India-US Strategic News and Discussion

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[lakshmikanth]

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[abhishek_sharma]

You simply don't understand? There is an article on coal purchase and you post your usual canned text on Nandigram?

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[abhishek_sharma]

1-2 jokes are fine, but do you really need to post the same joke in all threads?

Discussion on Marxist atrocities is important, but we surely have a thread for it? Right?

>> Are you guys in lower primary school or high school?

And this is directed to whom?

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[abhishek_sharma]

No, an article on coal purchase by US should not lead to a reply containing words like "Karat", "capitalist" and "subsidizing". This is your usual pattern where you connect every issue to communism/communists.

Go, read your original post.

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[lakshmikanth]

abhishek guru,

I deleted my comment. Was too soon to use that line

*ducks for cover*

[Manny]

Indira Gandhi working with the Evangelicals.

http://youtu.be/-f12TlURLzE

Look at her BSing about how India has amazing foreign exchange and how prosperous they are...

She is saying that The Janata PArty that came to power for 2.3 years after 30 years of the congress party ruined India.

[Philip]

Know your (possible) future US pres.! Is he as some think the "Saviour" or conversely the "Anti-Christ" in the "Promised Land"?

Mitt Romney,senior and staunch member of the controversial Mormon cult/faith,equipped with truckloads of cash to fight his battle for the US presidency is strangely silent about his Mormon character,which enshrines his core values.Here is an insight.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... onism.html

Mitt Romney: the man behind the Mormonism

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Mitt Romney has a life-time of church service that would normally be campaign trail gold dust for a presidential candidate. So why is the Republican candidate so reluctant to talk about his Mormon faith

By Philip Sherwell, Boston

18 Aug 2012
The young bishop looked out at his congregation from the pulpit of the new chapel in the well-heeled Boston suburb of Belmont and began his Sunday morning sermon.

"Where much is given, much is required," he told those in the pews in front of him, emphasising the need to apply the Scriptures in their homes, with their neighbours and at their work.

Mitt Romney was in 38 in 1985. He was helping his wife Ann raise a brood of five boys aged under 16 and had just founded Bain Capital, a new player in the emerging world of private equity.

And in the Mormon Church, whose clergy are lay and unpaid, he was serving his third year as the bishop of his ward - the equivalent of a parish priest. In 1986, he was promoted to stake president for all Boston area congregations (comparable to running a diocese) - a position he held until 1994 when he made his first run for political office.

Even after standing down from church his leadership roles to launch a failed challenge for Edward Kennedy's Massachusetts Senate seat, he continued to teach the Sunday school classes that Mormons of all ages attend each week.

Indeed, Mr Romney has a life-time of church service that would normally be campaign trail gold dust for a candidate for America's highest office. But US voters will not hear about it from the mouth of the man who will soon be formally confirmed as the Republican presidential nominee.

He frequently highlights his chosen credentials for the top job - private sector expertise as corporate turnaround high-flyer, "saviour" of the financially-floundering 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Olympics, former Massachusetts governor and family man.

Last weekend, he unveiled his vice-presidential running mate, Paul Ryan, a hawkish fiscal conservative who shores up his standing with the party's right-wing where suspicions are strong of his establishment background and reputation for "flip-flopping" on social issues.

It was his first major political move since returning from an overseas trip that also reinforced another reputation, this time for gaffes, after he offended his hosts in Britain by questioning London's readiness to stage the Olympics.

Mr Romney and Barack Obama are currently neck-and-neck in the polls, with all the indications that the battle will be decided in a handful of swing states on Nov 6. Yet even though his biography is well known, for many Americans the real Mitt Romney still remains something of an enigma - less than three months before the election that could make him president.

And even as the war of words in the race for the White House plumbed poisonous new depths in recent days, it is clear that Mr Romney will not discuss the faith that has shaped his life and character.

The data-driven former chief executive has taken the decision that the advantages of airing this would be outweighed by the downside: drawing attention to the details of a faith that many evangelical Christians call a cult, and some other Americans regard simply as "weird".

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints abandoned polygamy in the 1890s, although some breakaway factions still practise it. They all believe that the faith's founder, Joseph Smith, had visitations by Jesus and God in the woods of New York state in the 1820s and buried golden plates (the Book of Mormon) that details how Jesus Christ visited the Americas after his resurrection and will begin his Second Coming in Missouri.

All such assertions raise eyebrows for many Americans - as does the practice of baptising anyone's dead ancestors into the Mormon faith.

Mormons, who eschew alcohol, tobacco, coffee and tea, are vehemently pro-Life and are also taught that homosexuality is a sin. They believe that the US Constitution is a document inspired by God that makes America the new "Promised Land".

Mormon customs are often mocked, not least the undergarments worn by adults. Ridiculed by some as "magic underwear", they consist of white undershirt and white boxer-style shorts with small sacred symbols intended to remind the faithful of the covenants they have made - but not conveying any supernatural qualities.

So Mr Romney's calculations may well be correct. There is little indication in opinion polls that religion will influence how Americans vote and Mr Obama's campaign has no intention of bringing faith into the election battle, not least as he had to fend off damaging links to his black liberation pastor during the 2008 campaign.

But in interviews at the Belmont chapel with fellow Mormons who have worshipped with Mr Romney for decades, The Sunday Telegraph was given a rare insight into his ecclesiastic career and how that shaped him.

The red-brick meeting-house, whose 1984 opening had been delayed by a mysterious arson attack, sits in secluded gardens beneath the hill-top Boston temple, an imposing structure of Sardinian granite, its spire topped with a gleaming golden angel.

Only Mormons with authorisation issued by their bishop can pass the front desk of the $30 million temple, changing into all-white clothes for special religious ceremonies. The building was funded by worshippers who are expected to tithe 10 per cent of their income to the church and the Romneys, whose fortune is estimated at $250 million thanks to the success of Bain, were the largest contributors to what some locals call "Mitt's temple".

But the chapel where regular services and scripture lessons are held is open to all and it was there that two former church leaders last week shared their sharply differing views of a man with whom they have worked and prayed.

"Even as he ran his business and raised his family, Mitt always found time to meet the spiritual and temporal needs of his congregation," said Grant Bennett, a former Boston stake president who has known Mr Romney since 1978.

"He was extremely diligent about his duties and organised his schedule to make room for church, family and work."

He related several stories of Mr Romney's pastoral care as he devoted hours each week to Church duties that ranged from taking teenagers on skiing trips to meeting individually with members to discuss problems in their lives, one-on-one.

"In his sermons, one of the themes that I often heard Mitt discuss was 'Where much is given, much is required'," said Mr Bennett, who worked with Mr Romney at the Bain consulting business before the establishment of Bain Capital and now runs an electric components company.

"I believe that's why he's running for president - there is a simple and genuine element of Mitt wanting to give back.

"And central to his Sunday school teaching was how to apply the scriptures to live lives of honesty, forgiveness, tolerance and kindness."

Mr Romney's critics say it is precisely those tenets – and his undisputed record of good works in his private life – that are in sharp contrast to his business career at Bain. The company has become a lightning rod on the campaign trail as symbolising "vulture capitalism" for the companies that it closed down and workers it laid off.

Mr Bennett instead sees evidence of Mormon traditions of self-reliance in the candidate's economic message.

"He believes that many of society's ills are best addressed by families working together and individual morality," he said. "Government is not always the answer."

He also cites the analytical skills that Mr Romney picked up taking dual degrees at Harvard's business and law schools.

"I wish that Mitt would talk more openly about his personal life and church service," he said. "But it makes complete sense to me that he has analysed the situation and decided that he wants to focus on the economy and that he does not want to give people the chance to raise old misconceptions about our faith."

But Tony Kimball, another long-time colleague, said he was "shocked" by what he views as Mr Romney's "end justifies the means" approach to trying to win the White House.

"There is no way that I can square what Mitt is doing and saying on the campaign trail with the Mitt I have known for 40 years, and I don't know how he can square it either," said Mr Kimball, a retired university politics professor who served as another Boston area bishop, and then spent seven years as Mr Romney's executive secretary when he was stake president.

"I am dismayed by the things he clearly feels the need to do as a political candidate. This is totally foreign to the way he spoke and presided in the church. It's not the same person.

"The hard-edged individualism, the turning his back on the poor, the arguing that the rich deserve more tax breaks, that is all counter to what Mormonism teaches about compassion and collective care.

"Mitt seems to create a caricature of Obama and the Democrats and then attacks that creation. I think he lacks the antenna that a good politician needs and I have serious misgivings about how he would manage the White House."

Mr Romney did have Mormon detractors back in his days as bishop and stake president. Among the most vocal was Judith Dushku, the editor of a feminist Mormon magazine who clashed repeatedly with Mr Romney.

"His attitude is always, 'I know what's best. I'm the interpreter of Mormonism for all Mormons and you have no right to comment on it and if you do comment on it, you're wrong,'" she told CNN recently.

Most notably, a mother of four published a letter in the magazine in which she said that her bishop - whom she later identified as Mr Romney - pressured her not to have an abortion despite developing a blood clot that put her health at risk when she became pregnant for the fifth time in her mid-40s. Mr Romney has since said that he does not recall issuing such specific instructions.

Sandy Catalano had a very different experience, however. A former Roman Catholic, she converted to Mormonism in the early 1980s, but her husband Ron viewed her new faith as a cult and the strain almost destroyed their marriage. Then she fell ill, and as Mr Catalano struggled to care for their two children, Mr Romney took time off work and arranged for Church members to help the couple.

"Ronnie started to realise that the Church was full of kind people, although he was still sceptical about some of the tenets," she said.

"Then he lost his photography business and Mitt came up with maintenance jobs for him do around the church. He went out of his way to help Ronnie find work and maintain his integrity."

Her husband eventually converted to Mormonism 11 years after his wife. "I have seen Mitt help hundreds of people in our sort of situation," she said. "He genuinely cares and is very compassionate. I wish more people knew that about him."

On the campaign trail, it is left to Mr Romney's wife Ann – as natural as he is stiff - to provide the personal touch that he seems unwilling or unable to deliver. Just last week, she recalled how they both welled up with tears when she was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1998, the year before they moved to Utah so that Mr Romney could step in and head the struggling Winter Olympic organising committee.

She also disclosed that her MS, long in remission, had briefly flared up again under the pressures of the intense Republican primary battle this spring. Initially, Mrs Romney did not even tell her husband, concerned that it would undermine his campaigning.

Some mix of the couple's five clean-cut sons – two in finance, two in real estate and one a doctor – their wives and 18 grandchildren often join the Romneys at campaign events that invariably convey an image of family wholesomeness.

It was as a 21-year-old that Mr Romney was plunged into his first experience of a leadership role by tragedy during his time as a young missionary in France in 1968. He was driving Duane Anderson, the mission president, and his wife to a meeting when another car on the wrong side of the road smashed head on into their vehicle.

Mr Anderson's wife was killed and Mr Romney was left in hospital with serious injuries. But after he recovered, he was drafted in as acting president of the mission office.

His family history is inextricably linked to such missions. His great-great-grandfather Miles Romney, a carpenter from Dalton-in-Furness, converted to the religion in 1837 after hearing the first overseas missionary speak near Preston. Miles and his wife subsequently emigrated to the US in 1841.

Mr Romney's father George was born in Mexico in an enclave set up by Mormon polygamists fleeing sheriffs in America after the practice was outlawed. George's parents moved back to the US when he was five and he later became head of American Motors, governor of Michigan and ran unsuccessfully for president in 1968.

It is all part of a compelling story that would feature prominently for many presidential candidates - but not, it seems, for Mitt Romney, even as he prepares to take centre stage at his party's nominating convention in Tampa next week.

PS:The Mormon Church is one of the fastest growing EJs in India and can be found in the major metros and even in some tier-2 cities.Run from their HQ in the Phillipines,the Mormons flush with cash have set up their "temples" in posh localities in some cities.

[svinayak]

Mormons are losing numbers in US and other places.
I have been to Salt Lake City Utah and thier main Temple.
My cousins who did his PhD from there has all the info

They have a large internet digital advertizing budget and one can see it in Indian sites.
That explains their drive

They are trying to cash into the EJ drive started by Bush. This needs to be countered and completely stopped.

White identity of the US churches have become a barrier to their image expansion.
They are seen more as having geo political agenda.

I have to talk to my EJ philipino friend and find out what is their next plans. Episcopal also as big ambitions.

[Manny]

Actually, Among the various christian groups, Mormons are one of the benign ones. Catholics are good and bad. They do plenty of good too so its a wash. But the worst is Southern Baptists and Pentacostals. They are often militants...they train people against their own countrymen.. like you find in the North East of India. For these two groups, "Doing good" is not a requirement as a theological doctrine. In fact, they feel, its a hurdle to get converts. So they rather use the money for bribing village heads and convert the entire village in one weekend. They have achieved this in the south. Nagercoil, Kanyakumari district is 55% Christians...they achieved this in the last decade.

How many people here know that the south of Tamilnadu, Christians are the majority?

The biggest lie that is being spread in India is that christians are only 2% of the population in India. A govt sponsored lie.

Why should this matter? I could care less if 50% of the people in India convert to Judaism or Sikhsim or Jainism or Shintoism.. in none of those cases, they would turn against their countrymen. No not that christians would...no But Evangelicals certainly would.

[Philip]

The EJ movements who offer even lakhs for converts are to be despised and exposed.They come flush with funds from American "churches",send pics of large meetings and claim to have converted "X" number of "heathens" and are also part of the CIA's secret war against India.The worst of these scumbags are of the type who orchestrated the protests at Koodamkulam trying to sabotage the Indo-Russian nuclear cooperation.many of these fake NGOs are now udner the cosh from the govt. for misuse oif foreign funds.

However,do not underestimate the power,financial strength and reach of the Mormons.They are highly organised and look to skim the "cream" of converts.Their temples in India are superbly built,flawless in finish.Along with the large number of Brigham Young (Mormon) students who you find as visitors,they plan well ahead.Like an octopus,the US has a multi-tentacled approach to acquiring India by stealth.There are several routes to reach its objectives just as there are several paths to a mountain peak.Even the religious route has its highways and by-ways.If Mitt-the-Mormon wins,the globe will see the true face and ambitions of the cult Mormonism.We've already seen the unmatched damage to the globe that one nut-case EJ in the White House (Dubya) did,what can we expect when another cult leader is in charge of the world's most pwoerful nation?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/au ... y-election
Mormons in the spotlight as a faith goes mainstream

Mitt Romney doesn't want his religion to become a political issue – but there's no stopping a growing curiosity about it. All sides agree this presidential election brings a vital moment for a once-persecuted faith

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They are calling it the "Mormon moment". As Mitt Romney, a former Mormon bishop as well as a former governor of Massachusetts, runs for the White House, the transformation of Mormonism from persecuted and obscure frontier faith to significant world religion seems complete.

If Romney were to become president of the United States it would turn a practising and devout Mormon into the most powerful man in the world. The mere fact of his nomination run in the Republican party has already shone an intense media spotlight on the faith and its spiritual home amid the valleys and high desert mountains of Utah.

That spotlight is uncovering a complex set of sensitivities and affiliations. Many Mormons, while welcoming a chance to spread their beliefs, are deeply nervous about all the attention. Their faith, founded in the 1830s in upstate New York, was, after all, forced west by persecution and hatred.

"I am torn. I love that people are talking about my religion," said Craig Janis, a young Mormon professional sitting in a trendy coffee shop in downtown Salt Lake City. "That's good for the church. But a lot of Mormons can be very defensive. There is a persecution complex."

Whatever the wishes of some, there is no stopping the conversation now. Mormonism is one of the world's fastest growing religions and now has 14.4 million members. It requires young members to serve abroad, giving it a 55,000-strong worldwide missionary force at any one time.

With its headquarters in Salt Lake City, Mormonism is rapidly becoming part of the US mainstream. Democratic Senate leader Harry Reid is a Mormon. So is rightwing firebrand Glenn Beck. The main hit show on Broadway is The Book of Mormon. In some ways, a Romney presidency would just be the cherry on the cake. Many compare it to John F Kennedy's 1960 presidential win, which marked a breakthrough for Roman Catholics.

For Janis, however, that would not be a welcome development. The young lawyer and technology entrepreneur does not want to see a Romney presidency. Defying the stereotype of Mormons as a politically homogenous group , Janis is both a practising Mormon and a fervent Democrat. He has no time for Romney. "He bends so far to the right," Janis said.

Nor is Janis alone. Mormonism generally, with its keen focus on the family, is a Republican stronghold: one recent survey showed 74% of Mormons are Republican-leaning. But it is not a straightforward issue. "You are going to get a much higher percentage of black Americans voting for Barack Obama than you will Mormons voting for Romney," said Jeremy Lott, editor of the website Real Clear Religion.

In Utah last year, a state organisation was formed called LDS Democrats – the LDS referring to the faith's full name, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints – and it has grown to 2,000 members. This year they will for the first time travel to the Democratic party's national convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, where Obama will be nominated for re-election.

Members of the LDS Democrats are a broad political church. Social issues such as abortion and gay marriage are part of the debate, but opposing them is not the disqualifier that it might be in more liberal parts of America.

"We want people who are socially conservative and who are socially liberal," said LDS Democrats' vice-chair Crystal Young-Otterstrom. With her young daughter on her lap, she laughed as she described the group's mission in the heart of Mormon country: "We are making converts, so to speak."

Democratic Mormons like Janis and Young-Otterstrom are as religious as their Republican counterparts. But they have drawn a different lesson from Mormonism's past and theology.

They look at its history of persecution – inspired largely by its early members' embracing of polygamy – and its long, hard trek across the continent. In the settlement and cultivation of the hard desert soil of Utah into a flourishing state, they see the triumph of communal values. In the bustling modern metropolis of Salt Lake City, and its many quiet, prosperous suburbs, they see the fulfilment of Democratic values. After all it is a Mormon's religious duty to relieve poverty.

"It is a misnomer to believe that this valley was settled with rugged individualism," said Steve Olsen, a former Mormon bishop, like Romney, and author of a book aimed at Mormons, Why You May Be a Liberal (And That's Okay). "It was settled with community spirit, unselfishness and people working together."

Of course, other Mormons disagree. Rather than opposing Romney from the left, they attack him from the right. Examining the same Mormon history and theology, some see Mormonism as a natural home for conservative libertarianism. The one thing these groups agree on is that Romney would be a disaster. "I think Obama is driving this country off a cliff at 100 mph. Romney would slow us down to maybe 95," said Connor Boyack, who recently founded his own libertarian thinktank in Utah. He too has a book out, Latter Day Liberty, in which he uses Mormon scripture to espouse anti-big government beliefs. Sitting in Starbucks in the Utah city of Orem – and, as a devout Mormon, scrupulously avoiding the coffee – Boyack can't disguise his contempt for Romney. "I think he's horrible. I say that without hesitation. As a person I am sure that he is a good husband and father and a shrewd businessman. That's not a statement on his character. It's a statement on his public policies. They are horrible," he said.

Would he vote for Romney? "Certainly not," he replied.

But perhaps no one should be surprised that a more nuanced picture of the faith is emerging as Mormonism emerges into the mainstream alongside Romney's presidential campaign. After all, no community of millions of people can be a homogenous bloc backing a co-religionist. Especially when it comes to Romney, who – fearful of angering the Republican evangelical right – makes little reference to his faith.

Yet Mormonism has deep abiding characteristics that does unite members. Nearly all Mormons have an overwhelming focus on family, believing the family unit to be sacred and eternal. They believe it extends after death, hence the controversial practice of baptising the dead. Salt Lake City and other Mormon-heavy communities seem full to bursting with young couples with large broods of children settled into suburban life. "About the one sort of cult that the Mormons don't mind being called is a cult of the family," said Lott.

This, perhaps coupled with religious restrictions on caffeine and alcohol, appears to have created a highly productive work ethic that has meant Utah has emerged as an attractive place for companies to relocate. The centre of Salt Lake City has sprouted new skyscrapers that tower over the delicate spires of the city's Temple, the true spiritual home of the faith. It is also a tight-knit community in which the church plays a huge role.

Tithing – where a percentage of income is given to church charities – is very common. Mormons are supported by an activist church, generous in its welfare programmes and which provides a cheap higher education at Salt Lake City's Brigham Young University: something debt-laden non-Mormon college students in America are intensely envious of. All of that, coupled with its history of persecution, has sometimes led to accusations of an insular culture whose self-reliance can be seen as defensiveness. "Sometimes there is not a lot of love for Mormons in the world," said Young-Otterstrom.

The rest of America is certainly curious but not always kindly. The Mormon habit of wearing sacred undergarments, which look a little like old-fashioned long-johns, has become the butt of "magic underpants" jokes.

The teachings of Mormonism are also likely to raise a few eyebrows as they become better known. Mormonism describes a history in which Christ visits America and in which Native Americans are the descendants of a lost tribe of Israel. Added to that is the controversial history of the church, which saw founder Joseph Smith murdered by a mob and which once discriminated against black people. In the face of this, it is perhaps no surprise that Romney has rarely spoken of his beliefs in terms of Mormonism, but rather in terms of devotion to Jesus. In 2007, before his first run for the Republican nomination, Romney sought to kill the issue. He gave a heavily touted speech in which he said: "I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavour to live by it." But that was the only moment in the speech he said the word "Mormon". And the 2012 campaign has shown there is a huge difference between Romney's no-doubt-sincere private commitment to Mormonism and his public one.

Despite Romney's reticence, Mormonism is clearly growing in the collective consciousness of an America that once sought bloodily to exterminate it. And the church knows that the Romney run is an opportunity. "Mormonism is the most ambitious religion that I have ever encountered. I think that the view of the church when it comes to Romney's run is that it will be worth it, win or lose," said Lott.

The church has been assiduously preparing for the spotlight. Since 2010 it has spent millions of dollars on a publicity campaign called "I am a Mormon" that is aimed at highlighting the ordinary Americanness of its members. Websites have been set up to counter myths – especially related to polygamy, which the church banned more than a century ago.

Some local congregations have been organising outreach sessions with non-Mormons, often in states far away from Utah. And all the time the church is insisting that it does not want to get involved in the rough and tumble world of US presidential politics.

Indeed, when contemplating the prospect of a Mormon president in the shape of Romney, Janis does not really see the future of the faith. Instead, he sees a throwback: a conservative white male with rightwing opinions on everything from attacking Iran to tax breaks for the rich to gay rights.

"I remember the last time we had a Republican president in the shape of George W Bush. He was the most unpopular person in the world. Having a Mormon as the new most unpopular person in the world would worry me," he said.

[svinayak]

No govt in the world allows these kind of un verified so called 'religions' to come inside and put money to 'buy' people like this.

[svinayak]

This may explain many things

http://bharatabharati.wordpress.com/201 ... autam-sen/

Surrendering India’s Sovereign Independence – Gautam Sen
Posted on August 16, 2012 by IS

“There are compelling grounds for suspecting that senior members of all Indian political parties have been directly suborned and daily commit treason. Much of the sedition is on behalf of a militantly Christian US, which poses a treacherous threat to the cultural and religious integrity of India and its political autonomy. Unfortunately, it is abundantly clear that some politicians belonging to India’s ostensible nationalist constituency have also been compromised since the 1960s and earlier. There is evidence that one prominent nationalist politician signed documents that enabled Quattrocchi to evade justice in India.” – Dr. Gautam Sen

The Indian State is unravelling, suborned by imperial intruders, aided by traitors and ravaged by stunning levels of corruption and profligacy. It is allegedly led by a man whose principal claim to recognition has been probity, perhaps an irony only the Gods can rationalize. (The Gods - Hindoo or other - are not resposible for Indians' serial stupidity, nor are they expected to explain/rationalise Indians' irrational stupidity. Holding them accountable is as logical as to blame me for other people's mistakes...) Like most Indians, from all political persuasions, I had felt positive about Dr. Manmohan Singh’s appointment as Prime Minister of India in May 2004. Interviewed on British TV, alongside an obscure Congress apparatchik, who disgracefully denounced Atal Behari Vajpayee as a fascist, I acknowledged disappointment at Vajpayee’s electoral defeat and failure to gain a well-deserved second term. But I was also able to truthfully avow, as an Indian, that a man of considerable personal distinction would succeed him. All that is history now and Manmohan Singh has betrayed India utterly and will be remembered as the most disastrous choice to lead independent India. His abject and dishonourable co-conspirator is to reside in Rashtrapati Bhavan.

The UPA coalition has exceeded all imaginable limits of indecency and avarice. Its rampant plunder and injury to the nation, which, for the first time had the possibility of overcoming the dire poverty that has ground down most Indians for more than a thousand years, is unforgivable. During a recent visit Hong Kong, Indian businessmen confided that they were regularly approached by Indian politicians for help to conceal amounts in excess of 5,000 crore rupees. An Indian banker, the Managing Director of a major British bank in the Middle East, confirmed that similar pleas from Indian politicians visiting Dubai and Doha were routine. He declared, with a chortle that illicit Indian investments and inclusive services of Bollywood starlets were an established feature of these cities, both for local and international clients, including visitors from Pakistan.

Evidently, the ghastly, historic Hindu Kush syndrome of the death-march of 100,000 Hindu slaves to Arabia and beyond has been transmuted into another venal guise. And a wider re-imposition of colonial rule over India itself is also proceeding apace, facilitated by the Au Pair and her treasonous cabal. Its modus vivendi differs from the audacious military assault sponsored by the Anglo-Americans against a succession of Arab countries at present. Instead they have resorted to multifarious techniques of covert intervention in India, which are also being deployed against Vladimir Putin’s Russia. The ongoing, contemporary Anglo-American subversion of India is essentially through diabolical Christian surrogates, in alliance with the Islam Ummah. This stratagem was earlier proposed by Mohammed Ali Jinnah to the British in 1946, as a suitable means of continuing Britain’s Indian empire by outmaneuvering what they both regarded as an essentially Hindu independence struggle.

Vast amounts of plundered wealth are being decanted from India, increasingly heading for the safe havens of Hong Kong and the Middle East. Contrary to the obsessions of ill-informed observers, Switzerland and various European destinations as well as Singapore are no longer the most favoured destinations. American threats against their banks have forced disclosures and there have been some spectacular leaks from insiders, who have revealed the names of account holders. Indians are also investing in property in Europe and they are one of the largest buyers of London real estate. Much of stolen proceeds fleeing India originate in the theft of state assets and corrupt government licensing, exposed by the notorious 2G scam, sold below market value. Some of it is repatriated through the diabolical vehicle of Participatory Notes, apparently designed expressly by the Indian State authorities to facilitate it. The phenomenon of looting has become so brazen under the rule of the Au pair and her corrupt retinue that it is likely that recalcitrant key politicians have already been bribed abroad to approve the entry of FDI in Indian retail.

Ransacking and colossal miss-spending, instigated by an immigrant Belgian economist with access to the highest power in the land, have also devastated Indian finances. This foreign infiltrator has in fact abjured providing an economic rationale for wrecking the Indian economy and asserts that it empowers the Indian poor politically. This is the argument implicitly espoused by Vatican levies engaged in proselytisation in India and explicit in the absurd Ranganathan and Sachar recommendations. The latter was savagely repudiated by none other than the former Revenue Secretary and one time Trinamul Rajya Sabha member, the keen admirer of Islamic rule in Bengal, Nitish Sengupta. Virtually every collapse of the State in history has been preceded by fiscal crisis, of the kind the UPA has now inflicted on India. As a result, an alarming setback of huge significance for India portends.

In the meantime, the warlike, militancy of Bangladeshi infiltrators in Assam, of which former Assam Governor Sinha had presciently warned, is unfolding grimly. At the time, General Sinha was berated for his pains by every treasonous Indian politician nursing a vote bank and media editors anxious for crumbs from the table of the powerful. The attempted ethnic cleansing of India’s Bodos is a preliminary foray, with astounding succour being offered by the Indian (*christian*) media, refusing to report actual events on the ground and lamenting instead the fate of Islamic Jihadis engaged in burning, looting and killing. In West Bengal, violent ethnic cleansing of Hindus has been taking place for a considerable period of time. It has the full support of the State’s political parties and law enforcement agencies, which explains the muted resistance to it. The police are always available to join forces with truculent Bangladeshi infiltrators to restrain Hindu protest.

Parts of West Bengal and swathes of Kolkata itself are already autonomous, de facto Islamic Republics. The Kashmir final solution of expelling all Hindus, sponsored by Pakistan, with the effective connivance of the Indian State, has spread to India’s eastern borders. There are now grounds for concluding that critical policy stances, like the reluctance to interdict Muslim infiltrators, are being dictated by Indian Muslim leaders, on whom political parties like the Congress, the SP, RJD, LJP, CPM and Trinamul, etc. depend for survival. These policy preferences apparently originate in Pakistan, with whom Indian Muslim leaders are in regular communication through Gulf and Saudi intermediaries.

In recent years, the Indian armed forces have been on a spending spree, but whether these vast acquisitions will enhance India’s defence capability in the short-to-medium term is another matter. The integration of hardware and equipment for satisfactory use and deployment will, in any case, take time. But the eagerness of Indian politicians to acquire military hardware is not motivated only by concern to defend India, but the opportunities for vast kickbacks these purchases invariably create. Such corrupt misconduct is standard practice and a supposedly honest Defence Minister is only required to feign ignorance that his political patrons are engaged in ruinous malfeasance. But corruption in defence purchases appears to have tainted the highest reaches of the armed forces.

It appears that promotions are being influenced by diabolical anxiety to ensure suitable officers, who will do the bidding of their political patrons, occupy the highest reaches of India’s armed forces. The hand of India’s ruling family is all but visible in the shameful manipulation behind the scenes to ensure its own enrichment from defence contracts. Such malign interference resulted in the foreseeable calamity of the Kargil war, since the designated commanding officer of the region was so preoccupied with his pet project, the Leh Zoo, he ignored repeated warnings that Pakistani forces were assembling for an assault against India. The Colonel who tried to alert his senior officers was eventually cashiered, providing insight into the utter venality of the arrogant and gormless IAS cadre, which has a free run of India’s Ministry of Defence.

India’s semi-literate Au Pair and her band of irredeemable slaves, at her family’s beck and call, have taken prodigious steps towards helping restore return colonial rule over India. The Vatican’s intelligence officers, active across India and their ultimate masters in Washington D.C. are seeking to restore the status quo Lord Curzon had warned Britain it should defend at all cost. Without India, Lord Curzon had proclaimed in 1908, Britain would be reduced to a minor statelet off the European coast, a likelihood Winston Churchill fully understood and feared and a fate that is finally overtaking bankrupt Britain. It might be recalled that during the 1950s, the US was proposing to open air and naval bases right across Pakistan, in Karachi, Baluchistan and Dhaka and publicly proclaiming its intention to ensure a Pakistani victory against India in any war over Kashmir. The usefulness of India for Western imperial designs endures, but seizing control of it is now to be facilitated through friendly comprador Indian elites, with embedded Christian support, to rule it and obey US dictates.

In December 1953, the Principal CIA officer in Delhi told Escott Reid, the Canadian Ambassador to India between 1952 and 1957, that a major future war could only be fought easily by Western powers if Indian manpower was available. This is a reality Indians cannot seem to grasp though India provided large armies during both world wars, only smaller than Soviet Russian forces during the Second World War. The significant christianising of India, to ensure a veto over its politics is the goal being pursued by all church denominations, assisted by secular Hindus and a vast army of subversives. All that is now required to demolish the existing Indian Union, in its current shape and prevailing national borders, is a simultaneous assault by China and Pakistan, with the latter faithfully carrying out instructions from the former. The Chinese are publicly discussing the feasibility of attacking India before 2018, when they consider India might be better prepared.

Nothing that happens in Indian politics today can be accounted for without considering the role of bribery, blackmail (often for sexual misconduct) and treason. It is highly likely that numbers of politicians in most parts of India, including UP, West Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra and Kerala as well as the Centre have been procured like call girls through bribery. These scandalous financial inducements originate in the Middle East, undoubtedly under the supervision of Pakistan and, of course, Western powers, as well as the global Church in all its villainous manifestations. Sectarian divisions within the latter are unhesitatingly set aside when their national States attempt to subvert non white, third world politicians for larger aims. Some of the corrupt funding originating abroad is being routed through Indian business magnates active in the Middle East. They presume their activities will be unaffected regardless of the type of political power reigning in Delhi, including re-established colonial conquest.

There are compelling grounds for suspecting that senior members of all Indian political parties have been directly suborned and daily commit treason. Much of the sedition is on behalf of a militantly Christian US, which poses a treacherous threat to the cultural and religious integrity of India and its political autonomy. Unfortunately, it is abundantly clear that some politicians belonging to India’s ostensible nationalist constituency have also been compromised since the 1960s and earlier. There is evidence that one prominent nationalist politician signed documents that enabled Quattrocchi to evade justice in India. Yet, there is solace knowing that China, the country much-admired by one segment of Indian traitors, executes for corruption. More pertinently, the death penalty remains on the Indian criminal statute and perhaps the next Indian prime minister will abolish the Presidential veto on capital punishment. And India will likely elect a political party in 2014 that solemnly promises legislation to ensure it. And should it name Narendra Modi as its prime ministerial candidate, the solitary nationalist politician with a modicum of credibility, the looming election campaign will be electrified. But Narendra Modi’s personal security will have to become ironclad. – Organiser, 15 August 2012


» Dr. Gautam Sen taught international political economy to graduate students for two decades at the London School of Economics & Political Science. He has published widely on the political economy of development, international trade issues, defence economics and India in scholarly journals and newspapers, including the London Times, EPW, The Pioneer and The Indian Express. He has recently co-authored a book on trade, money and investment. titled Analyzing the Global Political Economy, Princeton University Press, 2009. He was born in Varanasi, grew up in Calcutta and has lived in England for the past 38 years. Dr. Sen has been an adviser to the Prime Ministers of India and Nepal and is a member of the eminent person’s group of the Indo-UK Roundtable.

[Philip]

What Sen has written we've been saying on BR for aeons! The quislings,scumbags,intestinal parasites and fifth-columnists in the current regime of the "clean,good,honourable,etc.,etc.," mendicant of snake-oil,Dr.Singh and his Sancho Panzas like Montek, have not only brought back John Co.,beggared the nation with their combined UPA looting-the coal scam being the latest and largest of the lot,but have also conspired with the Islamists foreign and local,who have made massive inroads into the fabric of Indian society,and as we've just seen with their Paki handlers ,led to the flood of "returnees" from the N-east based upon mischievous,racist,fraudulent reporting in cyberspace.This dissolute and despicable regime now want to deliver the killer blow to the Indian economy by allowing Paki banks to openly operate here and flood the nation with their counterfeit notes.With a PM and UPA like "Singh & Co.",who needs traitors?

[kish]

Another shooting incident in U.S, 2 killed and several injured.

[Altair]

Another shooting incident in U.S, 2 killed and several injured.

awesome news! need more drone attacks in US killing innocent bystanders.

[Anindya]

Along the lines of what Dr. Sen is saying...

Another Partition?

[Katare]

Well where is Abhishek Sharma now, huh!

[kshatriya]

Is there any hope Or is India doomed for good ?

[devesh]

^^^
no point in whining. identify what you think is good and can survive. and then do everything to make sure it survives whatever the future has in store. collective action and expansion will come later when everybody can agree on a common set of principles. till that time we have no option but to do our best and hope for the same.

[abhishek_sharma]

Well where is Abhishek Sharma now, huh!

Here. What is your point?

[pentaiah]

Nothing Katare saab wanted to say

Khairiyat hai?

[shiv]

Is there any hope Or is India doomed for good ?

Doomed for good is always a great attitute to have. Lalu Prasad said it, so it must be true. Yediyurappa has not said it yet. I'm waiting.

[ramana]

Fareed bhai resigns from Yale Corp board. He wants to concentrate on his work. The New Haven Register had earlier called for his resignation due to charges against him.

[pentaiah]

He was back in his slot yesterday on CNN

[ramana]

He is back in CNN and Time which shows how brefit of talent they both are.

[svinayak]

For them he is the face for the outside world

[Suppiah]

^^^ the ROP version of house-n...word.

[ranjbe]

For what it's worth:
India gets special treatment in GOP platform
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/201 ... p_platform

[Sushupti]

[Anantha]

Thus spake another western coolie Dinesh D'souza (a well known Indian Republican and anti Black, racist clown)

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... E7F12B54EA



Do not forget to read the comments
Here is a sample from one Mr. K.Iyer from North Carolina

Mr. D'Souza's parents, grandparents, and great grandparents prospered in Portuguese Colony on Indian Soil because of their shrewd identification with the colonizer part of their heritage rather than the colonized part. Theirs is one of millions of families in South Asia and Africa with the nostalgic longing for the dominance of their “home country”. Their “advantages” vanished on those days when the Colonizers were booted out of places where governance without the consent of the governed was rejected. Mr. D'Souza simply continued the policy of what was in his blood when he arrived on the shores of the US of A. His embrace of Reagan has served him well. For him to tout his credentials and claim credibility to imply some insider knowledge of Mr. Obama's psyche is laughable. The differences between what made Mr. D'Souza who he is and what made Mr. Obama who he is can fill a library. I quote the words of an opportunist to describe Mr. D'Souza: “Love him/Hate him, Now you know him”.

[Hitesh]

That guy in the Elmo suit? Well he got detained by the police and sent off to the psychiatric hospital for a psychological evaluation and got slapped with a no-trespassing order with wearing any kind of suit or something. I believe that he was threatened to wear a suit for the rest of his life, a condom like rubber thing.

Nothing to get worked over a nutcase who is in serious need of a condom suit.

[Manny]

Another shooting incident in U.S, 2 killed and several injured.

awesome news! need more drone attacks in US killing innocent bystanders.

Whats wrong with you? A typical leftist desi... Sheesh! Do you hate Americans because they bomb Pakistanis? Does your bleeding heard bleed for them?

[Manny]

For what it's worth:
India gets special treatment in GOP platform
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/201 ... p_platform

Cool.. Only the leftists of India would percieve the US as India's enemy and hate that article. An I say..Bugger all to the leftists! The leftists of India are cause of 600 million crawling on the floor in India in abject poverty after 70 years of their monopoly in India.

[Manny]

He is back in CNN and Time which shows how brefit of talent they both are.

Yes..and his new program is called "Ctrl-C" & "Ctrl-V".

Like this witty comment that I Ctrl-C'ed and Ctrl-V'ed.

[Gus]

Is there an election watch thread, or is this it?

Ombaba should win, he has many routes to victory whereas Romney has to have everything go his way more or less.

But then Republicans are past masters in scare mongering their base and voter suppression of Democrat base (voter id laws, laws restricting voter registration drives by democrat friendly organizations etc. IIRC, Bush margin of victory over Gore in Florida was miniscule compared the votes that were invalid or voters who were denied vote. (That's my recollection, correct me if I am wrong)

[krisna]

^^^^
Gus there is an therad-Indian Interests in US Presidential Election Campaign 2012