Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29 March 2012

[Rangudu]

On that terrorist-e-Pakistan photu, the guy standing to Hafiz-e-suar's left is FAzlur Rehman Khalil, the ISI's point man for connection with Al Qaeda. TSPA thinks it's sticking it to Unkil by trotting out Khalil just like it is doing to India with Hafiz-e-pig. Time will tell if that was so smart.

[pankajs]

US will not be price ‘gouged’ by Pakistan: Panetta

WASHINGTON: US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta vowed Sunday not to let the United States be “gouged” by Pakistan on the price it charges for overland deliveries of American military supplies to Afghanistan.

[ArmenT]

That is the very tragedy of that nation. They know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

Is that last statement adapted from Alan Perlis' famous quote about Lisp programmers?

A Lisp programmer knows the value of everything, but the cost of nothing.

[pankajs]

They know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

Oscar Wilde on a cynic. Also commonly used for Accountants and Economists.

[Anujan]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-pakist ... 976-3.html
India, Pakistan asked to cut military spending

An India-Pakistan media conclave in Mumbai has urged the two countries to cut their military expenditure and focus more on socio-economic development. "Increasing tensions between India and Pakistan, piling up of arms worth billions of dollars, helps only arms merchants of the US and other countries... and is not in the interests of India and Pakistan," Karachi Press Club president Tahir Hasan Khan said Saturday. Khan, who is leading a 14-member Pakistani media delegation on a week-long visit to Mumbai and Pune, said he and his colleagues saw many homeless people sleeping on the pavements in Mumbai.

Both India and Pakistan should stop supporting terrorists and Both India and Pakistan should explain to the world why Osama was hiding in South Asia.

[sanjaykumar]

WRT Avram's anecdote, I suggest next time one is asked if he is from BD, one states "you look like a tribal". "which tribe are you from?".

Please report here in this thread as I want to know the response.

[RamaY]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-pakist ... 976-3.html
India, Pakistan asked to cut military spending

An India-Pakistan media conclave in Mumbai has urged the two countries to cut their military expenditure and focus more on socio-economic development. "Increasing tensions between India and Pakistan, piling up of arms worth billions of dollars, helps only arms merchants of the US and other countries... and is not in the interests of India and Pakistan," Karachi Press Club president Tahir Hasan Khan said Saturday. Khan, who is leading a 14-member Pakistani media delegation on a week-long visit to Mumbai and Pune, said he and his colleagues saw many homeless people sleeping on the pavements in Mumbai.

Both India and Pakistan should stop supporting terrorists and Both India and Pakistan should explain to the world why Osama was hiding in South Asia.

The India-Pakistan media conclave is nothing but WKK+Islamists.

Anyone talks/thinks/acts in this line is a traitor of Bharat. No two points about it.

[partha]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-pakist ... 976-3.html
India, Pakistan asked to cut military spending

An India-Pakistan media conclave in Mumbai has urged the two countries to cut their military expenditure and focus more on socio-economic development. "Increasing tensions between India and Pakistan, piling up of arms worth billions of dollars, helps only arms merchants of the US and other countries... and is not in the interests of India and Pakistan," Karachi Press Club president Tahir Hasan Khan said Saturday. Khan, who is leading a 14-member Pakistani media delegation on a week-long visit to Mumbai and Pune, said he and his colleagues saw many homeless people sleeping on the pavements in Mumbai.

Both India and Pakistan should stop supporting terrorists and Both India and Pakistan should explain to the world why Osama was hiding in South Asia.

India should liberalize visa process for Pakistanis so that these conclaves can be held not only in Mumbai but all over India.

[Kanishka]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-pakist ... 976-3.html
India, Pakistan asked to cut military spending

An India-Pakistan media conclave in Mumbai has urged the two countries to cut their military expenditure and focus more on socio-economic development. "Increasing tensions between India and Pakistan, piling up of arms worth billions of dollars, helps only arms merchants of the US and other countries... and is not in the interests of India and Pakistan," Karachi Press Club president Tahir Hasan Khan said Saturday. Khan, who is leading a 14-member Pakistani media delegation on a week-long visit to Mumbai and Pune, said he and his colleagues saw many homeless people sleeping on the pavements in Mumbai.

Both India and Pakistan should stop supporting terrorists and Both India and Pakistan should explain to the world why Osama was hiding in South Asia.

We should cut military spending but buy outdated weapons from the Amreekhans onlee. There are no homeless people in Pakistan and none sleep on pavements in Karachi. Root cause of terrorism must be looked into and Islam is religion of peace.

[Kanishka]

US drone attack in Pakistan hits militants

A US drone attack has killed at least five militants in a volatile northwestern Pakistan tribal region near the Afghan border.

The attack took place early on Monday in Hassokhel town, 25km east of Miranshah, the main town of North Waziristan, which is a known stronghold of Taleban and al-Qaeda linked militants.

[arun]

Obsession with Mohammadden concepts regards ”honour” in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan results in what can become a grave miscarriage of justice:

Tribal (in)justice: Six face death for attending mixed gathering

[arun]

Khaled Ahmed in Express Tribune:

Our national security ‘prison’

[Rajdeep]

Panetta: Bin Laden Doctor's Sentence 'Disturbing'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/2 ... 48748.html

Speaking Sunday on ABC's "This Week," the Pentagon chief said the U.S. still has a fight on its hands, but is on the right track.

[With Paki backing ]

“It is so difficult to understand and it’s so disturbing that they would sentence this doctor to 33 years for helping in the search for the most notorious terrorist in our times,” Panetta said. “This doctor was not working against Pakistan, he was working against al Qaeda. And I hope that ultimately Pakistan understands that, because what they have done here … does not help in the effort to try to reestablish a relationship between the United States and Pakistan.”

No shit sherlock ! Even a kid could have finished this paint by numbers book by now.

PS - Do read the comments. I am guilty of trolling there too

[CRamS]

^^ MKB pushing an US endorsed roadmap

He may not be doing it consciously, but in this case his views on bhai chara with TSP suits USA just fine. In other words, he is a "useful idiot" to US, like many lefties and WKKs and assorted Islamists, who would otherwise get the pariah treatment from US.

[shiv]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/india-pakist ... 976-3.html
India, Pakistan asked to cut military spending

An India-Pakistan media conclave in Mumbai has urged the two countries to cut their military expenditure and focus more on socio-economic development. "Increasing tensions between India and Pakistan, piling up of arms worth billions of dollars, helps only arms merchants of the US and other countries... and is not in the interests of India and Pakistan," Karachi Press Club president Tahir Hasan Khan said Saturday. Khan, who is leading a 14-member Pakistani media delegation on a week-long visit to Mumbai and Pune, said he and his colleagues saw many homeless people sleeping on the pavements in Mumbai.

What a naive bunch of buffoons who cannot see one millimeter beyond their own noses.

I agree with them that

1. IndiaPakistan must spend less on defence
2. That IndiaPakistan should spend more on socio-econiomic devlelpment
3. That the arems merchants of the US and other countries are helped by not doing the above two things

But they are too short sighted to understand that a merchant s a merchant. He wil spend enough to attract customers. in this case the merchant "USA" gives free arms to Pakistan making Indians shit in their pants. The pant browning indians then spend billions making America richer while the US gains all the money it gave off as arms ifte to Pakistan. Then Pakistanis start shitting in their pants. They then pay America for more arms.

These blithering nincompoops cannot understand that. Their value is no more that that of a tissue on which you would smear your snot.

[Raja Bose]

Both India and Pakistan should stop supporting terrorists and Both India and Pakistan should explain to the world why Osama was hiding in South Asia.

But there are extremists on both sides and lowering defence budgets will only strengthen the hands of extremists.

[Roperia]

India to explore all options to normalise ties with Pakistan: Krishna

[Roperia]

India to explore all options to normalise ties with Pakistan: Krishna

Has it occurred to these people to "explore the option" of Pakistan returning PoK (and Gilgit-Baltistan) to India, or at the very least, giving these regions independence?

That would go a long way in "normalizing ties between the two nations".

It appears that India is content with what it has even though it officially sticks to its claim that the whole J&K belongs to India. India hasn't tried to alter the status quo. Its goals are modest - to maintain the status quo.

Paki stan on the other hand is not satisfied with what it got after partition. Its a revisionist state. If things stay same, India wins because all India says behind closed doors is to make LoC the IB. That would mean a Paki defeat given its rather ambitious bilateral agenda..

Indian leadership should pursue what it thinks is in India's best interest, but they should simultaneously

1. equip our agencies to prevent ISI sponsored terrorist attacks in India.
2. have well equipped defense forces to respond in case of another mass fatality attack if #1 fails.
3. help the persecuted minorities in Paki stan to stand up to the Punjabi mussalman army.
2. help the ethnic minorities fight the genocide being committed by TSPA.

#3 and #4 should increase the cost for Paki stan to create touble for India. Would that be enough to prevent a sick state from behaving the way it does?

I remain doubtful. May be that's why our leaders behave the way they do and hope that Pakis will get some sense some day.

[Roperia]

Frustrations Grow as U.S. and Pakistan Fail to Mend Ties

Lot of heartburn in DC. Most of the advice given to Zardari is good, but why does the US only gets tough with the Paki civilians? US turned a blind eye to Paki army killing its soldiers fighting in A'stan through proxies for 10 years and instead showered Mush with billions of $s for capture of #3 Al Qaeda guys before every major Mush-Bush meeting. Everyone knows Mr. 10% didn't hide OBL, it was the Paki Army. US doesn't want to confront the problem, instead they want to navigate the current situation with min damage done to its relations with the Punjabi Mussalman army.

[Lilo]

^^ MKB pushing an US endorsed roadmap

He may not be doing it consciously, but in this case his views on bhai chara with TSP suits USA just fine. In other words, he is a "useful idiot" to US, like many lefties and WKKs and assorted Islamists, who would otherwise get the pariah treatment from US.

CRSji,
I'll quote something which has been said in a previous page.

The entire India Pakistan current belligerence has been designed by the US foreign policy over the last 40 years as part of the cold war. They can reverse everything else in their policy accept the deep Islamism and jihad of Pakistan (compared to 70s). This is the greatest dilemma.

[SSridhar]

Dipalpur - TFT

The third king of the dynasty, Firoz Shah Tughlaq (reign 1351-1388), came to this city and visited the shrine. His mother is said to have been from Dipalpur. At that time there was no concept of private property, so all land belonged to the king, who then allotted it to people. Laying his eyes on the vacant land, part of the garden of the tomb, he ordered the construction of this mosque. Because it was constructed on the order of a king, it came to known as the Shahi Masjid.

Over the past six centuries, the Shahi Masjid has become one of the most popular mosques in the city. At the moment, it is the centre of the largest madrassah network in the area. At the entrance there is a banner of Maulana Fazul ur Rehman, a well-known and socially conservative politician from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, head of the political party Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (Fazlur Rehman). The Maulana and his men follow the Deobandi school of thought and look down upon Shiia practices.

[Roperia]

Sectarian attack: 3 killed, 6 injured in Parachinar

At least three people were killed and six were injured when unidentified assailants ambushed a passenger vehicle near Charkhel village in lower Kurram Agency on Monday. All the passengers belonged to the Shia community

...

[Lilo]

^^ what is the political nature of shias in the land of pure??
They rarely seem to pay back their Sunni coreligionists in the same coin...
Many estimate them to be 12 to 15% of the papis... Yet
they don't seem to have representation in paki politics or through exclusive terror tanzims lately.
Is it too much to expect a subaltern blowback to the ongoing onesided killings??

[kenop]

Global citizen Pukistani

ISLAMABAD: Days after the Supreme Court suspended a member of parliament over her dual citizenship, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani has said he was in favour of expatriate Pakistanis getting right to vote and becoming parliamentarians.

There was no restriction on dual citizenship in the constitution, Gilani said.

He pointed out that over 300 councillors, mayors and members of the House of Commons and House of Lords in Britain were Pakistanis, Daily Times reported.

The Pakistani apex court last week suspended Farahnaz Ispahani from the membership of the National Assembly over her dual citizenship as she also hold the US passport.

Ispahani is the wife of former Pakistani ambassador to the US Husain Haqqani and was elected on a Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) ticket.

The court said Ispahani did not inform the election commission about her dual citizenship, according to Geo TV.

"There should be a debate on the issue of dual citizenship and parliament should decide on the issue and legislate as the world has changed," Gilani told a private TV channel.

He said Sunday the expatriate Pakistanis should not be deprived of their right to become members of parliament and voters in Pakistan.

The prime minister said nowhere in the constitution was it written that Pakistanis could not hold dual citizenship and could not become legislators and bureaucrats.

"I am in favour of it that Pakistanis should have right to vote and become members of parliament," he said.

[SSridhar]

Strained relations delay ISI Chief's trip to the US

[Brad Goodman]

Pakistan May Return to IMF for Funds, Says Central Bank Governor

Pakistan may have to return to the International Monetary Fund for financial assistance this year amid an unstable macroeconomic situation, the nation's central bank governor said Monday.

Yaseen Anwar, governor of the State Bank of Pakistan, said Pakistan could meet its overseas debt obligations for now. But looming repayments to the IMF from a program that ended last year are likely to test the nation's finances in the months ahead.

[Brad Goodman]

AOA now we are talking

Pakistan death decree over wedding video

Four women and two men have been sentenced to death in northern Pakistan for singing and dancing at a wedding, police said Monday. Clerics issued a decree after a mobile phone video emerged of the six enjoying themselves in a remote village in the mountainous district of Kohistan, 176 kilometres (109 miles) north of the capital Islamabad.

Pakistani authorities in the area said local clerics had ordered the punishment over allegations that the men and women danced and sang together in Gada village, in defiance of strict tribal customs that separate men and women at weddings.

wait it gets funnier

"It was decided that the men will be killed first, but they ran away so the women are safe for the moment. I have sent a team to rescue them and am waiting to hear some news," he said, adding that the women had been confined to their homes.

[Brad Goodman]

Pakistan woman 'poisons' husband, daughters

Upset over her husband's plans to marry again, a woman in Pakistan's Punjab province allegedly poisoned him and their three minor daughters, leading to the death of two of the girls.


Five members of a family -- Abdul Hafeez, his wife Mumtaz Begum and their daughters, eight-year-old Kainat, five-year-old Komal and seven-month-old Saiqa -- were found unconscious in their Model Town house a few weeks ago, police said.

[pgbhat]

For a hilarious Sunday read, please check out notorious woman abuser Munir Akram's blather.

It seems that Munir mian wants TSP to nuke the US of A if they try another Abbottabad or take out one of TSPA's assets.

wow! yet another confirmation that absolute dumbfvcks lead pacqui diplomacy.

[anupmisra]

Both India and Pakistan should stop supporting terrorists and Both India and Pakistan should explain to the world why Osama was hiding in South Asia.

It was India's beligerence and hard-ass attitude (e.g., Sir Creek, Siachen, Ca$hmere) that drove the peace-loving nation of pa'astan to reluctantly provide temporary respite to OBL, a fellow muslim and member of the ummah. If only India had allowed the world's best cricketers to play in the IPL and had atleast nominated a couple of them to the position of captains, things could have been so much better and rivers of milk, honey and love would flow between the two nations of equal caliber.

[pgbhat]

More dumbfvckery.
How to spot the crackpot — pseudoscience in Pakistan ---- Pervez Hoodbhoy

Then there are hucksters who run companies which freely advertise “magnetised water” for boosting crop yields and making mangoes taste better. Of course, this is laughable nonsense because every scientist knows that water cannot be magnetised.

A recent physics thesis, which resulted in the award of a PhD degree by the University of Balochistan, has stirred some controversy. Guided by a “HEC meritorious professor”, and with publications paid for by the HEC, it was entitled “A quantitative study on chromotherapy”. Several notable Pakistani physicists, who actually know their subject, said the thesis was nonsensical. But after months of trying they still failed to convince the HEC. As a last-ditch effort, I sent a copy to physics Nobel Prize winner (1979), Steven Weinberg, and another to the physics Nobel Prize winner (1988), Jack Steinberger.
Weinberg wrote a point by point criticism which ended up saying: “I am appalled by what I have seen. The thesis shows a lack of understanding of the fundamentals of physics. This thesis is not only unworthy of a PhD, it is positively dangerous, since it might lead patients with severe illnesses to rely on ‘chromotherapy’ rather than on scientific medicine. I find it difficult to understand how this thesis could have earned its author any academic degree”.

Steinberger was equally shocked: “A reasonable physics department should not have accepted anything like this work…. Following world news this past decade, I have been very unhappy about the Pakistani political instability and social problems, but I had imagined that its cultural level was better than what I now see.”

[anupmisra]

Four women and two men have been sentenced to death in northern Pakistan for singing and dancing at a wedding, police said Monday. It was decided that the men will be killed first, but they ran away so the women are safe for the moment.

In pa'astan, weddings are a serious affair and joking/laughing/singing/dancing (all in that order) are strictly prohibited according to the good book. But because the men are nowhere to be found and the women are, therefore, safe, proves how fair the system is. Jannat awaits those who follow the code laid down in the book. Take that you kafir!

[Sriman]

More dumbfvckery.
How to spot the crackpot — pseudoscience in Pakistan ---- Pervez Hoodbhoy
A recent physics thesis, which resulted in the award of a PhD degree by the University of Balochistan, has stirred some controversy. Guided by a “HEC meritorious professor”, and with publications paid for by the HEC, it was entitled “A quantitative study on chromotherapy”. Several notable Pakistani physicists, who actually know their subject, said the thesis was nonsensical. But after months of trying they still failed to convince the HEC. As a last-ditch effort, I sent a copy to physics Nobel Prize winner (1979), Steven Weinberg, and another to the physics Nobel Prize winner (1988), Jack Steinberger.

I looked at the actual thesis and this caught my eye:

DEDICATED TO
KHAWAJA SHAMSUDDIN AZEEMI,
Spiritual Scholar and author of 35
books on Metaphysics including
Colour Therapy, Parapsychology,
Qalander Consciousness and ‘Art &
Science of Sufi Meditation’, presented
in scientific manner encouraged me
to explore the realms of Light and
Colour..

What the fvck is Qalander Consciousness?

[anupmisra]

It seems that Munir mian wants TSP to nuke the US of A if they try another Abbottabad or take out one of TSPA's assets.

I wonder what color the sky is in Munir Akram's world? The only "card" this esteemed (ex) ambassador did not use is "the Islamic one". I guess that's one diplomatic passport holder that will be given the "all-orifice" treatment at a western airport.

[KLNMurthy]

For a hilarious Sunday read, please check out notorious woman abuser Munir Akram's blather.

It seems that Munir mian wants TSP to nuke the US of A if they try another Abbottabad or take out one of TSPA's assets.

Please note that this creature is a best-of-breed paki, a TFTA-e-TFTA. Should give us a good measure of the caliber of these people.

More and more, I am getting convinced that these people embody the essence of what it is to be a bully, and will back down in confusion when faced with real aggression and contempt because their DNA has no template for dealing with it.

[Roperia]

US drone attack in Pakistan hits militants

Drone strike kills four militants in North Waziristan

It was Monday’s second drone attack in the same area after a similar strike early in the morning killed five militants.
Earlier on Monday, at least eight militants were killed when a US drone launched a missile attack in Mir Ali sub-division of North Waziristan Agency
....

[Rangudu]

Does anyone have a count of the number of Dronacharya visits since Chicago? It seems like at least once a day, if not more.

[KLNMurthy]

partha, thanks for that piece of news. I wasn't aware that Chidambaram had earlier rejected the invitation. But, it makes no difference to my conclusion. Let's also wait and see how it develops in the coming weeks. I still remember the SAARC Home Ministers' Conference in c. 2009 when there were similar brave words spoken only to be swallowed hard in the last minute by P.Chidambaram. He also triumphantly announced that TSP had promised to send voice samples very soon. That was 2009 and we are already in the middle of 2012.

OTOH, SM Krishna has been saying that the trust deficit between India & TSP has shrunk and that he will visit them soon. I am not sure if there is coordination among the different branches of GoI.

Yindoo ministers who talk to babus propose, 10 Janpath disposes. That is the coordination.

[RajeshA]

Does anyone have a count of the number of Dronacharya visits since Chicago? It seems like at least once a day, if not more.

Americans need bigger bombs and stoppage of all money payments to Pakistan to get their undivided attention.

[Rahul M]

More dumbfvckery.
How to spot the crackpot — pseudoscience in Pakistan ---- Pervez Hoodbhoy

Then there are hucksters who run companies which freely advertise “magnetised water” for boosting crop yields and making mangoes taste better. Of course, this is laughable nonsense because every scientist knows that water cannot be magnetised.

A recent physics thesis, which resulted in the award of a PhD degree by the University of Balochistan, has stirred some controversy. Guided by a “HEC meritorious professor”, and with publications paid for by the HEC, it was entitled “A quantitative study on chromotherapy”. Several notable Pakistani physicists, who actually know their subject, said the thesis was nonsensical. But after months of trying they still failed to convince the HEC. As a last-ditch effort, I sent a copy to physics Nobel Prize winner (1979), Steven Weinberg, and another to the physics Nobel Prize winner (1988), Jack Steinberger.
Weinberg wrote a point by point criticism which ended up saying: “I am appalled by what I have seen. The thesis shows a lack of understanding of the fundamentals of physics. This thesis is not only unworthy of a PhD, it is positively dangerous, since it might lead patients with severe illnesses to rely on ‘chromotherapy’ rather than on scientific medicine. I find it difficult to understand how this thesis could have earned its author any academic degree”.

Steinberger was equally shocked: “A reasonable physics department should not have accepted anything like this work…. Following world news this past decade, I have been very unhappy about the Pakistani political instability and social problems, but I had imagined that its cultural level was better than what I now see.”

huh, what do joo physicists know ? send the paper to AQK and samar mubarakmand.