Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May 2012

[vijayk]

Height of Pakistanis has fallen 4 inches over 50 years, say experts
Speaking on the occasion, Vice Chancellor, UAF Professor Dr Iqrar Ahmad Khan, said that cousin marriages were also one of the reasons for the short stature of Pakistanis. He urged the need for new diet packages to be introduced for balanced, affordable food.
Dr Iqrar also expressed concerns over existing eating habits, saying 50 years ago, large amounts of corn flour was traditionally consumed, but over time, Pakistanis had lost the mechanism to cook roti with corn flour, which was a cheaper, healthier staple food item.
Dr Iqrar revealed that a BSc (Hons) Human Nutrition and Dietetics and Food Engineering degree was being initiated for the first time in the country. He hoped that by introducing new disciplines, a trained human resource would be available for the food industry.


http://tribune.com.pk/story/375257/heig ... y-experts/

you mean they are not any more fairer, taller and tighter? How about other organs? Have they shrinked too?

Sagarika Ghost is disappointed with this news.

[RajeshA]

Height of Pakistanis has fallen 4 inches over 50 years, say experts

That is because they are not Islamic enough. They need more Islam. If this goes on much longer, they will only be good enough for Hobbit sequels only.

[Mahendra]

Unfortunately more islam also means more polio cases so for every inch gained there will be 4 inches effectively lost birather

[Prem]

Height of Pakistanis has fallen 4 inches over 50 years, say experts
That is because they are not Islamic enough. They need more Islam. If this goes on much longer, they will only be good enough for Hobbit sequels only.

Kuffaar will never understand the Pakisiamicdynamicexcretionomic loyalty . This is how Poaqers show their solidarity with Auliya Chinese people. Deeper and Taller friendship of equally taller in height and deeper in shyte .

[kasthuri]

Unfortunately more islam also means more polio cases so for every inch gained there will be 4 inches effectively lost birather

That explains why polio vaccine is banned by the talibunnies....grow up kids!

[Roperia]

Blast targets bus carrying Shia pilgrims in Quetta, 14 killed | Tribune

[Pranay]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18629523

At least 15 people have been killed in two separate attacks in Pakistan.

Eight people died when a bus carrying pilgrims was hit by an explosion in Quetta, Balochistan.

Earlier in the day a roadside bomb killed seven members of the Pakistani security forces in Bara, close to the border with Afghanistan.

Both regions have seen numerous attacks in recent years, with a number targeting Balochistan's Shia minority.

The bus attack in Quetta saw a vehicle carrying pilgrims between the city and Iran hit by either a bomb or a rocket.

A similar attack took place on 18 June in Quetta, claiming the lives of four students on a bus.

Police said they suspected Sunni militants had carried out the latest attack, which injured more than a dozen passengers.

The explosion which killed members of the paramilitary Frontier Corps in Bara was the third such attack in the past week.

Iqbal Khan, a government official, said the attack occurred as a convoy passed through a bazaar in Bara.

[pgbhat]

Hemmed in on all sides ---- Kamran Shafi

And now a little something on the latest hearing of Farahnaz Ispahani’s dual nationality case. It was instructive to read in this newspaper of record the exchange between her lawyer, Wasim Sajjad, and the honourable bench of the SC. When asked by Ispahani’s counsel why there were “no such impediments for some other top slots like the auditor general, high court judges or chief justices”, My Lord Khilji Arif Hussain remarked that high court judges were not barred from holding two nationalities because they “never sit in defence committee meetings or have direct access to the Kahuta facility”.
Direct access to Kahuta by an MNA, My Lord? Not even the Prime Minister, not even the President will be allowed anywhere near Kahuta, considered as ‘bloody civilians’ to be less patriotic than our uniformed patriots! In any case, the superior judiciary can ask for any record; any government file under the sun and woe betide the person who refuses to present it yesterday.

[Ramu]

Ex-Pakistan railway ministerSheikh Rashid detained at US airport 

[ramana]

Is Moharumm around the corner? Looks like increasing attacks on Shias in TSP cesspool.

[saip]

This bus traveled over 300 miles from Iran to Quetta. How did these talibunnies know what bus to target? This could not have happened by luck. It shows lot of planning and communication skills and placing the explosives at the right place at short notice. More like ISI, or the paki army skills, me thinks.

[RamaY]

This bus traveled over 300 miles from Iran to Quetta. How did these talibunnies know what bus to target? This could not have happened by luck. It shows lot of planning and communication skills and placing the explosives at the right place at short notice. More like ISI, or the paki army skills, me thinks.

Simple only. The shia pilgrims were chanting aloud disturbing other co-travelers. When they reached Quetta bus stand, some of them got into a fight with a local tea stall owner. Few of the shia-pilgrims misbehaved with a local Talibani sunni girl. They even threw some stone from the bus into the sunni community around the bus stand.

When the bus reached the sunni dominated area, the gas tank hidden in the bus caught fire accidentally and blew up.

Sunni Talibanis are peaceful community onlee. Prophet Muhammed told killing one human is same as killing the whole humanity. Islam means peace only. Muslims do not kill muslims.

The media coverage is nothing but a YYY conspiracy to defame the IEDea of Pakistan onlee

P.S: You better edit your post before someone reports it and drones issue a stern warning.

[saip]

You almost got me, way to go, Ramay!

[saip]

P.S: You better edit your post before someone reports it and drones issue a stern warning.

What? Did I by mistake sign into deaf and dumb forum?

AOA, this is my 1000th post. Took a while but got there.

[shyamd]

Pigs do fly, WTF is this .


Pak high commission invites Kashmiri separatists for meet in New Delhi

Next celeberate Killing Indian soldiers in New Delhi????

Why does the GOI allow this?

Who is Benefiting?

Are we a foolish democracy?

I think something has happened. See the news of 1000 former K terrorists returning via Nepal and pak has halved support financing to the terror group offices

[Mahendra]

Pak hasnt halved anything

[ManuT]

Longwar Journal has in its liveleak channel, the video released by TTP in the aftermath of beheading of PA soldiers.
Warning: extremely graphic and NSFW

.....The graphic video, which was obtained by The Long War Journal, was sent to journalists by Ihsanullah Ihsan, a spokesman for the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan.

The videotape includes a statement by Hakeemullah Mehsud, the leader of the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan. Hakeemullah promises that the Taliban will continue to fight the Pakistani military until the government enforces sharia, or Islamic law, and stops supporting the US in the region.

In the video, the Taliban show the heads of 17 Pakistani soldiers displayed on a white sheet; the Taliban claim that 18 soldiers were killed during the fighting. The Taliban fighters are standing around the gruesome display, holding weapons as the camera pans back and forth to show the soldiers' remains. The Taliban then show the military identification cards of the slain soldiers.

The 17 soldiers were killed after more than 100 Taliban fighters crossed the border from Kunar province in Afghanistan and attacked the Pakistani troops. Sirajuddin Ahmad, a spokesman for the Malakand Taliban, which operates under the command of Mullah Fazlullah, initially claimed credit for the attack and said 17 soldiers were killed.

"Our fight will continue until the establishment of sharia law in Pakistan .... We will fight whoever tries to stand in our way," Ahmad told Reuters the day after the battle.

Videotape the latest of a Taliban execution of Pakistani security forces

The Pakistani Taliban routinely videotape executions of their captives. The most recent high-profile execution, which was recorded in a videotape that was later distributed, took place in June 2011, when the Taliban captured 16 Pakistani policemen in Dir, lined them up, and executed them via firing squad.

Hell hath no fury like a Jihadi scorned.

While Good TSPians want to build djinnah's Islamic Pakistan, the Good Taliban is saying "That! We got that covered".

Like Im' the Dim said this week, if Pakistan doesn't turn into an Islamic Welfare state then what was the point. Well, Pakistan was 'conceived' as an Islamic state and been on 'welfare' since its birth.

[shyamd]

Pak hasnt halved anything

Not true. See 31st May article.

Kashmir militants give up fight and head home

Twenty years after they took up arms to fight Indian rule in the Kashmir valley, hundreds of local insurgents are now returning to their homes after renouncing militancy.

The reasons are diminishing support from the Pakistani government, a realisation that the "Kashmir jihad" is going nowhere and a promise of amnesty by the Indian government.

"It's no use staying on here," says former militant Mohammad Ahsan who lives in Muzaffarabad, the capital of Pakistani-administered Kashmir.

He is now preparing to leave for his home in Srinagar valley on the Indian side.

"The jihad is over, and poverty is catching on to us; it's better to live on your own land and around your own people than in virtual exile where one day you'll be forced to beg for a living," says Mr Ashan.

He has managed to put together 130,000 Pakistani rupees ($1,500; £960) to buy air tickets to the Nepalese capital, Kathmandu, for himself, his wife and two children. From there he will cross into India to reach Srinagar.
Futile militancy

Militant circles say there are about 3,000 to 4,000 former Kashmiri fighters stranded in and around Muzaffarabad.

Many want to return home, but some do not have the means to pay for the journey.

India and Pakistan both claim Kashmir - they have fought two wars over the territory.

A Line of Control (LoC) divides a narrow strip of Pakistan-administered Kashmir from the bulk of the region, which is held by India.

Beginning in 1988, thousands of Kashmiri youths from the Indian side crossed over the LoC into Pakistan to train in guerrilla warfare, arm themselves and then go back to fight Indian forces in their homeland.

They kept Kashmir on the boil for a decade during the 1990s, but were increasingly frustrated when Pakistani groups, such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, Al-Badr and Harkatul Mujahideen started to gain ascendancy in the "Kashmir jihad".

These groups brought with them greater resources to eclipse local groups, and professed foreign religious ideologies that were less tolerant of local sensibilities.

By the mid-2000s, after tens of thousands of Kashmiris had been killed in the uprising without shaking Indian rule, the futility of the militant-driven movement was becoming obvious and there was increased international pressure on Pakistan to withdraw support to these groups.
'Normal lives'

The gradual winding down of the movement has left the bulk of the native Kashmiri fighters in a state of suspended animation.
Policeman injured in an attack by militants in Indian-administered Kashmir (May 2012) Militants still operate in Kashmir, but the insurgency could be running out of steam

Those who could raise funds for a journey back home decided to test an earlier offer of amnesty by the Indian government.

Others have simply been sulking as return routes across the LoC - which would be a much cheaper option - are still closed to them.

During 2011, roughly 100 former militants left Pakistan along with their families and returned to their native villages on the Indian side.

Their fate was closely watched by fighters still stranded in Pakistan.

"Nothing bad happened to them," says Rafiq Ahmed, another former fighter in Muzaffarabad who has been in touch with some of the returnees.

"They were held by the Indian police for debriefing for a few days, and were then released. They are now living normal lives."

Thus emboldened, more than 500 fighters have returned to their native homes on the Indian side during the first five months of 2012, says Ghulam Mohammad, a former insurgent who is close to the people involved with the repatriation issues of Kashmiri militants.

"Most of them were married and they have also taken along their families - some 1,000 to 1,500 people in all," he says.
Cash strapped

Mr Mohammad says that between 10 and 15 former fighters are leaving Pakistan every week, along with their families.

The gradual winding down of the movement has left the bulk of the native Kashmiri fighters in a state of suspended animation”

They fly to Kathmandu on a Pakistani passport. From there they cross into India and reach Kashmir, where the returning men report to the local police to confirm their arrival.

"The Kathmandu route has two advantages; it is familiar to former militants and their 'handlers' who used it in the past to smuggle militants into India, and it is away from the public glare and therefore suitable to keep this exodus under wraps," he says.

The insurgents' departure comes amid reports of drastic cuts in the money which militant circles say the Pakistani security establishment used to pay them for their activities.

According to these circles, the practice of disbursing funds to various groups for operations inside Indian-administered Kashmir was stopped by the military government of former president Pervez Musharraf in 2006.

In recent months, they say, Pakistan has halved the funds which it still pays to these groups to meet their establishment expenses - such as office rent, stationery, transport, fuel or food.

Militant sources say that these funds can barely support small groups of core activists within each of roughly a dozen Kashmiri militant organisations that still run offices in Pakistani-administered Kashmir.

Pakistan denies giving the insurgents any support other than moral and diplomatic backing for their movement.

Although many former militants say those who have gone back in recent months have benefited from the Indian amnesty, some who have already returned to the Indian side told the BBC they have been disappointed by the lack of opportunities in their native land and are finding it difficult to rebuild their lives.

[Mahendra]

No disrespect to you but PeePeeCee is toilet paper. Don't tell me I need to believe PeePeeCee's report that Bakistan has halved its support funds to Cashmehere. Wonder which cousin marrying inbred britbaki's 4 inches shorter than average height aulaad proof read that article

[shyamd]

^^ From reuters to IANS they all reported the above. State intel confirmed receiving circa 1000 applications. As for halved support, it does make sense given the large numbers returning and also the lack of attacks this summer. No paisaaa

I guess onlee yintel can confirm if halved or not

[ramana]

Mahendra, BBC is only reporting/confirming earlier reports by Indian news media.
It really puts a dent in the raisin de etre of TSP.

[Mahendra]

Aha Zilfiqar Ali PeePee Cee Isloo, say no more, just wipe and flush

Ramanaji, I find it extremely hard to believe that Bakistan would move an inch away from normal behaviour as in vinashakaale vipareetha buddhi.

[svinayak]

Pakistan. The US, Geopolitics and Grand Strategies

Pakistan. The US, Geopolitics and Grand Strategies
Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:25 Dr. Ludwig Watzal


BONN 27 June 2012. The killing of Osama Bin Laden highlighted the already shattered relationship between the American and Pakistani governments. This incursion, the illegal drone war and other encroachments upon the Pakistan’s sovereignty by the US have brought the “special” relationship to square one. Yet, “the post 9/11 US-Pakistan relationship is not as special it is often portrayed as being. It reflects a complex combination of the phenomena of the war on terror, regional alliances and geopolitical realities, and Indian-Pakistani arch rivalries.” The skillful balancing of this political mélange is seen by the US and its Western cronies as a double game. Despite its close relationship with China and its difficult political and geopolitical maneuvering, Pakistan is still perceived as a key Western ally.


The book’s editors, Usama Butt, director of the Institute of Islamic Sociopolitical and Strategic Affair (IISA), and Julian Schofield, deputy director of the Centre d’études des politoques étrangères et de sécurité (CEPES) at the Université du Québec in Montréal, have gathered leading scholars from Pakistan and some Western countries. Even a scholar from the American Enterprise Institute, a neo-conservative think tank, is on board.

The book is divided into two parts: The first one deals exclusively with Pakistan-US relations; the second part discusses Pakistan´s foreign relations with other states. Pakistan’s domestic setting is as complex as its geopolitical situation and cannot be reduced to the decade of the “war on terror” or solely explained by its complicated relation to India. Both sections of the book are based on the paradigm that the country’s foreign policy should not be defined by the war on terror. Beside the US, Pakistan’s staunchest allies are Saudi Arabia and China, and the relations with Iran and Afghanistan are also excellent.

Plodding through all the chapters is a bit laborious, although each is interesting to read. While each chapter is free-standing, reading them in sequence conveys the complexity of Pakistani political setting to the reader. Starting out with Usama Butt’s article that deals with the relationship between the dynamics of the “global war on terror (GWOT)”, the country’s Islamic orientation and the reactions of the masses, the article comes to a preliminary conclusion that “all the challenges the world faces today are the direct results of inhuman Western policies, its luddism, imperialism, and the selfish and arrogant attitude”. “Pakistan was formed in the name of Islam”, writes Butt and hints at the irony that the Islamic ideology is being contested today both within and outside its borders. Historical developments show that the Christian West from the eighth century on until today fought a bloody war against the religion of Islam, starting with the crusaders, the reconquest of Spain by the so-called catholic kings, the colonialism and imperialism to the Islamophobia of the neo-colonial period. The West and especially the US through its drone wars, have caused massive anti-Westernism and anti-Americanism in Pakistan. As the main reasons for this attitude Butt blames “the Islamophobic theory of a clash of civilizations, constructed largely by neoconservatives and Christian-Zionists, along with the Bush doctrine of pre-emption, all viewed through the prism of the GWOT”. The author sees two ways out of Pakistan’s political deadlock: firstly, there must be an “honest debate” about the role of Islam in the running of the state; and secondly, there needs to be a serious re-evaluation of the conduct of the GWOT within the country.

As regards the nuclear issue, the US administration applies double standards towards India and Pakistan. According to one of the authors, Shaista Tabuassum, professor of the Department of International Relations at Karachi University, the “United States and other western powers consider Pakistan’s nuclear program to be a threat to their own security and to the rest of the world”. It is true that neither Pakistan nor Israel have signed the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and refuse inspections of their installations. But why is only Pakistan considered a threat to the peace? The author describes the history of Pakistan’s nuclear program and the US government’s preferential treatment of India because both of them see China as a threat to their hegemonic endeavor.

[shiv]

One thing I have noticed about Pakistan is that at least in the past (3-4 years) they had left the policing and action in Waziristan to the "police" and non-Army security forces while the Army was reserved for India. However there have been reports from time to time about the number of Pakistan army personnel involved in fighting the US war of terror against the Sunni Muslims of the Taliban ranging from 80,000 (older reports) to 140,000 (more recent).

Since Pakistanis are inveterate liars I never believe it when they say that x thousand army personnel have lost their lives in fighting the US war of terror against the Sunni Taliban. But there have been report of low morale and desertions in the Pakistan army (in the last 1-2 years) and refusal to fight fellow Muslims of the Taliban.

However in the last few days there have been reliable reports of 17 beheaded soldiers and the 8 Paki "security men" who were cuttled in an IED mubarak yesterday. If the stories of significant Pakistan army casualties are true, the Pakistan army will have to take revenge or their morale problem can only get worse. Soldiers are trained to fight war and kill. Seeing deaths of colleagues and friends are usually a signal that those deaths must be avenged. If you do not allow soldiers to do the job they are trained for and ask them just to go and get killed, morale will soon plummet and you no longer have a fighting army.

I see two problems in Paki soldiers taking "revenge". The first is that they are trained to fight kafirs and consider the Taliban their friends. The second problem is that every time anyone does fight the Taliban it is used by the Taliban as "proof" that the Pakistan army is a slave of America. I am sure the Pakistan army officer cadre are stuck up shit creek now, which is why they will be unable to take over the country. If they take over the country they will have to kick out the US if they want to please Pakis. But that will ensure that their funds and best arms will dry up.

I think they should kick out the US. On balance the problems (for the shitistani army) that are caused by Paki army making an enemy of the US are worse than the Paki army playing a double game or keeping the US as an ally. And anything that causes severe problems for the Paki army is good for India.

[Prem]

Bill to declare Haqqani Network a terror outfit in US congress

Abb Tera Kya Hoga Pakiya? Massa, Maine Apka Namak Khaya Hai . Le Abb B52 Bhi Khaa

WASHINGTON: American lawmakers Thursday moved a bill in the US Congress to declare the al-Qaeda linked Haqqani network a terrorist outfit deeming it as a grave danger to US led coalition forces deployed in Afghanistan.A bill in this regard was introduced in the House of Representatives by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers; Buck McKeon, Chairman of House Armed Services Committee and Chairman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of the Foreign Affairs Committee.Introducing the bill Rogers said, Republicans and Democrats in both houses of Congress agree that the Haqqani Network was a violent organisation and a grave threat to the US security."The Haqqanis are responsible for killing hundreds of our troops, and their indiscriminate attacks have also murdered countless innocent Afghan men, women, and children.With this bipartisan, bicameral effort, we urge the Obama Administration to formally designate the Haqqani Network as a Foreign Terrorist Organisation", he said.The designation of Haqqani network as Foreign Terrorist Organisation will make it unlawful to provide material support or resources to it.he group of lawmakers in a statement held the Haqqani Network responsible for a long reign of terror, indiscriminate attacks, killing of US and coalition soldiers, Afghan police, and innocent Afghan men, women, and children.It said the network was responsible for June 2011 attack when eight Haqqani gunmen and suicide bombers carried out an assault on the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul leaving 18 people dead.The lawmakers also blamed the group for a truck bomb attack on a US military base in Wardak province, which injured 77 US troops and killed five Afghans.
The statement also said that the network was behind the September 2011 assault on the US Embassy in Kabul.

[Prem]

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 012_pg7_10
Pakistan warns against attacks from Afghan side

UNITED NATIONS: Pakistan told the UN Security Council on Wednesday that it had acted with restraint to a recent cross-border attack by Taliban that killed 17 Pakistani soldiers, but warned against recurrence of such provocations from the Afghan side.“Preventing recurrence of such incidents is absolutely imperative - and safe havens in Afghanistan of such people must be dissuaded,” Ambassador Fatullah Hussain Haroon, Pakistan’s permanent representative to the UN, said of the attack that took place on June 24 in Upper Dir.“It is a grave incident, which unfortunately is not unprecedented,” he told the 15-nation council, which debated the situation in Afghanistan. Ambassador Haroon, describing great costs to Pakistan in dealing with security challenges and refugees emanating from the Afghan situation, expressed deep concern over provocations from Afghan areas with sizable Afghan forces and international presence.Despite such provocations, “we neither play the blame game, nor conduct diplomacy through media”, he said. The Pakistani envoy said apart from capacity-building of the Afghan National Security Forces, Pakistan had sought closer engagement with Afghanistan and its international partners on all security-related issues.Pakistan, he added, had done so by maintaining a robust presence of its forces along the international border. Its deployment of troops and paramilitary in the border region had far exceeded the number of international troops in entire Afghanistan. This, Ambassador Haroon said, had come at considerable economic, political and human cost for Pakistan. At the end, he reiterated Pakistan’s commitment to a peaceful and stable Afghanistan. Meanwhile, Kabul vowed to take concrete steps for stopping cross-border attacks on Pakistani checkposts along Afghanistan’s Kunar province. This was stated by Afghan Ambassador Umer Daudzai, who called on Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar at the Foreign Office. Expressing concern over the cross-border raids and rocket attacks, the Afghan ambassador said all Afghans were concerned over the attacks that killed 18 Pakistani soldiers in Dir, a spokesman for Afghan embassy said. Daudzai said terrorism was a problem for both countries and Islamabad as well as Kabul must jointly take steps to eradicate the menace. Khar also stressed that such incidents must be stopped in future.
After appreciating the statement of former prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani, official sources said, Daudzai urged Khar to expedite efforts for peace in Afghanistan as no progress could be made in this connection

[Prem]

Zia Generation now moving up

4 air commodes made air vice marshals

ISLAMABAD - The Government has promoted Air Commodore Anis-ur-Rehman, Air Commodore Sohail Ahmad Malik, Air Commodore Muhammad Salman And Air Commodore Ijaz Mahmood Malik to the rank of air vice marshal, a press release said. Anis-ur-Rehman was commissioned in Pakistan Air Force on 29 March, 1982. He has commanded a fighters’ squadron, a fighters’ wing and an operational air base. He is a graduate of combat commanders’ school, air war college and national defence university. Air Vice Marshal Sohail Ahmad Malik was commissioned in PAF on 15 January, 1982. During his career, he has served as Chief Engineer JF-17 co-production and as Managing Director at Aircraft Manufacturing Factory Kamra.Air Vice Marshal Muhammad Salman was commissioned in PAF on 24 September, 1982. He has commanded an engineering wing and has been working as Managing Director of Mirage Rebuild Factory at PAC Kamra. Air Vice Marshal Ijaz Mahmood Malik was commissioned in PAF on 23 November, 1981. He has worked on all the main air defence systems of PAF.

[Prem]

Naatti Dhottee Reh Gaye, Paki Muunh pei makkhi Beh gayee
Pakistan’s countdown to melting?

The economic meltdown of Pakistan is a deliberate and methodical operation executed by Pakistan’s own policymakers in concert with state and non-state actors. The political malaise rife with immorality flows out of this charter. It is no coincidence that in the past two years, the war fronts in what USA calls AfPak have flipped. Slowly and gradually, Pakistan has been pushed to a corner; being accused as the spoiler. As the US and Nato forces contemplate a symbolic withdrawal from Afghanistan, they will leave behind effective perpetual pivots of threat against presumed policies/targets in Pakistan. The credibility of this policy is based on a script of a discredited, ill organised and failing Pakistan; a direction we are headed to and discussed/war gamed by Pakistan’s security establishment as early as 2002.
Pakistan’s rapid descent to anarchy is engineered by a coterie of corrupt and opportunist political parties adhering to different shades of ideologies conspicuously short on a unified national purpose, an interventionist and anti-anarchic judiciary acting as a custodian of ‘rule of law’, an insurgency laced by urban terrorism, lack of federal and provincial writs, proliferation of alternative systems of arbitrations, shady jirgas, poverty and rising waves of crime. Was this the Pakistan envisioned by Asif Ali Zardari when he declared that “democracy is the best revenge?” Within the given script, he pursued the policies of a military dictator with vigour and craft. Within a year, the distinction on Salala as a JSOC Operation or a Nato/Isaf strike has blurred. This hybridist notion is not without a purpose; most explicit in seeking an exclusive apology from the USA and severing the ground lines of communications (GLOC) for Nato (blame Pakistan), and least explicit in why such denial from the USA. Where is the relevance?According to Christine Fair, elements of Pakistan’s erstwhile jihadi proxies have refocused their efforts to sustain a bloody war on Pakistan itself. She says that such disturbing mobilisation should give pause to those who champion the causes of the “silent moderate majority” in Pakistan. This explains a veiled existential threat that non-state actors pose to US adventurism into Pakistan and the reason why focus remains on its jihadi nexus and the Mumbai bombing. The army actually feels convinced that the US has stabbed it more than once in the back and the times of GHQ-Pentagon romance are over. The container traffic has resulted in the proliferation of US weapons and linkages with the ongoing insurgencies in Pakistan. Yet, it has persisted with military diplomacy and kept communications open. According to Fair, the attainment of common strategic objectives in the Pak-US relations has been overcast by divergence over security issues. With its hands full, the army is not keen to be sucked into any new conflict. It will wait and see how the dynamics within Pakistan shape themselves and may choose to work invisibly.

the pressure on Pakistan army is likely to increase through drones, sponsored militant activities particularly in Balochistan and posturing. The arrest of the Mumbai mastermind, fresh offensives into Dir/Chitral from bases in north Afghanistan and presence of a US carrier off Gwadar are some of the implied threats. In case the issue of GLOCs cannot be resolved, raids into Pakistan will intensify. In a worst firebreak point, the naval quarantine of Pakistan cannot be ruled out. Opening of a corridor through Balochistan alluded in my Op-ed titled Pakistan’s Future War could not be farfetched? This is how Pakistan’s Long War will be fought step by step.

[Roperia]

Longwar Journal has in its liveleak channel, the video released by TTP in the aftermath of beheading of PA soldiers.
Warning: extremely graphic and NSFW
video Link

Paki army's motto is Jihad-fi-Sabilillah (Jihad in the cause of God)

Source -

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http://www.pakistanarmy.gov.pk/AWPReview/TextContent.aspx?pId=17&rnd=108

The TTP's video also suggests that their motto is Jihad in the name of Allah.

Moral of the story - both are doing Jihad in the name of same Allah (because from whatever I have heard, apparently a Muslim believes in the concept of “no deity except Allah” ) but against each other. Confusion reigns supreme in War on terror.

[Anujan]

The BRF version of the slogan is Jihadi-Fistula

[RajeshA]

By increasing terror attacks against Paki Army soldiers using non-state actors, basically Afghanistan can also control Pakistan offering both "help" and claiming its inability to help much in light of non-cooperation of Pakistan.

If one attack like this in Dir can shake Pakistan, a 100 attacks like these may bring Pakistan to the table, and a 1000 attacks may bring Pakistan to its knees.

[SSridhar]

. . ., and a 1000 attacks may bring Pakistan to its knees.

'Op. Reverse Topaz'

[Lisa]

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 012_pg7_10
Pakistan warns against attacks from Afghan side

UNITED NATIONS: Pakistan told the UN Security Council on Wednesday that it had acted with restraint to a recent cross-border attack by Taliban that killed 17 Pakistani soldiers, but warned against recurrence of such provocations from the Afghan side.“Preventing recurrence of such incidents is absolutely imperative - and safe havens in Afghanistan of such people must be dissuaded,” Ambassador Fatullah Hussain Haroon, Pakistan’s permanent representative to the UN, said of the attack that took place on June 24 in Upper Dir.“It is a grave incident, which unfortunately is not unprecedented,” he told the 15-nation council, which debated the situation in Afghanistan. Ambassador Haroon, describing great costs to Pakistan in dealing with security challenges and refugees emanating from the Afghan situation, expressed deep concern over provocations from Afghan areas with sizable Afghan forces and international presence.Despite such provocations, “we neither play the blame game, nor conduct diplomacy through media”, he said. The Pakistani envoy said apart from capacity-building of the Afghan National Security Forces, Pakistan had sought closer engagement with Afghanistan and its international partners on all security-related issues.Pakistan, he added, had done so by maintaining a robust presence of its forces along the international border. Its deployment of troops and paramilitary in the border region had far exceeded the number of international troops in entire Afghanistan. This, Ambassador Haroon said, had come at considerable economic, political and human cost for Pakistan. At the end, he reiterated Pakistan’s commitment to a peaceful and stable Afghanistan. Meanwhile, Kabul vowed to take concrete steps for stopping cross-border attacks on Pakistani checkposts along Afghanistan’s Kunar province. This was stated by Afghan Ambassador Umer Daudzai, who called on Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar at the Foreign Office. Expressing concern over the cross-border raids and rocket attacks, the Afghan ambassador said all Afghans were concerned over the attacks that killed 18 Pakistani soldiers in Dir, a spokesman for Afghan embassy said. Daudzai said terrorism was a problem for both countries and Islamabad as well as Kabul must jointly take steps to eradicate the menace. Khar also stressed that such incidents must be stopped in future.
After appreciating the statement of former prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani, official sources said, Daudzai urged Khar to expedite efforts for peace in Afghanistan as no progress could be made in this connection

An anomaly, if they are from Afghanistan then how and why were the
severed heads displayed in Miran Shah a town in Pakistan?

Can Ambassador Haroon kindly explain.

[Anujan]

I am beginning to suspect that the Afghans have had it and are just benignly neglecting Mullah FM. Payback for Paki ISI funding and training the Haqqani network. Recall that there was a huge attack in Kabul a few days back, by the usual Paki-trained and funded suspects.

Pakis, long accustomed to the monopoly business of training and sheltering terrorists are shocked that others can do it to them too.

[hnair]

The BRF version of the slogan is Jihadi-Fistula

In their case it has recently become, a slogan of denial "Jihad-fi-syphillisillah" (affecting both the heads in terminal stages)

btw, isn't Haroon that fair'n lovely NY-based overweight RAPE, who wears bow-ties and other appurtenances of the satan?

[Anujan]

Abu Jundal Prize Catch or A Victim of Turf War

A "secularist" buffoon gets space on the TOI for wild CTs.

The moron states:

Now suddenly, out of nowhere Abu Jundal, a native of Beed and an Indian national—whose real name is Zabiuddin Ansari and who has an established, positive connection with the Maharashtra Police—emerges

2009 Article:
http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_a ... re_1276204

Police are baffled at Kasab’s revelation in court on Monday that an Indian, Abu Jundal, was involved in November 26 terror attacks.

“We did not come across Abu Jundal’s name during investigations. Kasab never told us about him during the interrogations,” Rakesh Maria, the joint commissioner of police (crime), said.

Police were investigating Jundal’s involvement. Only after investigations were over, Maria said, police would decide whether to name him as an accused in the case.

Again from 2009
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... kasab-case

Who is Abu Jundal, the Indian named by Ajmal Kasab during his confession on Monday? This is the first time that Kasab has named an Indian as a handler of the Lashkar-e-Taiba that had masterminded the 26/11 carnage.

Though special public prosecutor Ujwal Nikam said Kasab had deliberately named an Indian to mislead the investigation, sources in the security establishment confirmed that a terror mastermind, by the name Abu Jundal, did exist. ''In fact, he has been one of the most-wanted leaders and we have been trying to track him down for the past 15 years,'' a security official said.

From 2010
http://netindian.in/news/2010/02/04/000 ... -be-indian

Union Home Minister P Chidambaram today said that there was a handler in the November 26, 2008 terror attacks on Mumbai who could be an Indian or someone who had lived in the country for a long time.

"There was a handler in 26/11 whom we have known for long, or suspected for a long time, could be an Indian," Mr Chidambaram told journalist Vir Sanghvi in an interview on television channel CNBC-TV 18.

He said that voice samples of the suspect from Pakistan were essential to conclusively estbalish the identity of the handler, who goes by the name of Abu Jindal.

From 2009
http://www.timesnow.tv/Saeeds-secret-me ... 327657.cms

It emerged that an FIR was reported against a man named Abu Jandal, who is said to have attended one of Hafiz Saeed's secret meetings. Speculation is rife that this is the same Jandal wanted in planning the 26/11 Mumbai attacks and Ajmal Kasav claimed that it was Abu Jandal, who taught him Hindi and the ropes of launching terror strikes.

From 2010
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... ror-attack

According to Indian security sources, one of the 26/11 handlers, Abu Jundal, referred to Kashmiri's 313 Brigade during one of his instructions to terrorist Imran Babar.{He is linked to Ilyas Kashmiri}

And there are tens of more articles. Stating for the record so that morons with their own agendas dont allege that "Abu Jundal" was recently dug up phenomenon and mislead us all. That fellow was sought for a long time, has been mentioned in Kasab's confessional statement in 2009, has been mentioned by Chidambaram in 2010, has been mentioned by the police and intelligence agencies as someone they are tracking and hope to catch. There are records which go back atleast 3 years! and the moron has the temerity to say:

Now suddenly, out of nowhere Abu Jundal

And oh by the way the name "Abu Jundal" seems to be popular, an article from 2005
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2005 ... alism.html

The story of Abu Jundal and Abu Baasir is often used by terrorists as religious justification for their crimes. Some friends of the recent suicide bombers in Bali, for instance, said their actions were inspired by Abu Jundal. A loyal aide to Osama bin Laden has also taken the name Abu Jundal.

Who is Abu Jundal? How come the account of his life has become a doctrine to legitimatize draconian attitudes? The story of Abu Jundal took place in a time when the Prophet Muhammad offered a peace deal with the tribe of Quraish, called the Treaty of Hudaybiya. The Quraish sent Suhayl bin 'Amr as an emissary. One point of the treaty said, ""If any person from among the Quraish goes to Medina he shall be sent back, but if any Muslim goes to Mecca he shall not be sent back.""

Before the treaty was signed, a son of Suhayl named Abu Jundal escaped Mecca and had gone to Muhammad seeking shelter as a newly converted Muslim. Suhayl demanded the return of his son if Muhammad wanted to proceed with the agreement. The Prophet was in difficult position. He knew the Quraish would treat Abu Jundal badly if he was returned because of his faith. However, if he did not return Jundal there would be no treaty.

To the objections of his friends and advisers, mainly Umar bin Khattab, the Prophet decided to hand over Abu Jundal to the Quraish. He offered Abu Jundal some condolence by stating that God would present him a way out.

On his way to Mecca, Jundal killed the Quraishi accompanying him and escaped to Saif al-Bahr. He joined with Abu Baasir Utba bin Usaid and 70 other people who accepted Islam and left Mecca. They began to raid the Quraish caravans that traveled to Syria for trade. They spread fear and killed many people. Their deeds disrupted economic activities in Mecca.

[chandrabhan]

Height of Pakistanis has fallen 4 inches over 50 years, say experts
Speaking on the occasion, Vice Chancellor, UAF Professor Dr Iqrar Ahmad Khan, said that cousin marriages were also one of the reasons for the short stature of Pakistanis. He urged the need for new diet packages to be introduced for balanced, affordable food.....

http://tribune.com.pk/story/375257/heig ... y-experts/

What??? TFTA mards are getting shorter while SDRE are taller in 50 years. What has the world come to? Allah must be really p@ss#d with Pawkis. First the mayhem by the more religious yahoos & now have made them shorter too.

Pawkistan needs more islam

[archan]

^^ can someone with TOI account post the above in the comments? its better than the other so called hawks shouting "you are a congress plant" there.

[SSridhar]

One thing I have noticed about Pakistan is that at least in the past (3-4 years) they had left the policing and action in Waziristan to the "police" and non-Army security forces while the Army was reserved for India. However there have been reports from time to time about the number of Pakistan army personnel involved in fighting the US war of terror against the Sunni Muslims of the Taliban ranging from 80,000 (older reports) to 140,000 (more recent).

Shiv, when the reports claim Pakistani Army soldiers were killed, that most probably refers to Frontier Corps or the various Scouts that operate in the FATA region. The Peshawar-based XI Corps which was moved with great fanfare to the India border after the Parliament attack and Op. Parakram went back in c. 2004 to their bases and did not venture out much thereafter.

These forces were supposed to have taken part in the hammer-and-anvil type attack, along with the NATO forces from the Afghan side, against the Al Qaeda & Taliban elements in Waziristan in mid-March 2004. After the miss in Tora Bora in the fag end of c. 2001, the Americans believed that OBL & Zawahiri were holed up in Waziristan and hence they pressured Musharraf to take part in the joint operation.

As is the standard operating procedure in Pakistan, anything unpalatable to the Pakistanis will have to be packaged differently. If all go well, it's OK; but if things turn worse, there will be a hasty retreat. That is what happened in March 2004. Gen. Musharraf explained away the operation to the concerned jirga elders, hours before it started, as an attempt to capture al-Libbi who Musharraf claimed as the mastermind in attempts to assassinate him. But, March 16, 2004 happened to be the Waterloo for the Scouts at Kaloosha in South Waziristan as the Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters made a mincemeat of them killing over eighty. It was with very great difficulty that the Scouts extricated themselves. This seminal debacle led to immediate cessation of the operations and a peace deal which the Peshawar Corps Commander personally signed at Shakai after publicly embracing Nek Mohammed.

This put paid to the hammer-and-anvil operation between the PA and the NATO forces. Knowing Pakistan as we do here, I won't be surprised if the operations on the Pakistani side were orchestrated to end in a debacle for the PA so as to escape working with the NATO in these operations against top Al Qaeda & Taliban leaders. What are the lives of 80-odd soldiers when the Islamic Nation itself and more importantly its perfidy, need to be preserved ?

After that incident, it was a series of 'peace deals' with the Pakistani Taliban and the regular PA was involved only minimally. The engagements of the PA were later in Bajaur when they along with the PAF flattened mud houses that had a;ready been evacuated after due warning had been given of an intended operation. Then in late 2008, they took on Mullah FM Fazlullah under great international pressure. The PA wanted the National Assembly to approve such an operation ! Even then, Fazlullah strategically retreated and the PA & the PAF, as usual, conquered empty villages and claimed trophies.

During the period from 2004 to 2008, dozens of serious attacks happened in and around Peshawar with Lashkar-e-Islam, an affiliate of AQAM, simply ruled this area. The XI Corps was safely garrisoned and never ventured out to take on the more pious.

[SSridhar]

Murder Most Foul - Edit in Daily Times

Our military and intelligence agencies have liked to think of the Taliban as being clearly divided into two types: the ‘good’ and the ‘bad’ Taliban, with the good ones being the establishment’s proxies, the Afghan Taliban, including the Jalaluddin Haqqani network, recruited to wage a proxy war inside Afghanistan as a counter to US/NATO efforts in the region, and the bad Taliban being home-grown extremists, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, who rose up in arms after the army’s Lal Masjid raid that killed scores of madrassah students in July 2007. This distinction has led to the army choosing sides but now, it seems, both sets of Taliban have become two sides of the same coin. A conniving nexus seems to have been established between the Afghan Taliban and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan