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[member_23367]

Bangalore police have picked up 3 people for spreading rumours relating to the exodus. Apparently one activist printed 10,000 leaflets. Exodus from BLR down to 40 people and railways has confirmed they have cancelled their special trains.

There is an exercise on now in major cities to tell the youth to stop by getting imams and 'community elders' to issue calls in all the mosques etc.

Had the imams and so called "community elders" done this exercise on a regular basis after every friday prayers,world would have been a better place for everyone.Its like,Kauva kaan le gaya aur Kauva ke peeche bhaago.This is all Takiya by the imams and the "community elders".But why will they,their religion says otherwise.Here's a comment a poster put on another forum which very much describes the dilemma for us.

आसाम के दंगे हिन्दू -मुस्लिम दंगे न होकर बांग्लादेसी मुस्लिम्स और बोड़ो जन जाति के बीच के झगड़े है जो अब सांप्रदायिक दंगो का रंग ले चुके है । स्थानीय कॉलेज के स्टूडेंट्स का झगड़ा ,बढ़ कर दंगो का रूप ले चुका है ,और अफवाहों ने माहोल को गरम कर दिया है।परंतु दक्षिण भारत या यूपी मे मुसलमानो का उबाल खाना समझ से परे है । मुसलमान अपने मामूली जख्मो को बढ़ा चढ़ा कर और खुद के द्वारा किए बड़े नुकसान को मामूली बताने के आदि है और झूठ बोलने के उस्ताद है। मुस्लिम्स मे वतनपरस्ती न के बराबर होती है और इस्लाम परस्ती चरम पे होती है।दरअसल , मुस्लिम मे वतन के लिय मर मिटने का कही भी उल्लेख नहीं है , उनका कुर्बानी का जज्बा केवल इस्लाम तक सीमित होता है । वतन खतरे मे कह कर शायद ही किसी मुसलमान को युद्ध के लिय तयार किया जा शके पर इस्लाम खतरे मे कह कर उनको युद्ध के लिय तत्काल भड़काया जा शकता है। येही कारण है की आज मुसलमान ,इराक , अरब या ईरान या पाकिस्तान के लिय नहीं मर रहा बल्कि वो इस्लाम के खतरे से ही जूझ रहा है । अमेरिका ने इराक पे हमला किया और बसरा से बगदाद तक बड़े आराम से चला गया कही कोई विरोध नहीं हुआ और सद्दाम को भाग खड़ा होना पड़ा , यह सब साबित करता है की इनमे वतन परस्ती न के बराबर है । मध्यकाल की लड़ाई भी इस्लामी वर्चस्व की ही लड़ाई थी ,कभी भी किसी मुस्लिम कंट्री ने राष्ट्रियता की भावना से कोई युद्ध नहीं लड़ा । संक्षेप मे , इस्लाम और राष्ट्रियता साथ नहीं चल शकती । कुछ लोग (RSS ) यह भी सोचते है की मुस्लिम्स को अपनी इतिहासिक जड़ो को याद रखना चाहिय की इंडिया मे उनके पूर्वज कभी हिन्दू या बोद्ध थे , परंतु उनके लिय मै लिख दूँ की मुस्लिम्स मे मुस्लिम बनते ही तत्काल अपने गत समय (past) को भूलना ही पड़ता है , और गैर -मुस्लिम उनके लिय एक अजनबी बन जाता है भले ही उ***ा सगा भाई ही क्यो न हो ।उधाहरण :- (1) 1857 से पहले , कुछ अंग्रेज़ ,इंडिया मे मुगल लेडिज से शादी कर मुसलमान बन गए थे , ईस्ट इंडिया कंपनी ने गदर मे उनको मुस्लिम की साइड मे लड़ते देखा और सर्प्राइज़ किया की उनकी लोयल्टी अंग्रेजों के साथ बिलकुल भी नहीं थी हालांकि वो ब्रिताइन मूल के थे , अंग्रेज़ो ने उन मुस्लिम अंग्रेज़ो भी फांसी पे टांगा । (2) इस्लाम के नबी मोहम्मद ने अपने को बचपन मे पालने वाले अपने सगे चाचा आबु तालिब ( अली का फादर ) की मय्यत मे सामील होने से इंकार कर दिया और अली को दफनाने को जाने को कहा क्योकि आबु तालिब ने अपने मरते वक़्त तक इस्लाम स्वीकार नहीं किया था । इन दो उदाहरणो से साफ हो जाएगा की इस्लाम मे वतन , नाते , रिस्ते , इतिहास सब बेकार है और मजहब सब कुछ । इसी मानसिकता के कारण दंगे -फसाद , युद्ध , बगावत सब कुछ तय होता है। आसाम के दंगो पे मुसलमानो का उबलना कोई वतन परस्ती नहीं , राष्ट्रीय एकता नहीं बस केवल मजहबपरस्ती है बिना यह सोचे समझे की सायद गलती असम मे मुसलमानो की ही हो , पर मजहबपरसती के आगे इंसाफ की बात ही करना बेमानी है।

[nakul]

On the Friday prayers before the Mumbai riots, the imams and the mullahs were exhorting the muslims to stand for their brethren in assam & Myanmar. The mumbai police obviously knows this but is tackling the problem by arresting a man with a gun. As long as the perpetrators are roaming scot free, there is every reason for non muslims (including NE) to believe that the state machinery is not going to come to their aid.

[svenkat]

KPS Gill once said tht the liberal face of Islam will triumph in India.The muslims will 'stick' to 'real' religion and live with fellow Indians harmoniously.Hope KPS Gill is right.

OTOH,Cashmere,pakistan,BD tell a different story.Also the fifth columnists among us-sikular liberals,sections of church leadership,hindu petty leadership are a very real threat.

shyamdji,
I respect you as the voice of the Establishment.Its no easy job to lead India.The GOI tries its best to meet aspirations and also have a long time vision.

But the open 'insurgrency/revolt' by sections of one community in Mumbai,Pune,Bengaluru,Chennai(If its the handiwork of one community in spreading rumours and threatening NE people) is disturbing given the total silence from the 'Eastablishment/media' in even acknowledging the Islamist mindset.

How does the Establishment(which has to win elections in a 'fractured polity' )see the ominous developments or do they see these are just 'local issues' hyped by saffron terrorists.

[nakul]

KPS Gill once said tht the liberal face of Islam will triumph in India.The muslims will 'stick' to 'real' religion and live with fellow Indians harmoniously.Hope KPS Gill is right.

There is a condition to that. If a non Muslim appeaser govt is at the helm, KPS Gill would be correct. In the absence of a strong govt, we can see the Islamisation of the region. The only way to prevent it is to show who is the boss.

[shyamd]

Looks like exodus will be temporary. So most of the people leaving will be back after a month or so. The key is to prevent any sort of mass carnage/rioting.

Let's see what happens.

[brihaspati]

If the line is to say that the mass exodus was engineered so that any planned riot violence on them cannot be carried out - and then they will be returned after the fever in the peaceful and special rashtryia protected theology goes down a bit - then already the theology has won. The state, instead of giving the treatment that it so joyfully meted out to similar ideologically motivated non-Muslim identities as in the Sikhs or early Maoists, has instead partially made the victims responsible for the suffering. It is the intended victims who have to leave - not the mullah. Jai ho!

[member_20317]

@ Shyamd

And after that?

[brihaspati]

KPS Gill once said tht the liberal face of Islam will triumph in India.The muslims will 'stick' to 'real' religion and live with fellow Indians harmoniously.Hope KPS Gill is right.

There is a condition to that. If a non Muslim appeaser govt is at the helm, KPS Gill would be correct. In the absence of a strong govt, we can see the Islamisation of the region. The only way to prevent it is to show who is the boss.

KPS Gill is of course right. he merely syas that the "liberal face" will triumph. Mind it - its onlee the face, the mask. When he says they will "stick" to the "real religion" he is also correct. Because the real religion always comes out when it becomes majority. Not a single country has ever been an exception - sooner or later, the real religion always, always comes out. As in the ME, the African Muslim majority countries like North Sudan or Nigeria, or even Egypt with its nice continuous treatment of surviving pockets of Copts, BD with its continuous pogroms on Hindus and Buddhists, Malaysia with its Islamic Affairs ministry now annuling marriages of mixed religion couples, Indonesian Islamism slowly but surely crushing non-Muslim dissent, and lets leave out such wonderful examples as pakiland out of this.

So as Gill describes, by the time the real religion comes out - it is already the majority - and no problem in ensuring harmony within that majority as well as outside - a la Iran say. KPS Gill is a seer. His selective foresight is much appreciated. Was his enlightenment helped along by SS.Ray - the implementor of selective violence on insurgency [in India onlee the non-Muslim and non-Christian sourced violence is anathema and fit for proper Chilean or Peruvian type love] in WB and the grandson of C.R.Das, the first one to raise and recruit future genocide planners like Suhrawardy?

[shyamd]

Things will carry on as if nothing happened as always

[RamaY]

some times I wonder in which planet is BRF hosted.

Planet where it was once mentioned that the yanks attacked OBL as they were afraid Indians would get there first !
How can we even think of solutions when we haven't identified the problems yet ?

Ambar

What is the context Pentaiah posted that and what nonsense you are inferring out of it?

Why didn't you post your lone "Muslims contributed to building temple" news item so you can teach us what the real problems and solutions are?

[Anindya]

Northeast exodus: Bangalore cops get into top gear over rumors

the Wilson Garden police acted swiftly and arrested three employees of the supermarket after the victim, Lai Lai Vaphai, alias Lilio, a resident of Wilson Garden, was beaten up on Friday afternoon by Abrar Ahmed 23, a sales team leader in the supermarket, Mohammed Salman, 22, and Maksood, 24, also employees of the same supermarket.

An investigating officer said the arrested trio, on being interrogated, had showed the police clippings of the Assam riots which had incited them into assaulting Vaphai.

[brihaspati]

Curious, was there exodus the pervious year too on any occasion? Why is it so natural this year? Given the generally unsettled conditions in Assam tribal belt to which many of these exodus population will go to, is it very natural to expect that they want to bring along their family [some with infants and young children] into a region where huts and living spaces, even temporary shelters have not been built yet?

[nakul]

So as Gill describes, by the time the real religion comes out - it is already the majority - and no problem in ensuring harmony within that majority as well as outside - a la Iran say. KPS Gill is a seer. His selective foresight is much appreciated. Was his enlightenment helped along by SS.Ray - the implementor of selective violence on insurgency [in India onlee the non-Muslim and non-Christian sourced violence is anathema and fit for proper Chilean or Peruvian type love] in WB and the grandson of C.R.Das, the first one to raise and recruit future genocide planners like Suhrawardy?

Is there a way to stop or reverse this process apart from genocide or deportation on a massive scale?

[brihaspati]

I guess the sms's and other threats would alos be mixed in under the name of some cooked up outfit that sounds saffron. So the rashtryia security wings can quickly pounce on any political targets needed to be made an example of. One never knows, how many practice sessions one needs with repeated administration of truth serums in preparation for the master's political needs!

[brihaspati]

So as Gill describes, by the time the real religion comes out - it is already the majority - and no problem in ensuring harmony within that majority as well as outside - a la Iran say. KPS Gill is a seer. His selective foresight is much appreciated. Was his enlightenment helped along by SS.Ray - the implementor of selective violence on insurgency [in India onlee the non-Muslim and non-Christian sourced violence is anathema and fit for proper Chilean or Peruvian type love] in WB and the grandson of C.R.Das, the first one to raise and recruit future genocide planners like Suhrawardy?

Is there a way to stop or reverse this process apart from genocide or deportation on a massive scale?

Yes there is - the rashtra has to become strictly secular. It has to remove and viciously crush any religious institutional claim of authority that tries to come in between the rashtra and its citizen. It has to place religious rights at the bottom of all other fundamental rights - so that if any other fundamental right clashes with a religious claim, the other right wins. It has to systematically undermine religious institutional authority that claims to have first priority of ownership over its following over and above that of the rashtra. Finally, the rashtra has to ensure and promote complete freedom of speech and the right to criticize or critique any ideology, and derecognize any claims of ideological immunity by any religion.

Oh, yes, also treat financial flows in every religion equally, and perhaps manage centrally [no heavy pawing of onlee Hindu temples, but also pawing of Waqf and the Church. In Germany, church tithes are taken by the state and disbursed according to the wishes of the donee.] The juice of the theologians flow in money and power.

[sudarshan]

^^^ Good points, but they don't preclude the possibility of silent demographic change under the veil of taqqiya, with the eventual installation of an individual who will then promptly reverse the entire process. I'd say we also need to expand the shuddhi movement ten- or a hundred-fold from the current trickle.

[brihaspati]

^^to do a shuddhi movement you need non-interference from the rashtra - the point I included in the removal-of-immunity clause. As it stands, you would immdiately land up in jail, [especially if a "Hindu" is trying to purify a Muslim or a Christian, while for the Muslim or th Christian it is a natural birthright to be looked away from by the rashtryia enforcers] - if even a 10-year old Alim student complains that you are trying to convert or preach against the religion.

[Anantha]

One of the things that must be done to secure internal security of India is to weaken and dilute Islam. It is not as difficult as it sounds. Muslims in India themselves have become a bit more modern than 100 years ago. Highly co-ordinated activities are needed and is possible in the age of Internet and other social media. For eg see the amount of negative image of Islam that Americans have in the last 10-15 years.

For eg we can have mass emails to Hindus on ridiculous inconsistencies in Islam for eg fresh water and salt water not mixing, Mohammed splitting the moon, flat earth, family inheritance fractions adding up to more than 1, pre-Islamic Saudi Arabia practices, genocide of non-muslims etc. As koran is considered directly dictated by "God" it cannot have a single inconsistency. So choosing a few hard core idiotic examples will do. The ridiculousness of Koran should be conveyed to all Hindus, so that more and more people will start challenging Koran. Remember to never hate or say that you ar anti-muslim, but always maintain the Koran is flawed and written by 7th century barbarians fit for that times and for Arab land.
We need to have an Iran that can balance pakiland but not strong enough to be a Islamic leader to cause pan-Islamic problems. Even though Israel's role in ME on civilian population is less than stellar, we need to realize that Israel has been a strong force in weakening Islam. Israel in control of ME is the best option we have.

[member_23367]

One of the things that must be done to secure internal security of India is to weaken and dilute Islam. It is not as difficult as it sounds. Muslims in India themselves have become a bit more modern than 100 years ago. Highly co-ordinated activities are needed and is possible in the age of Internet and other social media. For eg see the amount of negative image of Islam that Americans have in the last 10-15 years.

For eg we can have mass emails to Hindus on ridiculous inconsistencies in Islam for eg fresh water and salt water not mixing, Mohammed splitting the moon, flat earth, family inheritance fractions adding up to more than 1, pre-Islamic Saudi Arabia practices, genocide of non-muslims etc. As koran is considered directly dictated by "God" it cannot have a single inconsistency. So choosing a few hard core idiotic examples will do. The ridiculousness of Koran should be conveyed to all Hindus, so that more and more people will start challenging Koran. Remember to never hate or say that you ar anti-muslim, but always maintain the Koran is flawed and written by 7th century barbarians fit for that times and for Arab land.
We need to have an Iran that can balance pakiland but not strong enough to be a Islamic leader to cause pan-Islamic problems. Even though Israel's role in ME on civilian population is less than stellar, we need to realize that Israel has been a strong force in weakening Islam. Israel in control of ME is the best option we have.

Not possible under her..


Sonia Gandhi attends Roza Iftar in Raebareli

[sudarshan]

Well, I did say "also" .

Just a question for you, B ji. You said Hindu voting patterns were heavily influenced by coercion by the establishment. Is the same true (in your opinion/experience) for minority voting patterns, or is religion enough of an influence on them? Just trying to understand how strong this religious influence is - does it need to be buttressed by threats and intimidation, or is it sufficient by itself?

[JwalaMukhi]

The basic struggle with the powers that be is how to accommodate a shariah compliant islamic (republic)system under the facade of democratic garb. Democracy, even nominal one as practiced in India is incompatible with islamic tenets. But democracy as practiced by India is extremely conducive for islamic tenets. The nation is like a headless chicken trying to reconcile the incompatibility with conducive-ness. Democracy as practiced is a very potent tool to enhance establishment of the islamic colonization. That much is clear. Incompatibility part is loosing.

Can a fake democracy provide solution when it is part of the problem? Unlikely, but it does provide lot of false sense of hope that somehow it might have capability to reform itself. The system has reformed itself to become an impediment to anything worthwhile to be effected.

One only hopes none of the NE guys who were forced out from bengaluru to assam by islamics, at a later day proudly claim that islamics have first right to resources in assam.

Solution rests on individual intelligence, goodwill and common sense. Depending on a broken system that is part of the problem to provide solution is hoping pigs to fly.

[Anindya]

Have not been able to verify this through any other source...but FWIW...

Pakistan’s Independence Day celebrating in Hyderabad

Pakistan’s 65th Independence Day celebrations was organized by a community at Exhibition grounds,Hyderabad today lead to mild tension there.

After knowing, celebrations would start with the Pakistani flag hoisting ceremony in Exhibition grounds, Nampally,Hyderabad. Vishwa Hindu Parishad plunged into action to stop this flag hoisting. They said it is unethical to host our enemy country flag.

While the police immediately responded took control of the situation and the whole Exhibition grounds , sent back the two groups from there. Now, Situation under control.

[JwalaMukhi]

Just a question for you, B ji. You said Hindu voting patterns were heavily influenced by coercion by the establishment. Is the same true (in your opinion/experience) for minority voting patterns, or is religion enough of an influence on them? Just trying to understand how strong this religious influence is - does it need to be buttressed by threats and intimidation, or is it sufficient by itself?

If I may:
Hindus have learnt not to depend on the mammaries of the system to provide and hope for anything. Hence coercion is needed by the establishment. While minorities heavily depend on the mammaries of the system to provide any number of things, not least of all the patronage. The establishment depends on the minorities to continue to feel important in scheme of things. It is a mutual dependency and dance.
Those that look to succor from the establishment will negotiate voluntarily with the entrenched interest either peacefully or really peacefully. But those who see establishment as one more thing to deal with will need to be coerced to support it.

[johneeG]

The basic struggle with the powers that be is how to accommodate a shariah compliant islamic (republic)system under the facade of democratic garb. Democracy, even nominal one as practiced in India is incompatible with islamic tenets. But democracy as practiced by India is extremely conducive for islamic tenets. The nation is like a headless chicken trying to reconcile the incompatibility with conducive-ness. Democracy as practiced is a very potent tool to enhance establishment of the islamic colonization. That much is clear. Incompatibility part is loosing.

Can a fake democracy provide solution when it is part of the problem? Unlikely, but it does provide lot of false sense of hope that somehow it might have capability to reform itself. The system has reformed itself to become an impediment to anything worthwhile to be effected.

One only hopes none of the NE guys who were forced out from bengaluru to assam by islamics, at a later day proudly claim that islamics have first right to resources in assam.

Solution rests on individual intelligence, goodwill and common sense. Depending on a broken system that is part of the problem to provide solution is hoping pigs to fly.

+1.
Democracy(and SECULARISM), as practiced, are potent tools to enhance establishment of Islamic colonization(and/or EJ colonization and/or Commie colonization ... so on).

I think Ramana Garu said it perfectly when he said that one must look at the post 1947 period as a Nehru dynasty rule. Just as India was once ruled by Mughal rule, British rule, ...etc, the latest dynasty is Nehru dynasty rule(that practices 'socialism' and 'secularism'). To practice 'socialism', it needs to perpetuate poverty and to practice 'secularism', it needs to appease the minority.

[Anantha]

SamG,
One thing I left unsaid is, this operation should not have anything to do with the Govt, it has to be an effort at individual Hindu level (if some sympathetic govt. folks take part on their private time it is good). I have seen this work to a certain extent before. I have had friends (from the so called Hindu fundis group) who predicted twenty years ago that the current situation will happen and have consistently exposed Koranic contradiction in front of me. This awareness needs to be brought to the media brainwashed Hindus and this is the time to do it when the Loha is garam.
An example is Swami Vivekananda; when he addressed the parliament of religions he had already studied all the religions and knew the weaknesses in them (read the book on his letters) and could easily debunk others while emphasizing the positive nature of Hinduism.
Before one turns negative think of the ten's of millions of our forefathers who died to protect our freedom loving and forward looking dharmic heritage. But for their sacrifices we would not have come this far. A simple example is the suppression of the fact that more than 100,000 people have given up their lives just to get the Ram Janmabhoomi to this stage.
The least we can do is to educate the sleeping Hindu.

[RoyG]

This is a much better picture of muslims trying to deface the statue.

http://twitter.com/Hindujagrutiorg/stat ... to/1/large

[Singha]

Home Secy R K Singh has just gone on TV all channels that bulk of SMS and MMS were being sent from (surprise) Pakistan and that 34 websites were also found uploading doctored images of things ranging from people dead in cyclones to tibet earthquakes.

game is up. the other thing is to find out if the local ghazis did a co-ordination with their pak handlers or just jumped on the opportunity to be a rageboy.

[Anindya]

Cops nab gang which sent hate SMSs in Bangalore

BANGALORE: Director general of police Lalrokhuma Pachau claimed police caught three persons sending hate SMSs and MMSs, after a raid at an electronic shop in Koramangala on Saturday.

He said the investigating team received information that Anees Pasha, 26, who runs a mobile shop called New Fonotech in Koramangala VII Block, started spreading rumours through SMSs and uploading videos electronically to incite hatred against people from the northeast region.

Police raided the shop, arrested Anees and seized incriminating mobile phones, computers and laptops. Anees told police that he and his associates were sending SMSs to a large number of people which wrongly depicted violence in the northeast.

Pachau said the mischief played by Anees and his brother, Thaseem Nawaz, 32, of Platinum Court in BTM I Stage, and an associate Shahid Salman Khan, 22, of Teachers' Colony in Venkatapura, had resulted in the panic and fear.

...
"We are unable to give details of recordings of MMS clippings of violence in Assam. But we firmly believe they had partly committed the mischief, that led to the exodus," said a police officer.

A senior officer said the youths caught are believed to have shown clippings of violence in Assam and told a group of northeast youths that they would face a similar fate if they continued to stay in Bangalore beyond August 20.

[Singha]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bulk-of-ne-r ... 2-132.html

New Delhi: As over 30,000 panic-stricken Indians from the Northeast fled Bangalore after reports of attacks on some of them, Home Secretary RK Singh said that most of the rumours that let to the exodus came from Pakistan.
The Home Secretary further said that the images of an incident which happened in Myanmar three and a half month back were circulated in Bangalore from across the border to incite people.
Singh said that the issue will be taken up with the Ministry External Affairs. "We have set up two units to monitor all the websites. 34 websites have been identified so far," Singh added.
Meanwhile, the panic among Indians from Northeast seems to have subsided as no trains for Guwahati have been deployed so far and the sale of tickets has also drastically come down.
Lesser crowds were also seen in the Guwahati-bound trains from Mumbai and Bangalore on Saturday. Officials in Mumbai said there were a few empty seats in the Guwahati Express. Some passengers from Mumbai said panic was not the reason for their travel.
There were similar scenes at the Bangalore railway station that saw lesser crowds on Saturday.
However, 30,000 Indians from the Northeast have left Bangalore in the past four days after rumours of retaliatory attacks after Assam violence.
Karnataka's Minister of State for Railway KH Muniyappa said, " 30,000 people have left so far, eight special trains have left since Wednesday. We'll arrange for special trains if they want to come back.
The Karntaka government is keeping a close watch on the law and order situation in the state. Five companies of paramilitary force and the state police conducted flag march in areas where North East Indians are in majority - Austin Town, Audugodi and Koramangala.
Eight special trains have left Bangalore since August 15. A special train from Hyderabad has also reached Guwahati, more trains are expected on Saturday.
Helpline numbers have been set up by the Manipur government at the Guwahati station: 9435118534, 9435554909, 9436017654, 940145150. Helplines have also been set up for students and people from Arunachal Pradesh: 9864016193, 9435114076, 9854491360.
Meanwhile, Assam ministers were in Bangalore and Hyderabad assuring the North East Indians to not act on rumours. Earlier, night patrols were carried out across several areas in Bangalore, where there is a strong presence of the Northeast Indians.
Six people were arrested on Friday for spreading rumours and false SMSes. In fact, two ministers from Assam visited the Bangalore railway station, asking people to not panic and flee.
Meanwhile, the Centre has also issued directions to all Internet service providers to disable any hateful content targetting the Northeast Indians. Bulk SMSes and MMSes have also been banned for 15 days to contain panic.

[Anindya]

Home Secy R K Singh has just gone on TV all channels that bulk of SMS and MMS were being sent from (surprise) Pakistan and that 34 websites were also found uploading doctored images of things ranging from people dead in cyclones to tibet earthquakes.

game is up. the other thing is to find out if the local ghazis did a co-ordination with their pak handlers or just jumped on the opportunity to be a rageboy.

Based on the DNA article and the TOI report above, at least three of the incidents were caused by local ghazis - two public beatings and one Koramangala trio sending out SMSs. In two of these, the peaceful boys responsible, have been caught and implicated.

[Singha]

for some reason even a few non-peaceful joined with the ghazis, perhaps feeling to better their employment prospects in the void. eg- in broad daylight around noon yesterday it was reported in shantinagar big bazaar (heart of town a stone's throw from lalbagh), 3 manipuri men were attacked by two people - one "vinod" and one abrar khan or something...both of whom were employees of big bazaar itself! their photos were in TOI today after police nabbed the scum.

[sum]

for some reason even a few non-peaceful joined with the ghazis, perhaps feeling to better their employment prospects in the void. eg- in broad daylight around noon yesterday it was reported in shantinagar big bazaar (heart of town a stone's throw from lalbagh), 3 manipuri men were attacked by two people - one "vinod" and one abrar khan or something...both of whom were employees of big bazaar itself! their photos were in TOI today after police nabbed the scum.

^^ The Hindu was very happy to report that other religions were involved in the attack:

It was the second attack, though, that had the police confounded as those arrested belonged not just to the Muslim community but included a Christian as well as a Hindu man.

This is the first time the paper mentioned the M word and obviously it was only to do a == else the wordings would have been "a community" or "miscreant" etc

[Singha]

will the local ghazis be treated as 'misguided youth' and sent home after a 'stern warning' or better yet 'counselling' I wonder?

the only counselling they urgently need is the close attention of a 5 foot long danda.

[member_20317]

No problem. Lets then lynch all 3 equally. Very secular solution.

[shyamd]

NE exodus- the Pakistan hand!

Posted on August 18, 2012 | Leave a comment

It was a perfect ploy which worked very well and now India has confirmed that a majority of the messages which led to a huge exodus of the North Eastern people from South Indian states were generated out of Pakistan. A while agoN Union Home Secretary, R K Singh confirmed that a messages and doctored images of the Assam violence emerged out of Pakistan which led to the panic.
Sources in the Intelligence Bureau who have been investigating the matter say that while the panic began due to incidents within the country, fuel was added to the fire by some groups in Pakistan. This is not a new ploy and it has been seen in the aftermath of the Babri Masjid and Godhra issue as well.
During the investigation, it was found that doctored images of North Eastern people being subject to atrocity was used. This created a scare which forced them to flee. it was also found that such pictures were circulated on some websites and blogs by some Pakistanis. This led the people to believe that such incidents were in fact taking place while in reality there were none.
The other part of the ploy was to send out messages warning people of attacks. These people managed to create a big scare through these messages. Moreoever it was also found that some of the messages were aimed at inciting communal tensions with the hope that some Muslims would actually carry out an attack thus leading to panic and destability.
The Home Secretary said that pictures of devstation that had taken place during the cyclone were used. These pictures were morphed and people made to believe this was part of the retaliation. The technical team working on the issue found that these pictures emerged from Pakistan. They also found that the messages that were being circulated also emerged from Pakistan.
Based on these messages, some blogs and websites bit the bait. To make matters worse some activists took print outs in 1000s and circulated it among the people.
IB officials tell rediff.com that the problem in Assam which was due to land issues got a communal colour to it. Pakistan used this to their advantage. Using some of the pro Bangladeshi groups to retaliate would have been too obvious and hence this ploy was used.
Some persons watching the incidents in Assam decided to begin a hate campaign and what originally started off on a small scale turned out to be a major operation. The agencies in India have not pin pointed to any terror group as of now. They have a strong cyber capability and it is one of the many layers which caused the panic.
It was also found that some leaders in Assam supporting the cause of the Bangladeshis were also contacted through such messages. They too spread around the messages. These people and groups such as the MULTA were looking to retaliate and groups in Pakistan were trying to help them.
For these Pakistani groups the panic that they managed to cause was a victory by itself. They have managed to disrupt the harmony among the people in the North East. The industrial sector in Karanataka, Chennai and Hyderabad has already taken a beating with nearly 30000 security guards from these cities staying away from work. Many companies too have taken the brunt due to lack of workers. It is nothing bu economic terrorism, agencies point out. The police feel that this incriminating proof of a Pakistani hand should be able to now convince the people of North East that these were just rumours and they can return safely to those cities which provided them livelihood.

[lakshmikanth]

wonder if the missed calls from $hitland had anything to do with it

[sum]

^^ My question is that irrespective of whether TSP or panda did this, how are the majority supposed to look at the sheer thuggery on display by a community just based on few pics?

Is it to say that all this was Ok if the images werent doctored and Buddhists in Myanmar were actually slaughtering Muslims? Can Hindus then catch hold of the nearest muslim they find in case a Muslim kills some Hindus in Arab lands or TSP?

[JwalaMukhi]

Now pakis hand been stated, is that going to be an excuse for inaction on the domestic front?

[Hiten]

Home Sec R.K Singh's address to the press

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwRpQ3erFhM

[JwalaMukhi]

Ah the media. The loyal sepoys of the Nehru dynasty rule are now cleared to manage the show. Press will have lot of articles about how paki hand was found. BTW if not for those red-handed pictures of the pure desecrating Amar Jawan and Mahavir statues, there would not even have been token acknowledgment and action against the perpetrators.

Move on, nothing to see here. Everything is under control and the loyal sepoys of Nehru dynasty rule are here to help you.