Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2012

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The data below indicates a trend - what's the reason?

Significant increase in Pakistani firing across LOC - what's the reason?
Heavy firing exchanges erupted along the International border after Pakistan again violated the ceasefire by targeting Indian posts to push in a group of militants in Akhnoor sector of Jammu district, where one intruder was killed. This is the fourteenth time that Pakistan has violated the ceasefire along the international border (IB) and Line of Control [ Images ] (LoC) in the last fortnight. Pakistan has violated the ceasefire 37 times this year....There were 51 cases of ceasefire violation in 2011, 44 cases in 2010 and 28 in 2009.

Pakistani Rangers fired on Indian posts of Mala Bela, Garkhal, Sidra camp and Naka Number-10 along IB in Akhnoor sector of Jammu district around 2230 hours on Sunday night, officials said. The firing was aimed to facilitate a group of militants into Indian territory.

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Pakistan troops also fired on the forward posts in Krishnagati belt along LoC in Poonch sector violating ceasefire late on Sunday night, they said, adding Army troops replied back and firing stopped after one hour....

On August 17, there was heavy cross-border small arms firing on India [ Images ] posts along IB in Abdullian and Korotona Border Out Posts (BoPS) from Pakistan in R S Pura sub-sector in which BSF jawan Chander Rai was killed. There were two firing incidents and ceasefire violations by Pakistan in Pansar Boder Out Post (BOP) along IB in Samba sector and Krishnagati forward belt along LoC barely on August 15.

On August 13, Pakistani troops opened fire on Indian posts along the Indo-Pak border in Arnia sector of Jammu district.

Pakistan troops had fired on several Indian posts along Indo-Pak border in Krishnagati sub-sector of Poonch district on August 8.

On August 7, India has lodged a strong protest with Pakistan over ceasefire violations along the Line of Control and the International Border in the state in which two Jawans were injured.

On August 6, Pakistan troops had fired at Indian posts with rockets and using small arms fire to target BSF's Border outpost (BOP)of Pansar along IB in Hiranagar sector of Kathua district resulting in injuries to two BSF jawans. On the same day, Pakistan troops had opened indiscriminate fire on the forward posts along the LoC in Poonch sector and it continued intermittently for few hours as Army troops also replied.

On August 5, Pakistan Rangers fired on Indian BOPs in Kote Kuba area along IB in R S Pura sector in Jammu district. The firings and ceasefire violations by Pakistan came close on the heels of detection of 400-meter long tunnel in Jammu and Kashmir's [ Images ] Samba sector on July 28 and subsequent lodging of strong protest over the issue on July 31.
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NOW WRITER VS NAIPAUL'S WIFE DISCOVERS LONDONISTAN, FINALLY
Pakistan had drained my resolve, and I was tired of fighting a losing battle . To me, England, for all its ills, was the promised land. Instead , I have found the horror I fled has followed me here. It is all around, eroding the very core of everything Britain believes in.
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^^ Because MMS gave an assurance to Pakis that he would not react to small incidents (read "death of few hundred Indians in the hands of Pali terrorists) and will respond only thru dossiers.

Pakis realized this threshold and are trickling terrorists.
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joygoswami wrote:NOW WRITER VS NAIPAUL'S WIFE DISCOVERS LONDONISTAN, FINALLY

^^^ From the same article
Cases of honour killings and forced marriages are reported from communities with origins in the Indian subcontinent .
TOIlet is a great equalizer :cry:
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Anindya wrote:The data below indicates a trend - what's the reason?

Significant increase in Pakistani firing across LOC - what's the reason?
Nothing mysterious. Kiyani the leader of shitland has said that they are going to restart action in Waziristan. They cannot do it. They need to provoke conflict with India to avoid taking action in the west, and they have 2000 jobless but trained terrorists waiting to cross the LoC. So they are starting firing again, to give cover fire for infiltrators.

Pakistan, and the Pakistan army are still alive. The sponsors are still helping to keep them alive and the same things are happening. Firing on the border has been going on for 6 months at least now and I am not sure why this topic is suddenly coming up as if some new mysterious action is taking place. This Paki thread has become a sanitized BENIS where benis language is not used but the content is the same - because most of the news is benis material in the absence of terrorism. Analyses of Pakistan have ended because there is no further analysis to be done. There is nothing new to be said about Pakistan. There are no more newbies to learn about Pakistan. Everyone knows the facts and the only discussions that occur are when people who know the facts forget and ask a question and are pointed to previously done analyses and articles as a reminder. Or someone cheers a few Paki deaths and others curse the usual culprits, MMS, Arundhati Roy, Bhadrakumar etc.

If there is no terrorism from Pakistan, that pigsty will drop out of our radar. Every successful terrorist act from Pakistan gives a 9 to 12 month lease of life to this thread as we rehash all the arguments we have already made in the past. In the absence of terrorism and military action, Pakistan's existence would make no difference at all to most Indians. It would receive as much attention as our other neighbours, or Thailand or the Philippines.
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What has been known here on BRF for a long time, some Pakis are now grudgingly accepting the truth. That there is a class of people called "liberals" in Pakistan is nothing but a myth. Age old BRF wisdom - "scratch the surface and you get a jihadi".

http://dawn.com/2012/08/18/sectarian-di ... ak-for-us/
“In individuals, insanity is rare; in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule.”

-Friedrich Nietzsche.

Mr Victorious Sword or Zafar Shamsheer is a conservative, a Muslim conservative. He believes the entire world is busy conspiring against the Muslims.

The 9/11 never happened. And even if it did, it was a big Jewish conspiracy against Muslims. “Why were all Jewish employees in those buildings on leave that day?” he asks. Although he has seen pictures of Jewish people killed in the terrorist attacks, he refuses to believe them.

He also believes that Osama bin Laden was not killed in Pakistan. The US operation was a fake because OBL had already died in 2002.

All those Taliban who attack mosques, Muslim worshippers, Pakistani troops and military installations are not really Taliban. They are Indian and American infiltrators.

Shias are not Muslims, yes, Mr. Sword agrees with that. But he refuses to believe that Sunni militants are killing Shias. “Those who do such things are also Indian and American agents,” he claims.

He believes the Arab Spring is a conspiracy to weaken Muslims. And those fighting Syrian government troops are not Syrian Muslims, they are non-Muslim foreigners.

There is no limit to Mr. Sword’s fantasies. He has a fertile brain and can churn out a hundred conspiracy theories a day. His theories often contradict each other but that does not bother him. Nothing does.

Who is Mr. Sword? Is he real? Yes, there is one particular Mr. Sword that I know but there are many others who fit this description too. They all live in their small, make-believe worlds and refuse to look outside.

I did a brief Google search with words ‘Shia kafir’ and it showed me 141,000 results in 0.23 seconds. Most of these posts were by Sunni extremists but there were some by Shias too, calling Sunnis kafir.

So, it is not just Mr. Sword who is diseased. We all are. This jinni is sitting inside all of us and whenever it gets a chance, it comes out with full ferociousness, ready to destroy anyone and anything that it does not like.

Trying engaging a Muslim, liberal or religious, on a subject he disagrees with and see how he reacts. Note how ferocious he becomes, how cruel, how offensive.

Educated liberals do not call each other kafirs, true. But see how they change when using a sectarian or ethnic card to promote their interests. A person blocking a job they covet is signalled out as a Shia, Ahmadi, Christian or whatever sect or faith he or she may belong to.

Where the religious card does not work, ethnic differences do and are used blatantly, without feeling any shame. Racism is bad if the Whites use it against us, but not if Punjabis, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Baloch and Mohajirs use it against each other.

At annual meetings of the Islamic Society of North America, I twice tried discussing the racial discrimination that South and Southeast Asian workers face in the Gulf. I did not succeed.

But let us get back to Mr Sword. We went to the same school, in Islamabad. He somehow passed the matriculation and intermediate examinations, both in third divisions, learned typing and joined a government office in Islamabad. He still lives in a poor neighbourhood in Rawalpindi.

For most liberals, he is a failure, a low-life semi-mullah who is neither here nor there. They are wrong. He is the key link between the extremists sitting on the mountains and the people who quietly slip in a hundred-rupee note into the donation box after Friday prayers in the name of jihad. He encourages them to do so.

People like Mr Sword are also important because, unlike liberals, they retain the ability to speak, write, compose poems and make speeches in their own languages.

The Mr Sword that I know speaks chaste Punjabi and fluent Urdu. He quotes versus from the Holy Quran and couplets from Sufi poetry in his speeches. Most liberals cannot. So when he speaks, he has an impact. The English-mixed, Urdu, Punjabi or Sindhi the liberals speak, does not have an impact.

This Mr Sword is also a poet. He can write melodious poems, in Urdu and Punjabi, glorifying Islam and Muslims. So he is popular.

During the Afghan war, Mr Sword joined a religious leader as his personal bard. He would travel from town to town, reciting his poems that also included at least one poem about this scholar.

Those were the days when the free world – mainly Americans, Pakistanis and Saudis – was busy fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. They were recruiting jihadis from all over the world, particularly from Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Mr Sword came in handy. His poems encouraged teenagers to join the Afghan jihad. Mr Sword was rewarded for his efforts with a small piece of land in the neighbourhood where he lives now. With support from his “maulana saheb,” he built a small house there and is happy with that. He does not want more.

So he did not migrate to Europe or America, like most liberals do. Some like him do go to the Middle East as unskilled labour and return home with a new zeal for promoting their beliefs. For instance, some of these Dubai-returned Mr Swords are more eager than the local ones in branding others as kafirs.

But this is not just Mr Sword’s story. This is my story too. And it starts at a news conference in Rawalpindi, addressed by a scholar, now dead, who often claimed that “every Moharram, I cause the death of two or three Shias.”

The maulana, as expected, demanded new restrictions on religious minorities or “their men will be enslaved and women distributed among the believers.”

Mr Sword got up and chanted slogans, for at least five minutes, backing the maulana’s demand. A small crowd of maulana’s supporters joined him.

I disagreed. But I was quiet, even when a journalist was locked in a room for criticising the maulana. Other liberal journalists were also silent. We did not have the courage to challenge the maulana.

We went back to our newspapers and wrote little stories, in English, criticising the maulana. Our stories did not have much of an impact.

There was another maulana, who lived in Islamabad and was equally anti-Shia. Mr Sword and I met again at this maulana’s meeting where he made a fiery speech, cursing Shias, Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and other minorities.

Again, the crowd got up and chanted slogans and again Mr Sword led the chanting. And once again, we the so-called liberals were silent.

Is it just fear that keeps us mum? Not really. A little prodding will unveil the ugly faces of our fake liberalism.

“It is true that the state has no business calling anybody a kafir but Ahmadis are not really Muslim, are they?” you may hear a liberal saying if you engage him in a debate over this issue.

“Shias are not really kafir but they are not exactly Muslims, are they?” another will ask. Perhaps we all believe in what Mr Sword does but hide our feelings under the cloak of liberalism. Perhaps, we are genuinely secular but hesitate to express our views publicly.

Mr Sword never hesitates. He is sharp, like a sword, and always to the point. So he is very effective. All his poems, all his speeches are right on the target.

Someone like Mr Sword came to Washington three years ago and stunned a think-tank audience. “There can never be peace between the Islamic and Western worlds,” he said. “I know you have the power to nuke us now. So do it. When we get a chance, we will do it too.”

Those who were there still remember him. And this is the strategy that people like Mr Sword use, say outrageous things that cause people to notice you and then come back later to pick on those who can be won over.

Where do they get their inspiration from? From Friday sermons that are repeated every week in millions of mosques across the world. True, not all mosques allow such sermons but many do.

And this provides an effective forum for people like Mr Sword to draw their inspiration from and to influence unsuspecting worshippers, who come for saying their prayers but return home with seeds of hatred in their minds.

Liberals have no such platform. They do not have an effective organisation. At best, they can print their views in elite newspapers and magazines that only the liberals read.

So what they say or write does not hurt Mr Sword. Nothing does. The liberals are too weak to challenge him.

Perhaps, they do not even want to challenge Mr Sword. How many times have we seen a liberal Sunni interrupting an imam when he calls Shias kafir? Perhaps never.

When we do not try to stop them from making such outrageous claims, are we not condoning their views? We are.

Perhaps, we also believe in this Muslim-kafir business but are too shy to admit. So we are happy to let Mr Sword speak for us. Does Mr Sword speak for most of us?

The author is a correspondent for Dawn, based in Washington, DC
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The above article is gem and a moment of introspection by the Paki, but still our seculars wbelive most Pakis and Illegal BD immigrants are the best thing that has happenned in thsi nation and even write plays encouraging thier stands.
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Firing on the border has been going on for 6 months at least now and I am not sure why this topic is suddenly coming up as if some new mysterious action is taking place.
I was trying to find the article where I saw it - but could not. In any case, what I was trying to get to, was the nature of these violations in the last month have changed - heavy weapons being used, multiple locations on the same night, etc.

Your first line about attacking Waziristan is a plausible explanation - but, this may be an issue to look out for, over the next few weeks/months.
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The sad part is that based on Mohammadden religious law that is followed in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan this triple murderer will likely get away with paying blood money:

'Honor' murderer boasts of triple killing
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Jhujar wrote:http://dawn.com/2012/08/18/ajmer-shrine ... y-zardari/

Ajmer shrine receives one million Nakli dollars pledged by Zardari
NEW DELHI: Pakistan’s High Commissioner Salman Bashir, on behalf of President Asif Ali Zardari, the Government and people of Pakistan, on Friday presented a cheque of one million dollars as donation for ‘Dargah’ Ajmer Sharif.The donation was announced by President Zardari during his visit to Dargah Khawaja Moinuddin Chishty at Ajmer in April this year.The donation will be utilized for the development and welfare projects, upkeep and maintenance of the shrine and provision of services for the pilgrims by duly established committees and ‘Anjumans’Besides members of the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi, the collector Ajmer and senior officials of Ajmer Administration attended the presentation ceremony.
There apparently was a bit of a squabble between various Mohammadden groups claiming to be in control of the Ajmer Dargah as to who would get a share of the money put out by President Zardari of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Ugly face of shrine bodies on show again
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TTP Threatens PA
The Pakistani Taliban on Monday warned the country’s military it had set up a “suicide bombers squad” to hit troops if an offensive is launched in a restive tribal area bordering Afghanistan.

In an email message sent to media, Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, an umbrella militant group, said it had received “an exclusive intelligence report” about the offensive in North Waziristan from its “sources” in army headquarters.

TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan outlined details about the regiments and units and the possible commander for the campaign, said to be launched on August 26 for one month.

“TTP has also prepared itself for resistance, we have set up a suicide bombers squad to welcome (the) army. We will defeat our enemy, whom is defending secular, unIslamic system of Pakistan by punching them back hard InshaAllah (God willing),” Ehsan said.

Military officials were not immediately available to comment on the claim.
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^^^^
Questions that come to mind:

Is this being orchestrated by naPaks so that:
i) They can ask for more money from their benefactors?
ii)Wriggle out citing this threat and either do nothing or drag their feet.
iii) Has the increase in cross border firing, at the LoC, been orchestrated to support ii) above?

Is there an oracle around? :)
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^rajanb, i, ii & iii are very likely and one should be surprised if not so. On your question of whether this is being orchestrated, I do not think so. I used to believe till some years back that at the very top, there was collusion between the PA Generals and the TTP shura. I suspected that the PA was sending its soldiers as cannon fodder to the TTP to build a facade that they were also on the same page as their Masters in fighting terror. The various peace agreements that Musharraf signed with the TTP as soon as he would launch an operation against the TTP, made everything look suspicious. One should not be faulted for concluding that Musharraf was implementing the usual perfidious 'hunting with the hounds and running with the hares' Pakistani policy. PM Gilani openly admitted to that after he took over power. Therefore, the TTP/PA collusion might well have been the case at that time even as some factions of the Punjabi Taliban were gunning for Musharraf and came close to eliminating him. However, I am not anymore one of those who subscribe to the view that somehow the TTP & PA are doing a tango and the current situation is all drama. There have been far too many murderous attacks by the TTP on the PA for this to be faked.

However, it is the PA that is caught in the nutcracker. It is now clear that the Haqqani Shura and the TTP Shura are two sides of the same coin. They are enacting the Good Cop/Bad Cop play. Both report to the Quetta Shura and are in sync among themselves at the deepest level. The PA's position is that of somebody who mounted the tiger and is unable to unmount. The blind and furious obsession with India would not let the PA unmount the Haqqani tiger. The Haqqanis might have been nationalist warlords in the 80s (and therfore compliant to PA) but today they have morphed into Islamist jihadis identifying themselves with the worldview of Al Qaeda. The grand plan is to get both Afghanistan and Pakistan, if not simultaneously, at least not much thereafter getting one of them. It is my belief, expectation and hope that the PA are in for their greatest shock after the Taliban resume power in Afghanistan. Already, TTP have been eliminating the Taliban creators and supporters one after another individually. Their pinnacle of glory would be when they unite together and declare jihad against a shocked PA. Right now, it is only the TTP which has declared so. The kinds of attacks on GHQ, ISI, PNS Kamran, Kamra etc. prove that the Wahhabi/Deobandi/Salafi/Takfiri/Kharraji organizations have penetrated the armed forces significantly. I hope that these sects retain their unity for quite sometime until the PA is vanquished before falling apart due to internal dissensions.
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^^^ SS,
Well, the PA mounted the East Bengal Tiger in 1970 and it seemed as if they were taming it. We unceremoniously dismounted them in 1971.
But let me discard the rather pleasing vision of the PA squirming in their Fruit of the loom (chaddis) while the tiger snarls and bucks.

I agree that the situation is such, whether orchestrated or not. If not orchestrated, and what i), ii) & iii) in the above post seems to represent the current situation is not good for us and the health of our neighbourhood.

With the USA keen to get out pronto and some may argue not so pronto, it doesn't bode well for us at all. We are in a situation, as discussed on many posts, that we have no option but to be benign.

My take on it is we should be seen to be benign, but everytime we have a shot across the border, we should respond with a vehemence of a roar. Just to make it clear to the PA that thier eastern borders are a rock and the shura a hard place. Our roar, however, should be calibrated and clever. Our covert option be judiciously exercised. The naPaks claim the existence of our covert operations anyway. And we know they are exercising theirs with seeming impunity.

Going beyond this, the PA would be under pressure. To run with the hares and hunt with the hounds again would be again an option. And that is when they will move closer to a situation when the cowboys of the west will reconsider bombing the PA back to the stone age. Or at worse, labeling and treating it as a pariah.

That would mean we should be prepared to take an active part in it, maybe a leading part, because this sore of partition has festered too long. Never have they left us alone. The dreams of their flag over Dilli, should once and for all, be erased from their psyche, like Hitler was from Europe.

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Death toll of Pakistan's Quetta blast rises to 3
ISLAMABAD, Aug. 21 (Xinhua) -- The death toll of a blast that rocked Pakistan's southwest Quetta city Tuesday morning has risen to three, said local media.

Local Urdu TV channel Geo said that one was killed on the spot and another two died later at hospital.

The blast also wounded 13 others including five women and four kids.

At least three vehicles including a yellow cab and two richshaws were destroyed in the blast, said the report.

The blast took place at about 10:50 a.m. local time when a roadside planted bomb went off shortly after a convoy of Frontier Corps (FC), a paramilitary force in Pakistan, passed the blast site on the Sariab road of the city.

The target was the FC vehicle, but the bomb missed the target and hit other vehicles and passersby on the road, said police.

No security personnel were hurt in the blast and all the victims were civilians, said police.

No group has claimed responsibility for the blast.

Tuesday's blast in Quetta is the first of its kind reported in Pakistan during the three-day Eid holiday that started on Monday after one-month-long Ramadan, a holy month for all Muslims across the world, during which drinking, eating and sex are strictly prohibited from sunrise to sunset
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Pakistan barber’s eyes pulled out for alleged affair
Karachi: The eyes of a barber were pulled out in a horrific incident in the Punjab province. The culprits also cut off the man’s tongue and lips for allegedly having an affair with a girl.

A tailor was also tortured on Tuesday in yet another incident when the accused shaved half of his head, eyebrows and moustache over a delay in sewing their clothes on the eve of Eid. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: {now that is peaceful celebration ju kaffirs}

Police sources said that in Deepal Pur town of district Okara in central Punjab the barber, Mohammad Yousuf, was summoned by the father of the girl with whom Yousuf was having an affair. When he arrived, the father tortured Yousuf along with his other relatives and took out both his eyeballs. The vengeance did not stop here as the relatives also cut off his tongue and lips.

The police are cracking down to arrest the accused who are at large. In a n special directive, the chief minister of the province has ordered the police chief for the earliest arrest of the accused. He also ordered moving Yousuf to a government hospital in Lahore where his treatment would be done at government expense
In Multan district, a tailor was tortured by influential local men for delayed delivery of clothes for Eid. Nawaz Irfan, the tailor, was forced to ride a donkey after his face was blackened, a sign of disgrace in this region, by Mohammad Khan, a local influential man.

Irfan told the media that he delivered some of the clothes before Eid and some were left undone because of too much work and load-shedding. He called Khan for the payment after the Eid prayers and he was summoned to his s home. When Irfan arrived, Khan, along with five accomplices, attacked him and latershaved off half his head, eyebrows and moustache.

The local police said that they were investigating the matter and would proceed further in accordance with the law.

I nanother similar incident, the hair of a female stage dancer was cut off by a director for allegedly refusing to work with him. Sahiba Multani, the dancer, alleged that she was tortured and disgraced by Makki Qureshi. However, the police said the incident has not been reported to them so far.
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http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20120821/main1.htm

India to share Net proof with Pak
Much of offensive content leading to N-E exodus came from Pakistan; 270 sites blocked
Ajay Banerjee/TNS

New Delhi, August 20
India on Monday said it would share with Pakistan evidence on the involvement of elements on its soil to whip up communal sentiments, even as a technical probe found that many doctored images were uploaded on social media networking sites in the neighbouring country.

Coming down on offensive morphed images and videos posted on websites, blogs and social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter, the Union Ministry of Home Affairs today ordered blocking of over 270 such sites and blogs, most of them hosted from Pakistan. Already, access to 130-odd such sites has been blocked and the rest will be done by tonight, officials said.

Earlier in the day, Pakistan had rejected as "baseless and unfounded" India's assertion on the involvement of elements there in posting morphed images on the Internet in a bid to fan communal tensions and asked New Delhi to provide evidence in this regard.

India has also shared information with the US regarding the offensive material, since a large number of social networking websites are headquartered in the US and their parent web-servers are located there.

New Delhi and Washington have an existing Memorandum of Understanding on cooperation between the Computer Emergency Response Team (CERT) of the Indian and US, which share real-time information sharing on matters of homeland security. The cooperation is part of the strategic dialogue initiated three years ago.

Some 38 per cent of offensive content in circulation had originated from Pakistan and was created by elements there. A hardline group is believed to be responsible for the uploads that fanned communal disharmony in India. The content and photos are identical and have been uploaded from Internet Protocol (IP) addresses that have a history of previously having posted Internet content to each other, sources said.

Photos of victims of a cyclone in Myanmar and an earthquake in Tibet have been presented as “atrocities” committed on Muslims by ‘Cheenis’ (a derogatory slang used to describe people with Mongoloid facial features). This was aimed at whipping up a communal frenzy against people of North-East origin living in cosmopolitan cities such as Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune and Chennai.

Indians who forwarded this material or re-posted it on their websites, blogs and Facebook are being tracked down to check whether they were part of some cross-border design. All the guilty in India will be booked under relevant sections of the IPC, officials said.

Union Home Secretary RK Singh was circumspect when asked whether Pakistan-based extremist organisations were involved in creating and circulating the offensive photos.

“At present we cannot say who is behind it. To say or deny whether a particular extremist organisation was or wasn't (behind it) is difficult at this stage. However, some photographs have names and photographs of one or two (Pakistani) organisations," he said.

The government will take up the CERT findings at the international forum. This is the biggest instance of cyber warfare on India in recent times.

India will present the evidence to Pakistan, as locating an IP address is not very difficult. The neighbours are part of the same Regional Internet Registry (RIR), a governing body responsible for administration of Internet addresses in a specific geographic region. In this case, the Asia-Pacific Network Information Centre is based at Brisbane, Australia. Typically, an RIR has a mandate to control the allocation and distribution of IP addresses and domain registrations.
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Over 2,000 visiting Pakistani nationals overstaying in Nagpur
As many as 9,705 Pakistani nationals had obtained visa for visiting Nagpur from the authorities for 30, 45, 60 and 90 days. "About 2,546 Pakistan citizens came on visa for longer duration and 533 of them were provided with Indian citizenship," it said.

But about 2013 Pakistani nationals did not return to their country and were overstaying here, according to Deputy Commissioner of Police (Special Branch), which deals with such cases.

The National Right 2 Information Committee, a local NGO, had sought information under RTI on number of Pakistani nationals visiting Nagpur between 1980-1994 and 1995 onwards.

Police admitted they have no information on names and contact addresses of Pakistanis staying here till 1994. Also, police have informed this to Committee President Ejaz Khan and General Secretary Uteresh Wasnik. However, details from 1995 onwards were available.

The NGO has also sought information under RTI from Ministry of External Affairs and Home Ministry on number of Pakistanis visiting India since 1960.

The Ministry of External Affairs in a communication to Janardan Singh, First Secretary (Press and Information) High Commission of India, Islamabad (Pakistan) and Vumlunmang, Joint Secretary and Nodal Officer (RTI) in Ministry of Home Affairs, New Delhi has sought necessary information on Pakistanis visiting India since 1960.
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chetak wrote: As many as 9,705 Pakistani nationals had obtained visa for visiting Nagpur from the authorities for 30, 45, 60 and 90 days. "About 2,546 Pakistan citizens came on visa for longer duration and 533 of them were provided with Indian citizenship," it said.
:eek: We have made it too easy for pakis to get Indian citizenship. This is going to come back to bite us in the musharraf.
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From WaPo news story:
In Pakistan, missed paydays are a persistent problem
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — It’s hard enough to get a decent job in Pakistan. But those who do are finding it increasingly difficult to get paid.

The country’s top court recently had to step in to order that three months’ back wages be paid to public-sector female medical staff, known here as “lady health workers.” The problem also extends to doctors: A group of newly recruited physicians, hired to replace striking doctors in Punjab province, say they have not received pay in six weeks.

...

The government-reported poverty rate was 23 percent in 2006 — the last major survey done — but that figure has been challenged and is likely double that, especially in rural parts of the country and the semiautonomous tribal areas.

Underemployment in urban areas is another problem: Educated people are settling for any job they can find, even if wages are low — and even if they might not get a paycheck for months.

Said the unpaid computer specialist, who has 18 years of experience in his field: “I still go to work because I have no other option.”
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From Reuters news story: (Posting in full)
In Pakistan, underground parties push the boundaries.
People dance to the beat of the house music at Centrifuge, a Pakistani underground rave party at a farmhouse on the outskirts of Pakistan's capital, Islamabad early July 15, 2012.
Credit: Reuters/Stringer

By Anam Zehra

ISLAMABAD | Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:07pm IST

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Women in short skirts and men with gelled hair bump and grind on a dance floor as a disc jockey pumps up the volume. The air is thick with illicit smoke and shots of hard liquor are being passed around. Couples cuddle and kiss in a lounge.

This is not Saturday night at a club in New York, London or Paris. It is the secret side of Pakistan, a Muslim nation often described in the West as a land of bearded, Islamic hardmen and repressed, veiled women.

Pakistan was created out of Muslim-majority areas in colonial India 65 years ago, and for decades portrayed itself as a progressive Islamic nation. Starting in the 1980s, however, it has been drifting towards a more conservative interpretation of Islam that has reshaped the political landscape, fuelled militancy and cowed champions of tolerance into silence.

But the country remains home to a large wealthy and Westernised elite that, in private, lives very differently.

Every weekend, fashion designers, photographers, medical students and businessmen gather at dozens of parties in Islamabad, Karachi and Lahore to push social boundaries in discreet surroundings that would horrify, and enrage, advocates of the stricter brand of Islam.

"This is just epic," said Numair Shahzada, bobbing his head to the beat at a party in a farmhouse outside Islamabad as fitness instructors moonlighting as bouncers looked on. "The light and smoke show is phenomenal."

Young men and women mix freely, dancing, talking or drinking. Some curl up together in quiet areas.

Although alcohol is prohibited in the country, many have brought their own liquor. Whisky is carried in paper bags and vodka is disguised in water bottles arranged along the dance floor.

The party-goers form only a tiny minority of the country's 180 million people, but overall, Pakistan is not repressive. Women can drive, are enrolled in universities and have played prominent roles in politics. Unmarried men and women can interact without risking the wrath of religious police.

People from its most populous province, Punjab, are renowned for their exuberance.

But a conservative form of Islam is chipping away at the tolerance.

A few hours' drive from Islamabad's party circuit, parts of remote tribal regions have fallen under the sway of hardline Taliban militants, who dream of toppling the U.S.-backed government and creating a society where revellers would face flogging, or worse.

"Men and women who dance together are damned by God. Whenever we see such displays of vulgarity we will definitely make them a target," said a senior Taliban commander.

News reports have said a tribal council in a village near the Afghanistan border ordered four women killed earlier this year for clapping and singing as men danced at a wedding. The Supreme Court has ordered an investigation, but there have been no further details.

CREEPING CONSERVATISM

While the vast majority of Pakistanis abhor the Taliban's violence, there are many who share their belief that Islam should be Pakistan's guiding force. Religious parties, which do poorly at the polls but exert considerable sway over public debate, believe Islam should govern all spheres of life.

"It's so messed up," said Myra, a 23-year-old Pakistani who has dyed her hair reddish-brown.

"You see the servants and the drivers at the parties watching you and you wonder what kind of a person they think you are."

To avoid prying eyes, the kind of alcohol-fuelled blow-outs enjoyed by Myra and her friends are held in lonely farm-houses in the outskirts of Islamabad and other cities, or in affluent neighbourhoods behind high walls. Organisers charge on average a $60 entry fee, an amount most Pakistanis earn in a month.


Rafia, petite with long, black hair and wearing tight jeans and a low-cut black blouse, is a regular on the party scene.

She frowns on women who carry secret cell phones unmonitored by their parents and wear revealing outfits under conservative dress that come off before getting on the dance floor.

"You can either be God-fearing or you can party," she said, taking a drag on a marijuana joint at a recent rave.

"I don't pray regularly and I usually stick to my fast. But at the end of the day, I don't say I am a very religious person."

Not everyone agrees.

Bina Sultan, 40, an attractive fashion designer, showcases nude paintings and topless male models in shows. She also wears a silver pendant engraved with a verse from the Koran.

"People think I am shameless but I am actually very religious," she said at her studio, peppering her sentences with "jaani", Urdu for darling, while chain smoking.

"My faith is very strong. But everything I do is between my God and me."

LONELY LIBERALS

Conservatism began sweeping through Pakistan during the military dictatorship of General Mohammad Zia ul-Haq in the 1980s under a drive to Islamize the state.

Zia's policies are widely blamed for a creeping culture of intolerance that has further isolated liberals.

In an incident that traumatised the elite, the governor of Punjab province, Salman Taseer, was assassinated by his own bodyguard last year for opposing harsh anti-blasphemy laws.

The reaction was almost more shocking to liberals than the murder itself. Clerics organised huge rallies to praise the killer. Even lawyers, once at the vanguard of Pakistan's democracy movement, showered him with rose petals.

In the growing climate of fear, the space for liberal voices is shrinking.

Pakistani rapper Adil Omar, who attends weekend parties, pokes fun of the Taliban and rising conservatism in his songs. But he never goes too far.

"A lot of people seem to be torn and seem to have an identity crisis," said Omar, who wears the traditional flowing shirt and baggy trousers. His elaborate forearm tattoo featuring a semi-naked woman and a unicorn has drawn fire on his Facebook page from some fans who see it as an offence to Islam.

"I am careful not to give any opinions regarding religion on the record," he said, adding: "I don't want some crazy person chopping off my head." (Editing by Michael Georgy and Raju Gopalakrishnan)
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Aditya_V wrote:The above article is gem and a moment of introspection by the Paki, but still our seculars wbelive most Pakis and Illegal BD immigrants are the best thing that has happenned in thsi nation and even write plays encouraging thier stands.
What is said in that article applies for every muslim in the world.

When push come to shove, unless they walk out of their faith, they will make same choices.
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Brad Goodman wrote:Pakistan barber’s eyes pulled out for alleged affair
Karachi: The eyes of a barber were pulled out in a horrific incident in the Punjab province. The culprits also cut off the man’s tongue and lips for allegedly having an affair with a girl.

A tailor was also tortured on Tuesday in yet another incident when the accused shaved half of his head, eyebrows and moustache over a delay in sewing their clothes on the eve of Eid. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: {now that is peaceful celebration ju kaffirs}

Police sources said that in Deepal Pur town of district Okara in central Punjab the barber, Mohammad Yousuf, was summoned by the father of the girl with whom Yousuf was having an affair. When he arrived, the father tortured Yousuf along with his other relatives and took out both his eyeballs. The vengeance did not stop here as the relatives also cut off his tongue and lips.

The police are cracking down to arrest the accused who are at large. In a n special directive, the chief minister of the province has ordered the police chief for the earliest arrest of the accused. He also ordered moving Yousuf to a government hospital in Lahore where his treatment would be done at government expense
In Multan district, a tailor was tortured by influential local men for delayed delivery of clothes for Eid. Nawaz Irfan, the tailor, was forced to ride a donkey after his face was blackened, a sign of disgrace in this region, by Mohammad Khan, a local influential man.

Irfan told the media that he delivered some of the clothes before Eid and some were left undone because of too much work and load-shedding. He called Khan for the payment after the Eid prayers and he was summoned to his s home. When Irfan arrived, Khan, along with five accomplices, attacked him and latershaved off half his head, eyebrows and moustache.

The local police said that they were investigating the matter and would proceed further in accordance with the law.

I nanother similar incident, the hair of a female stage dancer was cut off by a director for allegedly refusing to work with him. Sahiba Multani, the dancer, alleged that she was tortured and disgraced by Makki Qureshi. However, the police said the incident has not been reported to them so far.
In the first case the victim is a Mohammad, in the second case the perpetrator is a Mohammad. It happened on the holy Mohammaden day of Eid, preached by the first Mohammad.

News headline would be very poetic if the victim and perpetrator had the same first name 'Mohammad this killed a Mohammad that' of simply 'Mohammad killed Mohammad' :D
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http://news.yahoo.com/development-decay ... 30276.html
Development, decay in Indian PM's Pakistan village
Everybody wants to see him and say thank you. We also want him to come soon because we think the abandoned development will be completed for his visit and we will get staff in our schools and hospitals," Khan said.The mayor hopes that if Punjab chief minister Shahbaz Sharif, brother of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, attends village celebrations for Singh's 80th birthday in September, development work will resume.Hussein, whose late uncle Raja Mohammad Ali met Singh in New Delhi, is pushing full steam ahead with preparations to welcome home the "great son" of Gah."We are going to bring all the musicians, drum beaters and flute players here to perform at his arrival. We will dance and celebrate.
"We want him to establish an unbreakable friendship between India and Pakistan."
No matter Pakistan and India's bitter rivalry, most people in Gah are proud of Singh for going on to govern 1.2 billion people in the world's largest democracy."He is the son of our soil and we want him to become the hero of India-Pakistan friendship. We would like him to solve the Kashmir issue and I will talk to him about this when he comes here," Khan said.In Singh's old primary school, which unlike his home is still standing, his mark sheet has been put up on the wall, exhorting the next generation of children to take his lead, and go ahead and rule the world.

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From The News (posting in full):
India's Godrej to invest in Pakistan
August 21, 2012 - Updated 2045 PKT
From Web Edition

KARACHI: Indian conglomerate Godrej intends to make an investment in Pakistan, Geo News reported Tuesday.

According to an announcement by the Indian manufacturer, the investment will be made in Pakistan by the end of the current year.

The company's management has said that the total worth of Godrej group's business amounts to 3.30 billion dollars and in order to expand its business the group intended to invest in Pakistan and other countries.

The spokesmen of the company also praised the attempt to promote friendly ties under the Aman Ki Asha initiative.

They said Pakistan being the sixth largest country in terms of population provides a huge market for consumer products.
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Trailer for a movie based on OBL raid in Pakistan. Conveniently releasing around Dec 2012 for ombaba. But will again help in reminding joe the plumber of pak perfidy
This movie was shot in Chandigarh as per this wiki article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Dark_Thirty
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One of the flood gates on river Ravi at Madhopur head works in Pathankot is broken thus naPakistan is getting 65,000 cusecs of water daily. The idiot axion reports that they will repair it in one week., while river is full to the brim.
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Not sure if this has been posted earlier.

China's Increased Investment Upsets Some Pakistanis
With all its current troubles, Pakistan has not been attracting much foreign investment recently. In fact, China seems to be the only country that's prepared to pour money into Pakistan in a big way.

But a boost in Chinese investment has sparked resentment in southern Pakistan, where activists accuse China of trying to be a new colonial power. A bomb blast recently hit near the Chinese Consulate in Karachi — an ominous sign of the rising tensions.
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Well so much for being 10 years ahead of the curve.
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Brad Goodman wrote:Pakistan Railways on road to revival?.........
Apt headline. The following has been sourced from a recently issued communique from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

In a stunning, and entirely original, development that has vaulted Pakistan to the forefront of Mass Rapid Transit, we are pleased to inform you that all Pakistan Railways operations will now be conducted solely by road. To purchase a first class rail ticket from Islamabad to Karachi, please stand in line (rearguardingly)at the Islamabad Intercity Bus Terminal on any given weekday, Fridays at your own risk.
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Also, Pakistan's roads are on the track to revival.
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This is like the 4th drone strike in last 24 hours or so, Uncle Sam seems to be upping the ante in North Waziristan:

US drone strike kills five in North Waziristan
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nachiket wrote:
chetak wrote: As many as 9,705 Pakistani nationals had obtained visa for visiting Nagpur from the authorities for 30, 45, 60 and 90 days. "About 2,546 Pakistan citizens came on visa for longer duration and 533 of them were provided with Indian citizenship," it said.
We have made it too easy for pakis to get Indian citizenship. This is going to come back to bite us in the musharraf.
Nachiket, why do you find fault with the strategy ? Once we lure Pakistanis with the Indian citizenship bait, they will develop a stake in the security of India and stop terror attacks. Meanwhile, India will zip ahead and Pakistan will become irrelevant.
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SBajwa wrote:One of the flood gates on river Ravi at Madhopur head works in Pathankot is broken thus naPakistan is getting 65,000 cusecs of water daily. The idiot axion reports that they will repair it in one week., while river is full to the brim.
Near Lahore, many have built houses on the dried up Ravi bed.
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SSridhar wrote:Near Lahore, many have built houses on the dried up Ravi bed.
Smart thinking. Now they will be the proud owners of waterfront homes on floating islands. Unique, even for a paki.
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kish wrote: News headline would be very poetic if the victim and perpetrator had the same first name 'Mohammad this killed a Mohammad that' of simply 'Mohammad killed Mohammad' :D
:rotfl: Saar, you get the Pakistanology prize for today.
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Those tracking “Liberals” in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan may find this interesting:
A beginner’s guide to Pakistani liberal politics

August 21, 2012

………………… based on my prolonged discussions with the liberals, I have managed to devise a five-step approach for the layman towards becoming a liberal in Pakistani politics.

Step 1: Question the Two-Nation Theory: ……….

Step 2: Bhutto was a genius and all wrong precipitated from General Zia: ..................

Step 3: Bash the army: ………………

Step 4: Stress on eradicating the Taliban and supporting the Baloch: …………………..


Remember, any mention of Kashmir is now totally out of fashion. This could instantly get you into the deepest far right corner of Pak politics or affiliate you with Islamism. Stick to something of this sort,

Kashmir is India’s internal conflict and, besides, Kashmiris want a separate state, anyway.

And, yes, do not forget this one,

Drones are very precise in killing terrorists.

Step 5: Bash the mullahs and the madrassas (religious seminaries): ………………….
From here:

Blogs : Express Tribune
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Development & Decay in Man Mohan Singh's native village in Pakistan
Dr. Singh sent an Indian firm to install solar-powered street lights, solar-powered lights to 51 households that did not have electricity and a water heating system at the mosque close to the site of his destroyed home.
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BijuShet wrote:From Reuters news story: (Posting in full)
In Pakistan, underground parties push the boundaries.
Yours truly has scored invites to many such parties. 8) :mrgreen:
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