Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 2012

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 22 Feb 2012 23:14

^^^ yes - important to distinguish between the maghreb, levant and the gulf
the former two have history and culture but get led astray by zeal
the latter has none of the above and were happily roaming the sands till the black sticky stuff showed up under gora drills

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 22 Feb 2012 23:19

Eleven Asian men 'plied girls of 13 with drink and drugs to use them for sex'

The Sharia't based punishment which is a public castration(and removal of genitals on Live TV for world) of these eleven beasts at Piccadily circus should be utilized.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 22 Feb 2012 23:28

tejas wrote:What is the only real difference between India and "Pakistan" other then the goat herder's religion?

Tejas, I am afraid that the answer to this rhetorical question will take quite a bit of deep introspection on everyone's part (particularly on this forum). India has 150 million Muslims who are largely very dedicated and seemingly loyal to their country of birth. So it is not the issue with, as you put it, "the goat herder's religion". Hence, it is not an easy answer. My counter question to yours is very straight forward (and perhaps that may help you in answering your own question): Do you personally know any pakistanis?. Please do not take this as an accusation of any sort. Its a simple question. Once you have socially known a few pakis (as I have), the difference becomes self evident. And, to my knowlege, the difference is quite evident between Indians and pakistanis (not India and pakistan).

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 22 Feb 2012 23:29

SBajwa wrote:
Eleven Asian men 'plied girls of 13 with drink and drugs to use them for sex'
The Sharia't based punishment which is a public castration(and removal of genitals on Live TV for world) of these eleven beasts at Piccadily circus should be utilized.

Not so fast. They (the "alleged" victims) will need to produce three witnesses each per incident per accusation. Do you realize how many witnesses that amounts to?

Vivasvat · Post by **Vivasvat** » 22 Feb 2012 23:45

Belongs in Bojitiv Newj thread...moving....

member_19686 · Post by **member_19686** » 22 Feb 2012 23:49

Its not okay to pass judgement on Islam but its okay to suggest genocide and mass murder (forced famines to boot) as "solutions" to the problem of "Pakistan".

How easily people forget history or choose to ignore it to suit their PC beliefs.

Pakistanis used to be Indians barely 65 years ago and the biggest supporters of Pakistan were not them but Muslims who lived with in what is now called India, UP and AMU were the fountainheads of this ideology. According to secularists, overnight these ML voters become super patriotic Indians just because they chose to stay back among Hindu kaffirs and any subsequent rioting and clashes is due to evil Hindu nazis.

tejas to answer your question, not much difference, if India had a Muslim majority it would be no different from Pakistan. The same rapes, killings, and genocide of Hindus would go on in India on a much bigger scale, just look at what was done to Hindus in Kashmir with collaboration of the local Muslims.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 00:03

Surasena wrote:Pakistanis used to be Indians barely 65 years ago and the biggest supporters of Pakistan were not them but Muslims who lived with in what is now called India, UP and AMU were the fountainheads of this ideology. According to secularists, overnight these ML voters become super patriotic Indians just because they chose to stay back among Hindu kaffirs and any subsequent rioting and clashes is due to evil Hindu nazis.

Till now i have not understood this issue. They were the main fountain heads of paki movement and then did not do theHijra and most surprisingly thye were not kicked out by indians for their crime against nation and humanity. Not going OT, If LET has 26 hard cell in North India then high chance that 20 plus exist in UP, mainly Azamrgarh which is nothing but dark copy of Valley full of sunni Jihadis. Proper house cleaning can kill many germs to avoid the occurance of various diseases.

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 23 Feb 2012 00:44

Anupmisra, I know no Paquis on a personal level. The one I unfortunately knew at a professional level was the biggest SOB I ever met.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 01:40

jhooth bole Uncle maree,afghanistan se Dariyo

Pakistan Vows to Support Not Lead Afghan Peace Drive

Hina Rabbani Khar said Afghans were tired of attempts by other countries to take charge of their affairs and, for the good of future bilateral ties, Pakistan should not be seen to be interfering too closely. "We will support any (peace efforts) that are Afghan-led, Afghan-owned and Afghan-driven. This is our first and last pre-requisite," Khar said in a speech at Chatham House, an international relations think tank in London. "But we will not lead. We cannot lead ... We will only follow what our Afghan brothers and sisters decide is the course of action they will adopt," she said. Khar added that as long as that condition was met, Pakistan would not block any effort by any nation to assist the Afghan government in achieving a political settlement to end war in Afghanistan. In a statement on Tuesday, Afghan President Hamid Karzai asked Pakistan "to support and facilitate our direct negotiation efforts as part of the peace process". "Pakistan's support to the peace process will be crucial to its success, as well as a significant contribution to the security and stability of Afghanistan and the entire region," Karzai said.

( Talks are gonna be failure)

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 01:40

Boeing wins five 777 orders from Pakistan International Airlines

Payment Kaun Kargea,666?

Pakistan International Airlines today announced it has placed a firm order for five Boeing 777-300ER jets and taken purchase rights for an additional five.
At list prices, the order is worth $1.5 billion. The large twin-aisle, two-engine, long-range jets will be built at Boeing’s Everett wide-body assembly plant.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 23 Feb 2012 02:23

tejas wrote:Anupmisra, I know no Paquis on a personal level. The one I unfortunately knew at a professional level was the biggest SOB I ever met.

Yes, that's unfortunately been the usual experience of many BRFers here. Not to say that there arent any good decent pakis out there. Bumped into a couple in the US. But, by that definition, a "decent paki" for an Indian means that he is not paki enough.

archan · Post by **archan** » 23 Feb 2012 03:21

Surasena wrote:Its not okay to pass judgement on Islam but its okay to suggest genocide and mass murder (forced famines to boot) as "solutions" to the problem of "Pakistan".

How easily people forget history or choose to ignore it to suit their PC beliefs.

Pakistanis used to be Indians barely 65 years ago and the biggest supporters of Pakistan were not them but Muslims who lived with in what is now called India, UP and AMU were the fountainheads of this ideology. According to secularists, overnight these ML voters become super patriotic Indians just because they chose to stay back among Hindu kaffirs and any subsequent rioting and clashes is due to evil Hindu nazis.

tejas to answer your question, not much difference, if India had a Muslim majority it would be no different from Pakistan. The same rapes, killings, and genocide of Hindus would go on in India on a much bigger scale, just look at what was done to Hindus in Kashmir with collaboration of the local Muslims.

Sir, since you are relatively new to the forum, let me explain this much to you. When a mod says no to something, you are not expected to do it. If you have a problem with that, feel free to use the feedback form. If that does not resolve your issue then perhaps your philosophy is not compatible with BRF and you need to look elsewhere. If this place is "too PC" for you, then please find one that suits you better.
Now the next time I see you painting all Muslims with the same brush, it won't be very pleasant. As regards to the genocide comment, no it is not approved. However as you might have seen, many members already showed what is wrong with that line of thinking to the user who posted it. Mods don't need to step in each and every time.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 23 Feb 2012 04:43

archan wrote:Lets not make statements that take the credit away from pakis. Pakis deserve full credit of the cesspool they have created for them. I see a lot of people looking for a chance to pass a comment on Islam. The Arab countries have done well financially. Granted it is oil, but it is an industry nonetheless.
It is pakis that have messed up pakistan. Give them full credit.

is this a "moderating" comment? as in, is this some rule that we're not supposed to cross? or is this merely your belief/observation? I would like to know b/c Islam deserves full credit along with other issues for creating Pakistan. and I don't intend to sugar coat that truth. and if it is a "rule" that you are propounding, then the other mods need to make their stand clear on this ridiculous proposal of "blaming Pakis" and "not blaming Islam". that is one heck of an oxymoron if I've ever seen one!

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 23 Feb 2012 06:01

Archan ji is religion as whole an out of bounds subject on the forum or are we allowed to discuss it rationally & keeping it in context with the topic of the thread? The reason I ask is because most pakis and over all muslims all over the globe seem to always talk think & act in accordance to their interpretation of faith a lot more than people of other faiths. So in order to analyze certain traits which include the grooming of underage girls in UK we need to dive a little deeper into what makes them feel they have no moral hazard for that act. Please advise. Sorry for being OT

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 23 Feb 2012 07:24

Just a Nube Sawal, how can BRF discuss a nation founded for a specific religious group, without discussing that religion and what was it which compelled the formation of the said nation.

Considering that, our subject nation considers it self to be the sword arm of its religion.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 23 Feb 2012 07:25

Some marginally related philosophical musings...

If you hide your religion and you are a Muslim, what you are doing could possibly be doing taqiyya (hiding your belief for personal safety) or you could be a munafiq (hypocrite). You are supposed to show your religion and openly display its tenets. The very same behaviour (or hiding one's status as Muslim) could arise from two diametrically opposite situations.

One is "self protection" against aggressive non Muslims who might torment you. The other is because you are not really interested in showing totally Islamic behaviour because as many Pakis themselves admit in candid moments, the demands are heavy and not always convenient or practical to follow and are frequently disregarded.

No Muslim who grows up in an Islamic environment can fail to see the options that this gives him. When the Muslim is in kafir company he can choose not to be wholly Islamic but would be able to explain that behavior as "Taqiyya" to a fellow Muslim who accuses him of being Munafiq for a transgression such as missing a prayer or eating during Ramzan.

Funnily enough, for a Muslim to survive the zealots in his own society he has to act like the whole world is against him when he is in the company of unbelievers. He can act like a non Muslim but if he is questioned by a mullah/zealot he must always be ready to accuse his non Muslim friends of harboring anti Muslim feelings that demanded Taqiya of him, rather than Munafiq behavior (which he may have intended in the first place). The point I am trying to make is that Muslims have to behave weird in non Muslim company merely to escape being branded as Muslim pretenders in their own society.

This is true of a very large number of Muslims who live anywhere in the world among non Muslims. But Pakistanis are a special case. They are a special case because their existence is based on hatred for the Hindu. Pakistan is as communal/unsecular as you can get. And Pakistan's right to exist as a fundamentally anti-Hindu state has international support. Secularism in international affairs is a matter of choice. Indians do not have to be secular at an international level. But our domestic harmony has required a particularly intense need for "up front, in your face" secularism because India is unique in being mainly Hindu and Hindus are unique in having been branded as racist by Christian and Islamic civilizations in the past. For Hindus this is a double whammy of sorts. Hindus are accused of racism against fellow Hindus, but any discrimination against non Hindus (Christians/Muslims) is general Hindu bigotry against anything that does not fit into their unique "caste system".

For this reason Indians have been particularly disabled when it comes to criticism of racism and bigotry from Pakistanis, while Pakistanis on the other hand have been encouraged to be open and critical of Hindus in any country because every country, Christian or Muslims "recognizes and understands" the unique bigotry of the Hindu.

As I see it the only way out is not just to unmask Pakislamic hypocrisy against Hindus but to lay open the recessed Christian attitudes that actually encouraged the Pakistan phenomenon. Attitudes that now lie forgotten or hidden behind a facade of Western "secular liberalism". There are three major religions involved here. Allowing the world to act as if only two of them are getting at each others throats while the third is an innocent and neutral bystander is a serious mistake. That mistake affects Hindus and India adversely.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 23 Feb 2012 08:19

In an interesting turn of events, Musharraf is pointing fingers at Zardari regarding BB murder saying that Z knows who killed BB.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Feb 2012 09:26

Brahmdagh Bugti calls for Indian intervention in Balochistan - The Hindu

Exiled Baloch leader Brahumdagh Bugti has called on India to back the secessionist struggle in Pakistan's largest province, saying international pressure is necessary to prevent what he described as a “massacre of an entire people.”

In an exclusive interview to The Hindu — his first to an Indian newspaper — Mr. Bugti said New Delhi had an “ethical obligation, as a democracy and a regional power, to join the world in condemning the ongoing massacre of the Baloch people.” “The Baloch do not need guns,” he added, “but we need political support, so Pakistan's military knows the world will hold it to account.”

Pakistani troops are reported to have resumed operations targeting tribal insurgents around gas-rich Balochistan's Kohlu and Dera Bugti areas, against the backdrop of mounting concern over events in the troubled province.

Earlier this month, Mr. Bugti's sister, Zamur Domki, and her 12-year-old daughter, Jaana Domki, were murdered in Karachi — the latest, Baloch activists say, in a series of assassinations intended to terrorise opponents of the government.

Zohra Yusuf, chairperson of the independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, recently voiced “grave alarm that 107 new cases of enforced disappearance have been reported in Balochistan in 2011.” The missing, she said, “are increasingly turning up dead.”

Human Rights Watch said “human rights activists and academics critical of the military have also been killed in the province.”

United States State department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said earlier this month her government was “deeply concerned about the ongoing violence in Balochistan, especially targeted killings, disappearances and other human rights abuses.”

Pakistan reacted angrily to congressional hearings on the violence, saying the U.S. was interfering in its internal affairs.

Mr. Bugti is the grandson of Nawab Akbar Bugti, a veteran politician and traditional clan leader who was killed in the course of a military assault on insurgent positions around Dera Bugti in 2006. He escaped to Afghanistan, and has now sought political asylum in Switzerland.

Pakistan alleges that Mr. Bugti commands Indian-backed insurgent networks which have carried out multiple terrorist attacks. New Delhi denies the allegations.

“I do not understand why India is so reluctant to speak about this issue,” Mr. Bugti said “when Pakistan not only backs separatist groups in Jammu and Kashmir but even funds terrorists.”

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 09:31

Dumb Meet The Bum Gum

Feeding the bomb, starving the nation

Pakistanis are fast becoming a wasted nation. The alarmingly high level of malnutrition observed in Pakistan in the past few years is far worse than what has been observed in the sub-Saharan Africa. Millions of Pakistani children have been identified as stunted, under-weight, and wasting because of hunger, disease, and poverty.
While the future of millions of children is threatened by hunger, the civil and military elites in Pakistan continue to pour undisclosed billions into conventional and nuclear weapons. The oft morbidly obese leaders of the right-wing religious and political parties are also in step with the military establishment as they continue to mobilise the starving masses to support developing Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.In 2006, the United Nations estimated that no fewer than 35 million Pakistanis were malnourished. However, those who put the nation on the path to pursue nuclear weapons never suffered poverty, disease or hunger. For instance, Dr. Qadeer Khan’s daughters did not have to starve even when their father was pursuing prohibitively expensive Uranium enrichment for the weapons program. And whereas Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto promised to eat grass if he had to for pursuing nuclear weapons, he or his kin never did. Between their villas in Europe and hotels in Mali, those who pushed Pakistan into pursuing nuclear weapons did quite well for their personal fortunes.Asma Razzaq, writing in the Business Reorder, reported in October 2011 that Pakistan produces 36 million tons of grains and consumes 28 million tons. Even with a surplus of 8 million tons, 60 per cent Pakistanis reported experiencing food insecurity because of inflated prices of food staples.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 09:33

Baramdagh says nothing less than independence acceptable
http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/23/baramdag ... table.html

QUETTA: Baloch Republican Party (BRP) chief Nawabzada Baramdagh Bugti has asked Balochistan Governor Zulfikar Magsi, Chief Minister Aslam Raisani and all Baloch members of the national and provincial assemblies to tender resignation and join the Baloch “movement for independence”.Speaking at his first telephonic press conference from Switzerland here on Wednesday, he rejected the proposed all-parties conference on the Balochistan issue and said Baloch people would not negotiate on anything less than independence of Balochistan.“Nawab Magsi, Nawab Raiasni and other Baloch people who are part of the government should quit after seeing the bodies of Baloch daughters, sons and youths and join the struggle for independence of Balochistan,” Baramdagh said, adding that if they were not willing to join the movement they should “sit quietly” at home and not become part of the government’s “anti-Baloch policies”.He belittled Islamabad’s reaction to the tabling of a resolution in the US House of Representatives seeking right of self-determination for the people of Balochistan, contending that the rulers, political parties and media had started speaking about the province only because they thought that after the move in the US House had made “Punjab unsafe”.“Why have they remained silent hitherto over the misery heaped on the Baloch by the state since in the shape of disappearances and bullet-riddled bodies since 2005,” the Baloch leader remarked.If the government claims that nothing is happening in Balochistan, why is it not allowing the media and human rights organisations to visit Dera Bugti, Kohlu, Kahan and other areas of the province,” he wondered.He said the ruling elite had all the sympathy for Punjab but none whatsoever for Balochistan.

He said the Baloch struggling for their rights were not receiving any aid from any country. However, he said if India, the United States or any other country offered them aid they would welcome it.He appealed to the US, European Union and the United Nations to intervene in Balochistan and rid the Baloch people of atrocities being committing against them

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 09:38

mr. Zar-daari How many Birds Circling over Head
ThisZardari admitted to Dubai hospital: report

Reportedly, President Zardari has been admitted in a Dubai hospital for mental pheckup. According to reports, President Asif Ali Zardari is hospitalized in Dubai Hospital for mental Pheckup on Wednesday, Dunya News reported.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 09:45

US pushed ahead with drone strikes despite Pakistani resistance

Born of Rape,For The Rape Getrepeatedly Rape

WASHINGTON: Shortly before the United States ended a two-month pause in missile strikes on militants in Pakistan last month, senior U.S. officials telephoned their Pakistani counterparts and told them Washington would be resuming its covert drone program despite mounting objections in Islamabad.Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were among those who spoke with Pakistani officials shortly before the eight-week pause in the drone program ended, sources familiar with the issue said.
General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke to his Pakistani counterpart General Ashfaq Kayani around the same time, the sources said, but a U.S. defense official said the two men did not discuss drone strikes.The strike that followed on January 10, when U.S. aircraft fired missiles at a home in the North Waziristan tribal area, was the first such attack since U.S. aircraft, in a mishap that plunged bilateral ties into a tailspin, killed 24 Pakistani soldiers along remote border with Afghanistan.The November 26 border incident infuriated a vulnerable government in Islamabad and prompted Pakistani officials to signal, in more emphatic terms than they had previously, that they would no longer accept U.S. drone strikes. That set the Obama administration up for yet another potential collision with Pakistan as it continues a controversial drone program that has become a centerpiece of U.S. efforts to quash militancy there.The Pakistani border deaths, which NATO deemed an accident and a tragedy, prompted Pakistan to shut down an overland supply route that is key for NATO troops in Afghanistan and to force U.S. personnel off an air base in southwest Pakistan that had been used to launch drone strikes in Pakistan's tribal areas.In public, the U.S. missile strikes are a frequent target of criticism for Pakistani politicians, who decry them as a violation of the country's sovereignty. But in private, Pakistani leaders have long supported and even encouraged the strikes provided they steer clear of certain areas and targets.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 09:52

Kya Khoob oorti ho, Kitni sundar dikhti ho
Paki Jaan ki pyasi ho, Taliban ki Nasshi ho
Phir se ooro, Oorti raho, Accha lagta hai
Hellpfire ke baad, Poaqer Terrorist
Kitna Khasta lagta Hai.

Khasta=crispy

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 23 Feb 2012 10:12

Jhujar wrote:mr. Zar-daari How many Birds Circling over Head
ThisZardari admitted to Dubai hospital: report
Reportedly, President Zardari has been admitted in a Dubai hospital for mental pheckup. According to reports, President Asif Ali Zardari is hospitalized in Dubai Hospital for mental checkup on Wednesday, Dunya News reported.

So does mental checkup precede anal checkup for the pious?

archan · Post by **archan** » 23 Feb 2012 10:23

devesh, Brad and Pratyush, please refer to the OT thread.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 10:48

Just like in 1971 , Indians need to start collecting public funds for the freedom struggle of supressed Baluchi people . IMHO, 3-400 Millions can be collected annualy in major cities alone. Baloch people need to take the struggle deep into Pakjab.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 23 Feb 2012 10:50

Raja Bose wrote:
Jhujar wrote:mr. Zar-daari How many Birds Circling over Head
ThisZardari So does mental checkup precede anal checkup for the pious?

Arre bhai, both organs are located together like Bhai and Cousin sister.

member_21708 · Post by **member_21708** » 23 Feb 2012 11:00

Pakistani held on spying charge

Pakistani national Kamran Akbar, who was held on charges of spying, being taken to a court in New Delhi on Tuesday.

A 39-year-old Pakistani national has been arrested at the New Delhi railway station here on charges of spying. Police claim to have recovered some defence-related documents from him.

Acting on a tip-off, a Delhi Police Crime Branch team arrested Kamran Akbar alias Attar alias Asif Hossain while he was trying to board a train to Kolkata. Some sensitive documents were recovered from him and a case was registered, the police said.

Kamran, a resident of Karachi, first came to India in 1992 on a valid Pakistani passport via train and started staying with his uncle Mohammad Salim in Kolkata. He then went to Goa with his uncle and his acquaintance Asraf Khan. Salim, being a tourist guide, was well-acquainted with the topography of Goa, allegedly committed robberies along with Kamran and Asraf to make easy money.

Kamran along with his two accomplices was arrested and sent to jail. On his release in 1996, he came back to Kolkata to stay with another relative and procured an Indian passport in the name of Asif Hossain. He then went back to Pakistan on a month-long visa in July 1997.

The Military Intelligence agencies in Pakistan came to know about him and persuaded him to work for them for handsome returns. He was recruited in October 2004 and trained in trade craft knowledge about Indian military ranks, codes for communication, surveillance and anti-surveillance measures, Internet, email chatting and was also given some lessons in Hindi, the police said. Kamran was given Delhi as his target area and tasked with cultivating defence personnel as sources.

He illegally entered India in 2007 through the Nepal border and reached Kolkata, the police said. He was allegedly provided a driving licence of Rajasthan and $400 by his handlers.

In Kolkata, he began the business of selling garments and married an Indian woman. He also procured a voter card, PAN card and opened a bank account. He allegedly received funds through hawala (a type of informal banking system) and remittances from abroad were also made to his bank account, the police said.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 917106.ece

he should have been deported and his relatives staying in kolkatta arrested for aiding his criminal and espionage acts.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 23 Feb 2012 11:25

Jhujar wrote:mr. Zar-daari How many Birds Circling over Head
ThisZardari admitted to Dubai hospital: report
Reportedly, President Zardari has been admitted in a Dubai hospital for mental pheckup. According to reports, President Asif Ali Zardari is hospitalized in Dubai Hospital for mental Pheckup on Wednesday, Dunya News reported.

Probably because of this:
Key Pakistan 'memogate' player Mansoor Ijaz testifies

The businessman at the centre of Pakistan's "memogate" scandal has begun giving video link testimony to a judicial commission in Islamabad.

Mansoor Ijaz is giving evidence from London, having argued that returning to Pakistan would compromise his safety.

He alleges that Pakistan's former US ambassador, Husain Haqqani, drafted a memo at the behest of President Asif Ali Zardari seeking US help to avert a possible coup in Pakistan.

So Mansoor Ijaz is cooling his heels in London, Haqqani has fled to the US, guess Zardari knew to get out while he could.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Feb 2012 11:42

vikramd wrote:Pakistani held on spying charge

Kamran along with his two accomplices was arrested and sent to jail. On his release in 1996, he came back to Kolkata to stay with another relative and procured an Indian passport in the name of Asif Hossain. He then went back to Pakistan on a month-long visa in July 1997.

The Military Intelligence agencies in Pakistan came to know about him and persuaded him to work for them for handsome returns. He was recruited in October 2004 and trained in trade craft knowledge about Indian military ranks, codes for communication, surveillance and anti-surveillance measures, Internet, email chatting and was also given some lessons in Hindi, the police said. Kamran was given Delhi as his target area and tasked with cultivating defence personnel as sources.

He illegally entered India in 2007 through the Nepal border and reached Kolkata, the police said. He was allegedly provided a driving licence of Rajasthan and $400 by his handlers.

In Kolkata, he began the business of selling garments and married an Indian woman. He also procured a voter card, PAN card and opened a bank account. He allegedly received funds through hawala (a type of informal banking system) and remittances from abroad were also made to his bank account, the police said.[/b]
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 917106.ece

he should have been deported and his relatives staying in kolkatta arrested for aiding his criminal and espionage acts.

This is exactly why they are fighting for more " people to people " contacts and liberalized visa regime so that snakes can easily enter. More educational facilities for paki students in (Indian colleges) indeed!!

And some of our paid "useful idiots" , like undie tee vee and the burqha brigade are vociferously pushing the nefarious paki line

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 23 Feb 2012 13:36

Pakistan: 'Eight dead' as bomb hits Peshawar bus stop

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 23 Feb 2012 14:23

anupmisra wrote:
SBajwa wrote:quote]Eleven Asian men 'plied girls of 13 with drink and drugs to use them for sex'/quote]

The Sharia't based punishment which is a public castration(and removal of genitals on Live TV for world) of these eleven beasts at Piccadily circus should be utilized.
Not so fast. They (the "alleged" victims) will need to produce three witnesses each per incident per accusation. Do you realize how many witnesses that amounts to?

Not any person, but Muslim males only.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 23 Feb 2012 14:27

ArmenT wrote:
Jhujar wrote:mr. Zar-daari How many Birds Circling over Head
ThisZardari admitted to Dubai hospital: report
uote]Reportedly, President Zardari has been admitted in a Dubai hospital for mental pheckup. According to reports, President Asif Ali Zardari is hospitalized in Dubai Hospital for mental Pheckup on Wednesday, Dunya News reported./quote]
Probably because of this:
Key Pakistan 'memogate' player Mansoor Ijaz testifies
The businessman at the centre of Pakistan's "memogate" scandal has begun giving video link testimony to a judicial commission in Islamabad.

Mansoor Ijaz is giving evidence from London, having argued that returning to Pakistan would compromise his safety.

He alleges that Pakistan's former US ambassador, Husain Haqqani, drafted a memo at the behest of President Asif Ali Zardari seeking US help to avert a possible coup in Pakistan.
So Mansoor Ijaz is cooling his heels in London, Haqqani has fled to the US, guess Zardari knew to get out while he could.

Was the testimony on the lines of the Stupid Disco Video.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Feb 2012 14:38

Aditya_V wrote:
ArmenT wrote:{quote="Jhujar"}mr. Zar-daari How many Birds Circling over Head
ThisZardari admitted to Dubai hospital: report
uote]Reportedly, President Zardari has been admitted in a Dubai hospital for mental pheckup. According to reports, President Asif Ali Zardari is hospitalized in Dubai Hospital for mental Pheckup on Wednesday, Dunya News reported./quote]
Probably because of this:
Key Pakistan 'memogate' player Mansoor Ijaz testifies
The businessman at the centre of Pakistan's "memogate" scandal has begun giving video link testimony to a judicial commission in Islamabad.

Mansoor Ijaz is giving evidence from London, having argued that returning to Pakistan would compromise his safety.

He alleges that Pakistan's former US ambassador, Husain Haqqani, drafted a memo at the behest of President Asif Ali Zardari seeking US help to avert a possible coup in Pakistan.

So Mansoor Ijaz is cooling his heels in London, Haqqani has fled to the US, guess Zardari knew to get out while he could.
Was the testimony on the lines of the Stupid Disco Video.

But isn't giving evidence via video-conferencing not allowed under Pakistani laws??

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Feb 2012 15:19

Jhujar wrote:Feeding the bomb, starving the nation

Pakistanis are fast becoming a wasted nation. The alarmingly high level of malnutrition observed in Pakistan in the past few years is far worse than what has been observed in the sub-Saharan Africa. Millions of Pakistani children have been identified as stunted, under-weight, and wasting because of hunger, disease, and poverty.
While the future of millions of children is threatened by hunger, the civil and military elites in Pakistan continue to pour undisclosed billions into conventional and nuclear weapons. The oft morbidly obese leaders of the right-wing religious and political parties are also in step with the military establishment as they continue to mobilise the starving masses to support developing Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.In 2006, the United Nations estimated that no fewer than 35 million Pakistanis were malnourished. However, those who put the nation on the path to pursue nuclear weapons never suffered poverty, disease or hunger. For instance, Dr. Qadeer Khan’s daughters did not have to starve even when their father was pursuing prohibitively expensive Uranium enrichment for the weapons program. And whereas Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto promised to eat grass if he had to for pursuing nuclear weapons, he or his kin never did. Between their villas in Europe and hotels in Mali, those who pushed Pakistan into pursuing nuclear weapons did quite well for their personal fortunes.Asma Razzaq, writing in the Business Reorder, reported in October 2011 that Pakistan produces 36 million tons of grains and consumes 28 million tons. Even with a surplus of 8 million tons, 60 per cent Pakistanis reported experiencing food insecurity because of inflated prices of food staples.

India needs to increase our import of food grain from Pakistan, but also increase the supply of small arms through Afghanistan! In fact we should pay good price for the food grain!

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 23 Feb 2012 17:40

Aditya_V wrote:
anupmisra wrote:Not so fast. They (the "alleged" victims) will need to produce three witnesses each per incident per accusation. Do you realize how many witnesses that amounts to?
Not any person, but Muslim males only.

from what i understand IN most of the cases the girls would have had no shortage of witnesses (and co-attackers)

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 23 Feb 2012 18:12

RajeshA wrote:India needs to increase our import of food grain from Pakistan, but also increase the supply of small arms through Afghanistan! In fact we should pay good price for the food grain!

Indeed, it will help is two-fold. First, decrease local prices and curb inflation. Second, increase prices across the border, fuel inflation and increase frustration against the rulers. If only our government thought this way.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 23 Feb 2012 18:25

Jhujar wrote:Dumb Meet The Bum Gum

Feeding the bomb, starving the nation
Pakistanis are fast becoming a wasted nation. The alarmingly high level of malnutrition observed in Pakistan in the past few years is far worse than what has been observed in the sub-Saharan Africa. Millions of Pakistani children have been identified as stunted, under-weight, and wasting because of hunger, disease, and poverty.
While the future of millions of children is threatened by hunger, the civil and military elites in Pakistan continue to pour undisclosed billions into conventional and nuclear weapons. The oft morbidly obese leaders of the right-wing religious and political parties are also in step with the military establishment as they continue to mobilise the starving masses to support developing Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.In 2006, the United Nations estimated that no fewer than 35 million Pakistanis were malnourished. However, those who put the nation on the path to pursue nuclear weapons never suffered poverty, disease or hunger. For instance, Dr. Qadeer Khan’s daughters did not have to starve even when their father was pursuing prohibitively expensive Uranium enrichment for the weapons program. And whereas Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto promised to eat grass if he had to for pursuing nuclear weapons, he or his kin never did. Between their villas in Europe and hotels in Mali, those who pushed Pakistan into pursuing nuclear weapons did quite well for their personal fortunes.Asma Razzaq, writing in the Business Reorder, reported in October 2011 that Pakistan produces 36 million tons of grains and consumes 28 million tons. Even with a surplus of 8 million tons, 60 per cent Pakistanis reported experiencing food insecurity because of inflated prices of food staples.

Hey, this is progress right, just as they are making smaller and smaller electronic gadgets, Porkistan is leading in the field of jihad technology by making smaller and smaller suicide bombers and jihadis.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 23 Feb 2012 18:28

vikramd wrote:Pakistani held on spying charge

......
he should have been deported and his relatives staying in kolkatta arrested for aiding his criminal and espionage acts.

+1

No need to quote the entire post to add a +1

Thanks, ramana

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 23 Feb 2012 19:12

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 005489.cms
Pak combat jets kill 15 Taliban militants

IOW, Pak combat jets kill 15 people that they don't like and are conveniently labelled taliban.