Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May 2012

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 18 Jun 2012 16:52

Have you forgotten 440 Hz music being beamed through TV shows and movies.

Lightbulb Moment: Lawhore-Villa-Kuwait. Indians are supplying electricity to Pakistan just to ensure that the anti-Islamic Hindu propaganda through their TV shows and movies is not interrupted.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 18 Jun 2012 16:59

Pak ties in turmoil, US holds up payments

The US Congress is yet to "notify" the reimbursement of USD 400 million from the Coalition Support Fund (CSF) and Pakistan is unlikely to receive the payment by June 30, when the current fiscal year will end.
The delay will contribute to a surge in the fiscal deficit by 0.2 per cent, taking it to 7.5 per cent of GDP for the current financial year.

As a result, the budget deficit will cross 7.5 per cent of the GDP, including liabilities of Rs 391 billion on account of the power and commodities sector, the sources said.

How much is the TSPA smoking up in this budget ?

"We are not going to delete this due amount from our books with the expectation of receiving this amount till the last moment.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 18 Jun 2012 19:28

Rajdeep and we know Pakitan Offical GDP has been inflated and reassessed a few years down the line, like thier current poverty figures are always 17% while poverty figures are reassed at 45% by the next government. so the Budget Defecit may actually be 10% of GDP.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 18 Jun 2012 20:09

^ someone needs to explain this to the abdul paki and any paklurkers with some madarassa math logic and maybe then they will understand what sort of wool their army pulls on their eyes. But then again their green attitude will still not stop them from hating the Hindo Baniya Hindostan and the dreams of a Gazwa e Hind.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 18 Jun 2012 22:41

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120618/main3.htm

Artillery Btn moved to LoC as Pak shells Poonch posts again
Fourth truce violation in 5 days; soldier wounded
Ravi Krishnan Khajuria & Darshan Bharti/TNS

Jammu/Poonch, June 17
Pakistani troops today violated ceasefire for the fourth time in the last five days and pounded Indian posts along the Line of Control (LoC) with mortar shells in Poonch district, promoting the Army to move an artillery battalion to forward posts in Krishna Ghati (KG) sector.

Reliable sources told The Tribune that an artillery battalion has been moved from Mendhar to effectively check possible infiltration attempts by militants from across the border besides dealing with frequent “misadventures of a hostile neighbour.”

The fresh violation, 16th this year, resulted in injuries to Sepoy Kundan Singh of 3 Grenadiers.

“Last night, around 10.15 pm, Pakistani troops opened heavy fire on our posts in KG sector using mortars and automatic weapons. Initially, the intensity was low but from 11.15 onwards, they started firing mortars, forcing us to give them an effective response,” said an Army spokesperson. The exchange of fire continued till 12.30 am.

At least 12 Indian posts were targeted by 653 Mujahid Regiment of the Pak Rangers, who used rocket launchers, heavy machine gun and UBGL grenades, said official sources. “Pak Rangers opened fire from Daku, Battal, Roza and Pimple posts opposite KG sector,” they added. The Pakistani troops have so far violated the truce four times since June 13 resulting in killing of two soldiers Lance Naik Harvinder Singh and BSF jawan PK Mishra. Three soldiers have been injured.

“In the last five days, Pakistani troops have been continuously targeted our forward posts. Therefore, the Army, which exercised maximum restraint to de-escalate the situation, has now moved an artillery battalion from Mendhar to forward posts in KG sector,” revealed sources.

Yesterday, the Pak Rangers had refused to attend a crucial flag meeting at Chakan-da-Bagh trade point.

According to sources, the Pakistan Army and the ISI have moved militants very close to the LoC with an aim to help them cross over to the Indian side. However, they have not succeeded and were targeting forward Indian posts in sheer frustration.

Heavy firing from across the border created panic among the residents of Sagra, Balnoi, Gani and Dabraj villages close to the LoC in KG sector. These villages have a population of over 10,000.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 18 Jun 2012 22:46

Routine onlee. Our soldiers died but we will do nothing. Meeting will be held and then exchange of sweets. No worries, be happy!

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 18 Jun 2012 22:52

2 paisa suggestion. It could be good time to hit hard at weak points when pakis refused to organize flag meeting. Can't trust pakis with any system and understanding.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 18 Jun 2012 23:11

vishvak wrote:2 paisa suggestion. It could be good time to hit hard at weak points when pakis refused to organize flag meeting. Can't trust pakis with any system and understanding.

Yes we should hit them hard with supplies of Oil, electricity and other goodies, apart from withdrawing our armies from Siachen etc so that they don't get hit unnecessary by religiously sanctioned festivities of the Paki army and give them a bad name.

I am sure our Govt will do all that is necessary to bolster the necessary confidences in this case so that the Pakis are left reeling.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 18 Jun 2012 23:18

Paki Awaam Time Pass
Power-starved turn violent

Braving sweltering heat, power-starved people staged violent protests against load shedding in many cities of the country on Sunday

In Lahore, up to 18 hours of load shedding was reported in most parts of the city due to closure of 15 out of 39 grid stations

“discriminating against Punjab”

In Faisalabad...they were braving 20 to 22 hours of power outages a day and were also without water

Reports from Peshawar, Kohat and Mansehra said that people are forced to brave up to 20 hours of load shedding a day.

...In Chichawatni where protesters attacked Saddar Police Station, set on fire seven motorcycles of police and broke the gate of its prisons room. Seven accused in the prisons room fled, taking advantage of a clash between the protesters and police.

Waziristan had been without electricity for the past three days

All in all, a relatively peaceful day in the pureland.
Jor sey bolo: Pa'astan ka matlab kya? Na paisa, na bijli, na pani, na hawa.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 18 Jun 2012 23:27

Comedy Time
Pakis sing to "The Stooges’ tunes.

No, not this signature tune or this Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 18 Jun 2012 23:47

Google refuses to delete YouTube videos 'mocking' Pakistan's army: Report

According to The BBC, Google also refused to delete six YouTube videos that satirised Pakistan's army and senior politicians.

The order had come from the government of Pakistan's Ministry of Information Technology.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 18 Jun 2012 23:57

Another wake-up call for Paki lovers in Bollywood. Singing and acting is Haram in the land of the pure.

http://www.aaj.tv/2012/06/famous-pashto ... -murdered/

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 19 Jun 2012 00:00

time to save those videos in case....

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 19 Jun 2012 01:13

Bit offtopic, but... DDM disappoints me again. What is the point of basing a report on a report that the BBC did, when the source info is readily available to anybody?

http://www.google.com/transparencyrepor ... overnment/

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 19 Jun 2012 02:26

Unlike Pakistan, Afghanistan supports artists: Hamayoon Khan

Rohit_K · Post by **Rohit_K** » 19 Jun 2012 02:46

Can someone authenticate the veracity of this telegram exchange between Abdul Kalam Azad and jinnah?

This seems to be a picture taken of a page from a paki school textbook, so they might have doctored it.

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 19 Jun 2012 03:41

Power riots in Paki Punjab. Petrol pumps, personal vehicles, govt. property destoryed; clashes with police etc.

I have a feeling that the defense housing must be getting 24*7 electricity supply. LaWhori Pakis must ransack the Military Cantonments if they want their voices heard.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 19 Jun 2012 04:47

Looks like that people are rioting not in Lahore or Rawalpindi but in smaller cities like Lyallpur (faisalbarbad), Montgomery (Galatval), Multan, Kasur, etc.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Jun 2012 05:28

Gilani Poaqwani
Mashriq, Maghrib, Shamal & Janoob
Jidhar dekho , andhkar hi andhkar!!
Andhere me Poaaq baithe hai
Nazar un par MMS dalo
Bijli de dho humko
O India walo ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhi6aSrKo1w

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 19 Jun 2012 05:58

Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Jun 2012 06:07

Riaz fears for life, moves SC for security
Riaz ki Tyari Hui Bum Bum Bum,jannat Qarib hui Dhum by Dhum

ISLAMABAD: Former chairman of Bahria Town, Malik Riaz has demanded protection from the Supreme Court, claiming that his life is in grave danger, DawnNews reported.Riaz conveyed his concerns and demands in a plea submitted to the apex court on Monday.The business tycoon claims that during the previous hearing when he had appeared in court, some lawyers had threatened him with dire consequences.Riaz fears that he may be attacked during the upcoming hearing on June 21 when he has to appear before the SC judges again.The five-page application also alleges that a ‘planned campaign’ is being carried out against Riaz in the electronic and print media, which has raised the risks to his life.Riaz argues in his application that he is a tax-paying Pakistani citizen and should be provided with complete security during the court hearings so that he may continue to contest his case in the apex court freely.Malik Riaz is a central character in the financial scam popularly dubbed by the media as ‘Familygate’, which also involves Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry’s son Arsalan Iftikhar. Riaz has accused the CJ’s son of receiving Rs340 million from him on the promise of getting cases pending in the apex court settled in his favour.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Jun 2012 06:10

Khi target killing toll hits 11 in 24hrs

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-54925 ... -in-24hrsl

KHACHRAI: A total of 11 people including a woman have been killed in separate incidents of violence as targeted attacks continued in the provincial capital on Monday, Geo News reported.According to details, one person was killed while seven others were injured including a woman when unknown armed assailants opened fire on an Awami National Party's (ANP) camp set up in Safoora Goth to protest the killing of one of its leaders Liaquat Bangash.The injured woman later succumbed to her wounds and expired at a local hospital.Two political workers were killed by unknown gunmen in Sherpao Colony of Landhi. Another person was gunned down in the Site area.Two people including a woman were killed in the Gulistan-e-Jauhar area. Meanwhile, three bodies of unidentified men were discovered from an abandoned vehicle in Miran Naka area of Lyari. Police said the deceased were subjected to torture before they were murdered.Violence has continued in the metropolis for the last several weeks and deteriorated on Sunday after the body of a political worker was discovered in the Gulistan-e-Jauhar area. At a news conference Sunday, the acting additional IG police announced he had given shoot on sight orders to his force in a bid to improve the law and order situation in the city.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Jun 2012 06:26

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9 ... biding-sin

Our abiding sin
ZaPhar HillaLey

Why, then is Pakistan not taking action against the Haqqani Taliban sheltering in Fata rather than risk a hiatus in relations with America? And the short answer is that the Pakistani military does not possess the requisite wherewithal in terms of resources, men and equipment to take on the Haqqanis even assuming the political will had existed. For a start, Pakistan’s eastern front (facing India) would have to be further denuded of troops. Besides, all the Taliban would have to do to avoid giving battle is to relocate. In other words, it’s not so much a matter of Pakistan not doing what it can do easily but sensibly refusing to do what is virtually impossible and preferring not to say so. Moreover, the Haqqani Taliban do not enjoy ‘sanctuaries’ in North Waziristan, in the sense that they have a ‘safe haven’ where they can put their feet up and enjoy a normal life while planning the next attack on Isaf.Had that been the case they would have been ‘droned’ into oblivion. The ‘safe haven’ allegation is mostly a ruse that has been successfully and skillfully exploited to explain Isaf’s military failures. What do exist in North Waziristan, however, are groups of anti-American insurgents using the terrain to hide in an environment that is marginally though not appreciably safer. Of course, Pakistan could make life more difficult for them, though never enough to make up for the failure of Isaf to interdict movement and supplies of the Haqqani’s to and fro across the undefined border and all the way up to Kabul despite a huge troop presence.ut a far more important reason for Pakistan’s stance is that Fata cannot be successfully invaded and controlled by force. Fata is a mini Afghanistan, in other words, it is unstable, fractious and ultimately ungovernable except with the consent of the populace. Efforts to occupy Fata will end in disaster. It will turn the tribes of Fata, and in the adjoining areas spanning the Pak-Afghan border, against Pakistan and pose a much bigger threat to our integrity than America ever can. In retrospect our abiding sin was to ask to be treated as a partner by the US and, when that did not happen, to accept the role of a surrogate; and while giving the impression that we had been bought, for refusing to stay bought. Be that as it may, America stands on the cusp of failure in Afghanistan. The arrogance of power has lost its punch in e]Afghanistan and blaming Pakistan, bombing Pakistan and killing Pakistanis is hardly the answer for America’s woes.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 19 Jun 2012 06:54

Pak ceasefire violation halts cross-LoC trade, bus service

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 19 Jun 2012 06:56

Something is cooking!! Ceasefire violation across the Poonch Sector is always suspicious!!!

arun · Post by **arun** » 19 Jun 2012 07:08

L.A.Times Op-Ed on the relationship of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan with the Amir Khan’s by academic Andrew J. Bacevich:

Divorcing Pakistan

Simply put, the interests of Washington and Islamabad do not align. Neither do our preferred forms of paranoia.

By Andrew J. Bacevich
June 19, 2012

The history of U.S.-Pakistani relations is one of wild swings between feigned friendship and ill-disguised mistrust. When the United States needs Pakistan, Washington showers Islamabad with money, weapons and expressions of high esteem. Once the need wanes, the gratuities cease, often with brutal abruptness. Instead of largesse, Pakistan gets lectures, with the instruction seldom well received. …………………………..

But seldom has a marriage of convenience produced greater inconvenience and consternation for the parties involved. Simply put, U.S. and Pakistani interests do not align. Worse, neither do our preferred forms of paranoia. Pakistanis don't worry about Islamists taking over the world. Americans are untroubled by the prospect of India emerging as a power of the first rank. ……………………….

The Obama administration now seems ready to declare this troubled union (once again) defunct. With Pakistan no longer quite so crucial in an Afghan context, and still unable to explain how Osama bin Laden found sanctuary on Pakistani soil, evidence that this erstwhile U.S. ally remains in cahoots with various and sundry terrorist organizations has become intolerable. ……………….

Yet there is a back story to the crumbling relationship that goes beyond U.S. frustration with Pakistani double-dealing (and Pakistani anger over American highhandedness). A larger reorientation of U.S. policy is underway. Occurring in two spheres — the Greater Middle East and East Asia — that reorientation reduces Pakistan in Washington's eyes to the status of strategic afterthought. ……………………

L.A.Times

gkriish · Post by **gkriish** » 19 Jun 2012 07:29

chaanakya wrote:Last page of previous thread.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 8#p1288578

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The following links are background articles on Pakistan.

UNDERSTANDING PAKISTAN:

Jinnah's Pakistan: An Interview with MA Jinnah, and how the Pakistan of Yesterday is the Pakistan of Today
http://iref.homestead.com/Messiah.html

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/012809Tellis.pdf

The above is the testimony of Ashley Tellis on Jan 28th 2009, to the US Senate Homeland Security Committee on LeT's global role. It is a good articulation of LeT's past and future trends.

Know Your Pakistan
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... /Shiv.html

The Monkey Trap: A synopsis of Indo-Pak relations
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... ayyam.html

PAKISTAN-FAILED STATE: an ebook that owes its origin and existence to BRF.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/EBOOKS/pfs.pdf

Whither Pakistan ? Growing Instability and Implications for India: an IDSA e-Book, July 2010
http://idsa.in/book/WhitherPakistan

A landmark article that demolishes myths built up about Pakistan
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers8/paper710.html

Pakistani Role in Terrorism Against the U.S.A
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... yanan.html

Pakistani Education, or how Pakistan became what it is: Curricula and textbooks in Pakistan
http://www.sdpi.org/publications/public ... 86-34.html#

Making Enemies, Creating Conflict: Pakistan's Crises of State and Society. A book written by Pakistanis on Pakistan.
http://members.tripod.com/~no_nukes_sa/Contents.html

Should Pakistan Be Broken Up? by Gul Agha
http://pakistan70.tripod.com/gul.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part I
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... art-1.html

Prof. Walter Russell Mead, "Pakistan's Failed National Strategy"
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/ ... -strategy/

"Pakistan Is", by Barry Bearak in New York Times Magazine, December 7, 2003.
Brings out succinctly various facets of Pakistani perfidy, obsession, fundamentalism etc.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... nted=print

PAKISTAN & TERRORISM:

The Ideologies of South Asian Jihadi Groups (Laskar-e-Taiba)
By Hussein Haqqani (journalist and Pak ambassador to US)
http://www.futureofmuslimworld.com/rese ... detail.asp

Lashkar-e-Taiba: Past Operations and Future Prospects, Stephen Tankel, April 2011
New America Foundation
http://newamerica.net/sites/newamerica. ... _LeT_0.pdf

Pakistani sponsoring of Terrorism
http://www.geocities.com/charcha_2000/
http://pak-terror.freeservers.com/Terro ... y_Tool.htm

Terror Map: The Pakistani Hand
http://sify.com/news/specials/terrormap/?vsv=TopHP1

Ethnic cleansing in Pakistan - a statistical analysis
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... idhar.html

A chronicle of genocide by the Pakistan army
http://www.gendercide.org/case_bangladesh.html

Documentary video evidence of Pakistani genocide in Bangladesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EBKlIUbpc ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sMg9Ly9nK0g
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xwwPbkyZV ... re=related

Inside Jihad - How Pakistan sponsors terrorists in India
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/ ... r_sb1.html

Pakistan's Role in the Kashmir Insurgency - Op-ed by Rand's Peter Chalk
http://www.rand.org/hot/op-eds/090101JIR.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part II
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... -upon.html

BEYOND MADRASAS: ASSESSING THE LINKS BETWEEN EDUCATION AND MILITANCY IN PAKISTAN
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... nthrop.pdf

Pakistani Military Officers' Links with Jihadist Organizations
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5587.htm

PAKISTAN TODAY:

On the Frontier of Apocalypse: Christopher Hitchens seminal article on Pakistan today
http://newsstuff.0catch.com/article5.htm

http://meaindia.nic.in/bestoftheweb/2002/10/14bow2.htm

A Slender Reed in Pakistan - Editorial in the Christian Science Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p08s03-comv.html

Seymour Hersh Interview
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html

Pakistan's Nuclear Crimes (Wash. Post editorial)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... 2-2004Feb4

http://www.indiadefence.com/LOA07Aug04.htm

The Battle for Pakistan: Militancy and Conflict in Pakistan's Tribal Regions
http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/ ... r_pakistan

BOOK REVIEW Fulcrum of Evil: ISI-CIA-Al Qaeda Nexus
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpap ... r1844.html

Article from Vinni Capelli - Foreign Policy Research Institute:
Containing Pakistan: Engaging the Raja-Mandala in South-Central Asia
http://www.fpri.org/orbis/5101/cappelli ... kistan.pdf

The videos are from this documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/

A bomb at all cost By Ahmad Faruqui - a candid admission of the wars that Pakistan started against India.

Popular support for suicide bombings in pakistan.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 008_pg12_1
Survey by university students in karachi say 50% of respondents support suicide bombings in kashmir.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OWsmJIwe9Q4
"Descent into Chaos"
UC Berkeley Conversations with History, host Harry Kreisler talking with Pakistani Journalist Ahmed Rashid. 59 minutes 120 MB. It sums up Pakistan and lays bare all Pakistan's terrorist support and proliferation activities. **Note - he wants the US to solve Pakistan's Kashmir problem.

Pakistan on the brink: Video Link (must download)

MISCELLANEOUS
Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto telling Bangladeshis to "Go to Hell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsxfyxa ... re=related

IDSA's weekly summary of Pak Urdu Press:

http://www.idsa.in/pup
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Five installment series by Kapil Komireddi published in Frum Forum

Part I. Nov 16, 2009. “Pakistan In Crisis”.

Part II. Nov 18. 2009. “Pakistan: Origins of A Failed State”.

Part III. Nov 18, 2009. “Pakistan: It Could Not Succeed Unless India Failed”.

Part IV. Dec 06, 2009. “Pakistan: A Mecca for Radical Islam”.

Part V. Dec. 07, 2009. “Pakistan’s Army: Building a Nation for Jihad”

A perceptive blog on Pakistan: http://pak-watch.blogspot.com/

Declassified documents from US National Archives on Pakistan:

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakistan/pakistan.htm
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Admission of state sponsored terrorism by Pakistani authorities

see this Der Spigel Interview where Musharraf admits to that.

On 7th Nov in TimesNow Channel, Tasneem Noorani, a former Secretary of the Pakistani Interior Ministry, openly said that.

Kiyani called the Haqqanis as strategic assets.

In Dec. 2008, President Zardari himself admitted to ISI helping LeT. He said,"The links between the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency and the LeT were developed in the old days when dictators used to run the country. After the 9/11 terror attacks in the US, things have changed to a great extent"

In an address to bureaucrats in July 2009, President Zardari said: "Militants and extremists were deliberately created and nurtured as a policy to achieve some short-term tactical objectives. Let us be truthful to ourselves and make a candid admission of the realities. The terrorists of today were the heroes of yesteryears until 9/11 occurred and they began to haunt us as well"

In Nov. 2009, Prime Minister Gilani admitted to the support for terrorism by Musharraf as "running with the hares and hunting with the hounds".

When Bush warned the Pakistanis in August 2008 of their support to Al Qaeda, Afrasiab Khattak, President of Awami National Party (ANP) said this: "The question is why it has taken the Americans so long to see what the ISI is doing. We’ve been telling them for years but they wouldn’t buy it.". See here.

In an interview to the BBC as far back as on Feb. 13, 1994, Benazir Bhutto admitted how she handed over to Rajiv Gandhi the complete list of Sikh activists colluding with the ISI in terrorism in the Punjab. Later, Nawaz Sharif described this interview as a faux pas.

Apart from these, of course, numerous Pakistani commentators, analysts, and editors have openly admitted to terror as a state policy.

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A Venn diagram, by Shiv, to illustrate the commonality and difference between "bad Taliban" and Jinnah's Pakistan.

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Why Did Pakistan's Spy Chief Make a Secret Trip to China?
Pasha's China trip has been interpreted by some as a tacit act of defiance—a reminder to his American counterparts that the Pakistanis can always look east to their “all-weather” friend across the Himalayas rather than bend the knee to the will of the U.S.

But it also may be a sign of China's growing disquiet with Pakistan. Another top-ranking Pakistani military officer, Lt. Gen Wahid Arshad, had already conducted a considerable tour of China just weeks ago in a bid to improve ties. A few analysts have suggested that Pasha's trip — couched in vague terms about building a “broad-based strategic dialogue” — may have been less a visit and more of a summons.

Chinese officials claimed the attacks in Kashgar were authored by the shadowy East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a jihadist organization of mostly ethnic Uighurs, a Turkic Muslim minority that comprises the majority in the far-western Chinese region of Xinjiang. China routinely invokes the specter of the terrorist threat when cracking down on dissent in the restive region. Yet disturbances there tend to be triggered more often by social discontent — many Uighurs chafe at state policies they deem discriminatory and marginalizing — than militant connivance. Pasha's presence in Beijing may mark Beijing's continued efforts to root out Uighur dissidents and sympathizers beyond China's borders, as it has already done in Kazakhstan.
Youtube video: Bilatakalluf with Tahif Gora: Tarek Fateh dissects with Pakjabi society and shows how its war-impotent Army loots the common Pakistani (Jan 13, 2012)

now they realize that they have created a Frankenstein Monster which is destroying the creator and need proof check the daily news on pakistan its bomb blast every day and every where and the best part is that they blame it all on RAW.... but fail to see the truth....... and now they call them self victim of terrorism Mr Gilani its ur mess u created it and now u face it

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 19 Jun 2012 08:22

Gerard wrote:Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

This proves that the tellibunnies are pakis at heart and by genetic design. "Stop killing us or we will destroy our futureselves".

sum · Post by **sum** » 19 Jun 2012 08:28

SBajwa wrote:Something is cooking!! Ceasefire violation across the Poonch Sector is always suspicious!!!

Nah...Just TSP rightfully and justifiably showing their anger because India didnt legitimately solve the Siachen and Sir Creek issues and hand it over to them. Also, still didn't supply the electricity promised.

If only evil IA had allowed politicos to solve Siachen issue by now, wouldn't have happened. 400% Indian fault only

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 19 Jun 2012 08:54

From the Indian Express

partha · Post by **partha** » 19 Jun 2012 09:18

Today's headline:
http://dawn.com/2012/06/19/us-should-ap ... ly-sherry/

US should apologise appropriately: Sherry

I think I have detected a patter here. On even numbered dates, headlines will read "US should apologize" and on odd numbered dates it reads "Drone strike kills X militants in North Waziristan".

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 19 Jun 2012 10:09

19 is odd number

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 19 Jun 2012 10:14

Video of purity destroying impurity in Quetaa. Graphic warning, discretion advised.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=3645356845662

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 19 Jun 2012 10:52

RoyG wrote:Routine onlee. Our soldiers died but we will do nothing. Meeting will be held and then exchange of sweets. No worries, be happy!

Pappi-Jhappi is held at the political level. At the border our Jawans dish out much more than they get.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 19 Jun 2012 10:53

anupmisra wrote:Paki Awaam Time Pass
Power-starved turn violent

Braving sweltering heat, power-starved people staged violent protests against load shedding in many cities of the country on Sunday
In Lahore, up to 18 hours of load shedding was reported in most parts of the city due to closure of 15 out of 39 grid stations
“discriminating against Punjab”
In Faisalabad...they were braving 20 to 22 hours of power outages a day and were also without water
Reports from Peshawar, Kohat and Mansehra said that people are forced to brave up to 20 hours of load shedding a day.
...In Chichawatni where protesters attacked Saddar Police Station, set on fire seven motorcycles of police and broke the gate of its prisons room. Seven accused in the prisons room fled, taking advantage of a clash between the protesters and police.
Waziristan had been without electricity for the past three days
All in all, a relatively peaceful day in the pureland.
Jor sey bolo: Pa'astan ka matlab kya? Na paisa, na bijli, na pani, na hawa.

FATA had 24 hour loadshedding.

LaWhore had loadshedding all through the night even in posh areas. Some RAPETTES I know were all hot and sweaty.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 19 Jun 2012 11:11

Do you guys remember Leiven? The fellow who had unfettered access to GHQ in return for GUBO-ing to them? Here is a gem from his book via http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... n?page=0,0(dont bother to read that long winded article which argues Pakistan India equal==equal except for a small matter of governance)

If India were less diverse and consisted of only the "cow belt" of Hindi-speaking northern India, observes Lieven, it might not have become a democracy but rather "some form of impoverished Hindu-nationalist dictatorship." Instead, India is like Indonesia: a geographically sprawling and diverse democracy united by a common language that does not threaten the use of local tongues and dialects.

If my Aunty had a beard, she would be my uncle.

partha · Post by **partha** » 19 Jun 2012 11:14

hain? united by a common language? And here we are hammering out pages after pages in the link language thread.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 19 Jun 2012 11:14

If all Indians were like Pakistanis, India would be like Pakistan.

lakshmikanth · Post by **lakshmikanth** » 19 Jun 2012 11:16

^^^
Soon they will have 25 hour power cut, and will demand that India give 5000MW of power every year for free.

Since our generous rulers have decided to give 500MW to the sewer rats across the border, I wonder if that would be used as a "gun to the head" strategy that would go like this after a major terrorist attack: "If India cuts of power to Punjab, there will be 25 hours power cut a day and instead of protesting and clashing with the police they would charge towards the border. So India should act responsibly and suck up to the terror attack in order to prevent more terror attacks."

Given that we have Chanakian folks like Pranab Da, we would just maintain and discover that maintaining power is the Chanakian thing to do. Sorry for the whine... and Jai Ho!

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 19 Jun 2012 11:36

partha wrote:hain? united by a common language? And here we are hammering out pages after pages in the link language thread.

Without much knowledge of the Indian history and trying to imagine similarity to european states these authors keep having imagination about India. They try to conjure different social picture without knowing the reality