Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 29th May 2012

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 19 Jul 2012 02:10

^^ Jaitley is associated with Delhi Cricket Board/Association.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 19 Jul 2012 02:10

partha wrote:
anupmisra wrote: Er....about Ajmer Sharif......Where's the check that you promised?
Pakistan it self is a victim of not receiving checks (from amreeka).

Check is in the mail.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 19 Jul 2012 02:18

wrong thread..del

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 19 Jul 2012 02:18

Can there be more to this Cricket match resumption than that meets the eye? its strange that even opposition parties like BJP favour resumption.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 19 Jul 2012 03:18

venug wrote:Can there be more to this Cricket match resumption than that meets the eye? its strange that even opposition parties like BJP favour resumption.

Like, allow them a token win or two in exchange for taking back Venna Malik?

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 19 Jul 2012 03:46

Here is chankian spin on the kirket. It is "stress test" of the system with "live and true jihadis" allowed to scout for next terror attack. It is to map and keep a close eye on the jihadis modus operandi, while testing the robustness of the improvements (like standardized blue sheet of A4 size papers to be used for dossiers) put in place after the previous massacre. Next time, the dossier will be guaranteed to be glossy finish with appeal to eye and easier fonts used with liberal mixture of urdu thrown in while submitting the ~~reports~~ dossiers to pakis.

But Chidambaram is going to be tested per the stress test to the improvements he promised. Glossy papers and fine quality printers will have to be procured, if not already.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 19 Jul 2012 05:02

Asking Too Much of Pakistan - G.Parthasarathy

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 19 Jul 2012 07:12

Supreme Court or supreme power?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 19 Jul 2012 07:32

DNA of Indian and Pakis same.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 19 Jul 2012 07:59

Sushupti wrote:DNA of Indian and Pakis same.

That is why we fund terrorism against ourselves. Both India and Pakistan suffer from Pakistan sponsored terrorism.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 19 Jul 2012 08:04

After agreeing to play cricket, this kind of a bogus debate with Paki terrorists rubs salt on India. Does Arnab not have any self respect or shame inviting these Paki chutiyas who spin a web around him knowing they are lying and showing the middle finger. Bloody disgusting

http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-Pak-commi ... 406545.cms

http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-Pak-commi ... 406546.cms

On Jaitly agreeing to this cricket sell out, my take is that he had no choice. With overwhelming sentiment among India's decision-making elite in favor of this sell out, Jaitly would have been cast as a Shiv Sainik had he opposed. Recall that Calcutta Telegraph idiot who all but called Gavaskar the same.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 19 Jul 2012 08:08

Maharashtrians generally have some spine others ......

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 19 Jul 2012 08:20

^^ok. A new spin on martial race. Martial Maharashtrians. Sigh...What else is new?

sum · Post by **sum** » 19 Jul 2012 08:26

Stringent visa norms for Pakistan fans likely

Security concerns overshadow cricket diplomacy ahead of much-awaited series later this year

The Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) has made it clear that all extra precautions will be taken before issuing visas to Pakistani fans wanting to enjoy the proposed cricket series later this year.

MHA officials are yet to be sounded on what extra precautions they should take from the security point of view. A senior MHA official said though India had been liberal in granting visas to Pakistani spectators, this time stringent measures would be adopted before granting the same.

“During the investigations into the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks, it came to light how Pakistani terrorists and Inter-Services Intelligence [ISI] misused visas in plotting terror attacks against India. During interrogations, 26/11 handler Syed Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal has said Sajid Mir and Major Abdurrehman, who were behind the Mumbai attacks, had visited India after they got visas to witness India-Pakistan cricket series in 2005,” the official said.

Notably, Sajid Mir, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commander responsible for building his organisation’s international network, and Major Abdurrehman are alleged to be closely linked to the ISI. In fact, they were on a reconnaissance mission to Delhi and Mumbai a year before David Coleman Headley visited Mumbai to identify the targets for the 2008 attacks.

The official pointed out that another area of concern was the disappearance of Pakistan nationals. “It is estimated that there are over 7,000 Pakistanis who are still in India after their visas had expired. They are a potential threat to the nation’s internal security.” The MHA’s official figure of overstaying Pakistani nationals as on December 31, 2009 is 7,691, though many of them are Hindus and Sikhs.

Nonetheless, renewal of cricketing tie tops the government’s agenda today. It is learnt that Minister of State for Parliamentary Affairs and Board of Control for Cricket in India spokesperson Rajeev Shukla is in constant touch with External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna and Home Minister P. Chidambaram in negotiating the details of the proposed cricket series.

Mr. Chidambaram does not want the game to be overshadowed by the ongoing investigations into the Mumbai attacks and Pakistan’s persistent refusal to accept the role of its “state actors” behind the attacks.

MHA officials are awaiting instructions from the Minister to begin the groundwork for the proposed series.

Lets see how long before a call comes from PMO to MHA to "liberalise" the visa scheme and not to create hardships for inncoent Paki cricket lovers to roam around all over desh.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 19 Jul 2012 08:29

CRamS...
How do you come up with this?. Jaitley, from the so called nationalist party, betrayed the public in this case. If he did this for the reason that you suspect (name calling), then it is worse and unfit to be called a leader.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 19 Jul 2012 08:31

sum wrote:Stringent visa norms for Pakistan fans likely

This time they will allow 20,000 in and get letters signed that at least 15,000 should go back. Last time they got no letters. After the next Mumbai attack those letters can be xeroxed and sent in a dossier.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 19 Jul 2012 08:45

Oh yeah visa (Indian) it's everywhere no mast card with MMS is acceptable

BJP is Belkar janata party ( look at Kar Nataka)

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 19 Jul 2012 08:56

rgsrini wrote:CRamS...
How do you come up with this?. Jaitley, from the so called nationalist party, betrayed the public in this case. If he did this for the reason that you suspect (name calling), then it is worse and unfit to be called a leader.

I am by no means justifying his going along with this sell out. I am just trying to rationalize. BJP failed in its mission when they could not thwart MMS to make p!ss with TSP despite 26/11. From that point on, MMS called the shots, and helped in no small measure by the apathetic Indian public. Recall, Indian public voted MMSback to power despite his inaction on 26/11. BJP was only left to make feeble impotent noises like that clown Arnab who invites TSP to a shouting match and they piss all over him. Whatever opposition there is will also slowly dissipate once Kirket starts.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 19 Jul 2012 09:13

CRamS wrote:On Jaitly agreeing to this cricket sell out, my take is that he had no choice. With overwhelming sentiment among India's decision-making elite in favor of this sell out, Jaitly would have been cast as a Shiv Sainik . . .

No, CRamS. This is pure hypocrisy from Jaitley and his party. He has been called many names, so what if he was called a Shiv Sainik. A person of his stature gets sacred of name calling and gives up his nationalistic credentials ? His party has so far not criticized the tour which means they welcome it. So, it is not for fear of name calling that Arun Jaitley has supported the tour.

I recall the promise made by Shri LK Advani to produce a white-paper on ISI terror in India when the BJP came to power. I also remember the famous hot-pursuit across the border. Both of them ended in whimper.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 19 Jul 2012 09:32

Ho hum... what is new? In 2012 the whole world knows Pakistan == Terroristan

UK police accuse three of Pakistan terror training

LONDON: Three British Muslims – including a convert who was featured in a documentary about radical Islam and a former London police support officer – have been charged with traveling to Pakistan for terror training, police said early on Thursday.

Scotland Yard said in a statement that Richard Dart, 29, Imran Mahmood, 21, and Jahangir Alom, 26, had traveled to Pakistan between 2010 and 2012 ”with the intention of committing acts of terrorism or assisting another to commit such acts.”

The statement also alleges that the three provided others with advice and counseling about how to travel to Pakistan, find training, and how to stay safe while there.

Two others, 22-year-old Ruksana Begum and 47-year-old Khalid Javed Baqa, were charged with having material likely to be useful for terrorism.

All five had been arrested earlier this month, and at least two of the accused had previously come to public attention.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 19 Jul 2012 10:10

SSridhar wrote: I recall the promise made by Shri LK Advani to produce a white-paper on ISI terror in India when the BJP came to power. I also remember the famous hot-pursuit across the border. Both of them ended in whimper.

Sridhar paper as such is blank, which also reads as "blanc"==white. Advani has produced lots of blank white papers on terrorism. The UPA used those very blank papers to create dossiers and the result is cipher. Cipher = zero. More zeros are being added to BCCI's unaccounted unaudited funds. Wasn't Jaitley in contention to be BCCI President or something?

partha · Post by **partha** » 19 Jul 2012 10:40

SSridhar wrote:
CRamS wrote:On Jaitly agreeing to this cricket sell out, my take is that he had no choice. With overwhelming sentiment among India's decision-making elite in favor of this sell out, Jaitly would have been cast as a Shiv Sainik . . .
No, CRamS. This is pure hypocrisy from Jaitley and his party. He has been called many names, so what if he was called a Shiv Sainik. A person of his stature gets sacred of name calling and gives up his nationalistic credentials ? His party has so far not criticized the tour which means they welcome it. So, it is not for fear of name calling that Arun Jaitley has supported the tour.

+1. If MMS does it he is selling out to Pakistan but if Arun Jaitley does it then he had no option but to do it?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 19 Jul 2012 10:54

Dipanker wrote:Ho hum... what is new? In 2012 the whole world knows Pakistan == Terroristan

UK police accuse three of Pakistan terror training

In traditional houses the pakistan used to be at the end of the house. People of my grandfather's generation instead of saying "I want to go to pakistan", to be polite, would use the euphemism "Let me go to the end of the house and be back".

In this modern age "I made a trip to Pakistan" is a polite euphemism for "I got some terrorist training"

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 19 Jul 2012 11:23

Two Pakistani Security Guards for Olympics arrested - DT
The Olympic Game Organizers should be stupid to hire Pakistanis as security guards.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 19 Jul 2012 11:36

Pakjab has ruled that ostrich is an animal and not a bird so it can be slaughtered

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... d-rules-pa

sudhan · Post by **sudhan** » 19 Jul 2012 14:41

^^Djinn Life science

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 19 Jul 2012 16:13

SSridhar wrote:Two Pakistani Security Guards for Olympics arrested - DT
The (1)Olympic Game Organizers should (2)be stupid to (3)hire Pakistanis as (4)security guards.

(1) + (2) +(3) + (4) = Disaster written all over it. What in the world was the world expecting?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 19 Jul 2012 16:14

sudhan wrote:^^Djinn Life science

If it is written or implied in the al kitab, then it must be true. Proof? It is written in the al kitab.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 19 Jul 2012 16:28

Don't Pakis eat Chicken, so why can't a Bird be slaughtered?

Anther gem on TFTA ness

Instead, he confined himself to saying that Punjab government had included Ostrich in the category of animals like goats and sheep to meet the increasing demand for meat in the province. He argued that farming and sale of Ostrich’s meat was in vogue across the world which was also good for human consumption.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 19 Jul 2012 16:31

This is just the beginning....who wants to bet, that next year IPL doors will be flung open too for the turds across the border?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 19 Jul 2012 16:40

anishns wrote:This is just the beginning....who wants to bet, that next year IPL doors will be flung open too for the turds across the border?

anishns, it has been already announced.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 19 Jul 2012 18:17

partha wrote: +1. If MMS does it he is selling out to Pakistan but if Arun Jaitley does it then he had no option but to do it?

This is not MMS Vs Jaitly. On this decision, both have sold India down the Indus river.

SS: I agree. BJP was no different when in the driver's seat. Recall the red carpet laid out to Mush and he came to Agra as a Moghul conqueror. Its revolting even to think of that. Seems to me that once in power, either Indian politicians get taken in by US and TSP charm in private, or there is something we don't know. The problem is that everybody is in this sell out, the bloody DDM whose job it is to ask questions and get at the truth are willing collaborators. Even that clown Arnab Goswami yells and screams and gets a pasting from the TSP terrorists he invites just mentions so casually, oh we play cricket and forget about 26/11, but cannot summon the wherewithal to have a bunch of MMS's minions, Jaitly et. all and probe this pointedly.

Guys, we on BR can kick and scream, but in the absence of a forthright media with some brains and diligence and honesty, all we will get is bedi (in Kannada bedi means puke) from perverts like Bedi which aam junta swallows;

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/report/bi ... 120719.htm

"We are living in free India. There are those who oppose, but I am of the view that there should be matches between India and Pakistan. Cricket is a separate thing from politics; the two should not be mixed.

Even someone with a donkey's brain will tell you that India's demand to bring TSP to justice for 26/11 is not politics; unless of course one is a traitor who willfully makes this statement to mask his/her disdain for India and silently cheers TSP for pulling off 26/11 and would like to get them off the hook.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 19 Jul 2012 19:18

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ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 Jul 2012 19:29

Please stick to TSP in this thread.

ramana

sum · Post by **sum** » 19 Jul 2012 22:12

anishns wrote:This is just the beginning....who wants to bet, that next year IPL doors will be flung open too for the turds across the border?

Errr, already done saar.

The only major last hurrah from MMS next year before his term ends to show bhai-chara with long lost brother might be a TSP series in Desh with Visa-on-arrival for arriving visitors.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 19 Jul 2012 23:34

Vehicle hits mine in Pakistan, killing 14 Shiites

A van carrying minority Shiite Muslims hit an anti-tank land mine in northwestern Pakistan on Wednesday, killing 14 passengers in what police described as the country's latest sectarian attack

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 19 Jul 2012 23:50

SPARTA!!! The Valiant 300.
The paki 300! No, not these types (they wish!):

But these:

They are Pakistan’s elite, sometimes referred to as “300” extended families who own an estimated 45 per cent of Pakistan’s cultivated land.

By the way, the rest of article is pure, unadultrated BS.

ManuT · Post by **ManuT** » 20 Jul 2012 00:01

The great India-Pakistan tamasha

By Shahzad Chaudhry

Published: July 18, 2012
http://tribune.com.pk/story/409952/the- ... n-tamasha/

Those seeking peace are vilified and excommunicated (“Wagah candle-kissers”?).

If a few months back, there seemed to be progress on visa facilitation and Sir Creek, it now seems held back by India’s exploitatively evolving position on Siachen.

It was the other way around. Vija and potential solution on Sir Creek were junked because TSP was tieing it another issue.

There are Pakistanis who would peace with India but this guy is not one of them.

partha · Post by **partha** » 20 Jul 2012 00:10

ManuT wrote: There are Pakistanis who would peace with India

Who?

PratikDas · Post by **PratikDas** » 20 Jul 2012 00:15

ManuT wrote:The great India-Pakistan tamasha

By Shahzad Chaudhry

When coherent rebuttals are obvious and seemingly plentiful, they are all "orchestrated as a hired hand by a central authority".

Shahzad Chaudhry appears to be an idiot.