Indian Missiles and Munitions Discussion

sum · Post by **sum** » 18 Apr 2012 15:15

Vid of A-5. Lots of close up shots and interview with Dr.Saraswat and Avinash Chander!

Clicky

The ticker says that 3-10 MIRV possible in this missile.

BrijeshB · Post by **BrijeshB** » 18 Apr 2012 15:46

arun wrote:Nice!:

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So it seems very obvious from this pic that this conical third stage delivers the true multirole capability and Mach20++ velocity to A5; being the reason they might have made it conical

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V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister, told The Hindu, the launch will mark a “historic day.” “Agni-V is a game-changer and a technological marvel. It is a weapon which can perform multiple functions.” It could be used for anti-satellite capability, for putting micro and nano satellites in orbit and carry multiple warheads.

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I think this A5 Third stage + RV is a real game changer; loitering class of vehicle cruising at hypersonic speeds through exoatmosphere (SPACE) in a depressed trajectory BEFORE reentering with the payload in its terminal phase into the atmosphere. Also who knows this A5 TS+RV might be a technology demonstrator for our space based Kinetic Attack Loitering Interceptor (KALI).

Also without doubt from his statements, its quite obvious that A5 is our first true CARRIER KILLER ICBM

; an answer to the chinese DF31. I also doubt this might be one among the reason why DRDO postponed the A5 test from last year after chinese demonstrated their ASAT and AntiCarrierICBM ambitions. So by doing postponed the tests we might have incorporated all this capabilities into a single A5 that can be used as multirole missile with far greater accuracy of its class in the world

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Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Apr 2012 16:03

the problem is the conical 3rd stage cannot support the ogival nosecone needed for a MIRV payload.

it will need a new 3rd stage for MIRV..compare to any modern icbm
http://images.vunet.org/topol_m_type_ru ... _sosia.jpg

but for a basic MARV with its own fuel store, this big unitary RV maybe needed.

koti · Post by **koti** » 18 Apr 2012 17:25

BrijeshB wrote:I think this A5 Third stage + RV is a real game changer; loitering class of vehicle cruising at hypersonic speeds through exoatmosphere (SPACE) in a depressed trajectory BEFORE reentering with the payload in its terminal phase into the atmosphere.

Something is wrong in this analysis mate.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Apr 2012 17:35

are there twitter updates min my min about the launch readiness review meeting?

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 18 Apr 2012 17:48

shiv wrote:
Atri wrote:
oh my that's a nifty bit of modelling!

As per this animation, only part of the third stage is conical. The rest is cylindrical.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 18 Apr 2012 17:51

From above

The launch of Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile - Agni V, has been postponed and is likely to take place on Wednesday evening.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 18 Apr 2012 17:53

Test postponed, sorry wasn't sure of the news so deleted but repostIng:
http://www.istream.com/news/watch/81842 ... -postponed

member_20067 · Post by **member_20067** » 18 Apr 2012 17:54

venug wrote:Test postponed, sorry wasn't sure if the news so deleted but repostIng:

http://www.istream.com/news/watch/81842 ... -postponed

which Wednesday..? I thought today is Wednesday..

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 18 Apr 2012 17:55

I think, the shroud perhaps is for a single dose.. and half of it should be considered for taking up the 5K* reentry heat. And the model should have corrected for Mirv10, they would expect that be part of more off the third stage that could be housed in the RV.. so, instead of the nose being detached, nose + maal goes for the 10 different focal point. Now, the third stage needs those modifications, if each of the independent maal carrier gets flex nozzle.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 18 Apr 2012 17:58

Yes I am confused too. May be have to wait for confirmation from others.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 18 Apr 2012 18:08

Agni-V set to soar today

In case of any technical delay or problem posed by the weather, the launch is likely to be postponed to Thursday morning.

The pre announced Tests are too testing of the Jingo's heart, no more announcements before tests.

tushar_m · Post by **tushar_m** » 18 Apr 2012 18:13

can anyone tell me about Project Valiant its a 70's n 80's project for india's icbm try

its been 40 year's +- although it was liquid fueled but doesn't it create a base for our scientists for 10000km + icbm after so many improveed technologies
(all info from wiki)

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 18 Apr 2012 18:23

I was hoping the A5 would be launched from a canister right from the first test

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 18 Apr 2012 18:40

The tension is palpable, just waiting.

BrijeshB · Post by **BrijeshB** » 18 Apr 2012 18:46

koti wrote:
BrijeshB wrote:I think this A5 Third stage + RV is a real game changer; loitering class of vehicle cruising at hypersonic speeds through exoatmosphere (SPACE) in a depressed trajectory BEFORE reentering with the payload in its terminal phase into the atmosphere.
Something is wrong in this analysis mate.

Sorry! I mean a manouvering hypersonic TS for ABM evading and range enhancing.

SagarAg · Post by **SagarAg** » 18 Apr 2012 19:00

All the best DRDO for the success of AGNI-V

(I am shaking with excitement

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Sen_K · Post by **Sen_K** » 18 Apr 2012 19:02

Agni-V: Countdown begins, test fire likely at 8.30 pm from Odisha coast

The test fire like to take place at 8.30 pm from a test range off the coast of Odisha, sources said. Earlier it was scheduled at 7.30 pm . but due to bad weather the test has been rescheduled at 8.30 pm.

harish_ch · Post by **harish_ch** » 18 Apr 2012 19:08

Another hour and half of agonizing wait...this is becoming too much to handle for me

...Good luck DRDO

jaladipc · Post by **jaladipc** » 18 Apr 2012 19:12

I see many people performing archanas and abhishekams to their fav deities for the sake of A-V success onleee

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 18 Apr 2012 19:20

Wonder how many spy satellites and submarines of Unkil and Panda would be watching the launch site.
BTW, whats INS Chakra doing today?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Apr 2012 19:21

quietly collecting signatures data from the distinguished members of the audience.

A5 also carries a sunsui dvd player with Don2 DVD that starts playing moment of liftoff and broadcasts to a satellite. Khan and Panda sniffers who breathlessly intercept and analyse it live in the situation room with director level people having their morning black coffee will be treated to king khan smoking ganja and watching his molly dance in the lounge bar ... all the telemetry they want

in any case Cobra ball is supposed to be able to track RV as it plunges down, so they can make own conclusions about trajectory and speed.

the very high level of pre-announcement even for a 1st shot with photos and countdowns is unusual....must be some message behind it.....kind of pulling apart the kimono to show what lies within.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 18 Apr 2012 19:26

Even better to have BigB's voice playing in his usual tone.
Deviyo aur Sajjano
Kaun banega ICBMpathi mein aap sabko swagath hai!

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 18 Apr 2012 19:31

That hindu pic showing a nuclear physicist wearing shirt gives a message too. I am happy nobody complained on the loose strap taking the A5 load on that pic.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 18 Apr 2012 19:33

Don, Ganja, Open Kimono, Singhaji when are you coming up with a thriller?

jaladipc · Post by **jaladipc** » 18 Apr 2012 19:34

I see this postponing by hours is to let the sniffing sats waste their fuel

I believe unkil will be praying for the success of A-V as well, while chinks will be making constant flybys with their sats.

The United States and India held their fifth regional dialogue on the Asia-Pacific region here on Tuesday during which the situation in South China Sea was discussed at length, said government sources

I love the timing of the launch though.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 18 Apr 2012 19:37

didn't you all read the timing of allowing the khans to do search on WW2 plane wreckages inside India?

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 18 Apr 2012 19:39

Dharma R wrote: The United States and India held their fifth regional dialogue on the Asia-Pacific region here on Tuesday during which the situation in South China Sea was discussed at length, said government sources

I love the timing of the launch though.

Would have been funnier if the AV would have a splash down in the South China Sea.

jaladipc · Post by **jaladipc** » 18 Apr 2012 19:39

Dont know why, but for some reason, I was so excited about the launch.
New cold war between India-china brewing soo quick..

And it will take few more extra millions in to extend the range further with composite first stage

jaladipc · Post by **jaladipc** » 18 Apr 2012 19:42

SaiK wrote:didn't you all read the timing of allowing the khans to do search on WW2 plane wreckages inside India?

At the Indo-china border in Indian Arunachal Pradesh

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 18 Apr 2012 19:42

Dharma R wrote:
SaiK wrote:didn't you all read the timing of allowing the khans to do search on WW2 plane wreckages inside India?
At the Indo-china border in Indian Arunachal Pradesh

The Hump? The USAF had lot of activity there in the 40's

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 18 Apr 2012 19:49

Singha wrote:the very high level of pre-announcement even for a 1st shot with photos and countdowns is unusual....must be some message behind it.....kind of pulling apart the kimono to show what lies within.

Agree with you saar.

Contrast this with how A4 was tested as A2-AT only to be renamed after the successful shot! Similar deception wrt Shaurya and Sagarika with all those so called Prithvi tests.
It is as if the DRDO and GoI have invited khans and the chinis to witness and record all they want.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Apr 2012 19:51

yeah they had airbases in assam ... places like jorhat , tezpur, chabua date from those days....mainly DC3 dakotas but other types too like B24 liberators converted to cargo ops iirc. they flew over eastern arunachal to yunnan & sichuan province and back to supply the KMT. lots must have crashed due to bad weather and mountains upto 10,000ft high. I saw a book once about this operation...range after range of rolling hills in the photos with peculiar stone towers that the native people of sichuan erect in their villages and on ridgelines.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008 ... 884964.htm

http://www.wmf.org/project/stone-towers-southwest-china

erected more than a 1000 yrs ago, these noble beasts have seen the coming and going of civilizations, despots and saints, tyrants and reformers, the rise and fall of man....and they shall remain long after we are gone....

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 18 Apr 2012 19:53

Postponed due to bad weather

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 18 Apr 2012 19:59

^^ Aargh!! Source?

I dont want my Lungi deployment go waste! :'(

wasu · Post by **wasu** » 18 Apr 2012 20:04

Ticker on TIMES NOW> Test postponed to thu morning due to bad weather.

SagarAg · Post by **SagarAg** » 18 Apr 2012 20:10

Breaking NEws on Aaj Tak: The maiden test of AGNI-V postponed till tomorrow.
(I took a night-out just for the news of successful launch of AGNI-V. No problem I will also extend it for one more day

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chackojoseph · Post by **chackojoseph** » 18 Apr 2012 20:15

India postpones test of Agni-V ICBM

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 18 Apr 2012 20:20

Ohhhhhh It like waiting for GF on date.

BrijeshB · Post by **BrijeshB** » 18 Apr 2012 20:20

wasu wrote:Ticker on TIMES NOW> Test postponed to thu morning due to bad weather.

If this news is true... then,
chin kies.......and Yank kies... would be calling A5 as...

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