Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2012

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 26 Jul 2012 19:25

^^^^^ Score is now 11

Truck bomb kills 11 in Pakistan market

allah works in mysetrious ways. This ramadan has really started with a bang. Its almost like Michael Beavan playing. Not great shots but score board is still moving fairly rapid pace.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 26 Jul 2012 19:31

now that dus percenti has some releif the supreme court has taken up next biggest issue for army
No more cheap samosas in Pakistan, rules Supreme Court

Islamabad: Alas! The days of cheap samosas in Pakistan is over. Ending a legal wrangle over the price of the humble samosa, the Supreme Court has set aside a notification of the Punjab government whereby the price of one 'samosa' was fixed at Rs 6.

The samosa, till early this week, was caught up in a legal tussle between the provincial government and Punjab Bakers and Sweets Federation.

In 2009, the City District Government Lahore had fixed price of one samosa at Rs 6 and magistrates imposed fine on shopkeepers for selling the same at a higher price.

What will mango abdul have for iftaar now ?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Jul 2012 19:32

Brad Goodman wrote:^^^^^ Score is now 11

Truck bomb kills 11 in Pakistan market

allah works in mysetrious ways. This ramadan has really started with a bang. Its almost like Michael Beavan playing. Not great shots but score board is still moving fairly rapid pace.

No shit Sherlock! Dem Muslims don't sleep on Ramzan do they?

Nosey Haider had written in his book about the shooting down of an Indian Canberra in 1959 (By US gifted sabres)

"The Indian leadership thought that on this sacred day at the end of the holy month of Ramadan the PAF would either be rejoicing, sleeping or in the mosque”.

I.E.D. Mubarak

saip · Post by **saip** » 26 Jul 2012 19:45

See how clever the Pakis are:

The Headline says "Fake visas global issue: British HC"

But the HC said " Speaking to reporters at the Islamabad Press Club, Thomson said the visa scandal issue was of global significance"

Link

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 26 Jul 2012 19:57

another paki using South Asia/ subcontinent term to ride the bollywood bandwagon
COMMENT : Remembering Rajesh Khanna — Dr Mohammad Taqi

The Rajesh Khanna phenomenon was actually the subcontinental middle class finding its first original celebrity post-1947. Dilip Kumar, Raj Kapoor and Dev Anand were past their prime in more ways than one

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Jul 2012 20:04

From a Pakistani article on Rajesh Khanna, in DT

Pakistani governments had opted to first levy heavy taxes on Indian films to curb imports and then banned them after the 1965 war. But it is still hard to erect barriers to popular culture, especially where the historical and linguistic bonds unite people despite the state ideology or political dispensation. When Doordarshan India started its telecast to Lahore, it attracted not just the locals but also many others who could manage to travel to Lahore. On the other hand, Peshawar’s lifeline to the Indian cinema turned out to be the metropolitan Kabul of the 1960s and 1970s. Theaters like the Temurshahi, Kabul Nandareh, Zainab Nandareh and Behzad screened new Bombay movies in Kabul. And as one Peshawari elder put it, they “descended upon Kabul to watch Aradhana in hordes”.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Jul 2012 20:30

Saudis 'mull buying nukes from Pakistan'

Israel's Debkafile Web site, considered close to Israeli intelligence and which sometimes posts reports considered to be disinformation, claimed in December 2010 that Pakistan has set aside two nuclear weapons for Saudi Arabia.

These, it said, are believed to be stored at Pakistan's nuclear air base at Kamra in the north.

At least two giant Saudi transport planes sporting civilian colors and no insignia are parked permanently at Kamra with aircrews on standby," Debka reported.

"They will fly the nuclear weapons home upon receipt of a double-coded signal from King Abdallah and the director of General Intelligence," who now happens to be Prince Bandar, reported to be close to the monarch.

The Saudis have of late portrayed their high-tension rivalry with the Iranians as a new, menacing chapter in the 1,300-year-old struggle between Sunni and Shiite Islam.

"The stakes are enormous," says Bruce Reidel, a former counter-terrorism specialist with the CIA wrote in the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.

"Pakistan has the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world. It will soon surpass the United Kingdom as the fifth-largest nuclear arsenal.

"It's the sixth-largest country in the world in terms of population. It will soon surpass Indonesia as the country with the largest Muslim population."

A leading Saudi royal, Prince Turki al-Faisal, who headed the GIP in 1977-2001, warned U.S. and British military chiefs meeting outside London June 8, 2011, that Tehran's acquisition of nuclear arms "would compel Saudi Arabia ... to pursue policies which could lead to untold and possibly dramatic consequences."

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Jul 2012 20:54

First of all the original Sunni-Shia fight was between Arabs only. There was no Persian dog in the fight.

Its much later with rise of Wahabi Sunnism and finding of big Oil in KSA that makes this an Arab-Persian fight being masked as Sunni-Shia fight.

saip · Post by **saip** » 26 Jul 2012 20:58

Why do you need 'Giant' transport planes for nukes? How will the Saudis use them? Bombers? Missiles (do they have them)? Then may be they are taking Paki missiles with nukes already on them?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Jul 2012 21:05

Israel's Debkafile Web site, considered close to Israeli intelligence and which sometimes posts reports considered to be disinformation, claimed in December 2010 that Pakistan has set aside two nuclear weapons for Saudi Arabia.

These, it said, are believed to be stored at Pakistan's nuclear air base at Kamra in the north.

At least two giant Saudi transport planes sporting civilian colors and no insignia are parked permanently at Kamra with aircrews on standby," Debka reported.

"They will fly the nuclear weapons home upon receipt of a double-coded signal from King Abdallah and the director of General Intelligence," who now happens to be Prince Bandar, reported to be close to the monarch....

Easy fact check is to google the location and see what is parked there?

Also wasnt Kamra the site of Pakiban attention already?

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 26 Jul 2012 21:08

Brad Goodman wrote:^^^^^ Score is now 11

allah works in mysetrious ways. This ramadan has really started with a bang. Its almost like Michael Beavan playing. Not great shots but score board is still moving fairly rapid pace.

pakjabis don't give a damn about FATA. Will be interesting to see the reaction when the purest turn the heat on them.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 26 Jul 2012 21:28

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shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Jul 2012 21:32

saip wrote:Why do you need 'Giant' transport planes for nukes? How will the Saudis use them? Bombers? Missiles (do they have them)? Then may be they are taking Paki missiles with nukes already on them?

1. The only transport aircraft Saudis own are the biggest and heaviest the Americans could sell them
2. The Korean missiles and Chinese manuals will all have to go along with the ~~dickheads~~ er warheads

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 26 Jul 2012 21:53

The merry-go-round of Pakistan PMship.

NightWatch For the night of 25 July 2012 wrote: Pakistan: The Ashraf government informed the Supreme Court of Pakistan that it would not re-open the corruption case against President Zardari, despite the Court's clear order last month. The Swiss have indicated they have no intention or re-opening the graft case against Zardari, which is now over a decade old.

Comment: The key issue is whether the Pakistan government will follow orders from the judiciary. The Gilani government fell because it refused, and the Ashraf government has put itself in the same quandary. Thus far, Pakistan does not appear to be a country that follows its own laws at the highest levels of government.

Ashraf, like Gilani, swore to enforce and uphold the laws. Ashraf is following Gilani in deliberately refusing to uphold the laws that their parties enacted in the Pakistani National Assembly. Ashraf is liable to be held in contempt of the Supreme Court and required to resign.

joygoswami · Post by **joygoswami** » 26 Jul 2012 22:23

This is called Dhoti-Shivering at its most disgusting nature. Just shame on us really

Friendship with Pakistan inevitable: SM Krishna

Check the comments by the in-bred Pakhani Elites

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 26 Jul 2012 22:54

Roperia wrote:Fight against terrorism is 4th World War: Pranab | PTI

...

The part where The President talks about terrorism, bravery of the armed forces and the suffering of people explains that the people in power (even as influential folks as Pranab da) share the very same feelings that most of us on BRF do. You may not agree with it but I recommend you do listen to it. Every word from Pranab Da's mouth reflects his experiences of a career spanning four decades.

Pranab Mukherjee's acceptance speech as President | Video

Just want to point out that Rashtrapati's speeches are hardly their own words and they don't make policy. They are crafted by senior babus and are meant to send a message politically suited to the moment. Pranab may have had some input but those words have little to do with how he thinks.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 26 Jul 2012 22:58

Brad Goodman wrote:another paki using South Asia/ subcontinent term to ride the bollywood bandwagon
COMMENT : Remembering Rajesh Khanna — Dr Mohammad Taqi
The Rajesh Khanna phenomenon was actually the subcontinental middle class finding its first original celebrity post-1947. Dilip Kumar, Raj Kapoor and Dev Anand were past their prime in more ways than one

Paki Kaun owrr Kya Hai ?
Are they South Assian, South Arsabian, Centranal Assians or want to be known as Subcuntimental ?

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 26 Jul 2012 23:07

UPA has apparently decided conflict with Pakistan hurts India more than it hurts Pakistan. Tharoor recently said this explicitly while adding that he is no Wagah Kandle Kisser.

Maybe the thinking is that Pak will turn in on itself and destroy itself faster if it doesn't have India to hate.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 26 Jul 2012 23:11

Gola has upgraded himself to 500%.

Pervez Musharraf on Osama bin Laden living in Pakistan: "I am 500 percent sure myself...that I didn't know it"
http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0 ... t-know-it/

partha · Post by **partha** » 26 Jul 2012 23:11

On Kargil Vijay Diwas -

http://tribune.com.pk/story/413301/frie ... m-krishna/

Friendship with Pakistan inevitable: SM Krishna

Indian foreign minister says even global conditions require that the two countries maintain good bilateral relations

global conditions = US pressure.

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 27 Jul 2012 02:15

From Kargil to Parakram, a lesson in forceful persuasion

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 27 Jul 2012 03:27

Considered by many to be an escalatory tool of statecraft, air power in this case turned out to be a de-escalatory factor because it conveyed to the adversary that India meant “business.”

Can this be applicable to India's political responses to Pakistan's adventurism?

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 27 Jul 2012 04:02

^ Sanjay ji,

Both the operations mentioned in the opinion piece were against TSP. What distinguishes them from what you suggest is that in both the cases, TSPA soldiers had to be evicted from Indian territory. In a nutshell, Indian air power was used inside Indian territory, though very close to the LoC.

The day IAF will be able to confidently tell the political brass that they can strike within TSP while successfully interdicting most, if not all, retaliatory strikes, we may see air power being used in response to mass fatality terrorist attack.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 27 Jul 2012 07:21

India has not taken 'maximalist' positions on Pakistani terror, there is no discussion at the UN security council, not even a general assembly task force. There is no excoriating response to Pakistanis attempt to deflect the responsibility of dropping per capita water availability onto India. When was the last time the Minister in charge of water resources referred to Pakis breeding like rats, India should be offering free condoms, and asking them to learn from former East Pakistan.

Instead we get home lilies and dosas from a sarkari babu struggling with English as a fourth language.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Jul 2012 07:48

partha wrote:On Kargil Vijay Diwas -

http://tribune.com.pk/story/413301/frie ... m-krishna/
Friendship with Pakistan inevitable: SM Krishna

Indian foreign minister says even global conditions require that the two countries maintain good bilateral relations
global conditions = US pressure.

TSP will concur wholeheartedly and say that if only the "core issue" is resolved to TSP's satisfaction, "South Asia" will be a garden of Eden.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jul 2012 07:59

sanjaykumar wrote:India has not taken 'maximalist' positions on Pakistani terror. . .

I am of the view that India has not even taken a 'minimalist' position, consistent with its size, power, clout vis-a-vis TSP.

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 27 Jul 2012 08:06

NYTimes: Quiet Duo Forged Road Deal for U.S. and Pakistan
http://nyti.ms/P4C45n

Declan Walsh explains how $100 million a month in extra costs brought White House to its knees.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Jul 2012 08:11

Roperia wrote:From Kargil to Parakram, a lesson in forceful persuasion

I am not military expert, but what this tells me regarding India's military capabilities is this: India sure has the firepower and wherewithal to deflect any TSP offensive hanky panky short of launching nukes. India's offensive capability to punish TSP, very limited, and hence all the contortions we are having in dealing with TSP. TSP's gameplan as we all know is to force an Indian response so then they can cite existential threat and launch nukes. In this scenario, India is in a no win situation, because TSP can continue to use pigLeTs under nuke cover, not to mention that their only mission in life is destruction of India no matter the damage to them.

Add to this, the US factor of is India TSP equal equal, I really pity our decision makers, both militray and civilian; they just can't undertake the kind of response we on BR would like them to take.

Having said all that, I still feel on the diplomatic/economic front, India can be a bit more aggressive instead of Aman ki Tamsaha. This is what I was discussing with a retd Indian army colonel last night here in Bangalore, but he seemed to be in favor of this Aman Ki Tamsaha saying that India's right strategy is to lure away ordinary TSP Abduls from terror.

Any BRites in Bangalore? I would love to meet up next several weeks during my stay here. Please e-mail me at laksast_ at hotmail dot com.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 27 Jul 2012 08:48

Pakistani exporters cut prices to capture Indian market..

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... -for-india

It is not just 1 Paki mard-e-momin that is equal to 10 SDRE, even Paki cement is stronger...take that you kufrs..

Pakistani cement consumption is some 5 to 10 percent less than Indian cement

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Jul 2012 11:44

Now that the NATO kerfuffle is settled' pakis are back pedaling on negative list MFN status ityadi. This was to be expected. They have gone back to the old refrain of tying it to sir creek siachen etc.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/413578/bett ... e-as-ever/

partha · Post by **partha** » 27 Jul 2012 11:58

^
How neatly the blame is put on India when Pakistan has been granting MFN status to India "in principle" every month or so.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jul 2012 12:13

Anujan wrote:Now that the NATO kerfuffle is settled' pakis are back pedaling on negative list MFN status ityadi. This was to be expected. They have gone back to the old refrain of tying it to sir creek siachen etc.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/413578/bett ... e-as-ever/

From the link above,

The Foreign Office had asked the ministry to “go slow” after no significant progress was achieved on other contentious matters, despite repeated rounds of talks.

If it is the TSP Foreign office that has stopped MFN, then we can be sure that the order from the TSPA. We must recall Kayani's words when the Commerce Ministers of the two countries met last year in Islamabad. In Kakul, speaking on the same day to graduating cadets, Kayani said that Pakistan cannot forsake its H&D at the altar of trade & commerce. It was TSPA that elongated the granting of MFN by introducing such things as whittling down positive list, introducing negative list, whittling down negative list etc. They have instigated the Diffa-e-Pakistan Council to oppose the MFN. This MFN will be scuttled one way or another.

Wasn't trade being spoken of as a CBM ? How can that be connected with resolving disputes ? Linking trade to dispute-resolution has been the stand of Pakistan until c. 2004. Trade was de-linked from other issues and TSP is now going back to square one. This means that it is hardening its stance. Now that the US has started sending the baksheesh once again and now that the IMF is planning to give more loans, TSP may think that it does not need Indian trade to tide over a difficult situation.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 27 Jul 2012 13:21

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2012_pg7_5

Afghan FM conveys concerns about shelling...strange he talks to Miss Gucci bag and not the terrorist scum Kayani..in any case, TSP must be fuming that a country that was basically a extension counter of ISI and a storage yard for terrorist sewer pigs is now sending FMs and talking at them..

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 27 Jul 2012 14:39

Wisdom dawns on some Pakis - that the roots of its problems may lie in religion:

Our doomed democracy

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 27 Jul 2012 15:05

Nandu wrote:UPA has apparently decided conflict with Pakistan hurts India more than it hurts Pakistan. Tharoor recently said this explicitly while adding that he is no Wagah Kandle Kisser.

Maybe the thinking is that Pak will turn in on itself and destroy itself faster if it doesn't have India to hate.

Small correction it should be Conflict with Pakistan hurts UPA's Political Interests more than it hurts Pakistan.

Party and self above country.

But then again mere survival of Pakistan in a conflict/ or non conflict is spun as a Vicotory for Pakistan, like operation Parakram, Pakistan did not win any battle but was spun as great Paki victory by Paki media and WKK outlets

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jul 2012 16:33

At last, Pakistan gets its due recognition amongst the comity of nations.
You are a 'global leader' in visa & passport forgery: British envoy to Pakistan

Dubbing Pakistan as a "global leader" in visa and passport forgery, Britain's envoy here has said that visa fraud is a deep-rooted industry in this country.

About 4,000 people were caught last year while trying to acquire British passports using fake documents, the UK's high commissioner to Pakistan, Adam Thomson, said.

Pakistan was a "global leader" vis-a-vis fake passports and visas, he told reporters at the National Press Club on Thursday.

Thomson said it was unfortunate that Pakistan had been rated a world leader in visa fraud.

"Unfortunately, you people are world leaders in visa scam. Forgery is a strong industry here," he was quoted as saying in media reports.

Roperia · Post by **Roperia** » 27 Jul 2012 17:16

UK lawmakers urge Obama to end drone strikes in Pakistan | Yawn

Mum Britain wraps her arms around its spoiled child TSP to save it from Drone strikes.

TSP is a rabid dog and beating, kicking it is not going to help in the long run though it might be instantly gratifying.

We must put the squeeze on "friends of Pakistan" like US, UK, China and Saudi Arabia. India needs to calibrate its response to countries who sell F-16s with BVR missiles to fight the Taliban Air Force and commies who have proliferated nukes.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 27 Jul 2012 17:21

Bhutto made pakis who live on grass and now one of those grass eater has made a car that runs on water

Pakistani makes car that runs on water

Pakistani engineer has built a car that runs on water, a feat that left onlookers astounded.

Engineer Waqar Ahmad drove his car using water as fuel on Thursday during a demonstration for parliamentarians, scientists and students, Dawn reported from this Pakistan capital.

He said cars could be driven by a system fuelled by water instead of petrol or CNG.

Now read on to see who heads science commitee

The onlookers were taken aback when they saw it and a cabinet sub-committee lauded the 'Water Fuel Kit Project'.

Religious Affairs Minister Syed Khurshid Ahmad Shah, who heads the panel, said the engineer would have their full support.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 27 Jul 2012 17:33

earth(grass), fire, water... are the porkis returning to their vedic roots?

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 27 Jul 2012 17:43

But hasn't this technology of water driven cars been there for atleast 10 years, only thing is nobody has made a commercial sucess of it for various reasons.

The Truth About Water-Powered Cars: Mechanic's Diary

Paki is copying something aldready there and claiming it to be his own, like buying Chinese and painting it in green