Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May 2012

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jun 2012 22:20

This articulation is to provoke the TSP and not to really have India increase its interests in Afghanistan. So nothing will come out of this.

If they really want India in Afghanistan then they should get out first. Not make pious statements

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 05 Jun 2012 22:21

Anujan wrote:
This is the biggest miscalculation the Pakis made. Just counting the money for container transport and thinking that since Pakis container costs are cheaper, they can milk more. Already little birdies tell me that soft money (in the form of USAID ityadi) is getting drastically cut. A whole bunch of RAPEs and RAPETTES are in angst faced with a job loss (all the RAPEs and RAPETTEs that I know and interact with are the NGO/Development types funded by Massa).

IIRC, the NDN does not allow for 'lethal cargo' to go in or out. This mean heavy stuff and that's the key the pakis hold. They would rather the US just abandoned the M1As arty and other goodies or plain gave to them under MNNA.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 05 Jun 2012 22:26

Al-Libi loss would be major blow for al Qaeda

Abu Yahya al-Libi is universally admired in jihadist circles and among the younger generation of al Qaeda leaders. Charismatic, intelligent, a religious scholar - and with the extra qualification of having escaped from U.S. custody in Afghanistan – his loss would be "a cataclysmic blow" to al Qaeda, according to analysts who follow the group.

Read in full...

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Jun 2012 22:47

Jhujar wrote:http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-52728 ... -her:-Asma

Establishment plotting to kill me: Asma

ISLAMABAD: Renowned Pakistani human rights activist Asma Jehangir on Monday night said that the country’s powerful security establishment was planning to get her killed using one of the many jihadi outfits operating in the country. She spoke out on a couple of primetime talk shows; stating that the establishment particularly a sensitive agency – was upset with her for picking up cudgels for the Baloch people and speaking out against the role of the security establishment in the restive province of Balochistan.Ms. Jehangir went public with her fears after an “information-leak from a responsible and highly credible source.” Alarmed by this leak, leading members of Pakistan’s civil society said: “What makes the reported conspiracy to liquidate Asma Jehangir especially serious is, firstly, the environment of target-killings, in which dissident persons’ dead bodies are being dumped all over, and, secondly, the fact that the finger of accusation has been pointed at the extraordinarily privileged state actors.”In a statement issued through the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, they said this is not a conspiracy against one individual alone but a plot against Pakistan’s future as a democratic state. “We wish to make it clear to all and sundry, especially those who preside over the security apparatus, that they must not under-estimate the consequences of any harm being caused to the life of Asma Jehangir.”

Asma Jehangir reiterates to Deutsche Welle that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s notorious Mohammadden Terrorist fomenting and military controlled intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISID / ISI) is plotting to murder her:

DW: You have made some very serious allegations against the Pakistani security agencies, including the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). Are your sources credible?

Asma Jahangir: I am a very responsible person, and I do not usually make these kinds of allegations. I have been threatened many times in my life but I never went to the police and never made any hue and cry about it. I believe now it is my duty to speak up and say what is needed to be said. My sources are extremely reliable.

You have been very critical of the Pakistan Army's role in politics, and also of the military agencies' human rights abuses inside Pakistan. Do you think this could be the reason they would want to eliminate you?

It is true that I have been critical of them but I have never been unduly critical. I am critical of their policies, which I do not agree with. I think that, in whatever I have said - for instance in my role as a lawyer in the missing people's cases - I have repeated what people said in court. I hoped that there would be a change in the mindset of the establishment, which unfortunately doesn't appear to have happened.

You are a prominent human rights activist and lawyer. Do you think the ISI and other security agencies could kill an internationally renowned person like yourself?

Let me remind you of our history. Prominent people have been killed in Pakistan just like in any other country. The difference between Pakistan and other countries is that in Pakistan nobody ever knows who is responsible for these murders. Akbar Bugti (the Baloch nationalist leader) was also a very prominent person. There was a warning that he would be killed. There was a warning that they would go after him. And when he was actually killed, nobody was held responsible. ……………………

From here:

Asma Jahangir: ‘Pakistani intelligence plotted my assassination’

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 05 Jun 2012 22:48

anupmisra wrote:Four more halaled
More green on green action.

Four more Shias lose life in Quetta

May be it is good after all. Once Pakis run out of Shias and Ahmedis they will be really pure and build jennat on our western border. I propose India waits till that point to do its bhaichara so they know what to emulate.

vdutta · Post by **vdutta** » 05 Jun 2012 23:10

Vice guide to karachi.

Must watch
http://youtu.be/xgIl1vmIchA

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 05 Jun 2012 23:27

ramana wrote:How many Al Libbis are there?

This is the 11th Al-Libi to be arrested or killed since 9/11.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Jun 2012 23:35

So TSP offers an Al-Libbi when the going gets tough. Is there a chonology of the 11 Al Libbis and tensions between US and TSP?

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 05 Jun 2012 23:36

Al-libbi = al qaeda #3?

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 05 Jun 2012 23:37

Al Libbi? does it mean he was from Libya? so any possibility 11 such Libyans?

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 05 Jun 2012 23:54

For example another Al-Libi killed in 2009 here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Shaykh_al-Libi

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Jun 2012 03:16

'Taliban had nuclear bomb in 2009'
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-52832 ... mb-in-2009

By AFP

WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obama confronted the ultimate security nightmare early in his administration -- the possibility that the Taliban had acquired a nuclear bomb, according to a new book published Tuesday.The book, "Confront and Conceal" by New York Times chief Washington correspondent David Sanger, says Obama was told in a dramatic Oval Office meeting in early summer 2009 of "ambiguous" evidence supporting such a fear.Intercepted conversations between members of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) led intelligence agencies to warn the group could have a bomb, and the CIA picked up "chatter" of possible attacks on US cities, the book said.But Sanger reports that no one in the intelligence community could be sure about the authenticity of the threat.Some seasoned analysts believed that any danger was more likely to be posed by nuclear material combined into a radiological or "dirty" bomb.Other officials in US spy agencies believed that there were serious doubts about the intelligence, but no one was willing to ignore the fears, amid concern about the security of Pakistan's fast growing nuclear arsenal.
Senior Obama administration officials have previously confided that the fear of a terrorist or insurgent group acquiring nuclear materials is the national security threat most likely to keep them awake at night.
Obama has made halting proliferation a signature of his presidency and was instrumental in the debut of a new global nuclear security summit, which took place for the second time in Seoul in March."There are still too many bad actors in search of these dangerous materials and these dangerous materials are still vulnerable in too many places," he said in Seoul, warning that it would take just a small amount "to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people."According to Sanger's book, Obama decided that with the 2009 case, he could not take any chances and dispatched a nuclear detect and disablement team to the region, though not directly to Pakistan, in case it was needed.After several days of tension, Sanger wrote, the threat dissipated. Pakistan surveyed its arsenal and reported that no nuclear components were missing.One school of thought about the incident suggested that Taliban members had been hoaxed and bought material from a third party that was useless in the manufacture of nuclear weapons.Other officials believed that the US National Security Agency (NSA) had misunderstood the dialect of Taliban members on the intercepts, and been mislead into believing their worst fears, the book said.
However, Sanger quoted one official as saying that facing a possible nuclear crisis so early in Obama's presidency "created a lasting impression on all of us." Since the incident, US officials have held regular meetings with members of Pakistan's nuclear establishment in neutral locations like London and Abu Dhabi to discuss nuclear safety, Sanger wrote.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jun 2012 03:43

Jhujar, Note the year.

Also it could be TSPA trick to get the TTP droned by US. TTP(FATA/WANAwasis) after all is the bad Taliban who are after them.
Instead the move back fired and TSP had to do an inventory count and most likely with proximate verification!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Jun 2012 03:53

IMHO, This was Paki way of testing Obama . Poaqers tried to play Poaker but could not up the bet. Tricked by wrong information from Paki , Baitullah of TTP was Droned in August of the 2009.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jun 2012 03:57

You havent got the date yet!

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Jun 2012 06:58

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan is upset over the peregrination of its “National Bird” or should that be “National Bird of Prey”.

The seventh visit since the Chicago summit results in the US Charge d'Affaires being summoned and protest lodged.

If to be “martyred” is to be “Shaheedised” than should victims of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s National Bird not be termed as having been “Shaheenised”

FO summons US envoy, lodges protest over drone strikes

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 06 Jun 2012 07:39

ramana wrote:You havent got the date yet!

30 March
30 March, Unidentified gunmen attacked and seized the Manawan Police Academy, which is based in Lahore. At least 18 people were later killed and around 95 others injured in the subsequent storming of the building by the Pakistani security forces.

3 July
On July 3, 2009, Taliban militants Saturday claimed responsibility for a military helicopter crash that killed 41 people in the rugged tribal area in the country's north. However, a military spokesman rejected the claim, reiterating that the helicopter had crashed due to a 'technical fault.' 41 security personnel, including 19 personnel of the paramilitary Frontier Crops, 18 regulars from the army and four crew members, on board a military transport helicopter were killed when it crashed in Chapri Ferozkhel area on the border of Khyber and Orakzai tribal regions on Friday afternoon.[3]

October 11
On July 3, 2009, Taliban militants Saturday claimed responsibility for a military helicopter crash that killed 41 people in the rugged tribal area in the country's north. However, a military spokesman rejected the claim, reiterating that the helicopter had crashed due to a 'technical fault.' 41 security personnel, including 19 personnel of the paramilitary Frontier Crops, 18 regulars from the army and four crew members, on board a military transport helicopter were killed when it crashed in Chapri Ferozkhel area on the border of Khyber and Orakzai tribal regions on Friday afternoon.[3]

11 october

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jun 2012 08:55

Jhujar wrote:IMHO, This was Paki way of testing Obama . Poaqers tried to play Poaker but could not up the bet. Tricked by wrong information from Paki , Baitullah of TTP was Droned in August of the 2009.

So that is how Baitullah became Allah ke payare. Recall when he died I felt bad for him.

RamaY, Sorry its a Jhujar only clue. Maybe I got it wrong.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Jun 2012 10:00

Sanger, David E. Confront and Conceal: Obama's Secret Wars and Surprising Use of American Power Random House, Inc..

After the attack, the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, stood in front of the US Senate and delivered remarks that would have likely gotten him fired if he were not already halfway out the door. Mullen had been Obama’s main interlocutor with the Pakistani military, but now, frustrated that more than twenty visits to the country had brought little change, he called the Haqqani network a “veritable arm” of the ISI.3

When Obama heard that his top military officer had made that charge in public, he was outraged—Mullen, he thought, was trying to save his reputation, to go out of office in a blaze of anger at the Pakistani military officers he had negotiated with for years. Obama didn’t contend that Mullen was wrong, although the evidence that the ISI was directly involved in the attacks on Americans was circumstantial at best. But he knew that the accusation, in such a public setting, would trigger another round of recriminations with the country that had become the ally from hell.

Donilon opened the meeting where Mullen had left off. “The ultimate responsibility of the president of the United States is to protect Americans,” Donilon said in his clipped Rhode Island accent, reiterating something Obama had said to Kayani one day in the Roosevelt Room of the White House. Either Pakistan was going to deal with the Haqqani network or the Americans would. The message just sat there for a moment. Donilon went on. Why, he asked, would a man like Kayani, who grew up in the disciplined world of the Pakistani military, let a group of thugs hijack Pakistan’s national security policy by waging war on America from inside its borders?

Then came the bottom line: “I know you want a guarantee from us that we won’t undertake unilateral operations in your country again,” a reference to the bin Laden raid. “I can’t give you that.” If seventy Americans had died in the bomb attack in Wardak the previous month, rather than just suffered injuries, “we wouldn’t be having this conversation,” Donilon said. It was a not-so-veiled threat that Obama would have been forced to send Special Operations Forces into Pakistan to attack the Haqqani network—national pride and sovereignty be damned. “We’re at a crossroads,” Donilon concluded. “If this continues, you’ve really turned your fate over” to the Haqqani network.

It was a conversation tinged with wariness on all sides, reflecting the distrust that permeated a relationship fractured by decades of betrayals. To Kayani, the three men in front of him represented a United States that had abandoned Pakistan before—during its wars with India, after the Soviets left Afghanistan, after Pakistan’s nuclear tests. And to the Americans, the fact that Kayani spent five and a half hours blowing the refined smoke of his Dunhills into their faces said it all. The smoke cloud lingered, enveloping the men in a fog.

Kayani understood the American paranoia about a Pakistani meltdown, and he took advantage of it—which is one of the reasons he was the shrewdest survivor in the brutal Pakistani power game. As commander of the Pakistani military, he excelled at entertaining a parade of American visitors—senators, ambassadors, special envoys—who would arrive to lecture him about what Washington would no longer tolerate. Kayani would listen, take another drag on his cigarette, and try to get them to imagine how vulnerable both countries would be to terror groups if Washington ever made good on its threats to cut off Pakistan from the flow of money and arms the United States had been providing to fight terrorists. As he often told his own staff, the Americans talked a tougher game than they walked. Scratch beneath America’s veneer of threats to cut off billions in aid or escalate strikes inside Pakistan’s borders, and you would find a superpower that simply could not afford to risk breaking off relations. Not while Pakistan controlled the supply routes into Afghanistan, which—when tensions escalated—it shut off to remind Washington that its troops wouldn’t last long without food and bullets. Not while Pakistan was a brew of 180 million people—nine times the population of Afghanistan—and home to several brutal insurgencies and the fastest-growing nuclear arsenal on earth.

As Lute often reminded his colleagues, “At the end of the day, breaking off relations with Pakistan or containing it might feel satisfying, but the next day you have to wake up and deal with them.”

The three Americans told Kayani they had incriminating evidence about the latest two bold attacks against Americans in Afghanistan. Donilon had already spent hours poring through the intelligence, pressing the CIA and the National Security Agency—which routinely taps the ISI’s cell phones—for every scrap that would tie members of Pakistan’s elite spy service to the insurgents who had detonated car bombs and laid siege to the embassy. The case was circumstantial, as always. There was ample evidence that the ISI and others in the Pakistani military supplied the Haqqanis and gave them a free pass to cross the Pakistan-Afghanistan border along its most remote, dangerous stretches. But there was no smoking gun that the ISI had actually ordered the attack.

Always the lawyer, Donilon began making his case. He had a habit of starting each new argument with the phrase “Here’s the deal,” and then hitting three or four points. This time, Donilon listed the specific intelligence the United States had gathered. He described the Haqqani houses, places where the United States believed the attacks were plotted. He pointed to the madrassa in Miranshah—a religious school where extremist ideology was taught—that fed the Haqqanis with fresh recruits. The school, the United States had often reminded Kayani, is just a few kilometers from a Pakistani military outpost. Lute had often joked that if the Pakistani troops ever ventured out of their base for physical training, they could jog to the madrassa, touch its walls, and jog back.

Kayani took in the evidence silently, without pushing back. Well, Donilon thought, at least we’re not bullshitting each other. He knows we have the goods—he knows that I’m as informed an intelligence official as there is in the world.

“We will undertake whatever steps we need to protect our forces,” Donilon said. “We would prefer to act jointly. But if you refuse”—he could have said, if you agree and do nothing—“we will come in and do what we have to do.” He did not need to add that the American model of success in this regard was Abbottabad, where seventy commandos infiltrated Pakistani airspace, landed forty miles from the Pakistani capital, killed bin Laden and his few protectors, and swept up his computers—all without setting off Pakistan’s defenses. The unspoken message was, “We can do it again.”

Kayani took another drag on the cigarette and blew a little more smoke. Donilon, Lute, and Grossman knew what that meant. The Pakistanis had no intention of turning over or taking on the Haqqani network; it was their insurance policy for the moment when the Americans would inevitably leave.

And when Donilon, Lute, and Grossman got home—a seventeen-hour flight aboard a military jet—they knew their first stop: the dry cleaners. Getting the fumes out of their suits would be easy enough. Detoxifying the American relationship with Pakistan would be much more difficult.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jun 2012 10:11

The Sanger book is psy-ops before the 2012 elections to portray a tough US leader. It also suffers from Orientalism: the depcition of the wily orient that leads the innocent West astray!!!

Man they still suffer from stereo-types.

in spite of all that talk or rhetoric, the Haqqanis are still around and US pays the TSP tribute or rather jiziya!

All this makes the book garam hawa!

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 06 Jun 2012 10:11

Continuing but this could be moved to Af-Pak thread.

FOR OBAMA, THERE was a bigger question lurking beneath Lute’s metrics: Was he slowly slipping into another Vietnam? It was a question that Donilon and Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s first chief of staff, had debated endlessly: One weekend evening, after a family dinner at Donilon’s house, Emanuel had seen a copy of Gordon M. Goldstein’s Lessons in Disaster on the table in Donilon’s library. A short book, it was a study of how a series of small bad decisions in Washington had slipped into a huge one called Vietnam. Emanuel had feared that Obama could be headed down the same path that LBJ took, in which a war abroad undercut his efforts to remake the country at home. The book soon became a must-read in the West Wing. What jumped out from the volume, Donilon told visitors, was that Kennedy and Johnson never tested the question of whether Communism was as monolithic as it was portrayed in America at that time. It was time to rethink similarly fundamental questions about al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Soon, several presidential historians received an invitation for a private dinner at the White House. As they waited in a reception room for the president to arrive, they realized that almost everyone on the short invitation list had written about Johnson and his struggle to understand what he was getting into in Vietnam.

“The analogy of Lyndon Johnson suggests itself very profoundly,” Stanford University historian David M. Kennedy told my colleague Peter Baker. “He needs to worry about the outcome of that intervention and policy and how it could spill over into everything else he wants to accomplish.” Robert Caro, who is still writing the definitive multivolume biography of Johnson, knew that Johnson had debated Vietnam in the same room. “You had such an awareness of how things can go wrong,” he said.13

The president listened, silently. “It was very typical of Obama,” said a historian who was present at several such sessions. “You knew he was listening, but he held his counsel and mostly asked questions. You never knew quite what he was thinking.” Obama understood that no analogy was a perfect fit; as Ernest May, the late Harvard historian, often warned, “History does not repeat itself, but it rhymes.” The attraction of straight-line analogies had frequently led presidents astray. America went into Vietnam to stop the spread of Communism; it went into Afghanistan because its territory had been used to plot and launch a direct attack on the United States. The Vietcong had no reach overseas, Obama knew; al-Qaeda does, and elements of other insurgent groups would soon prove they did too. But al-Qaeda was not in Afghanistan anymore; it was in Pakistan.

One lesson of Vietnam did stick out that evening: quagmires often emerge not from a single, big miscalculation but from a series of smaller decisions, often when war goals are fuzzy. Obama knew that to fulfill his campaign promise to focus on the Afghan War, he had little choice but to accede to the Pentagon’s longstanding requests for more troops. But despite his campaign pledges, he was growing skeptical about what could be accomplished by doubling the size of the force. “I think he hated the idea from the beginning,” one of his closest advisers told me early in 2012. “He understood why we needed to try, to knock back the Taliban. But the military was ‘all in,’ as they say. And Obama wasn’t.”

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Jun 2012 10:13

May Baitullah be granted Jannat.Regardless of what they say, He was man of Honor ,Dignity and peace thus pain in the Mush of Poaqstan.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Jun 2012 10:30

ramana wrote:Jhujar< I guess you forgot the friendly visitors?

No i wont !!

. Luky, I was just dropping bye for the long weekend and it made the long drive worthwhile.Jangal mei mor nacha,kisne dekha ?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Jun 2012 10:35

http://tribune.com.pk/story/389481/mili ... -budgeted/

As opposed to a stated spending of Rs545 billion, or one-sixth of the federal budget, Pakistan may actually be spending around Rs913billion, or 31% of next year’s Rs2.96 trillion budget, on defence. Besides the overt budget, an additional amount will be provided to the military out of its share in the Coalition Support Fund (CSF), expected to be disbursed by the United States, and services fees from the United Nations on account of military personnel involved in peacekeeping missions.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 06 Jun 2012 10:58

Now this 31% or 16% is stated, apart for other stuff in general headings without stating the fact that 54% is interest. so effectively once INterest and Defence spending is done say 35% +54% there is nothing left.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Jun 2012 11:00

Pakis never cease to amaze me. If you read that article further, you see that they treat CSF as some kind of war bounty that is split between army and civvies without writing it in the books. Same goes for money earned through UN peacekeeping operations.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Jun 2012 11:23

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2012_pg7_6
Turns out the anti-corruption crusader, the Chief Justice of Pakistan (who forced Groper to write to Swiss authorities to reopen cases against Zardari and then convicted him for contempt of court when Groper refused) has a son who involved in bribery and shady deals. The respected Chief Justice dons the mantle of the Chief Qazi, refuses to recuse himself from the case and will judge his own son -- King Solomon style.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jun 2012 12:51

Foreign investors in Pakistan: Senate panel for curbs on repatriation of wealth

ISLAMABAD:

The government may bring drastic changes to its policy that allows foreign investors unrestricted repatriation of wealth, as a parliamentary committee, discussing next year’s budget, has hinted at setting a time limit and placing curbs on foreign firms having majority stake in local companies.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jun 2012 14:50

Report: Pakistan hindering efforts to curb Taliban IEDs

WASHINGTON – Pakistan is impeding U.S. attempts to curb the flow of bombmaking materials from Pakistan to Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan, a report by the Government Accountability Office obtained by USA TODAY shows.

The report, which has not been officially released, focused on State Department efforts to measure efforts aimed at fighting improvised explosive devices (IEDs) in Pakistan. But the report quotes U.S. officials accusing the Pakistani government of delaying visas for American officers working on the problem.

"U.S. agencies have encountered ongoing challenges to their efforts to assist Pakistan, such as delays in obtaining visas and in the delivery of equipment," the report says.

Sen. Robert Casey, D-Pa., has led an effort to limit fertilizer made in Pakistan from reaching Afghanistan, where it is turned into explosives.

"It's particularly outrageous," Casey said. "The Pakistanis need to be held accountable. We can't allow that to persist."

IEDs are the top killer of U.S. troops in neighboring Afghanistan, according the Pentagon's Joint IED Defeat Organization. JIEDDO estimates that 83% of IEDs used in attacks on U.S. troops are made with fertilizers produced in Pakistan. IED attacks have increased slightly over the 12 months ending April 30, the most recent data available. There were 16,165 IED incidents over that period, a 2% increase.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Jun 2012 17:41

ramana wrote:The Sanger book ......suffers from Orientalism: the depcition of the wily orient that leads the innocent West astray!!!

Partly true Ramana. Orientalism is a racist term in today's west. How about "blinkered geopoliticism"?

Bottom line, it is a work of fiction interwoven with facts based on current/recent events. However! In a gripping and an artful way (the excerpts had me reading every word), the book does try to lay bare what we all imagine of pakistan. That a general of the paki army is the main interlocutor between "relative" stability and "total" chaos in L'affaire du Pakistan. If it is slow realism bearing fruit for the west to finally taste, so be it.

To counter the phrase "The Meek Shall Inherit the earth", I believe "The Slow Shall Lead the Traffic". Atleast in the case of pakistan, the traffic is moving, albeit slowly.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Jun 2012 17:42

Aditya_V wrote:Now this 31% or 16% is stated, apart for other stuff in general headings without stating the fact that 54% is interest. so effectively once INterest and Defence spending is done say 35% +54% there is nothing left.

Theres always abundant grass and free air.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jun 2012 18:11

US to keep up attacks on al-Qaida in Pakistan: Leon Panetta

NEW DELHI: Pentagon chief Leon Panetta said on Wednesday that the US would continue to attack al-Qaida in Pakistan following the killing of the group's number two Abu Yahya al-Libi.

"We have made it very clear that we are going to continue to defend ourselves," Secretary of defence Panetta said when asked about drone strikes in Pakistan during a trip to India.

He said the sovereignty of the United States was also at stake because the militants who planned the September 11 attacks were in Pakistan's tribal areas.

"The leadership of those who were involved in planning this attack are located in Pakistan, in the FATA," he said.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jun 2012 18:14

US drone can be shot down with Hamza missile: Dr AQ Khan

Father of Pakistan nuclear programme, Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan has said that US drones can be shot down with Hamza missile. While addressing lawyers of Lahore bar, the nuclear scientist said that Pakistan was full of natural resources but the leaders had no good motive. He said that Pakistan had drone technology and added that drone could be shot down with Hamza missile. Dr AQ Khan said that if Pakistan can produce atomic weapon than it was not difficult to end its energy crisis. “The prime minister should have been disqualified when convicted,” he said.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 06 Jun 2012 18:46

Dr A.Q Khan has Anza Missile now become Hamza missile or is Hamza the new Haft XXXX of the Ghazis?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Jun 2012 20:03

SSridhar and shyamd, Take a look at the format of this blog and see if you can improve your sites get more eyes. Need to appeal to the visual also.

ramana

PS: Jamwal please do take a look also

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Jun 2012 20:21

pankajs wrote:Dr AQ Khan

So, in a brief expanse of one paragraph, here's what photochor said:

Pa'stan can shoot down US drones with Hamza missile
Pa'stan was full of natural resources
Pa'stani leaders had no good motive
Pa'stan had drone technology
Pa'stan can produce atomic weapon
Pa'stan can end its energy crisis

Is there anything Pa'stan can not do or does not have?

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 06 Jun 2012 20:25

Rangudu wrote:
ramana wrote:How many Al Libbis are there?
This is the 11th Al-Libi to be arrested or killed since 9/11.

Note to self: Don't change your name to 'Al-Libi', or hang around people calling themselves 'Al-Libi'. It's probably a bad idea.

Heard on the grapevine: The most popular baby name in North Waziristan presently is 'Not Al- Libi'.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 06 Jun 2012 20:36

Pakistan and Taliban acused of poisoning Afghan schoolchildren

Afghan intelligence on Wednesday accused Pakistani spies of poisoning schoolgirls as authorities battle to halt a string of alleged attacks that have sown panic in parts of the north.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 06 Jun 2012 20:39

Father of Pakistan nuclear programme, Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan has said that US drones can be shot down with Hamza missile. While addressing lawyers of Lahore bar, the nuclear scientist said that Pakistan was full of natural resources but the leaders had no good motive. He said that Pakistan had drone technology and added that drone could be shot down with Hamza missile. Dr AQ Khan said that if Pakistan can produce atomic weapon than it was not difficult to end its energy crisis. “The prime minister should have been disqualified when convicted,” he said.

This is the same guy who apologized to their nation about his 'nuclear smuggling' and was under house arrest. Now he grew two ba11$ and wants to pontificate how prime minister should be disqualified.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Jun 2012 21:34

Chinese locomotives chug into trouble in Pakistan

Islamabad, June 6 (IANS) The Chinese are not happy over conditionalities in a tender floated by the Pakistan Railways for procuring 150 new locomotives as this excludes them from the competition, a leading Pakistani daily said Wednesday.

An editorial in Dawn said Chinese suppliers met railway officials Monday and "politely conveyed their resentment over the specifications of locomotives that exclude them from the competition and facilitate their rival, an American company".

"They have also warned that their expulsion (albeit on technical grounds) from the bid would raise the cost of procurement of locomotives," it said.