Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 27 Jun 2012 20:22

70,000 among the first batch - that is how it has been interpreted. People also think that this was a large number for the times - kind of infinity, in that circle.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Jun 2012 21:20

And it was limited to the natonalities they knew at that time. Only Arabs allowed. All the rest are fooled by sufi mullas..

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 Jun 2012 21:29

Christians Should "Convert, Pay Tribute, or Leave," Says Muslim Brotherhood Presidential Candidate?
This after elections. Guess the world secular has no meaning outside India. It is just to fool aam aadmi into believing that there exist some universal peaceful happy system outside and aam aadmi has to become modern to feel good enough for the non existent system.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Jun 2012 21:39

shiv wrote:
anupmisra wrote:I am a non-Arab Muslim
Well here you are folks - this is the Biblical, Islamo-Christian Caste system. the same system was accepted by the Brits when they came to India. The blamed Indians for starting it. And we believed them.
]Tabari II:11 “Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles (brahmins) would be descended from Shem and kings (kshatriyas) would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks. (Shudras and other assorted people)

2 year free stint to enjoy the Saudi hospitality for the convert population is the perfect antidote to many takleefs caused by the religious dogmatic stings .

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 28 Jun 2012 00:06

vishvak wrote:Christians Should "Convert, Pay Tribute, or Leave," Says Muslim Brotherhood Presidential Candidate?
This after elections. Guess the world secular has no meaning outside India. It is just to fool aam aadmi into believing that there exist some universal peaceful happy system outside and aam aadmi has to become modern to feel good enough for the non existent system.

You didn't understand secularism. Secularism is just separation of Church and state; and it does not denounce the rights of church in doing what it is supposed to do, that is propagate Abrahamic faith. It means that the Abrahamic religions have a right to practice their faith, in private and in public. It is only the non-Abrahamic religions that need to be suppressed by the state.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 29 Jun 2012 23:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg&feature=b-mv

Watch 7:00 comment!!!

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 01 Jul 2012 04:37

Apologies if this is old stuff.. But I came across this really interesting theory on possible mis-interpretations of Quraan.. the infamous "72 houris in jannat" is also addressed around 11:00

[youtube]HKzXzCCVC1I&feature=related[/youtube]

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Jul 2012 05:28

Mali Islamists destroy holy Timbuktu sites

Al Qaeda-linked Mali Islamists armed with Kalashnikovs and pick-axes destroyed centuries-old mausoleums of saints in the UNESCO-listed city of Timbuktu on Saturday in front of shocked locals, witnesses said.

The Islamist Ansar Dine group backs strict sharia, Islamic law, and considers the shrines of the local Sufi version of Islam to be idolatrous. Sufi shrines have also been attacked by hardline Salafists in Egypt and Libya in the past year.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 01 Jul 2012 16:12

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 82648.html

In his book, for instance, is passing reference to Western Europe's creation of the world's "first atheistic societies," also "the least efficient societies ever known at turning resources (of which they have a lot) into offspring (of which they have very few)."

What does he actually mean? He means Islam: "Demographic curves are very hard to bend," he says. "Unless something changes in Europe in the next century, it will eventually be a Muslim continent. Let me say it diplomatically: Most religions are tribal to some degree. Islam, in its holy books, seems more so. Christianity has undergone a reformation and gotten some distance from its holy books to allow many different lives to flourish in Christian societies, and this has not happened in Islam."

arun · Post by **arun** » 03 Jul 2012 07:04

Masked assailants launch simultaneous gun and grenade raids on two churches in the Kenyan town of Garissa, which is described as a “largely Muslim town of 150,000”:

Attacks on Kenyan churches kill 17

arun · Post by **arun** » 03 Jul 2012 07:14

krisna wrote:Mali Islamists destroy holy Timbuktu sites

Al Qaeda-linked Mali Islamists armed with Kalashnikovs and pick-axes destroyed centuries-old mausoleums of saints in the UNESCO-listed city of Timbuktu on Saturday in front of shocked locals, witnesses said.

The Islamist Ansar Dine group backs strict sharia, Islamic law, and considers the shrines of the local Sufi version of Islam to be idolatrous. Sufi shrines have also been attacked by hardline Salafists in Egypt and Libya in the past year.

The act of purging Mohammadden religion symbols to demonstrate the greater piety of one group of Mohammaddens vis a vis another group of co-religionists continues in Mali.

For an encore, a Mosque is targeted:

Malian Islamists attack world heritage site mosques in Timbuktu

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 03 Jul 2012 12:12

Paul wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg&feature=b-mv

Watch 7:00 comment!!!

Ahh, Americans are now getting a little taste of things to come. Dearborn just hit the 30% mark. It's now a one way road to paradise.

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 03 Jul 2012 19:33

In the US cities won't be named after mass murders like in India. The people here are quite tolerant compared to most countries. However the politically correct treatment being meted out in Europe to Mohammedeans just won't fly here. Too many (thank God) right wingers here.

member_23626 · Post by **member_23626** » 03 Jul 2012 20:28

tejas wrote:In the US cities won't be named after mass murders like in India. The people here are quite tolerant compared to most countries. However the politically correct treatment being meted out in Europe to Mohammedeans just won't fly here. Too many (thank God) right wingers here.

Yeah yeah, as if all hindus in India would just jump on muslims and eat their faces off isn't it?? And the fact that columbus is regarded as founder of America and an American hero blows off your claims of not naming the country after mass murderers. I know you are a great American my friend, but please don't comment on India like that

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 03 Jul 2012 21:16

^^^ You are getting me all wrong my friend. My point is how the hell can Indians allow a city to be named Ghazibad? In the US they would not tolerate Osamaville. Does the US have a violent history? Hell yes. My point is a little violence can go a long way especially when dealing with not so peaceful people who understand only and only one language. Cheers.

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 03 Jul 2012 21:40

Amazing that the unfavorable rating of the Poaks in India is no higher than Japan. This a nice article on how the Poaks are hated world wide.

http://indrus.in/articles/2012/07/03/wh ... 16119.html

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jul 2012 21:44

That effect is due to the creation of non-state actors on whom the anger is directed at. The average TSP gets a free ride in India. All those sufi music singers who throng Bollywood are all advance guards of the savages.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 04 Jul 2012 04:19

Hyderabad Doctor says:

Diabetics can fast for Ramzan!
Guess he wants to do his best to have them meet their raisins.

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Jul 2012 07:08

ramana wrote:Hyderabad Doctor says:

Diabetics can fast for Ramzan!
Guess he wants to do his best to have them meet their raisins.

Moving from one Southern Indian State Capital to another ...............

A method to get the green colours of Mohammadden religion displayed in lands that are as yet not Darul Islam, like India, creates a rumpus in Kerala.

Kerala Education Ministry headed by a Minister belonging to the communal political party representing adherents of the Mohammaddenism, the Indian Union Muslim League ( IUML ), pronounces a fatwa dictating that female teachers must wear blouses that are coloured green which happens to be the colour that represents the Mohammadden religion :

Green blouse makes IUML opponents see red

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 05 Jul 2012 04:59

Mentally ill Poak barbecued for ripping pages of the "holy" Quran. I like this comment:

We are a sick nation and burden on humanity.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/403534/blas ... oly-quran/

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 06 Jul 2012 06:09

is islam to blame

There’s an acute deficit in development and freedom in the Muslim world. But flirtation with authoritarianism could be linked more to millennia of Arab history and culture rather than with Islam

In his seminal work, Muslim Society, eminent British social anthropologist Ernest Gellner boldly asserted that, judged by various criteria, “of the three great Western monotheism, [Islam is] the one closest to modernity.”(comparing the 3 abrahamic ones onlee) He goes on say that had the Arabs won at Poitiers and gone on to conquer and convert Europe, the modern rational spirit and its expression in business and bureaucracy could only have arisen from Islamic thought. A Muslim Europe would have saved Hegel from indulging in tortuous arguments to explain how an earlier faith, Christianity, is more final and absolute than a chronologically later one, namely Islam. And in 1770, Edward Gibbon had little difficulty imagining Islamic theology being taught in Oxford and across Britain.

But there’s an acute deficit in development and freedom in the Muslim world, evident from the United Nations and World Bank Development reports, giving rise to contentious debate about the causes. Culprits include Islamic theology and culture, oil, Arab culture and institutions, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, dessert terrain and institutions, weak civil society and the subservient status of women.

According to the late economic historian Angus Maddison, in the years 1000 AD the Middle East’s share of the world’s gross domestic product was larger than Europe’s – 10 percent compared with 9 percent. By 1700 the Middle East’s share had fallen to just 2 percent and Europe’s had risen to 22 percent.

(islam was in its infancy at 1000 ad hence not a threat to all activities in arap land)

But these reasons are unsatisfactory because Islamic scripture is more pro-business than Christian texts, and for usury Torah and Bible do the same. The Prophet Mohammed and his first wife, Khadija, were very successful merchants.Many Muslims blame their economic backwardness on Western imperialism. So why did a once-mighty civilization succumb to the West?

Duke University economist Timur Kuran, in his book The Long Divergence: How Islamic Law Held Back the Middle East, persuasively discards these and related explanations. He marshals impressive empirical evidence to show that what slowed economic development in the Middle East was not colonialism or geography or incompatibility between Islam and capitalism, but laws covering business partnerships and inheritance practices. These institutions benefited the Middle Eastern economy in the early centuries of Islam, but starting around the 10th century they began to act as a drag on economic development by slowing or blocking the emergence of central features of modern economic life – private capital accumulation, corporations, large-scale production and impersonal exchange.

(on what is it based on -- more islam!!)

The most durable and successful business partnerships in the Muslim world were operated by local non-Muslims.

(that is not due to islam)

Inheritance customs hindered business consolidation because when a Muslim merchant died, his estate was split among surviving family members which prevented capital accumulation and stymied long-lasting capital-intensive companies. The resulting organizational stagnation thus prevented the Muslim mercantile community from remaining competitive with its western counterparts.

( this is common in many cultures even today including sdres. this is bull shitting of highest order)

Likewise, research by Harvard economist Eric Chaney debunks theories that the root cause of the democracy deficit in the Middle East is Islam or Arab cultural patterns, oil, the Arab-Israeli conflict or desert ecology. The democratic deficit, as reflected in the prevalence of autocracies in the Muslim-Arab world, is real, Chaney notes, but it’s a product of the long-run influence of control structures developed in the centuries following the Arab conquest

(tribal laws and regulations developed before prophet and used as a tool spectacularly under islam)

Read how islam is the cause--

Unlike Bernard Lewis, who argues that Muslim “rage” for having lost cultural primacy that was once theirs to the West is the root cause of their current conditions, Chaney has a more grounded historical explanation. In the ninth century, (islamic hadiths were compiled during this period) according to Chaney, rulers across this region began to use slave armies as opposed to their native population to staff armies. These slave armies allowed rulers to achieve independence from local military and civilian groups and helped remove constraints on the sovereign in pre-modern Islamic societies. In this autocratic environment, religious leaders(read islamic) emerged as the only check on the rulers’ power. Religious leaders cooperated with the army to design a system that proved hostile to alternative centers of power. This historical institutional configuration which divided the power between the sovereign backed by his slave army and religious elites was not conducive to producing democratic institutions. Instead, religious and military elites worked together to perpetuate what Chaney calls “classical” institutional equilibrium – which is often referred to as Islamic law – designed to promote and protect their interests.

(IOW islam helps in maintaining a autocratic rule which was already prevailing pre islamic age in the desert)

Regions incorporated into the Islamic world after they were conquered by non-Arab Muslim armies, such as India and the Balkans, and where Islam spread by conversion, for example, Indonesia, Malaysia and Sub-Saharan Africa, did not adopt the classical framework. Their institutions continued to be shaped by local elite which preserved political and cultural continuity.

(non islamic cultures)

Consequently democratic deficit has remained an enduring legacy in the Arab world and in lands conquered by the Arab armies and remained under Islamic rule from 1100 AD onwards. But Islamic countries such as Turkey incorporated into the Islamic world by non-Arab Muslim armies or by conversions the democratic developments have followed a more progressive trajectory.

The events unfolding in Egypt and actions of the Supreme Council Armed Forces to grab power in the face of Muslim Brotherhood’s electoral victories sharpen the possibility of further violent confrontation. Failure of the UN monitors to stop the Syrian state from murdering and suppressing its people will only accentuate sectarian violence and bloodshed. It will take time to dismantle authoritarian institutions and mindsets of their minders.

But there is one clear sign that Muslim countries will follow different trajectories. Countries like Turkey, Albania, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia are more likely to defy history than the Arab countries, but poverty and weak civil institutions remain obstacles to democratic change.

(these countries have some non islamic cultures hence if properly channelised might benefit in the coming decades relatively to arap lands)

whole article drips with islam is to be blamed IMO.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 06 Jul 2012 21:59

German court bans circumcision.
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com ... ision.html

Pattom · Post by **Pattom** » 06 Jul 2012 22:34

Wasn't sure where to post this, or if it has been posted before:

Aurangzeb responsible for 4.6 million deaths

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Jul 2012 07:00

krisna wrote:is islam to blame
In his seminal work, Muslim Society, eminent British social anthropologist Ernest Gellner boldly asserted that, judged by various criteria, “of the three great Western monotheism, [Islam is] the one closest to modernity.

My God offered me 3 cows in a dream. One had one leg, the second had two, the third had 3 legs. I chose the three legged cow as it was closest to modernity and then told my followers to cut one leg off all cows to make them like God intended them to be

This is the level of logic and scholarship that is accepted as secular gyan in the world.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 08 Jul 2012 02:33

x-post

A Bangladeshi Driver being abused and shown his place by one of his Islamic fourfathers.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 08 Jul 2012 04:46

what "forefather"? Arabs are not his forefathers. that's delusion caused by Islam.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 08 Jul 2012 06:42

devesh wrote:what "forefather"? Arabs are not his forefathers. that's delusion caused by Islam.

^^Sorry,
I got confused because the driver, Abdullah Akthar Ali (Exalted Star who is a Slave of Allah) ,
>was given an Arabic name,
>speaks in Arabic with his master,
>says Alhamdulillah (Praise to God) every time his master calls him a Dog.
>Finally clinching words were
"Abuser: Saudi Arabia is your father you dog!
Victim: My Father."

So i assumed he was an Arab.

Now that i watch the video again .. he IS folding his hands and praying to the his master like a kafir Hindu when he was spit at ,so now iam not so sure.
May be he is some inferior type of Arab ?
To rephrase a good doctor,

**** wrote:Is "----------" Arab or not?

If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it must be a peacock.

Later Add

English translation supplied by Live Leak user “Kookidd”
...........
Victim: For my son’s future
Vitcim: God can see, If God wills you to
Victim: For my son and the future of my mother and son
Victim: That’s it im sorry
Abuser: Why are you saying that the Saudi government isn’t any good?
Victim: No i never said that Saudi Government is not good!
*Smack*
Abuser: Why are you saying that the Saudi government isn’t any good?
*Smack*
Abuser: You think Saudi Arabia is scared of America you animal?
*Smack*
Victim: I .. I .. I am only making a future from here… I am only making a future from here..
*Smack*
Abuser: Why are you saying that the Saudi government isn’t any good?
Victim: Finish
Victim: I never talked about Saudi Arabia, I see a National as a National (I guess hes trying to show respect by saying that)
Abuser: Kiss
*kiss*
Abuser: Kiss
*kiss*
Abuser: Is Saudi Arabia good or not good?
Victim: Good! Good!
Abuser: Saudi Arabia is your father you dog!
Victim: My Father.
Abuser: Your Government “Same Same” the dog of Saudi you dog!
*Smack*
Abuser: The dog of Saudi Arabia!
*Smack*
Abuser: You dog!
*Smack*
Abuser: You dog!
*Smack*
Abuser: You dog!
*Smack*
Victim (Crying): Its alright!
Abuser: Whats your name?
Victim: Abdullah
Abuser: Abdullah, who is an animal?
Victim(Continuing): Akdar Ali (I think that’s his family name)
Abuser: Akdar Ali?
Abuser: “Toof” (Spitting)
Abuser: Oh you Akdar Ali you animal!
Abuser: Saudi Arabia is like an animal huh?
Victim: No No!
Victim: 100%, 100% (Trying to say it’s definitely not)
Abuser: What is Saudi Arabia?
Victim: You see, the best!
*Interrupted*
Abuser (Shouting): What is Saudi Arabia?
Victim: You see, the best country in the world!
Abuser: The best country in the world?
Victim: The Land of peace and blessing!
Abuser: The Land of peace and blessing..
Abuser: and you? what are you?
Victim: That’s all, you see I’m a muslim
*Interrupted*
Abuser: You, what are you?
Victim: Thanks be to God, I am Bangladesh
Abuser: You are an animal.
Abuser: You are what?
Victim: An Animal
Abuser: Kiss, you animal
*kiss*
Abuser: Is there anything else u wanna say about Saudi Arabia?
Victim: No, No
*Smack*
Abuser: Huh?
Victim: 100%, 100%
*Smack*
Abuser: The government of Saudi Arabia, is on top of your mother’s head you son of a dog!
Victim: Finish
Abuser: Huh?
Victim: Finish please, yes ok
Abuser: Is there anything else you wanna say about Saudi Arabia?
*Smack*
Victim(Crying): No
*Smack*
Abuser: Saudi Arabia is scared of America, you dog?
Abuser: Huh?
Victim: No
*Interrupted*
Abuser(Shouting): The whole world is afraid of Saudi Arabia you animal!
Victim: Yes, yes you’re right, finish
Abuser: Huh?
Victim, Yes, yes you’re right, finish
Abuser: I swear to God if you say anything about Saudi Arabia another time!!
*Smack*
Victim: No ill never speak about Saudi Arabia
Abuser: Kiss here.
*kiss*
Abuser: Go on then move you animal

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 08 Jul 2012 20:45

krisna wrote:is islam to blame
In his seminal work, Muslim Society, eminent British social anthropologist Ernest Gellner boldly asserted that, judged by various criteria, “of the three great Western monotheism, [Islam is] the one closest to modernity.

The Wiki article on Ernest Gellner says:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Gellner

Gellner was not without his critics. His own daughter, Sarah Gellner, revealed that one of her father's favourite jokes was, "Rape, rape, rape, all summer long"

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n16/letters

I never got on with him. I believed he never liked me, never admired anything I did, made me feel constantly inadequate and disappointing, if not downright embarrassing. Perhaps the problem was due simply to my being a certain type of woman. Whatever else he was, Ernest Gellner was not a feminist. Anyone familiar with his work would agree that the absence of interest in gender in his anthropological and sociological output is striking given that, as Collini says, he wasn’t a man to let his own ignorance on any subject hold him back. I think that, sensing his own instincts here were out of place, he never found anything acceptable to say on the subject. Many of his favourite jokes were frankly unacceptable. ‘Rape, rape, rape, all summer long’ was one. But that didn’t hold him back in private.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 09 Jul 2012 00:11

Islamophobe (is-slahm-o-fohb) - A non-Muslim who knows more than they are supposed to know about Islam.

Islamophobia is a fear of losing life or liberty to Islamic rule merely because the laws, sacred texts, and traditional practices of Islam demand the submission of culture, politics, religion and all social expression. It tends to afflict those most familiar with the religion while sparing the more gullible.

Unlike Infidelophobia (Quranically-inspired hatred for non-Muslims), Islamophobia doesn't involve dead bodies, but rather bruised Muslim feelings, which - according to the teachings of the faith - are far more important than the lives of infidels.

In Muhammad's day, Islamophobia was treated with a practice known as beheading. Since this is now impractical outside of the Muslim world, the condition is best addressed by means of prevention. Such preventive measures include willful ignorance (best assisted with a strong dose of taqiyya).

The fact is that when Islam checks in, a lot of folks wind up checking out... permanently. Therefore Islamophobes are a pretty broad group.

Islamophobes include:

Hindus, Christians, and Jews who don’t want to be forced into a political system that treats them as third-class citizens. (Islamic teaching)

Atheists who want the freedom to live openly and challenge religious orthodoxy in the public spherre. (Islamic teaching)

Women who don’t want to be draped in black bags. (Islamic teaching)

Heterosexual males who prefer not to see women draped in black bags. (Islamic teaching)

Drinkers (this one's important). (Islamic teaching)

Artists (not quite as important). (Islamic teaching)

Historians who don’t want to see priceless manuscripts and books burned just because they disagree with the Quran.

Homosexuals who don’t want to be beaten to death. (Islamic teaching)

Anyone else who believes that consenting adults should not be killed or tortured over sexual practices. (Islamic teaching)

Dog lovers. (Islamic teaching).

Animal Rights activists and anyone else who is opposed to the cruel and unethical treatment of animals. (Islamic teaching)

Mothers who don’t want their daughters killed over a man’s “honor.” (Islamic teaching)

Females who want to keep their clitoris. (Islamic teaching)

Intellectuals who value freedom of conscience and public dissent. (Islamic teaching)

Anyone believing that the value of a person's life is not determined by their religious beliefs. (Islamic teaching)

Feminists who believe that women should not be made subordinate to men by a religion which openly insists that females are the intellectual and legal inferior of males. (Islamic teaching)

Anyone else who objects to a religion in which a woman’s identity is defined by her relationship to a man. (Islamic teaching)

The left-handed (Islamic teaching).

Liberals who don’t believe that culture and moral values should be established by a state-sponsored religion. (Get past The Religion Barrier)

Conservatives who believe in preserving the Western heritage responsible for the civil freedom, political liberty and economic success which has attracted the flood of immigrants from Muslim nations, where such values are conspicuously lacking. (Islamic teaching)

Muslims who would like the freedom to leave Islam. (Islamic teaching)

And many more...

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages ... phobia.htm

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 09 Jul 2012 04:46

Sultan Qaboos of Oman - His views on Oman
Qaboos Philosophy

-----------------

MUSCAT 00000000 005 OF 006

¶14. (S/NF) As is his habit, the Sultan often begins conversations

with a discussion of whatever may be on his mind at the time or a
political matter of the day. In addition, when discussing a
specific subject he frequently digresses if there is an especially
relevant historical or religious point to be made. These are
summarized below in particular order.

-- Science and Islam: Those who sit in a mosque all day and recite

prayers are not worshipping, he argued. Worshipping God, according

to Islam, means "using the gifts given us by God to discover His
plan for the universe." The Muslim world at one time led the
entire world in science, but 500 years ago, Muslims decided it was
better to just pray. "Since then we've contributed very little to
science, literature or the arts." (Comment: The Sultan is an avid

amateur astronomer, organic farmer and classical organist. End
comment.)

-- Marriage and Women in Islam: Always ready to criticize Wahabis,

Sultan Qaboos vigorously attacked the recent "fatwa" of a Saudi
cleric allowing the marriage of girls as young as ten. "Do they
think women are animals for breeding?" he asked rhetorically, and
again cited Muslim "intellectual laziness" for failure to
understand the Quran and its relevance to the modern world. He
also referred to Saudi restrictions on a woman's ability to travel
alone. "It's some of their men who need escorts, not their women!"

In Oman, women enjoy the same rights to travel as men.

-- Sexual Behavior: "Relations between two adults are no one's
business, least of all the government's." He said he would not
permit his government to interfere in the relationship of two
adults unless it became abusive or threatened to upset "social
stability." (Comment: The latter is codeword for Oman's arcane
and still largely tribal society. This is the only instance I have

heard him raise what is customarily considered a taboo subject in
conservative Oman. End comment.)

-- Freedom: "I want all Omanis to enjoy full freedom -- personal,
religious, economic and social." But in this part of the world,
there are always a few who want such freedoms but are unwilling to
accept the responsibility that comes with freedom.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Jul 2012 05:36

Is he Shia?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 09 Jul 2012 06:00

Ibadhi. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadi#Doct ... unni_Islam

member_23367 · Post by **member_23367** » 09 Jul 2012 20:20

‘Freedom & Justice’ Party brings back sex-slave marriages

http://barenakedislam.com/2012/07/08/eg ... marriages/

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 10 Jul 2012 08:56

The two scum bags who committed this crime should be drawn and quartered. As for the villagers who burned down her house, I think their village would be a nice testing site for a Nirbhay delivered FAE.

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas ... to-3169098

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Jul 2012 06:42

I find this one a bit incredible, but who knows?

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3158/islam-sodomy

Not only did the original "underwear bomber" Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri hide explosives in his rectum to assassinate Saudi Prince Muhammad bin Nayef—they met in 2009 after the 22-year-old holy warrior "feigned repentance for his jihadi views"—but al-Asiri apparently had fellow jihadis repeatedly sodomize him to "widen" his anus in order to accommodate the explosives— all in accordance with the fatwas [religious edicts] of Islamic clerics.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Jul 2012 07:45

A_Gupta wrote:I find this one a bit incredible, but who knows?

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3158/islam-sodomy

Not only did the original "underwear bomber" Abdullah Hassan al-Asiri hide explosives in his rectum to assassinate Saudi Prince Muhammad bin Nayef—they met in 2009 after the 22-year-old holy warrior "feigned repentance for his jihadi views"—but al-Asiri apparently had fellow jihadis repeatedly sodomize him to "widen" his anus in order to accommodate the explosives— all in accordance with the fatwas [religious edicts] of Islamic clerics.

AOA!!

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 13 Jul 2012 08:06

Did the fatwa come before or after the sodomy. Just asking

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2012 09:05

A_Gupta wrote:I find this one a bit incredible, but who knows?

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3158/islam-sodomy

After praising Allah, the sheikh's fatwa began by declaring that sodomy is forbidden in Islam,

However, jihad comes first, for it is the pinnacle of Islam, and if the pinnacle of Islam can only be achieved through sodomy, then there is no wrong in it. For the overarching rule of [Islamic] jurisprudence asserts that "necessity makes permissible the prohibited." And if obligatory matters can only be achieved by performing the prohibited, then it becomes obligatory to perform the prohibited, and there is no greater duty than jihad. After he sodomizes you, you must ask Allah for forgiveness and praise him all the more. And know that Allah will reward the jihadis on the Day of Resurrection, according to their intentions—and your intention, Allah willing, is for the victory of Islam, and we ask that Allah accept it of you.

If this story is true islam has to be the funniest joke on earth.

Now look at this. Nothing is prohibited in Islam if it can be shown to be obligatory for jihad. Sodomy to dliate the bum hole so it can hold dynamite is obligatory in Islam if you are going to kill yourself in the name of Allah and his Prophet.

But what about the fellow who uses his penis and derives pleasure from sodomy? I mean look at it his way. You have two pious islamic men who want to do jihad. One wants jihad and to do sodomy. So he tells the other guy, "Let me sodomize you and dilate your anus, so you can then put bombs in there and go and blow yourself up so Allah gives you sex in heaven. I get me sex right here and Allah approves that." I mean wtf?

What if the other guy says "No I'll sodomize you and dilate your anus. You blow yourself up and get houris in heaven" In this scheme of things Allah approves the person who is dominant as the dilator and the dilated man as the bomber. This is religion? Religion of peace?

In the first place a man has to actually get an erection when he sees a male bottom. If he can do that then Allah is an ejaculation away. Amazing. What a fun religion.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Jul 2012 09:30

What if the other guy says "No I'll sodomize you and dilate your anus. You blow yourself up and get houris in heaven" In this scheme of things Allah approves the person who is dominant as the dilator and the dilated man as the bomber. This is religion? Religion of peace? In the first place a man has to actually get an erection when he sees a male bottom. If he can do that then Allah is an ejaculation away. Amazing. What a fun religion.

Jeff Dunham - Achmed the Dead Terrorist
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Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Jul 2012 01:10

India. 'Talibani' panchayat forbids girls from using cell phones
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The self-styled guardians of morality and social values in India are getting more brazen day-by-day. In a Talibani diktat slapping several restrictions on women, a village panchayat in Baghpat district of Uttar Pradesh - around 40 km from the national Capital - banned girls from using mobile phones when out on roads and women less than 40 years old from going out shopping. The panchayat of Asara village also banned love marriages and ordered girls to cover their heads while stepping out of their houses. The decisions were taken by the panchayat in February this year. It met on Wednesday to ensure strict enforcement of its decisions. 'We noticed that some girls and their parents were not taking our order seriously. So, we held a meeting on Wednesday in which we resolved that those who defy the order would be first ostracised and then expelled from the village. There are other ways also to make them follow the instructions. But that would be decided when such a situation arises,' Mohammed Mohkam (50), a member of the panchayat, said. While 70 per cent villagers are Muslims, 30 per cent are Hindus, most of them Jats. The meeting on Wednesday was attended by 200 people, representing the two communities in proportion to their population. To be sure, there were some welcome decisions also as the panchayat ruled that taking or giving dowry would be a punishable offence.