They have proved in pre and post independence periods that they are fearless soldiers (Refer The Brave People). As farmers, we value our physical strength and work industriously on our lands. These professions are labour intensive jobs and hence there is a degree of strength and perseverance that comes with being a Jat.
All this is fine and dandy but irrelevant to my point. I never disputed that Jats, sikhs and what ever you want to include in that list are not "martial enough". My point is this whole martial theory nonsense from sikhs, jatts etc etc northies looks so immature and childish . There were plenty of times where i had hearty laughs and mocked Pakjabis and Pathans (both in real life and online) for their facination with this nonsense. Never thought some Indian northies too would fall for this charade.