Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May 2012

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 12 Jul 2012 23:15

^^^ Can't you see? Those are the things highly desired by each paki.

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 12 Jul 2012 23:22

Kaffirs only will read it left to right.
A real jihadi (nanah too) will read right to left: alif, bey ... and understand the real meaning.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 12 Jul 2012 23:28

By the way I have a question for Paklurks. We all know that America has been killing brave Pakistani freedom fighters on daily basis. Countless innocent pakistani civilians have also been killed by the American terrorist drones. We also know that Pakistan's mighty army has accumulated a huge quantity of missiles of various ranges( both ballistic and cruise).For eg.Raad,Babur,Shaheen etc. Additionally we know that whole of Afghanistan including the God forsaken American Firebases( including the important bases such as Bagram and Kandhar) lies within the range of these missiles. Then why is'nt the Mighty Pakistani military retaliating?

I mean it is one thing if Pakistan was a weak country like Somalia with no offensive capabilities and hence was subjected to all this humiliation and indignities without any chance to retaliate and redeem itself.But then Pakistan is no Somalia. It is the mightiest islamic power ever present with all the capabilities needed to take the war to any enemy. It is the pearl of the Muslim world. It's army is Allah's chosen army. Then why it chooses to suffer in silence ?

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 13 Jul 2012 00:11

^
yes Pakistan defeated one superpower in the 80s and caused its downfall. Why are they not taking on the other one now?

lakshmikanth · Post by **lakshmikanth** » 13 Jul 2012 00:46

I think the whores plan was to use her (or his) other GUBO master: the one with "the tallel than mountain mijjile", with "needs-that-are-deepel-than-the-deepest-ocean" to ward off Unkil's 'deep' violations of sau-virginity.

But then Deepel and Unkil are deeply entangled in a different kind of embrace, so it is an awkward three-way soup now, with everyone ungly-ing everyone else.

This was not the case with USSR. USSR and USA were engaged in a zero sum game of a nature much different than that of current unkil-deepel embrace and hence the whore could win.

I have no idea how the current threesome will end. But being a neighbor of the prolific whore who is simultaneously engaged with 2 gigantic customers, all of whom care about their own H&D&Sau-virginity, I hope we Indians start manufacturing some high quality dis-infectant soap and assorted cleaning materials in preparation for the "fallout", we might have a lot of spillage seeping into our backyard to deal with even if we dont like it.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 13 Jul 2012 02:10

Quote by Laskhmikanth
This was not the case with USSR. USSR and USA were engaged in a zero sum game of a nature much different than that of current unkil-deepel embrace and hence the whore could win.

I have no idea how the current threesome will end. But being a neighbor of the prolific whore who is simultaneously engaged with 2 gigantic customers, all of whom care about their own H&D&Sau-virginity,

I agree!! Only one country in the whole wide world could break this threesome deadlock and that is India under a good leadership.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Jul 2012 04:19

Poaqtomobile
Poqautomobile sales hit highest level in 4 years[/b]

KARACHI: Tax relief and yellow cab scheme have pushed the Poaqautomobile companies’ sales upward despite tough circumstances like inflows of imported cars and shortage of imported spare parts, as the industry managed to complete the financial year 2011-12 with highest selling units of 179,000 after four years.
The figures made available said that the Poaqautomobile sales including cars, light commercial vehicles (LCVs) and jeeps showed growth of 22 percent in financial year 2011-12 as compared to 146,000 units in the previous financial year.
The sales are believed to be the highest annualised sales after four years as last time in 2008-09 total sales were recorded at 187,000 units by the industry. Among the individual categories, cars segment sales surged by a massive 23 percent on yearly basis to 157,000 units, whereas LCVs and Pickups segment sales picked up by 18 percent on yearly basis to 21,800 units.The sales growth attributed to heavy purchasing of cars deferred in the month of July from June 2011 in which general sales tax (GST) was cut to 16 percent from 17 percent. The Punjab government’s yellow cab scheme imparted a significant role to drive the industry sales growth as 20,000 units were planned to be sold out throughout the financial year. Whereas 18 percent increase in workers’ remittance that reached to $13.2 billion also contributed towards a record growth of automobile industry.It is also believed that cars sales jumped up in June in anticipation of rise in prices before EURO II compliance.Therefore, it has been recorded that car sales stood at 19,000 units in June, which is the highest monthly sales after almost five years. Previously the record sales of 21,000 units were witnessed in August 2007. Analysts said that automobile sales are likely to continue upward trend in the next financial year, as the car scheme and heavy occasional purchase of passenger cars might not happen again.It is due to the fact that more than 50,000 reconditioned cars were imported in the current financial year after the government relaxed the age of used car from three years to five years. The high inflows of imported cars not only increased the competition but impacted negatively on the growth of local automakers sales.The auto sales have been seen on the decline as they stood at 97,000 units in the first half, while its growth was recorded at 82,000 units in the second of half of the outgoing financial year.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2012 05:57

darshhan wrote: I mean it is one thing if Pakistan was a weak country like Somalia with no offensive capabilities and hence was subjected to all this humiliation and indignities without any chance to retaliate and redeem itself.But then Pakistan is no Somalia. It is the mightiest islamic power ever present with all the capabilities needed to take the war to any enemy. It is the pearl of the Muslim world. It's army is Allah's chosen army. Then why it chooses to suffer in silence ?

There is no suffering because Allah created Pakistan so that Muslims could be slaves of America. Allah understands that Americans are taller, and whiter and more handsome than Pakistanis and Allah knows that Muslims will work for America and kill other Muslims. Pakistanis need Americans as masters.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 13 Jul 2012 06:42

by Shiv
There is no suffering because Allah created Pakistan so that Muslims could be slaves of America. Allah understands that Americans are taller, and whiter and more handsome than Pakistanis and Allah knows that Muslims will work for America and kill other Muslims. Pakistanis need Americans as masters.

Pakistan choose to suffer in silence because USA is too far away from their reach. The day Pakistans have ICBM they will threaten their biggest customer!! It is the nature of the whore!! so whoever gives them ICBM capability will rule them and I predict Chinese will do that in next 10 years (if things remain same as they are now).

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2012 06:53

SBajwa wrote:
by Shiv
There is no suffering because Allah created Pakistan so that Muslims could be slaves of America. Allah understands that Americans are taller, and whiter and more handsome than Pakistanis and Allah knows that Muslims will work for America and kill other Muslims. Pakistanis need Americans as masters.
Pakistan choose to suffer in silence because USA is too far away from their reach. The day Pakistans have ICBM they will threaten their biggest customer!! It is the nature of the whore!! so whoever gives them ICBM capability will rule them and I predict Chinese will do that in next 10 years (if things remain same as they are now).

No Bajwaji. Muslims of Pakistan are traditionally slaves to white man. It is Allah's wish. Just look at history. Who won World War 2 for the British? Pakistani mussalmaans. Who won the cold war for the Americans? The Pakistani mussalmaan. Who has made more sacrifices than anyone else in America's war to terrorize Muslims? The Pakistani mussalmaan. Who is white Christian superpower's most faithful slave? The Pakistani mussalmaan.

Look at the other smaller factors. An American, Raymond Davis shoots two innocent Muslims from his car. But he is let off when Americans paid money. American helicopters came into Pakistan and killed 3-4 people. All Muslims. And the Pakistani army proved that they that helped America. 24 Pakistani soldiers became shaheed in a cowardly attack by NATO aircraft, and still those aircraft are getting fuel and bombs being transported by Pakistani Mussalmaans through Pakistan. American drones are killing thousands of Pakistani Muslims, but still the American supplied F-16s will not be used to shoot down even one. Allah would be angry if Muslims went against their master, America. Pakistan's suffering is only because some Pakistani Mussalmaans are not fully understanding the role of slave to America that Allah has given them. All that the Pakistani mussalmaan has to do is bow his head and submit to America. That will give Pakistan peace, power and wealth.

Allah truly made Pakistan to ensure that the Muslims of Pakistan understood their true purpose. To be slave of America.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 13 Jul 2012 07:08

Shiv ji made amend to make his thoughts to be PC

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Jul 2012 07:18

Doc Dont Understand Pakistani true Musalmaans. By serving white superpower, they are true to the Deen and Scripture.

Dr Wesley Muhammad vs Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi: Was the Prophet Black or White?

http://drwesleywilliams.com/yahoo_site_ ... 174109.pdf

“Whosoever says that the Prophet is Black is a Disbeliever”: The Diversification of the Islamic Empire and the Developing Portrayal of Muhammad Dr Wesley Williams Lecture given February 7, 2011 at Michigan State University.
Al-Qā∙ī ‘Iyā∙ address the controversies of his day regarding the Prophet and remedies them. Along with clarifying Muhammad’s perfect internal and external qualities as he imagined these to be, al-Qadi enumerates the judgments against those – Muslim and non-Muslim – who affirm imperfections for God’s chosen Prophet. For example, twice al-Qadi reports the judgment that, “Whoever says that the Prophet is black should be killed. The Prophet was not black”. Other versions of this fatwa announce that such a one who makes this claim is disbeliever. This declaration of course raises its own set of questions, like: Why would such a fatwa even be necessary except there was in circulation among Muslims the claim that the Prophet was black? On what was such a claim based? And why would describing Muhammad as black, whatever its historical merits, be so offensive as to warrant death or cancel one’s Islam?
What I discovered was that al-Qadi was not speaking in

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2012 07:36

pentaiah wrote:Shiv ji made amend to make his thoughts to be PC

No jokes. Allah designed Pakistan to populate it with Muslims who would be bowing towards America every time they turn to Mecca. Any other country in the world, when you bow towards Mecca, you are not bowing to America. Allah does not do things simp-simply for fun. Pakistanis will never turn their backs to Mecca, (and America)

See this map and prayer direction (click on image). The black line and arrow is from Pakistan. Others are in green.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 13 Jul 2012 08:08

darshhan wrote: Sharma ji, Actually SBajwaji is somewhat right because when you start looking at the track record of previous superpowers like Britain,Germans,Japanese,Turks,Russia,Ghengiz Khan etc America starts looking like a saint.Atleast relatively.And yes it has contributed a lot to the world through many innovations.

But still it is our(India's) most powerful enemy. I don't care if America has been a mother Teresa to the rest of the world. What matters to me is that America has inflicted tremendous damage on India(with or without the use of Proxies) and got away with it clean.

And that is why we should ensure that USA leaves Subcontinent and preferably the whole of Asia as quickly as possible.America is the greatest destabilizer in this whole region.

Intrinsically, the US is neither a friend nor an enemy ... understand the nature of the deep state elites that control the US, and their long-term objectives. The thread that deals with such issues is http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... =24&t=5525

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jul 2012 08:10

KLNMurthy wrote:^
yes Pakistan defeated one superpower in the 80s and caused its downfall. Why are they not taking on the other one now?

Murthy saheb, who said they are not taking on the remaining superpower ? They are telling their people that they are indeed taking them on and winning.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Jul 2012 08:40

Stilling a stormy relationship

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2012 09:15

abhishek_sharma wrote:Stilling a stormy relationship

Here is a quiz that you should take before you read the article. I will post two quotes from the article. You read the quotes and guess the nationality of the author of the article. Now now. Don't cheat.

Quote 1

there does not appear to be a center of gravity to decision making in either side to lead the building of a lasting relationship.

Quote 2

This may be the time to reopen discussions on practicable ways of involving senior Pakistani military officers based in border coordination centers in targeting decisions and rebuilding the intelligence cooperation that netted many al-Qaeda leaders in the past.

The nationality of the author of the Foreignpolicy article is
1. American
2. Afghan
3. Indian
4. Pakistani

pradeepe · Post by **pradeepe** » 13 Jul 2012 09:28

End India's one-sided love affair

Diplomacy requires us to be courteous, not foolishly soft... There’s no rule in diplomacy that says we should indulge in strategic masochism just to look good

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 13 Jul 2012 09:49

shiv wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:Stilling a stormy relationship
Here is a quiz that you should take before you read the article. I will post two quotes from the article. You read the quotes and guess the nationality of the author of the article. Now now. Don't cheat.

Quote 1
there does not appear to be a center of gravity to decision making in either side to lead the building of a lasting relationship.
Quote 2
This may be the time to reopen discussions on practicable ways of involving senior Pakistani military officers based in border coordination centers in targeting decisions and rebuilding the intelligence cooperation that netted many al-Qaeda leaders in the past.
The nationality of the author of the Foreignpolicy article is
1. American
2. Afghan
3. Indian
4. Pakistani

OK, I thought it was (1), but the author is fairly Americanized anyway.

And the moral of the story is?

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 13 Jul 2012 10:00

It is veera Mushti

Therefore a TS Pakistani is the author.
I am honest I did not cheat (like a Typical Paki)

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 13 Jul 2012 10:02

and I am correct.

The begging tone and back stabbing is a inbuilt art for TS Pakis
I saw them everywhere in Europe, South Africa, Mozambique you name it

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jul 2012 10:37

Hina Birkin Khar non-committal on action based on Jundal info

“Today the problems we face, the menace of terrorism is a common problem and if anybody can convince me that there is any other country in the region which suffers from it more than Pakistan I would be happy to sit down and have a conversation.” {Wow ! Bravo Ms. Khar. What a forceful argument. Attention all candle kissers}

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 13 Jul 2012 10:48

SSridhar wrote:Hina Birkin Khar non-committal on action based on Jundal info
“Today the problems we face, the menace of terrorism is a common problem and if anybody can convince me that there is any other country in the region which suffers from it more than Pakistan I would be happy to sit down and have a conversation.” {Wow ! Bravo Ms. Khar. What a forceful argument. Attention all candle kissers}

The response is so tangential so as to make the topic irrelevant. Spoken like a true Paki mard.

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 13 Jul 2012 11:17

Blast near ANP rally venue in Quetta kills 2, injures 12 | Tribune

Two people were killed and 12 others were injured when a blast took place outside the venue for the Awami National Party (ANP) rally in Kuchlak, Express News reported on Friday.

The rally, set to begin after Friday prayers, was being attended by the by the party’s leader in Balochistan.
...

sum · Post by **sum** » 13 Jul 2012 11:29

As usual, any Paki story is suspicious. First reports that the TSPA soldier came over to avoid hunge,ill-treatment etc at border posts and now another story that he actually crossed over to meet his lover

:

Pak soldier crosses border for ‘love’, held

Though the Army was tight lipped over the matter, the police confirmed that a Pakistan Army regular was apprehended in Kerni sector at 6 am on Wednesday.

“We have been told by Army officers that he is a deserter, fed up with the attitude of his seniors,’’ said a senior police officer. Over 36 hours after his apprehension, the soldier is yet to be handed over to the police by the Army, the police officer added.

Sources identified the soldier as Arif Ali, 19, son of Bashir Ahmed of Quetta. He was deployed with Charli Company of 25 Frontier Force at a forward Pakistani post Saifullah2 opposite India’s Kerni village in Poonch district, they said. He was unarmed and in civil dress at the time of his apprehension.

A civilian identity card, Rs 13,300 in Pakistan currency, two SIM cards issued by U Phone and Zong Company, and a leave certificate issued by the Frontier Force were recovered from him.

Sources added that Arif was in love with a girl, who, along with her parents, had come to Poonch from Hazira across the LoC a few days ago. Suspecting that the girl’s parents may get her married to a relative in Poonch, he took leave from his company on the pretext of going home. He crossed over to Kerni, instead, where a sizeable number of people live near the barbed wire fence erected by the Indian Army to check infiltration.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Jul 2012 11:56

vey likely the girl's family told the army about the young majnu's whereabouts and had him arrested

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 13 Jul 2012 12:23

Pakistan mentioned at TEDtalk ,
in reference to the 26/11 attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E97Kgi0sR4

Edit - sorry but the link doesn't embed. But definitely worth a watch.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2012 14:54

pentaiah wrote:It is veera Mushti

Therefore a TS Pakistani is the author.
I am honest I did not cheat (like a Typical Paki)

Yes. The langauge is typical Paki. "Both sides" "neither side" etc and "Paki army should be involved in anti-terror ops" etc

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Jul 2012 14:56

Pranav wrote: And the moral of the story is?

1. Jo Lahore mein gandu woh Washington mein bhi gandu
2. Once a Paki, always a moron

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jul 2012 15:25

Rajdeep wrote:Pakistan mentioned at TEDtalk ,
in reference to the 26/11 attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E97Kgi0sR4

Didn't realize that the terrorists found out the identity of that guest in the Taj by googling. Chilling indeed. A good presentation by Marc Goodman. Thanks for posting.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Jul 2012 16:02

Select Nuggets from TFT

Don't befriend India!

Famous chief reporter Ansar bbasi wrote in Jang that becoming intimate with India would damage the identity of Pakistan. Some people say if we make up with India then we won't need the Army. But was Jinnah wrong in creating the Army? Why are we so irresponsible? India is busy making conspiracies against Pakistan together with the US and Israel. Do seek solutions to disputes through talks with India but don't destroy your separate identity. We run the risk of losing our language Urdu to Hindi. Nawaz Sharif was shocked when a child visiting his family said 'sundar' (pretty) instead of khubsurat.

Azim Mian warns!

World famous US-based journalist Azim Mian wrote in Jang and summed up the Chicago summit by saying that America had got out of Afghanistan and put the responsibility of dealing with Afghanistan on Nato states which meant the US is now free of all trouble. Zardari government should let its foreign office diplomats be free to act in the interest of Pakistan and get out of the diktat of NATO countries and not only think of Zardari's personal interest. He said he personally knew that the Foreign office was capable of taking on the US and Nato {Allah-o-Akbar} but was not being allowed to do so. Zardari had used the internal situation to his benefit but he should not do the same at the global level.

Dr Mubashir Hasan praises Taliban

Famous intellectual and political leader Dr Mubashir Hasan of Bhutto Shaheed Party told Jang that the Taliban were a party of great revolutionaries who by their just struggle had defeated the Americans in Afghanistan. He said Zardari and Gilani did not have the guts to stop the supply route of the defeated powers.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 13 Jul 2012 16:04

From Prof. Walter Mead's blog

The fact is, bad as relations are today and much as many Pakistanis hate and fear the United States, America remains one of Pakistan’s only friends. The country does not poll well among its neighbors, or in the Muslim world as a whole. Few Muslims anywhere see Pakistan as more than an embarrassment and while the Saudis and some other Gulf Arabs see Pakistan as a source of cheap Muslim labor and a useful counterweight against Iran, there is little admiration or respect.

In the end, Pakistan blinked. This was not an unconditional surrender; the US made some concessions too. However, Pakistan as always is crippled in its foreign policy by what it believes to be its existential confrontation with India — a confrontation it is less able to sustain with every passing year. Pakistan is an angry state and in some ways (primarily because of its weak foundations, the decay of its institutions, its insecure nuclear program and its economic problems) a dangerous one. But it is also a weak state, and it is likely to spend a lot more time blinking than its leaders or its people would like.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 13 Jul 2012 16:43

SSridhar wrote:
Rajdeep wrote:Pakistan mentioned at TEDtalk ,
in reference to the 26/11 attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E97Kgi0sR4
Didn't realize that the terrorists found out the identity of that guest in the Taj by googling. Chilling indeed. A good presentation by Marc Goodman. Thanks for posting.

I am sure there are many such details that have been suppressed by GoI.

kish · Post by **kish** » 13 Jul 2012 18:19

SSridhar wrote:
Roperia wrote:Gunmen Kill Eight Pakistan Police In Lahore Raid - Police | WSJ
What is this obsession with '8' for the More Pious ? It was also 8 at Multan a few days back.

Naah.. Those were target practice. Perfect result has been achieved now.

Gunmen kill 9 police in Pakistan's Lahore

"About 15 of us were sleeping on the roof and some were offering prayers when gunfire started downstairs. Some of my colleagues who went down to see what was happening were killed or wounded," Mohammad Rizwan Shah, 23, told AFP.

Obviously praying didn't help.

Those who did not offer prayers at the appropriate time, were able to run helter-skelter to save their own as**s.

Police also blamed the "same gang" who killed seven security personnel at an army camp in Gujrat, 150 kilometres (100 miles) southeast of Islamabad, on Monday.

he he he.. The "same gang" has become experts in killing security personnel, It doesn't matter if its 7 or 8 or 9

May Allah grant them long lives

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 13 Jul 2012 18:29

The alleged majnu was handed back to the Mujahid Regiment

The meeting was attended by Major Hamid Gul of 653 Mujahid Regiment from Pakistan and Major A Manhas on this side.

from here
There are lovers on both sides but mujahids are only one side. Sometimes they also appear on the other side.
Wonder of coming together of "Hamid Gul", "Mujahid", "Manhas" was specifically planned by the PA (there are M(i)anhas-es on both sides)
He is from Frontier Force and is resident of Quetta. I am sure PA would have been just cool if he was either shot during his attempt or jailed here.
However, would have been fun to see the reaction, if GoI asked for something/somebody in exchange.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 13 Jul 2012 19:01

Saar,
7, 8, 9... I am surprised that you don't get it after wasting so much of your time in BRF. These are advanced math teaching techniques pioneered in the Madarassas to ensure that the students don't forget it easily. Not the stupid SDRE "learning by rote" system. These are much more practical and hands on.

Come on guys. Keep up...

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 13 Jul 2012 19:15

1. Jo Lahore mein gandu woh Washington mein bhi gandu
2. Once a Paki, always a moron

That's so true!! and due to inbreeding each successive generations are getting this gene to be dominant.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 13 Jul 2012 19:22

The desertions have started!!!

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120713/main7.htm

Pak soldier crosses LoC, held
Ravi Krishnan Khajuria & Darshan Bharti
Tribune News Service

Jammu/Poonch, July 12
The Army on Thursday apprehended a Pakistani soldier after he crossed the Line of Control (LoC) in Poonch district of Jammu and Kashmir. Identified as Aarif Ali (19), the soldier was nabbed from forward Kerni post in the Poonch sector close to the LoC around 6.30 am.

Ali claimed that he belongs to the Charlie Company of 25 Frontier Force of the Pakistani Army and was posted at Saifullah-2 post along the LoC. The Frontier Force Regiment of the Pakistan Army guards the LoC opposite the Poonch sector.

“He said poor amenities on other side of the LoC forced him to cross over to this side. We are interrogating him,” said officials.

A civilian identity card, two SIM cards of Pakistani cellular companies and cash of Rs 13,300 have been recovered from the soldier, they said. Ali is son of one Bashir Ahmed and is a resident of Quetta in Pakistan. “No weapons have been found in his possession. But he carried a leave certificate issued by the Frontier Force,” officials added.

Sources said Ali sought asylum soon after crossing over to this side. The Defence Ministry has confirmed that Ali is a regular Pakistani Army soldier. He was recruited in Pakistani Army in 2010.

Trooper seeks asylum

Identified as Aarif Ali (19), the soldier was nabbed from forward Kerni post in the Poonch sector close to the LoC around 6.30 am on Thursday
Ali claimed that he belongs to the Charlie Company of 25 Frontier Force of the Pakistani Army. He has sought asylum in India, saying that amenities in the PoK were very poor
A civilian identity card, two SIM cards of Pakistani cellular companies and cash of Rs 13,300 have been recovered from him. The Army is questioning the soldier

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 13 Jul 2012 21:16

^^

7, 8, 9... I am surprised that you don't get it after wasting so much of your time in BRF. These are advanced math teaching techniques pioneered in the Madarassas to ensure that the students don't forget it easily. Not the stupid SDRE "learning by rote" system. These are much more practical and hands on.

There you go. Now you have 6.

Blast at ANP rally kills six in Quetta

I know they are getting their orders mixed up. Have some patience. They will get it right with repeated practice.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 13 Jul 2012 21:25

From Tahir Ali in Islamabad about treatment of Ahmedias/Qadiani on the wild wild pure lands of pukistan
Pakistan worse than hell for Ahmadis
Posting in Full for its content

While all minorities in Pakistan are under threat, the country has turned as an inferno especially for Ahmadi minorities and either converting their religion or quitting the country seems the only way of their survival.

Pakistan turned like hell for Ahmadis since 1974 when they were declared non-Muslims through the Second Amendment under the Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto government.

When General Zia ul Haq came to power, he brought about even more draconian anti-Ahmadi laws. For decades now, their persecution at the hands of bigots has largely been ignored because of these laws. Defending the rights of the Ahmaddiya community is considered an anathema in Pakistani society.

On Tuesday night six minarets of an Ahmadi place of worship, Baitul Hamd, were demolished by the Kharian city police in Pakistan's Punjab [ Images ] province. The demolition took place on the application of some clerics from Barelvi religious organisation called Tehrik-e-Tahaffuz-e-Islam.

The application asked the police to take action under the Section 298 B and C of the 1984 ordinance, which declares it illegal for Ahmadis to act or look like Muslims, to practice or propagate their faith and to call their worship place a "mosque".

However, there was no court order for demolition. According to Nasir Dar, a local spokesperson of the Ahmadis in Kharian, the six minarets had already been demolished whereas the police would demolish the two bigger ones later on as one was attached to the worship place's electric supply and the other would fall on the building if not taken apart with the help of skilled labour.

Police officer Raja Zahid who led the police team said, "We made sure that we were respectful, but the law of 298-B clearly states that Qadianis cannot call their worship place a 'mosque', so if it cannot be called that, then it cannot resemble the mosque either."

Baitul Hamd was built in 1980, four years before the 1984 ordinance. Saleemuddin, the spokesperson for the Ahmadi community in Pakistan, said, "Is there a patent for the design of a minaret that these people have? All kinds of buildings have minarets and domes as part of their designs; then why can't the Ahmadis retain the ones which are on the pre-1984 worship places?"

For Ahmadis, every day brings forth new incidents of harassment; they feel very unsafe all around Pakistan.

In January 2012, local rigid circles asked the Ahmadis at Satellite Town in Rawalpindi to stop worships in the 'Ewan-e-Tawheed', the place they are using for the last 17 years.

It is the property of Jamaat Ahmaddiya and is used as a place for prayers ever since. The building, according to Ahmadis, was built after the group purchased the land. As a registered organisation, under the relevant rules, they can carry out worship in the building. And after getting permission from the district administration, they installed moveable barriers and a few security guards, but the barriers and guards were removed from the main road in front of the building after some people objected to their presence.

The religious centre was shifted to the current building because the old centre in a building near Committee Chowk in Rawalpindi could not accommodate the worshippers.

On this occasion a press release of Ahmadis appeared that read, "The (Ahmaddiya) community is under attack and there are known security threats to community members from these miscreants. Yet innocent and peaceful Ahmadis are not even allowed to defend or protect themselves."

There is zero tolerance for Ahmadis and their practices in Pakistan. The hatred towards Ahmadis is not only limited to the religious extremist but some people representing other political parties are also behind such activities.

Quite recently a newspaper reported that Lahore [ Images ] Bar Association had banned Shezan (juices) in the lower court complexes of Lahore that fell under the LBA's area of activity.

The reports, which quoted LBA president Chaudhry Zulfiqar as confirming the restriction, said the decision had been justified on the basis of an understanding that the company which produced Shezan had Ahmadis as its owners.

Later on when the issue was raised by the media, Chaudhry Zulfiqar denied the report. Actually a group Khatm-i-Nabuwwat Lawyers' Forum was behind this move.

Like the worship places of Ahmadis, the publications of the sect have also been banned. Last week Pakistan Telecommunication Authority banned a website by the name alislam.org which was controlled by the Ahmaddiya community.

An official of the authority said that the site had been blocked because Ahmadis were not allowed to propagate their religious views under the constitution of Pakistan. The PTA had already blocked several sites with inappropriate content, he added.

Some media reports said that the website was accused of blasphemy against the Holy Prophet and the Muttahida Ulema Board had demanded to shut down the site.

In February this year, Monthly Misbah, a women's magazine published by the Ahmaddiya community in Pakistan for decades, was ordered to be banned on the recommendation of a board of clerics constituted by Shahbaz Sharif, the chief minister of Punjab.

The district coordination officer, Chiniot, Dr Irshad Ahmad, issued orders to immediately ban the publication because the Muttahida Ulema Board made the 'observation' to cancel the magazine's 'declaration'.

"In the light of the observation," wrote DCO in his order, "I am convinced that monthly magazine Misbah is being published in contravention of Press, Newspapers, News Agencies and Books Registration Ordinance 2002."

"It was informed that propagation of Qadianiat (another terminology for Ahmaddiya faith) is a crime Under Section 298-C of PPC," wrote Dr Ahmad in his official order of February 15, 2012.

"The monthly Misbah has been declared as propagating Qadianiat and as such recommended to be banned by Muttahida Ulema Board Punjab."

Although Ahmadis face threats from different enemies like Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Lashkar-e-Tayiba [ Images ] and Sipahi Sahaba Pakistan, but for them the worst enemy is Punjabi Taliban [ Images ] which is affiliated to Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan. On 28 May, 2010, two Ahmadi mosques were attacked by militants in Lahore in which 86 Ahmadis were killed.

Hardly there was a politician to condemn or condole the incident apart from slain Punjab Governor Salaman Taseer. Salaman Taseer himself was killed by the extremists when he spoke against Blasphemy Act of the country.

Claiming responsibility for attacking Ahmadis' worshipping places, Punjabi Taliban spokesperson Mansoor Maawia had termed the Ahmadis 'worse than Jews'. He said, "No Ahmadi would live with peace in Pakistan. Our war against them and their followers will continue."

Why? Because it is Pakistan that why. Because those who are innocent bystanders when this happens to others can't understand that this will happen to everyone too.