The 2012 Olympics Thread

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 30 Jul 2012 23:44

If Bhupathi/Co get past the French , they have it easy till Semis where they might run into Federer & Co

Paes/Vardhan have a tough next match with the #2 seeds and if they have cross the hurdle, They have a fairly beatable draw till Finals (Djovick/team is out already)

saip · Post by **saip** » 31 Jul 2012 00:03

Watching the shooting, I just heard Gagan Narang was only shooter who ever shot perfect 600 in the competition and he has done it twice.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 31 Jul 2012 00:05

Paes/Vardhan take on Llodra/Tsonga. The French pair are not a regular one. While Llodra is a doubles pro, Tsonga plays singles, and their seeding is a virtue of their separate rankings. I hope Paes can inspire his partner. If they win, they have a tough quarterfinal against either Berdych/Stepanek or Soares/Melo, both of whom are pretty decent individual doubles players, though neither are known teams. Paes has won a grand slam with Stepanek before.

Bhupathi/Bopanna should do ok against Gasquet/Benneteau. If they get past, they may face Zimonjic/Tipsarevic, who are a strong doubles team. If they win, they are more likely to run into the Bryans in the semis - Federer/Wawrinka face the Bryans in the quarters.

Both teams have a fair chance of medaling. Bhupathi's are better, but I don't fancy his chances against the Bryans - hope they face Federer/Wawrinka.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 31 Jul 2012 00:14

Meanwhile, the organizing blunders continue:
So far, London Olympics wins gold medal for gaffes

An appearance by the hapless comic character Mr. Bean was one of the highlights of the London Olympics opening ceremony. Yet a series of Keystone Cops moments has games organizers hoping they don't keep up this slapstick routine in real life.

London police acknowledged Monday that last week they lost a set of keys to Wembley - one of the most famous soccer stadiums in the world and an Olympic venue in London - and had been forced to hastily change the stadium locks.

It was the latest unintentionally comic moment to beset the games and has raised fears of what else may be in store.

News of the lock debacle followed a diplomatic tiff with India, triggered when a woman who was not part of the country's athletic delegation marched right beside India's flag bearer at Friday's opening ceremony.

Olympic officials insisted there was no security risk from either incident. Games chief Sebastian Coe said the Indian team's interloper was an accredited cast member from the opening ceremony who "got slightly over-excited."

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 31 Jul 2012 01:09

Is anyone else scandalized by the empty seats. The front rows in particular are always empty. There were several soccer games with not a single spectator!! There were several reports that the ticket distribution scam is quite the bungle.
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BTW what kind of shambolic security system allows a cast member to stroll onto the parade.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 31 Jul 2012 01:12

jwala/ashwini win

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 31 Jul 2012 02:04

Jwala and Ashwini are currently third in their group after 2 matches with one win and one loss, behind the Japanese (2-0) and Taiwanese pairs (1-1, more sets won).

However, they beat the Taiwanese team and lost to the Japanese (who are ranked world #5). Their last match is against the bottom team from Singapore, which they should win. On the other hand, the Taiwanese play the top ranked Japanese next. Therefore Jwala and Ashwini have a good chance of progressing with a 2-1 record, if they and the Japanese win as expected.

Unfortunately as 2nd in Group B they are slated to face 1st team in Group D, which will be either the world #2 or #6 teams, so their story will probably end there.

Elsewhere in Rowing, Swaran Singh Virk won his repechage with ease and proceeds to the quarterfinals, which will be tomorrow.

Added: Top 3 finishing from Virk will give him a semifinal spot. His current pace - he set a national record of 6:54 in the heats - can get him a spot in the semifinal, since his current top performance ranks him #3 amongst his quarterfinalists. He took it easy in the repechage, conserving energy, and will hopefully secure a semi berth tomorrow. I don't think he has any realistic chance of medaling, but he's good.

member_23367 · Post by **member_23367** » 31 Jul 2012 02:08

Lots of Blunders in this Olympics.Here's another one including a SoKo Vs German.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/ju ... st-olympic

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 31 Jul 2012 02:38

Narang with his coach

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 31 Jul 2012 03:38

WTF!!! North Korea got 3 golds

partha · Post by **partha** » 31 Jul 2012 04:00

SamG wrote:Lots of Blunders in this Olympics.Here's another one including a SoKo Vs German.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/ju ... st-olympic

Should be the biggest moment in history of fencing

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 31 Jul 2012 04:37

^^

I don't understand that. Was it a clock mal-function?

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 31 Jul 2012 05:03

15 year old chinese girl just swam faster than Michael Phelps in several measures.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 31 Jul 2012 05:13

Theo_Fidel wrote:^^
I don't understand that. Was it a clock mal-function?

What I read:
1. Clock stopped working 1 second before end, with Korean leading 6-5.
2. German got to continue because clock stopped. Scores point and equalizes 6-6. Someone decided it's finally time to stop fight.
3. 'Rules' gave German the win.
4. Koreans get

and protest.
5. 'Rules' require player to remain on platform during protest. So Korean girl sits there and

6. Protest denied after 1hr, player taken off and made to play bronze playoff within 15 minutes.
7. Player loses 11-15 in playoff to Chini girl.

Sangwan should ask this girl out, it seems. They both got done in.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 31 Jul 2012 05:56

how convenient - another Asian at the receiving end

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 31 Jul 2012 07:30

Geolympics: From raised fists to fistfights, the eight most politically charged moments in Olympic history.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 31 Jul 2012 08:14

Suraj wrote:
Theo_Fidel wrote:^^
I don't understand that. Was it a clock mal-function?
What I read:
1. Clock stopped working 1 second before end, with Korean leading 6-5.
2. German got to continue because clock stopped. Scores point and equalizes 6-6. Someone decided it's finally time to stop fight.
3. 'Rules' gave German the win.
4. Koreans get and protest.
5. 'Rules' require player to remain on platform during protest. So Korean girl sits there and
6. Protest denied after 1hr, player taken off and made to play bronze playoff within 15 minutes.
7. Player loses 11-15 in playoff to Chini girl.

Sangwan should ask this girl out, it seems. They both got done in.

coming out of the woodwork to say if ever there was a display of naked racism, it was that fencing match. god, what a stunning display of stupid arrogance!

sum · Post by **sum** » 31 Jul 2012 08:22

^^ Somehow still not able to digest the Sangwan loss..

Damn, shouldnt have seen that bout yesterday! Been fuming inside since then

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 31 Jul 2012 09:40

sum wrote:^^ Somehow still not able to digest the Sangwan loss..

Damn, shouldnt have seen that bout yesterday! Been fuming inside since then

boxing has always been corrupt. this fencing thing makes it seem its all the same. may china beat the crap out of these folks in coming games, fairly or unfairly, its all good.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 31 Jul 2012 10:39

yannick agnel won 200m freestyle, with a joint Soko-cheen silver, so no bronze for ryan lochte...

the khans seemed to have been training in a vacuum comparing only against their domestic peer group...its clear there are bigger sharks in the open water once u clear the harbour lighthouse

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 31 Jul 2012 11:00

I'm impressed with our rowing program under the Indian Army. They have found two rowers - Bajrang Lal Takhar and Swaran Singh Virk - who are both at CWG and AG standard. Takhar is the reigning Asian games champ in Single Sculls. This event is the rowing equivalent of the 100m dash - a decidedly TFTA event where we beat out the more established East Asians. Virk is just 23, only started rowing 3 years ago, and can make the Olympic semis on a good day. Pity Takhar fell ill and couldn't qualify for London; they would make a strong double sculls pair too.

Clearly there's a program in this sport that can quickly find and turn around talent into sub-OG medal standard in less than 4 years. Getting beyond to reliable OG medal standard is the problem we now face in a range of sports. In something like rowing, I see no other way than scientific 'extra' methods - blood boosting at minimum, if not HGH and other options. I don't for a moment believe the likes of Ye Shiwen just 'trained hard'. The girl cut her 400m IM time by 8 seconds in barely a year, and it's not even her main event. I don't necessarily want her caught because the western countries aren't saints either, but I want us to get to that level too.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 31 Jul 2012 11:20

..so long as it doesnt have long term health impact - I would rather people stay alive healthy rather than get a olympic gold and then die like flies from 40s onward like many dopers around the world do ..... the death @ 38 of florence griffith joyner is still a question...nobody has broken those records 100m and 200m still stand from 1988 - nearly 25 yrs and counting.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 31 Jul 2012 13:11

Kashyap wins first set 21-9

EDIT: Kashyup wins!

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 31 Jul 2012 13:17

Gora Sahib is having trouble adjusting to not being the top dog any more.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/ju ... mpics-2012

"We want to be very careful about calling it doping," said Leonard, who is also the executive director of the USA Swimming Coaches Association.

"The one thing I will say is that history in our sport will tell you that every time we see something, and I will put quotation marks around this, 'unbelievable', history shows us that it turns out later on there was doping involved. That last 100m was reminiscent of some old East German swimmers, for people who have been around a while. It was reminiscent of the 400m individual medley by a young Irish woman in Atlanta."

James B · Post by **James B** » 31 Jul 2012 13:35

Badminton player Kashap Parupalli ranked 21 won against 11th ranked Vietnamese player Tien Minh in 2 sets by 21-9 and 21-14. He now tops GroupD and enters Round of 16 knockout stage.

Pullela Gopichand academy is certainly doing wonders.

James B · Post by **James B** » 31 Jul 2012 13:44

Jayant Talukdar eliminated in Archery.

apoorv · Post by **apoorv** » 31 Jul 2012 13:53

Talukdar hit a 5 in first round. On the other hand his opponent was on fire.

On another note - I hope Kashyap does well. Guy is certainly in good form.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 31 Jul 2012 14:01

gopichand apparently makes his trainees play for a while with 4 players on other side - perhaps 2 at net and 2 in back...to keep on a 100% CPU cycle for a while

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 31 Jul 2012 14:21

For language's effect's sake not translating this hindi news piece

चीनी तैराक के रेकॉर्ड पर अमेरिका को मिर्ची लगी
नवभारत टाइम्स - ‎1 घंटा पहले‎
लंदन।। लंदन ओलिपिंक में तैराकी में वर्ल्ड रेकॉर्ड तोड़कर सनसनी मचाने वाली चीनी तैराक ये शिवेन को लेकर विवाद खड़ा होता दिख रहा है। अमेरिकी कोच 16 साल की शिवेन के रेकॉर्ड को अविश्वसनीय बताते हुए डोपिंग का आरोप लग रहे हैं। हालांकि, शिवेन ने इन आरोपों को खारिज कर दिया है। पेइचिंग ओलिंपिक 2008 में चीन से मेडल टैली में पिछड़ने वाला अमेरिका लंदन ओलिंपिक में भी अभी तक उससे पीछे चल रहा है। मेडल टैली में 9 गोल्ड मेडल के साथ चीन पहले ...

US attacks china over drugs row

http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/us ... 290352.cms

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 31 Jul 2012 14:33

Suraj wrote:
Theo_Fidel wrote:^^
I don't understand that. Was it a clock mal-function?
What I read:
1. Clock stopped working 1 second before end, with Korean leading 6-5.
2. German got to continue because clock stopped. Scores point and equalizes 6-6. Someone decided it's finally time to stop fight.
3. 'Rules' gave German the win.
4. Koreans get and protest.
5. 'Rules' require player to remain on platform during protest. So Korean girl sits there and
6. Protest denied after 1hr, player taken off and made to play bronze playoff within 15 minutes.
7. Player loses 11-15 in playoff to Chini girl.

Sangwan should ask this girl out, it seems. They both got done in.

More information about what actually happened:
1. Clock shows time in whole seconds (but actually counts to 1/100 of second accuracy). Therefore 1 second could be as much as 1.5 seconds left. Clock did NOT stop working. Starting of the clock is manual (and affects both contestants equally), but everything else is automated. If anything, blame the rule of starting the clock manually.
2. When time runs out, the electronic sensors on the swords automatically stop registering hits after that. In this case, the scoring sensor registered the hit legitimately because time had still not hit 0.
3. Rules of fencing for ages has been like that for ages. Don't forget that fencing has martial art origins. In a real fight, if you hold your sword out and your opponent charges at you and hits you, but runs into your sword, guess what, your opponent has just killed himself as well. This is why the rule is in place to keep people from simply charging and flailing away to try and score.
4. Karma: Koreans had this coming to them for a while. Call it revenge for the stuff they pulled in Seoul Olympics 1988 and the Football World Cup.

* Roy Jones Jr. clearly out-punched his South Korean opponent 86-32 over 3 rounds and dominated the match, still the Korean mysteriously got the gold medal. Incidentally, the same Korean guy also won very controversially in an earlier match against an Italian dude, who'd clearly won the first two rounds. Judges claimed that the Korean guy had won by very "large margin" in 3rd round and therefore had won the match. The italian guy had to be physically dragged out after he protested the decision.
* In the same Olympics, another South Korean boxer lost a match against his Bulgarian opponent after getting points deducted for some clear instances of headbutting (and he should have been disqualified earlier when his coach ran into the ring to bitch between rounds, but the ref let that slide). Korean boxer did sit-in hartal in the ring for 67 minutes, while Korean coaches charged the ref (a New Zealander) and assaulted him, as did many of the security officials. One of the security officials was seen urging the crowd to charge into the ring as well. Slow moving cops showed up later and ref fled with the first flight out of there on his own dime.
* Need I even mention the "Hyundai" Football World Cup. Spain must have scored a good 5 times against the Koreans. None of the goals were awarded.

So eff em and the horse they rode in on.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 31 Jul 2012 15:00

India lost to Korea Badminton Mix Double - VD / Jwala Gutta

These Koreas and Chins keep their olympic players away from other sports events like Asian Games? They groom olympic players separately?

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 31 Jul 2012 15:09

Suraj wrote: I don't for a moment believe the likes of Ye Shiwen just 'trained hard'. The girl cut her 400m IM time by 8 seconds in barely a year, and it's not even her main event. I don't necessarily want her caught because the western countries aren't saints either, but I want us to get to that level too.

Well, I too, do not believe for a moment that Lance Armstrong can win 7 TDFs. And allegations of drugs came not just now, not during his first TDF in 1999 , but way back in 1...9...9...5.

See when you have drugs and concoctions, and labs and test rats , and when you have the all the (sponsored) money, and lots of it, and when you have doctors and medical technicians , you can do wonders. Like suppressing signatures with other drugs. Or knowing how much shows up in the blood and urine samples to a precision on 0.000001 gms/ml and for how long. Goooood luck to the IOC / TDF / ABCD / EFGH and all these monkeys catching up with the hustlers. I am no expert what so ever - but I would like to meet one person who can refute my statements.
More and more this drugs thingie seem like a bunch of thieves mocking at a bank lock and looting the gold!

Amereekis are poor poor losers. Once you beat them at their game, they will jump back to mama's lap ( aka GOTUS) , suckle at the titties while bawling and pointing fingers at <Chinese/Koreans>

James B · Post by **James B** » 31 Jul 2012 15:19

Chekrovolu Swuro out of Archery Women's Singles.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 31 Jul 2012 16:07

She was leading till the penultimate arrow and lost due to one wayward attempt

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 31 Jul 2012 16:19

uk olympic officials have announced that chinese swimmer is dope free and should be recognised for talent, uk papers calling unkil sore loser

yesterday GB mens gym team dropped from silver to bronze after japan complained about their scores; meanwhile police arrest a man for threatening and abusing tom daley (GB diver) on twitter, after he failed to get into medals on synchronised diving

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 31 Jul 2012 16:37

^^^

read about something called gene doping which can't be caught by conventional tests. apparently it's all the rage these days. resident hakims pliss to enlighten.

munna · Post by **munna** » 31 Jul 2012 16:50

Swarn Singh through to semi-finals, although not a medal prospect but it will be a proud thing to have him in the finals. He will be competing in semi final C Link

James B · Post by **James B** » 31 Jul 2012 17:32

Rahul M wrote:^^^

read about something called gene doping which can't be caught by conventional tests. apparently it's all the rage these days. resident hakims pliss to enlighten.

Its just a theory. Gene Doping is when you add or modify genes to a person (has to be done at embryonic level) that have been shown to enhance athleticism or some other trait that give advantage over others. For example, if you want to make a marathon runner, then identify genes that gave advantage to africans in the marathon competitions and then add or modify this gene to the person to make him a better athlete. Similarly, there have been many genes identified for different kinds of sports that confer certain advantages.

I repeat, this is just a theory and practically not possible even with current technologies. Gene Doping is similar to gene therapy which has dismally failed in practice.

Added: I can only think of new doping ways (heavily modified drugs) where the end product is not detectable. And China as a state has that capability to do that.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 31 Jul 2012 19:03

Fantastic Laishram. Won inside 3 minutes of boxing. Very one-sided. Wow.

munna · Post by **munna** » 31 Jul 2012 19:04

Classy stuff by Devendro, faces Beijing Silver medallist next