Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2012

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Food poisoning: Three police trainees dead at Karachi training centre
Over 500 trainees were having andaa channa (potatoes with chickpeas) for dinner when they started falling ill.
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shiv wrote:This Paki is a charmer. He begs with such dignity and poise. We don't want your money he says defiantly, even as he begs for help and mercy. His commanding presence, his diction and erudition make beggary look like it is a royal pastime and penury a day at the royal races.
:D What a bunch of losers. Pakistan is truly the leader among losers in Islamic countries.
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The Karachi I used to know

paki crying for old days
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Rony wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:pak high commissioner in londonistan has been defending the pak railway minister's bounty setting ways on national tv... that in itself is making the news
Here is the video. Wajid Shamsul Hasan's Pakiness in full display
http://in.news.yahoo.com/video/skyworld ... 77149.html

The same fellow once suggested that 26/11 was planned in a boat in international waters.
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CRamS wrote:R-man, good insight. But I have a tough time believing that this AQ s!it is such a force to reckon with.
Why? This is quite preposterous actually. If you've been paying attention all these years, Al Qaeda has been and still is a phenomenal threat, despite having top leaders Droned out every few months.

You seem to have this view that unless everyone in this world says TSP, TSP, TSP and Unkil wakes up every day and pummels TSP to your satisfaction, everything else is irrelevant and trivial.
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http://tribune.com.pk/story/441005/they ... d-chicken/
“They’ve taken four split air conditioners… look, they couldn’t yank this one out so it’s still here,” said a kitchen staffer, as he looked at an AC hanging from its cables. The KFC branch is flooded with water and shards of glass that crunch beneath the feet. “Look at the bathroom,” said an employee. “They’ve taken away the taps. That’s why it’s flooded!” The delivery systems, most of the furniture and the computers at the popular KFC outlet have gone. Witnesses said that they saw the men balancing their newfound loot on their heads....The pattern was repeated at all of the banks at PIDC. MCB, UBL, NIB, Allied Bank and Al Baraka branches have been gutted, and the National Bank of Pakistan (NBP) has suffered extensive damage...Young boys snaked around, collecting the largest pieces of broken glass they could find to sell. “I’m going to take this to Shershah,” said Mullah Dad, as he balanced a huge sack on his back. :rotfl:
Pakis are doing in Pakistan what Pakis do outside Pakistan. Namely raise a huge hue and cry about H&D and Sovirginity when it is all just about looting, baksheesh and money. :lol:
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chetak wrote:


Two faced Pakistan exposes itself in the US

Gen Eshan ul-Haq’s mission was rather more crude. Speaking at the Center for the National Interest, formerly known as the Nixon Center, Haq summoned the ghosts and djinns used by the military and even civilian governments in the past, but which no longer frighten Washington. He proved that the anti-India mindset within the ISI and the army is alive and well. The general didn’t come here as a loose cannon. He was well prepared and was giving a specific message.

Haq opened grandly with India’s “unrelenting hegemonic ambitions” in the region, and went on to stress how Pakistan was “unfairly maligned” and blamed for terrorism. He claimed that India was the only country comfortable about a continued US presence in Afghanistan beyond 2014, because it fits into New Delhi’s regional agenda. All other neighbours would see the US as “destabilizing”, he said.

He reminisced about the good times when the US provided fighter jets and anti-tank missiles to Pakistan, but no more. Only ‘counter terrorism’ help was coming these days. Since the Pakistan military wasn’t getting conventional weapons to face India, it was building nuclear weapons.

He then claimed Pakistan had no ties with the Taliban and went on to blame the civilian government for creating the Taliban. It went all downhill from there, and many in the audience simply stopped listening. Some tables emptied entirely, as soon as he finished his speech. “I thought I was among friends,” he said plaintively when faced with honest, direct questions.

Reading Seema Sirohi's great article on Khar and Ehsan Ul Haq finally made the shoe drop for me. The whole purpose of Pak Army/ISI/govt in perpetrating the 2008 Mumbai attacks was the maligning of India as a terrorist-breeding society, and to provide Pakistan with talking points in dealings with Umrika.

Think about it - 10 SDREs with Hindu holy threads on their wrists(bought by David Headley) and professing to speak Indian Hindi went around shooting not just Indians but Americans and Jews. Had it not been for the phone intercepts of Pak-based handlers and Shri Tukaram Omble's selfless courage in capturing Kasab alive which blew the whole scheme open, Pakistan would have told the US each and every time US pointed at Pak jihadi groups that look, Indians have anti-US, anti-Semitic terrorists too, and you(the US) have no reason to favor India over Pakistan on count of terrorism.

Pakistan has taken the US warming of relations with India very very badly. Pakistan, including its Army was everything to the US once, India's name was mud and Pakistanis desperately want that back. Pak terrorism is not just directed at killing Indians and Afghans to advance psychopathic Pak policies - every other terrorist attack by Pak state sponsored actors is geared to orchestrate Pak relations with the US to the detriment of India, a cry for US attention and moolah.
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Apparently people who were 400% hurt by the latest insult to the Prophet, could not control their anger, ransacked bootleg wineshops in Karachi and made away with cases of booze.

I dont blame them, they needed something to soothe their anger :mrgreen:
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Jhujar wrote:
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The hat wearing fart-face on the right has explained Pakistani anger at the way the US took Osama bn Laden without Pakistan's permission.

This is so unlike Pakistan who kept Osama for 10 years with US permission.
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Brad Goodman wrote:The Karachi I used to know

paki crying for old days
This moron may well belong to my generation or maybe older for I too saw he movie "Hatari" in 1964. The man is from an elite background - he spoke English in 1964 - which probably represented about 1% of all shitistanis of 1964. He had access to a car back then and had the money and leisure to bunk class and eat. The man comes from a similar social background to mine - but was likely far more wealthy than my family and more akin to the families of several of my classmates from that era.

Nostalgia for that era needs to be tempered by the fact that 90% of the other citizens of your country were rural and poor. These shitlanders have done little to change that. While India was setting up national science labs and national industries in that era Shitland was planning war with India, having got an entire air force with Sabres and F-104s as a gift from the US
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Next Paoq Frydin will be celebrated as Yaum E Mashooq-E -RawSool in Pakistan . Lets hope the numbers in peaceful death and destruction improve by 3 digits.
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:shock: Sigh, Hatari makes it onto BRF. I tried to see it on DVD-unwatchable.
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Baby elephant walks by Lawrence welk was a big hit in 1964 so was Calcutta by Laurence welk orchestra
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Anujan wrote:Apparently people who were 400% hurt by the latest insult to the Prophet, could not control their anger, ransacked bootleg wineshops in Karachi and made away with cases of booze.

I dont blame them, they needed something to soothe their anger :mrgreen:
No that was spiritual quest and then
thirst was quenched upon which thus spake
Johnny Walker (PBUH) who said keep walking

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A_Rai wrote: I got the shock of my life when Sunni IT Admin in my office told me that Hafiz Saeed was NGO wala and when tried explaining him he was the guy who trained terrorist for 26\11, he shocked me further by asking whether I saw Hafiz Saheb training those guys with my own eyes.
According to him this all was a Jewish conspiracy and I used the word Sunni to describe him because according to him Shias were half Jewish.
Please do your duty as a citizen dial 100 and report that scum to the police immediately. You have right to remain anonymous. That least you can do to help the society. This guy and whoever is brainwashing him have to be watched. I also request all BRF members and lurkers to keep vigil and report such people to police.

Thanks.
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Exploiting the Prophet
A Pakistani imam, Abdul Wahid Qasmi, once told me that President Bill Clinton burned to death scores of Americans for criticizing Jesus. If America can execute blasphemers, he said, why can’t Pakistan?

I challenged him, and he plucked an Urdu-language book off his shelf, thumbed through it, and began reading triumphantly about the 1993 raid on David Koresh’s cult in Waco, Tex.

More broadly, this is less about offensive videos than about a political war unfolding in the Muslim world. Extremist Muslims like Salafis see themselves as unfairly marginalized, and they hope to exploit this issue to embarrass their governments and win public support. This is a political struggle, not just a religious battle — and we’re pawns.
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A_Rai wrote: I got the shock of my life when Sunni IT Admin in my office told me that Hafiz Saeed was NGO wala and when tried explaining him he was the guy who trained terrorist for 26\11, he shocked me further by asking whether I saw Hafiz Saheb training those guys with my own eyes.
According to him this all was a Jewish conspiracy and I used the word Sunni to describe him because according to him Shias were half Jewish.
To me it sounds like this guy was pulling a fast one on you and you might have fallen for it. He was openly saying everything that would make you suspicious of him and no terror supporter is that stupid, but any sarcastic joker would say such things

In my view the way to handle people who ask if you have seen Saeed with your own eyes is to say 'Yes I have".
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No Shiv, there are muslims in India who openly support the paki murderers. They are brainwashed to an extend that they are convinced pakistan is not responsible for the terrorism in kashmir or anywhere in India. I have met such muslim and he was not bluffing. It is important to dig deep and find out whom they meet and what they do.
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shiv wrote:
A_Rai wrote: I got the shock of my life when Sunni IT Admin in my office told me that Hafiz Saeed was NGO wala and when tried explaining him he was the guy who trained terrorist for 26\11, he shocked me further by asking whether I saw Hafiz Saheb training those guys with my own eyes.
According to him this all was a Jewish conspiracy and I used the word Sunni to describe him because according to him Shias were half Jewish.
To me it sounds like this guy was pulling a fast one on you and you might have fallen for it. He was openly saying everything that would make you suspicious of him and no terror supporter is that stupid, but any sarcastic joker would say such things

In my view the way to handle people who ask if you have seen Saeed with your own eyes is to say 'Yes I have".
Best thing is to say that US has put a bounty of $10M on Hafiz to be captured. I would put my Rs100 rupees into that basket. Pull out the 100 Rs and put it on the table.

This is perfect countr move for the money raised for jihad against India.
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abhijitm wrote:No Shiv, there are muslims in India who openly support the paki murderers. They are brainwashed to an extend that they are convinced pakistan is not responsible for the terrorism in kashmir or anywhere in India. I have met such muslim and he was not bluffing. It is important to dig deep and find out whom they meet and what they do.
There are terror supporters and here are stupid people. No real supporter of terror will expose himself by openly pissing off people unless he is stupid - especially in an environment in which anyone with a Muslim name who says "Pakistan" is automatically branded as a Paki terrorist supporter. I have Muslim friends who are educated and sophisticated enough and Indian enough to openly say the types of things that IT manager said knowing that they have zero connection with terror and if they know there are talking to a guy who can be made to look like a fool.

It is the quiet "model citizen" types whom no one suspects as being a terror supporter who gets things done.
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Shiv, these quiet terrorist type people thrive in the community who give moral support. Terrorism hit us in two ways, one actual distruction and two moral corruption. Both are equally fatal and need to be confronted with equal vigor.
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Acharya wrote: Best thing is to say that US has put a bounty of $10M on Hafiz to be captured. I would put my Rs100 rupees into that basket. Pull out the 100 Rs and put it on the table.
^^ Aji,
A small nitpick.

US announced a bounty of $ 10 million for "information leading to the arrest and conviction of Hafiz Saeed" - though this is different to keeping Osama alive for 10 years while simultaneously announcing a bounty for "information leading to his capture or death" , Both are cases of US conveying false intent to the gullible types in the target populations.

The "conviction" in Hawpig's case obviously meant , conviction in a Pakistani court. Its is a fart's chance in a windtunnel for that happening - whatever may be the mountain of evidence dumped in front of a Pakistani court. So nothing momentous in this US bounty except giving the impression that Hawpig is "THE" Amir to Jihadi pasand types post Osama. Which Master doesn't want to exert a better control on his dogs, hain ??

Most of India's sold outs in MSM and Politics have latched onto that declaration and projected it as some gigantic favor US has bestowed upon us hapless SDRE's. The same lie is being pushed in opinion pieces of known snake oil peddlers in Western thinktanks too - so giving credence to that lie before our own people is counterproductive.

Of course we can retransmit that lie to Jihadi pasand types - some rabid dog is sure to strain at the leash and bite back its master.
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WTF

High profile romance in Pakistan exposed
One of the Western intelligence agencies have romantic relations between youngest foreign minister of Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar and Bilawal Bhutto, the son of President Asif Ali Zardari and slain Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
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Skanda wrote:WTF

High profile romance in Pakistan exposed
One of the Western intelligence agencies have romantic relations between youngest foreign minister of Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar and Bilawal Bhutto, the son of President Asif Ali Zardari and slain Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
I believe Bilawal is the female and Mr. Hina Rabbani Khar the male in this relationship!

"The foundation of our relations is eternal and soon we shall be just ourselves." :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

The only way out of this situation for Zardari is to himself marry Hina. I mean what kind of example is Zardari giving to the momeen of the land if he doesn't even have one wife even though four are allowed!
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It took just 65 years for the myth to be dismantled.


An unposted letter to PM Singh
Faiza Mirza
Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality. The reason behind our desire to move is extremely simple. It is because India since 1947 has grown as a nation, an economy and a country. Despite of the poverty and other related issues, we all see India as a progressive society and in a very positive light. We all want to live in a country which is ruled by secular politicians where fascist elements are given minimum representation in the parliament; a country where people can coexist or at least consider this ideology a welcoming thought.

You caught your Kasab but what about the numerous Kasabs who are ready to wipe out the entire population of Pakistan by flagging them as infidels, anti-Islam, pro-India, US puppets and just plain secular? What about us who continue to strive for a change, however, feel helpless at the hands of the radical elements freely roaming around in Pakistan? Is there any solace for us?
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PS> Oh and BTW Faiza Mirza is toast .....I think. Maybe. I don't know. Arrah knows what goes in a Paki mind.
PPS> Waitaminute..........I think we are all ****ing doomed! Was this not our worst nightmare!
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abhijitm wrote:No Shiv, there are muslims in India who openly support the paki murderers. They are brainwashed to an extend that they are convinced pakistan is not responsible for the terrorism in kashmir or anywhere in India. I have met such muslim and he was not bluffing. It is important to dig deep and find out whom they meet and what they do.
Same here. What other reason can you think of behind riots we saw recently and rise of IM, SIMI kind of terrorist groups ?
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Skanda wrote:WTF

High profile romance in Pakistan exposed
One of the Western intelligence agencies have romantic relations between youngest foreign minister of Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar and Bilawal Bhutto, the son of President Asif Ali Zardari and slain Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
WTF, Despite all for SMK's efforts he has been bested by Bilawal.
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abhijitm wrote:Shiv, these quiet terrorist type people thrive in the community who give moral support. Terrorism hit us in two ways, one actual distruction and two moral corruption. Both are equally fatal and need to be confronted with equal vigor.
Abhijit I am referring to the IT manager we were discussing, not numerous anonymous terror supporters. I still think that guy had good laugh by saying all those things. There is bugger all that anyone can do with smart alec talk and all this business of reporting shiporting would be useless for a guy like that. Do you seriously think you can go to the police in India and say "My IT manager asked me if I saw Hafiz Saeed and also described Shias as Jews so you should check him to see if he is a terrorist." and then expect them to open an investigation?

You will have to file an FIR and make a formal complaint. And if the guy simply denies that he said anything of the sort and files a counter claim that you are making fake allegations it is you who are screwed. Get real.
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Skanda wrote:WTF

High profile romance in Pakistan exposed
One of the Western intelligence agencies have romantic relations between youngest foreign minister of Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar and Bilawal Bhutto, the son of President Asif Ali Zardari and slain Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
There is one more article on the alleged Hina Rabbani Khar / Bilawal Bhutto affair by the same author in the same Bangladeshi magazine:

Cold war inside Pakistani Presidential Palace
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SSridhar wrote:Pakistan's Railways Minister announces a bounty of USD 100,000 for the head of the man who made the film.
Speaking here at a press conference on Saturday, the Federal Minister for Railways Ghulam Ahmed Bilour said that he was aware that it was a crime to instigate the people for murder, but he was ready to commit the crime. He added that there was no way to instill fear among blasphemers other than taking this step.

The minister also called on members of the Taliban and al Qaeda for their support, saying that if members of the banned militant organisations kill the maker of the blasphemous movie, they will also be rewarded.
UK’s Daily Telegraph:

Ban Pakistani minister from Britain, say MPs

AFP via Google:

US slams Pakistani minister's filmmaker bounty
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^ Minister was a non-state actor when this statement was made and that is his personal view. :mrgreen:
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Diary of a social butterfly this week is hilarious. Esp the world war 2 reference.

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta3/tft ... m0.twitter

also apparently someone has put up ads on NY subway "Support Jews not Jihad" or something. Pakistan government should take note and declare everyday to be love the jihad day.
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In Greece, Mohammaddens particularly of Arab origin disavow the violent actions of their “Miskeen” co-religionists originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan who rampaged through the streets of Athens on Sunday :lol: :

Greek Muslim Association claim Pakistanis responsible for riot
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Aditya_V wrote:"Skanda"]WTF
One of the Western intelligence agencies have romantic relations between youngest foreign minister of Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar and Bilawal Bhutto, the son of President Asif Ali Zardari and slain Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
WTF, Despite all for SMK's efforts he has been bested by Bilawal.
Let GOI exploit the expertise of one of BRF L&M Master and see the result. Long lasting peace after initial short term commotion.
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Skanda wrote:WTF

High profile romance in Pakistan exposed
One of the Western intelligence agencies have romantic relations between youngest foreign minister of Pakistan, Hina Rabbani Khar and Bilawal Bhutto, the son of President Asif Ali Zardari and slain Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.
Does this not make Hina wajib-ul-scuttle now? committing adultery and all.
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pgbhat wrote:^ Minister was a non-state actor when this statement was made and that is his personal view. :mrgreen:

The minister is a non-acting state terrorist.
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ramana wrote:
pgbhat wrote:^ Minister was a non-state actor when this statement was made and that is his personal view. :mrgreen:

The minister is a non-acting state terrorist.
The minister and the Talibaddies could claim to begin with that those who sold off osama bin laden including top politicians and judnails were acting in non-state capacity temporarily.

The only permanent state actors remaining in pukistan are purest of purest yahoos. Rest are temporary.
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You know, I was unaware of this fact myself. Just to make sure it wasn't a rumour or urban legend, I went to the net and searched for the forms for TSP passport application. These words are right there in the middle of the form:

I ________________________ S/o, W/o, D/o ___________________________ aged ______ years, adult Muslim
resident of __________________________________________________ declare that:-
(i) I am a Muslim and believe in the absolute and unqualified finality of the prophethood of Muhammad (Peace Be upon Him) as the last of the Prophets.
(ii) I do not recognize any person who claims to be a prophet in any sense of the word or of any description whatsoever after Muhammad (peace be upon him) or recognize such a claimant as a prophet or a religious
reformer as or a Muslim. (iii) I consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Quadiani to be an imposter Nabi and also consider his followers whether belonging to the Lahori or Quadiani group to be non-muslim

I was like WOW!
Not just passport but if you visit a Temple or Gurdwara in naPakistan you have to put your signature in a register that states that "I am not a muslim" right next to your name.
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Today is funny news day :lol:
But then its the intellectuals like Hassan Nisar and some minister etc. talking. So I thought of sharing here.
Behold !!!
Pakistani politicians and intellectuals including Hassan Nisar have started openly advocating a confederation of India-Pakistan and if possible Afghanistan, Bangladesh etc too ... just like the European Union.
Pakistanis want to re-unite with India!
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Edit : LOL more crap news coming in :P
An unposted letter to PM Singh | DAWN.COM
http://dawn.com/2012/09/10/an-unposted- ... -pm-singh/
Excerpts:
Mr Singh, many Pakistanis will refuse to openly admit this but most of us would like to be considered eligible for Indian nationality. The reason behind our desire to move is extremely simple. It is because India since 1947 has grown as a nation, an economy and a country. Despite of the poverty and other related issues, we all see India as a progressive society and in a very positive light. We all want to live in a country which is ruled by secular politicians where fascist elements are given minimum representation in the parliament; a country where people can coexist or at least consider this ideology a welcoming thought.....
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