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Postby Gaurav_S » 26 Mar 2012 16:16

Indian universities trail Chinese in research

NEW DELHI, Mar 24, 2012, DHNS:

Deep chasm separates centres of higher learning in two Asian giants

Chinese higher education institutions are three times ahead of their Indian counterparts in research performance, a new comparative study has shown, exposing the deep chasm between the centres of higher learning in two Asian giants.

The top 20 Indian institutes producing doctoral students are way off behind Chinese universities and institutes producing PhDs, according to an analysis by CSIR National Institute of Science Communication and Information Resources, here.

The comparison is made on the basis of three quality parameters and quantity of research output. Peaking University, which tops the list from the Chinese side, is almost three times ahead of India's best performing institute—Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore.

“As China is three times ahead of us, we will have to spend three times more in higher education to catch up,” Gangan Prathap, NISCAIR director who did the analysis, told Deccan Herald. The study has been published in the March 25 issue of the journal Current Science.

The Indian institutions whose performances were studied include seven Indian Institutes of Technologies, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, eight leading universities, two medical schools—All India Institutes of Medical Sciences in Delhi and Post Graduate Institute of Medical Sciences, Education and Research in Chandigarh — and Jawaharlal Nehru Centre for Advance Scientific Research.

The eight universities are: Delhi University, Punjab University, Pune University, Banaras Hindu University, Jawaharlal Nehru University, Jadavpur University, Hyderabad University and Madras University. All of them are beaten hands down by their Chinese counterparts.

However, the comparison does not include research councils like CSIR, ICAR and ICMR as well as institutes directly under government’s scientific departments.

“If you throw peanuts, you will only get monkeys. It is not possible to do any credible research in the universities with the kind of budgetary support we receive,” commented N Raghuram, associate professor at Guru Govind Singh Indraprastha University in Delhi, who is not involved with the NISCAIR analysis.

Despite substantial jump in higher education allotment in the 11th plan, the lion's share went to 15 new central universities, staff salary and setting up of infrastructure leaving little money available with the scientists to buy consumables for research.

In most universities, almost half of the departmental budget for consumable is spent for practical examination further draining the research budget. “On the contrary, China spent a lot on research in universities and there is a tight monitoring system to ensure that the money is not wasted,” said Raghuram. The new performance comparison comes three months after Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said China had overtaken India in scientific research.

Addressing the Indian Science Congress in Bhubaneswar in January, Singh laid stress on strengthening the supply chain of the science sector. “The problem is that the government focuses on top of the line, neglecting the bottom,” said Raghuram.

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Postby Gaurav_S » 28 Mar 2012 11:46

Ayurveda research at Haffkine gets Rs4cr boost

The department of science and technology has granted Rs4 crore to the Parel-based Haffkine Institute for Training Research and Testing to work on the scientific validation of ayurvedic medicines. Under the programme, scientists will study herbal products like Tulsi and Brahmi.

The Haffkine institute, which recently started research on herbal products to regulate the production of ayurvedic medicines, had sought financial aid from the department of science and technology and department of bio-technology a year ago.

Experts say scientific validation will help India enlarge its share in the global drug market. Currently, the global herb market is worth $70 billion and growing annually at 10-15% annually. The global pharma market is worth $142 billion.

Dr Abhay Chowdhary, director of Haffkine Institute, said, “While the preliminary research on herbal products led by veteran researcher and renowned physician Dr RD Lele has already begun, we are awaiting a reply from the department of science and technology. Herbal products will be tested on small animals like mice and rodents using radio isotopes.”

In an article published in the institute’s bulletin, Lele said molecular pharmacology provides a new interface between ayurveda and modern medicines. Using modern techniques, ayurvedic drugs can provide novel molecular probes.

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Postby Gaurav_S » 29 Mar 2012 09:36

Brazil keen on space ties with India

Let ISRO launch some sats for Brazil at no cost. And we get some good looking TFTA Brazilian chicks. :lol:

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Postby Hiten » 01 Apr 2012 20:10

India's 3rd research base in Antarctica begins on trial basis
http://zeenews.india.com/news/eco-news/ ... 67575.html

there was this paper written about Dakshin Gangotri, the first research station India setup

http://www.aame.in/2010/08/dakshin-gang ... india.html

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Postby Hiten » 07 Apr 2012 14:06

Indian participation at CERN's particle accelerator facilities

http://www.aame.in/2012/04/indian-parti ... ticle.html

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Postby Amber G. » 08 Apr 2012 03:45

^^Interesting to see a few familiar faces, old friends etc..:)

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Postby Hiten » 19 Apr 2012 07:19

can you name the 2 gentlemen here? :p

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http://www.aame.in/2012/04/can-you-iden ... duals.html

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Postby lakshmikanth » 19 Apr 2012 08:07

^^ APJ is one, Sarabhai the other?

From that cone on a cycle to A-V... we have indeed come a long long way. Even though my historically illiterate brain cannot id them :), I am proud of them, they are national heros :)

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Postby Hiten » 19 Apr 2012 20:09

lakshmikanth wrote:^^ APJ is one, Sarabhai the other?

no :)

this picture is in the mould of the sailor kissing the girl at Times Square following the end of WW II.

Otherwise unknown individuals becoming part of a powerful message. 'Whole is greater than the sum of the parts'-kind.

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Postby Amber G. » 19 Apr 2012 21:45

FWIW , One more pictures...
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Postby Amber G. » 19 Apr 2012 21:47

I also liked this one from 1981..
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Postby Amber G. » 19 Apr 2012 22:12

Please post the answer.. My guess (and I may be absolutely wrong ..as it is very hard to recognize people from 60's ..) that it could be really big shots .. people like Dhawan, Brahm Prakash..(Obviously there were many other prominent young engineers - Kale, or Caltech's Pramod (?) ..Narsimha .. who may have worked there ..)

Some photos from the same era ... may be other can recognize...
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Postby Hiten » 19 Apr 2012 22:44

^^
The uncropped version of the 2nd photograph also has Madhavan Nair in it.
IIRC when this pic was posted earlier, it was also mentioned that a BRFite too features in it, but wasn t named.

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Postby Hiten » 23 Apr 2012 07:04

"The nose cone of a rocket being wheeled carefully to the launch site. When Prime Minister Gandhi formally opened the Thumba equatorial rocket launch station in February 1969, there was inevitably a large entourage of prestigious visitors, all expecting special treatment. Consequently all the space agency's jeeps and light vans had been commandeered two hours before the 6:00 p.m. launch. "I had been totally forgotten by our Administration in the VIP rush for vehicles," recalled C.R. Sathya. The nose cone for this French Centaure rocket had to be walked with its sodium vapor payload, carefully for two kilometers. The famous French photographer Henri Cartier-Bresson also found a bicycle as his "official" vehicle, rode around the site before the launch, and stopped to click this photograph of rocket engineer C.R. Sathya and instrument maker Velappan Nair (holding the nose cone). This rocket flew to a height of 145 km. Ten years later the space agency ISRO was ready to launch its satellite on an Indian rocket, but the second stage of the rocket failed on the first attempt in August 1979. A year later in July 1980 an Indian satellite was successfully lifted by an Indian rocket to an orbit beyond 300 km. Courtesy of the Indian Space Research Organization"

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Sarabhai discussing a filament winding machine with Abdul Kalam, program leader for the satellite rocket and later president of India, Madhavan Nair, later chairman of ISRO, rocket engineer S. C. Sathya, and H. G. S. Murthy............

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Postby Hiten » 23 Apr 2012 18:28

^^^
Yes. The blog post refers to the book as the source of the pictures

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Re: India's Contribution to Science & Technology

Postby vijayk » 01 May 2012 05:13

Has anyone been at St Louis for FIRST World championship?

Check www.usfirst.org

FLL (First Lego League) - 9-14 (Middle School Grades 4-8)
FTC and FRC - High school (Grade 9 - 12)

The FIRST organization is created to promote S & T for pre college students. FIRST is trying to expand internationally including India.

There was a team from Pune in FTC (SM Tech High school) fully sponsored by PTC. There was a team from Chennai and B'lore in FLL.

The great thing is Dean Kamen (founder of FIRST) wants to promote this among girls, diverse economic/racial groups, mid-America and internationally. Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Black eyed peas to promote the Science, Robotics in inner city blacks. I wish India had someone with that vision.

If any one wants to promote this in India, I can provide information and help in getting some kits or provide contacts for soponships.


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Postby thayilv » 10 Jun 2012 21:10




There indeed needs to be more education within India itself about our own contribution to science and technology. Check out this Census form from the Office of Registrar General and Census Commissioner which specifies the use of 'Arabic Numbers' only when filling out the form.

http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011-Schedule/Shedules/English_Household_schedule.pdf

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Postby Vayutuvan » 11 Jun 2012 01:13

Mathematics in India
Kim Plofker

First chapter is available on line at Princeton Press. First 40 pages can be previewed at google books. Since this is primarily an historic account of mathematics, the first chapter gives a summary of how mathematical historians view the AIT. I am mentioning this as the OIT thread is very active.

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Postby Amber G. » 17 Jun 2012 09:54

For those interested Kim Plofker has been discussed in Math thread..Some may find the discussion interesting. She spoke at ICM2010 (was Plenary speaker!!)
(See http://www.icm2010.in/scientific-program/invited-speakers

Worth watching Kim Plofker's lecture at ICM 2010 : (See Link below)

Indian rules, Yavana rules: foreign identity and the transmission of mathematics

(She talks about few case studies dealing with western (Yavan) perception of Indian Mathematics and Indian perception of western mathematics in historic times.

(This is about an 1 hr video of her lecture - at the prestigious ICM2010)

For details see math thread ..
Eg:
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4201&p=926463&hilit=Plofker#p926463

(See posts around pp 14 .. august, September 2010..)
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Postby Vayutuvan » 17 Jun 2012 10:04

Amberg ji
thanks I remember reading that part in Math thread. I got the book from the library and will be posting some excerpts as I read.

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Postby abhishek_sharma » 24 Jun 2012 08:36

For people interested in Computer Science

Webcast of Talks & Panels at ACM Turing Celebration

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Postby Vayutuvan » 24 Jun 2012 09:25

abhishek_sharma ji, thanks for a wonderful link. "... whose life has been cut short by tragedy and misunderstanding...". Unfortunately the UK Govt. has refused to pardon A.M. Turing for his homosexuality and he committed suicide after serving two years in geol for no fault of his. :(

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Postby abhishek_sharma » 24 Jun 2012 09:36

In the first video, a lady talks about it. He was not pardoned because he committed a crime (on the basis of laws *at that time*). Another guy says that Turing was frequently unhappy due to anti-gay sentiments everywhere. He was somewhat happy at King's College, Cambridge which had many gays like E. M. Forster, Keynes etc. Of course, this is quite unfortunate.

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Postby D Roy » 27 Jun 2012 10:49

Anyway since we are on the topic of India's historical contributions,

I don't know if many of you are aware that a massive campaign to distort pages on India's scientific contributions is underway in wikipedia. There is clearly an attempt to suggest that such and such came to India from xyz.

Let's take the page on the pythagorean theorem itself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_theorem

Baudahyana is mentioned only in passing. And the "reference" link given is one that claims that the Sulba Sutras have borrowed from Mesopotamia. This is but a small example. Look at any page on ancient science or maths and you will find the Indian contributions are being underrated.

And since now Wikipedia is trying to " improve " itself you will find numerous negative references to India backed up by links to books written by motivated western indologists. IN fact there seems to be a concerted effort by the dying indologist schools in america to edit wikipedia pages on India.

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Postby Varoon Shekhar » 27 Jun 2012 21:36

^
Jerks! Though last I browsed, the Wiki did have a good list of Indian inventions, innovations, discoveries. Hope that is not undergoing alteration. The "Sulva Sutras" has never been traced to "Mesopotamia' by any respected historian, so who are the twits behind this now? Of course, what these "western historians" won't say is that Indians travelled to Mesopotamia for trade, and Mesopotamians came to India for the same reason, and hence India has a much longer, mutually beneficial relationship with that area than any "western" country. Long, long before there was any "Royal Museum" or historians of the 'near East'.

They will simultaneously try to magnify, if not create out of nowhere, any West Asian/Mesopotamian influence on India, and dismiss, ignore, denigrate any Indian emotional, cultural or economic connection to that area. Nice trick! It's long overdue for Indians themselves to write/produce glossy books about that area, with an emphasis on India's perspective, and India's connections.

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Postby Varoon Shekhar » 27 Jun 2012 21:40

The Wiki article on Baudhyana himself, contains no reference to Mesopotamia.

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Postby Lalmohan » 27 Jun 2012 21:43

matrimc wrote:abhishek_sharma ji, thanks for a wonderful link. "... whose life has been cut short by tragedy and misunderstanding...". Unfortunately the UK Govt. has refused to pardon A.M. Turing for his homosexuality and he committed suicide after serving two years in geol for no fault of his. :(


the uK government has expressed regret over his persecution, there is no legal basis for "pardoning his homosexuality" - it is no longer a crime and is not punishable and not pardonable

there is a possibility that turing's death was an accident, he was experimenting with cyanide compounds in his home lab and may have accidentally ingested some. his friends at the time saw no reason for his suicide and were very surprised.

turing was quite a genius and his work is of immense importance

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Postby D Roy » 27 Jun 2012 22:13

The Wiki article on Baudhyana himself, contains no reference to Mesopotamia


The standalone articles on Indian topics don't have these issues because a high concentration of Indians oversee them. It is the India section in a world "overview" page that we have to watch out for, because here you have a whole lot of editors from western universities.

Check my post in the Future strategic etc etc in the strat forum. Check the India section in the History of math and history of chess pages on wikipedia for the distortions.

And then compare it with the standalone Indian math page and you will immediately understand what is going on.
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Postby Vayutuvan » 28 Jun 2012 06:09

Varoon Shekhar wrote:The "Sulva Sutras" has never been traced to "Mesopotamia' by any respected historian, so who are the twits behind this now?

There is one Pingree who wrote several papers starting late 1960's. He is still active writing entries for Indian Mathematics for Encyclopedia Italia.

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Postby ramana » 28 Jun 2012 06:46

To study India's contributions to modern science and technology one has to begin from before Independence.

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Postby member_23626 » 28 Jun 2012 09:05

Check Indian economy page and see how diluted they have it ... also check the foto of modern building alongside slum to supposedly show economic unequality. Also type geography and see who's picture is there under developmental geography. Can anyone expert in wiki help me on how to upload images and remove the idiotic ones?? plij to help this mullah so that he can serve his matrubhumi :)

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Postby Varoon Shekhar » 28 Jun 2012 14:36

As disagreeable as the (mis)information on India is, perhaps that is only a symptom. It's the underlying attitude of these writers who are projecting themselves onto the ancient world, and viewing Mesopotamia as some kind of imperial power doling out knowledge to less developed areas like ancient India, when they( the Mesopotamians) feel like it. What they are doing is compartmentalising India rather than seeing India as an equal and major element in ancient west Asia. Indians traveled to Mesopo'a, traded with them, influenced them, and were influenced by them, all the while maintaining their own distinctive culture. Indians have connections to that area of the world that are far more ancient than Europe, and qualitatively very different than the kind of relations that developed during European colonial times.

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Postby D Roy » 28 Jun 2012 17:55

See that has always been the problem. Today, the Anglo-Saxons like to think of themselves as the inheritors of greco-roman culture which they most certainly are not. Post-renaissance this feeling was enshrined in their academic psyche and ethos. Just watch any show on nat geo and observe the near orgasmic delight with which a briturd professor shares a story from ancient greece.
The russkis too like to think of themselves as the torchbearers of the eastern roman empire. Again they are wrong. they are not that. Instead they are a group of viking (varangian) blood carrying slavs who took on a story to keep the Tatar-Mongols at bay. The russi credo is all about colonizing Siberia. More on this sometime later. Somewhere else.

the fact is, in both religion and outlook the classical greeks were actually much closer to us and that is why they chose to come to India. This is also precisely the reason why ashoka could send missionaries to Antioch, Tyre, Judea and Alexandria who were received well by the then grecian rulers of these places.

Now there are a whole of lot of things including advanced concepts in math which were developed in the Indus valley and passed down through the generations even as the fulcrum of our civilization turned further eastward to the Gangetic valley owing to the drying up of the Saraswati whose existence the Goras have just recently accepted

But the old Aryan mythos is still being projected by some and they are the ones who would make these stupid assertions that such and such might have come from babylon. Because in their conception baudhyana "the aryan" could not have got it from the indus valley guys. In any case we lost most of the indus valley sites to the briturds because of partition and there are probably untold treasures still lying under the ground which the Brit-Paki condominium is suppressing.

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Postby Vipul » 04 Jul 2012 20:51

Indian scientist after whom God particle is named has Einstein connection too.

As all eyes on Wednesday focus on the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, famously known as CERN, Indian scientific and technological contributions are among the many that keeps the world's biggest particle physics laboratory buzzing.

In a 'quantum' leap in physics, CERN scientists on Wednesday claimed to have spotted a sub-atomic particle "consistent" with the Higgs boson or 'God particle', believed to be a crucial building block that led to the formation of the universe.

There is an intrinsic Indian connection to what is happening at CERN - Satyendra Nath Bose. It is Bose after whom the sub-atomic particle 'boson' is named.

His study changed the way Particle Physics has been studied ever since. The Higgs Boson is a particle that is theoretically the reason why all matter in the Universe has mass.The name Higgs Boson came from a British scientist Peter Higgs and Bose. The work done by Bose and Albert Einstein, later added by Higgs, lead to this pioneering day.

"India is like a historic father of the project," Paolo Giubellino, CERN spokesperson had said back in October last year when PTI visited the facility.

At the core of the CERN, spread over two countries as it is situated near the Swiss-Franco border, is the 27-km long tunnel, over 70 metres beneath the ground, where the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) or commonly referred to as the Big Bang experiment was conducted last year.The experiment had aimed to recreate the conditions of the Big Bang, when the universe is thought to have exploded into existence about 14 billion years ago.The CERN runs a number of experimental projects and over 100 Indian scientists are working round the clock.

Bose was born in Calcutta in 1894, and served as a lecturer at the universities of Dhaka and Calcutta.At the age of 30, Bose was instrumental in a key statistical discovery, along with none other than Albert Einstein himself. He sent a paper to Einstein describing a statistical model that led to the discovery of what would later be called the Bose-Einstein condensate phenomenon. The paper described the two fundamental classes of sub-atomic particles -- bosons, named after Bose, and fermions, after the Italian physicist Enrico Fermi.

While several Nobel prizes have been awarded to research related to the concepts of the boson, Bose himself was never honoured. In 1954, the Indian government conferred Bose with the Padma Vibhushan. [If we can give Bharat Ratna posthomously to lesser achievers (Politicians), then why not to this great scientist]?

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Vipul wrote:Indian scientist after whom God particle is named has Einstein connection too.

As all eyes on Wednesday focus on the European Organisation for Nuclear Research, famously known as CERN, Indian scientific and technological contributions are among the many that keeps the world's biggest particle physics laboratory buzzing.

In a 'quantum' leap in physics, CERN scientists on Wednesday claimed to have spotted a sub-atomic particle "consistent" with the Higgs boson or 'God particle', believed to be a crucial building block that led to the formation of the universe.

There is an intrinsic Indian connection to what is happening at CERN - Satyendra Nath Bose. It is Bose after whom the sub-atomic particle 'boson' is named.

His study changed the way Particle Physics has been studied ever since. The Higgs Boson is a particle that is theoretically the reason why all matter in the Universe has mass.The name Higgs Boson came from a British scientist Peter Higgs and Bose. The work done by Bose and Albert Einstein, later added by Higgs, lead to this pioneering day.

"India is like a historic father of the project," Paolo Giubellino, CERN spokesperson had said back in October last year when PTI visited the facility.

At the core of the CERN, spread over two countries as it is situated near the Swiss-Franco border, is the 27-km long tunnel, over 70 metres beneath the ground, where the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) or commonly referred to as the Big Bang experiment was conducted last year.The experiment had aimed to recreate the conditions of the Big Bang, when the universe is thought to have exploded into existence about 14 billion years ago.The CERN runs a number of experimental projects and over 100 Indian scientists are working round the clock.

Bose was born in Calcutta in 1894, and served as a lecturer at the universities of Dhaka and Calcutta.At the age of 30, Bose was instrumental in a key statistical discovery, along with none other than Albert Einstein himself. He sent a paper to Einstein describing a statistical model that led to the discovery of what would later be called the Bose-Einstein condensate phenomenon. The paper described the two fundamental classes of sub-atomic particles -- bosons, named after Bose, and fermions, after the Italian physicist Enrico Fermi.

While several Nobel prizes have been awarded to research related to the concepts of the boson, Bose himself was never honoured. In 1954, the Indian government conferred Bose with the Padma Vibhushan. [If we can give Bharat Ratna posthomously to lesser achievers (Politicians), then why not to this great scientist]?


IIRC, Bose was a major contributor to the so called Bose-Einstein condensate phenomenon. Bose howver wasn't recognized as he wasn't a respected/well known scientist in the west and as all things typical of west, his theory was discarded. He once met Einstein and explained his theory to him, which he then popularized but by the time Einstein got into it, it was already quite well establised. Anyways, Indian gobermint as usual, didn't give this great gentleman a Bharat Ratna.

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Re: India's Contribution to Science & Technology

Postby Bade » 04 Jul 2012 21:22

Higgs particle is not the only Boson particle (integer spin) and this is way after Bose's time that the Higgs mechanism was proposed or even the need rose. Associating Bose with the Higgs is ridiculous as it really belittles Boses name. The media should be more careful while reporting. SN Bose was a truly outstanding scientist from India and we should not drag his name to such potential controversial statements while making nonsensical claims, IMO.

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Postby Vayutuvan » 05 Jul 2012 01:46

Bade, well said. +1


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