Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2012

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 30 Sep 2012 05:57

Suppiah wrote:The Indian babus ability to come with 20 pages forms, to be filled up in quintuplicate and attested by numerous fellow babus, each of whom would extract a price for his signature, is of course legendary. But never has this been use

"Lots of forms. Stacks of forms. An average of nine thousand, seven hundred, and forty-seven of them were required to gain entrance to Hell. The largest form ran to fifteen thousand, four hundred, and ninety-seven questions. The shortest to just five, but five of such subtle phraseology, labyrinthine grammar, and malicious ambiguity that, released into the mortal world, they would certainly have formed the basis of a new religion or, at the least, a management course."

http://www.amazon.com/Johannes-Cabal-Ne ... B002DOSBL6

Johannes Cabal Necromancer by Jonathan L Howard. Well worth the read to understand how babu Trubshaw minds work.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 30 Sep 2012 07:27

http://dawn.com/2012/09/29/bilour-offer ... ers-too-2/

After offering a bounty of $100,000 for the killing of the US maker of an anti-Islam film, Railways Minister Ghulam Ahmad Bilour on Friday announced to put a bounty on the heads of the future blasphemers, too.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 30 Sep 2012 07:30

Cosmo_R wrote:The shortest to just five, but five of such subtle phraseology, labyrinthine grammar, and malicious ambiguity that, released into the mortal world, they would certainly have formed the basis of a new religion or, at the least, a management course."

One of the best sentences I have ever read...combines wisdom with humour...how true!

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 30 Sep 2012 08:31

A_Rai wrote:Is the Pakistan army martial?

The theory of Martial races was complete BS spread by the British, it was more of "theory of races and castes where we have our people to influence so that they stay loyal"

For example, Marathas were no longer classified as martial after the 1857 rebellion

Sure why not? They only had people like Shivaji.

Same with the SDRE southies, whose history and literature abounds with warriors and peans sung to bravery and courage. Rajendra Chola had conquered half of Indonesia and everything in between. Remember that LTTE was fullout southie SDRE and southie SDREs also have contributed to Army chiefs like Sundarji and Padmanabhan. But they werent classified as "martial" because the hierarchical structures like landowning classes did not dominate fully in south and it was hard to exert control.

The Punjabi Mussalman on the other hand, was loyal and could be controlled and fought for the British. So they rewarded them with "Martial" tag and recruited them liberally in Indian Army (pre Independence) Ofcourse this got interpreted as "One Pakistani = 8 Hindoos" and the "Martial Pakistanis" got their musharraf repeatedly kicked by the Indian army who employes SDREs onlee.

interesting thing is, they got their musharraf kicked in the desert, in the plains, in marshes, on top of mountains, in glaciers, on the sea, under the sea, on air. There is not one place where the Pakistani martial races didnt get their musharraf kicked by non-martial SDREs.

arun · Post by **arun** » 30 Sep 2012 09:03

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country self-claimed to have been created to provide a safe haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, adherents of the Shia sect of Mohammaddenism stubbornly cling to the delusion that the slaughter of Shia is not a case of Green on Green Intra-Mohammdden violence unleashed by their co-religionists of the Sunni sect but rather a case of violence perpetrated by the Yahudi, Hanood and Nasara axis of Israel, India and the US

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Looks like the Shia have fallen victim to the rhetoric dished out by the leadership of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan that Mohammaddenim is “The Religion of Peace” and hence no Mohammadden can kill another Mohammadden leading to the conclusion that the killings have to have been committed by Non-Mohammaddens.

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‘US, Israel, India behind Shia killings’

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 30 Sep 2012 09:12

interesting thing is, they got their musharraf kicked in the desert, in the plains, in marshes, on top of mountains, in glaciers, on the sea, under the sea, on air. There is not one place where the Pakistani martial races didnt get their musharraf kicked by non-martial SDREs.

Whenever I see Paki bombast in martial or marital or any other field, I use this as aide-memoire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNfL0vRM4M

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 30 Sep 2012 09:26

A_Rai wrote:Is the Pakistan army martial?

Thats an article written by Bekaar Patel. Wonder why the sudden equal-equal - must have been told to project a more "balanced" image to keep his credibility and not get baldly exposed as a Baki troll.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 30 Sep 2012 09:30

Pakistan army or Pakjabis have never been martial and never will be in future!! It is our political leadership that is just afraid of their empty threats!! We should have taken over Pakistan in 1971!! but 43 years later we are still suffering!! the sooner the Pakjabis are destroyed the better it will be for the whole of the world!!

partha · Post by **partha** » 30 Sep 2012 09:59

Raja Bose wrote:
A_Rai wrote:Is the Pakistan army martial?
Thats an article written by Bekaar Patel. Wonder why the sudden equal-equal - must have been told to project a more "balanced" image to keep his credibility and not get baldly exposed as a Baki troll.

One day..one day maybe 50 years later, the world will know that Bekaar Patel was a RAW plant in the Pakistani media

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 30 Sep 2012 10:00

Pakistani Panjabis are martial in the same sense as they ruled Hindus for 8 centuries; in the same manner as they created the magnificence of Indo-Islamic architecture. Just as they gave the world Mir Taqi Mir and Ghalib.

Any achievement of the umma is de facto by the umma in which the Pakistani Panjabi peasant tilling his hard scrabble 1/4 acre with the help of his water buffalo and the benefit of his IQ of 75 to 85 holds, by birthright, an inalienable equity.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 30 Sep 2012 11:47

Adnan Sami moves high court to buy flat in Delhi

partha · Post by **partha** » 30 Sep 2012 12:03

^
Err, on a Karan Thapar show, he claimed to be a Mumbaikar (not Indian mind you but Mumbaikar). What happened? Wants to be a Delhite now?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 30 Sep 2012 12:09

partha wrote:^
Err, on a Karan Thapar show, he claimed to be a Mumbaikar (not Indian mind you but Mumbaikar). What happened? Wants to be a Delhite now?

They should deport his elephantine ass.

Are we short of bad singers in India??

Do we need to import such avoirdupois eminences from paki land?

sum · Post by **sum** » 30 Sep 2012 12:19

Anindya wrote:Adnan Sami moves high court to buy flat in Delhi

^^Typical (TSP)camel in the tent story.

Will next claim something else as his birthright with the usual Paki sense of entitelment. Can safely expect more of such cases as the MMS/US led Aman ki Tamasha gathers momentum.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 30 Sep 2012 14:22

Apparently today (or rather yesterday in India) there was some music competition being shown on an Indian channel and the Pakis who had been invited as part of Aman-ki-Tamasha started fighting with the judges and raising a ruckus.

It all looks pretty well scripted.
1) Engage in Rona Dhona as to how India should be a big brother and invite Pakis. Keep begging at every venue for some scrap to be thrown their way.
2) Get invited to India.
3) Boast how the invitation proves that India recognizes the natural soup-e-rear skills of the Paki in XYZ field.
4) Arrive in India, enjoy all the hospitality, try to get some lucrative contracts/appearances.
5) Create a scene accusing hosts of not being generous and hospitable enough. Call press conferences in host country to proclaim the same.
6) Go back to Pakistan and loudly proclaim how the whole India trip was the most insulting thing and how India is cheap dirty poor place much worse off than Pakistan and how they were able to lord over the Indians while there.
7) Go back to Step #1, rinse and repeat.

The only cure for these uncivilized wretched cretins is to ignore them completely. The more one pays attention to them, the more it serves their purpose. Ignore them as if they don't exist and they will keep making bigger and bigger fools of themselves.

As Anujan-ullah stated a while back, the problem with Pakis is they want others to tell them that they have a big richard. They are happy if someone even brings into discussion the size of their richard, since according to them that proves the existence of their richard. OTOH, if one ignores them and doesn't say anything, they will go crazy and will start tearing their clothes off and start wildly swinging their richard at others in public, with expected results.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 30 Sep 2012 15:17

Pakistan: Attack on Hindus prompts blasphemy case

Pakistani police say they have registered a blasphemy case against nine Muslims suspected of attacking a Hindu temple.

The case is fairly unusual — Pakistan’s harsh blasphemy laws are more often invoked against alleged insults to Islam, not minority faiths.

The laws, sections of which carry the death penalty or life imprisonment, have faced international scrutiny this year after a young Christian girl in Islamabad was accused of desecrating a Quran.

Police officer Mohammad Hanif said Muslims protesting an anti-Islam film on Sept. 21 ransacked the Sri Krishna Ram temple in a Hindu neighborhood on the outskirts of the southern city of Karachi.

They allegedly broke Hindu statues, damaged a holy book and beat the custodian.

A cleric is among the suspects, but none had been arrested as of Sunday.

Ashley Kravitz · Post by **Ashley Kravitz** » 30 Sep 2012 17:06

^
The primary objective of this drama might be to:

1. To legitimize blasphemy law and soften its image by demonstrating that it can be used to "protect" minorities.
2. An image building exercise by Pakistanis who are very conscious of the fact that it has taken a beating recently. Already the news has appeared on a series of international news web-sites.

Not a single suspect has been arrested till now. I am sure nothing will come off it. Another thing I noticed was that none of the "modernly enlightened" Pakistani newspapers reported this act of vandalism on 21st September when it was committed in the financial capital of Pakistan. I wonder how many such embarrassing events are self-censured by the Pakistani Media.

nakul · Post by **nakul** » 30 Sep 2012 18:48

His TFTAness the Paki Army chief to visit Russia next week

Pakistan Army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani is scheduled to visit Russia next week to give a push to Islamabad's efforts to improve relations with Moscow ahead of the pull out of foreign troops from Afghanistan.

Kayani during his October 3-6 visit will hold talks with Russia's top military leadership and is expected to meet some political leaders, defence sources said yesterday.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Sep 2012 22:10

Rajabose, Its Surkshetra with a Paki with uber pakiness on display. Its on Colors TV. Even the hostess is pro Paki but that is not enough.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 30 Sep 2012 22:26

Ashley Kravitz wrote: this act of vandalism on 21st September when it was committed in the financial capital of Pakistan.

What vandalism was committed in Washington DC, the financial capital of Pakistan?

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 30 Sep 2012 22:35

ramana wrote:Rajabose, Its Surkshetra with a Paki with uber pakiness on display. Its on Colors TV. Even the hostess is pro Paki but that is not enough.

Colours TV is a shady channel--the choice of programmes hints at a very strong Gora / EJ connection.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 30 Sep 2012 22:39

http://dawn.com/2012/09/30/smokers-corn ... e-outrage/

great piece by Paracha. Reading that after watching Virat Kohli's tornado was icing on the cake

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 01 Oct 2012 01:06

Ramana/Varun,

What is this colors TV? Do you get it in US? I have dish network, and my wife subscribed to all the Indian TV channels that you can think of, but I haven't seen anything called colors. Maybe I missed it. I Only watch 582 (willow cricket) and the one below (ten cricket, 576), and maybe some of the news channels undy TV, CNN-IBN, TimesNow from time to time

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Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 01 Oct 2012 02:05

^^ CRSji,
If you have an android device, get the PuriTV app from market - its a free app and most indian channels are listed - i think colors is there too. I rarely watch TV these days but this app is quite handy for tracking from time to time what the media peeps are upto.

PratikDas · Post by **PratikDas** » 01 Oct 2012 03:30

CRamS wrote:Ramana/Varun,

What is this colors TV? Do you get it in US?

Aapka Colors on at&t uverse cable Tv

Surkshetra is rubbish.

archan · Post by **archan** » 01 Oct 2012 08:13

CRamS wrote:Ramana/Varun,

What is this colors TV? Do you get it in US? I have dish network, and my wife subscribed to all the Indian TV channels that you can think of, but I haven't seen anything called colors. Maybe I missed it. I Only watch 582 (willow cricket) and the one below (ten cricket, 576), and maybe some of the news channels undy TV, CNN-IBN, TimesNow from time to time .

Why do you want to raise your BP sir? You already are excitable. Not just the pakis that Resamiya clown is unbearable as well.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 01 Oct 2012 08:53

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 618558.cms

Convicted 26/11 terrorist Ajmal Kasab desperately wanted to meet the Pakistani high commissioner in India after his arrest in Mumbai.

TOI has obtained exclusive copies of the two letters Kasab wrote in Urdu to the Pakistani high commissioner. The first sought an appointment for legal help and requested that the body of his colleague, Ismail Khan, be taken back to Pakistan for burial. The second letter said he did not want the services of an Indian lawyer and requested the Pakistan government to appoint a compatriot "mere bachav ke liye (for my protection)". Neither of his letters got any response.

In the first undated letter that runs into three pages, Kasab stated that he was a resident of Faridkot in Pakistan's Punjab province. Providing his residence telephone number (03017363886), Kasab, now 25, admitted his role in the Mumbai attack and narrated his journey from Pakistan till he was captured.

"I took training in a Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) training camp since I wanted to become a jihadi. For this, I learned to operate firearms and bombs at Muridke in Muzaffarabad and became a fidayeen. Hafiz Saeed, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, Abu Hamza and Kahafa trained me in LeT camps and brainwashed me," Kasab wrote.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Oct 2012 08:56

Insecurity Pushes More Hindu refugees into Rajasthan

The largest group of refugees, made up of 184 people, came in by the India-Pakistan Thar Express on the second Sunday of September. Last Sunday saw another 48 Pakistanis arrive on pilgrim visa, and then refuse to return home. There are now over 300 people housed in the camps on the town’s {Jodhpur's} suburbs.

Ram and his extended family fled Pakistan in the face of religious persecution. His father, Soomro (70), died just nine days before the team left for India. Soomro was buried at Mitho Khoso in Tando Adam of Hyderabad district, 40-45 km from the place of his death. The grieving family says it had no option but to take the body that far and bury it as cremation — the traditional way of disposal of the body for Hindus — was not allowed.

“Life there is worse than death,” says Ram. “The main reason for our decision not to go back is the insecurity to our women and the religious persecution.”

There are social and economic hardships too like bonded labour, non-payment of wages and lifting of livestock belonging to the minority population.

Asked about the reported instances of kidnapping of Hindu girls that have figured in the Pakistani media in the recent months, Dharma Ram, Suraj Mal, Devji Ram, Longa Das, Lokumal and Kanwar Ram claim that the average is of 30 cases in a month in Sindh alone. They said a 14-year-old Puna was kidnapped from their locality 10 days prior to their departure.

While the wars between the two neighbours in the 1960s and early 1970s drove them in hordes out of Pakistan —90,000 reached Rajasthan in 1971— the fencing of the border in the past two decades had almost put an end to the illegal crossing over to this side.

A visit to the camp and other locations such as Ramdeo Nagar inhabited by migrants gives the impression that the administration, though sympathetic, has not done much. This is despite Rajasthan Chief Minister Ashok Gehlot himself promising them help.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Oct 2012 09:06

Birkin babe got the ISI guys worried with her atmospherics with SMK. So they started the Bilwal rumor to get her on notice that she is under nigraha.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 01 Oct 2012 10:05

Actually the visit by UN to investigate "extra judicial killings" was quite curious and left a lot of people furious.

Pak army was trying to raise the drone killings as "extra judicial" but the UN panel was more interested in investigating Balochistan. Birkin Babe had some murky role in that. Payback for that maybe?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Oct 2012 10:22

Normally, Pakistani foreign ministers are Army appointees. Birkin Babe, no exception to that rule, was as well parroting the Army line. So, from where did she get the courage, if that was why the PA is suddenly angry with her, to kick the ladder after climbing it ? It appears to me that the Bilawal-Birkin Babe (BBB) affair emanting from an obscure Bangladeshi newspaper is a PA-ISI planted story.

Or, is it something else which we are not seeing ?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 01 Oct 2012 11:23

Dronacharya dispatches three in north Waziristan

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 01 Oct 2012 12:01

Birkin Babe denies affair. PPP blames ISI for starting rumor.

Senior PPP figures on Thursday said they believed the claims were part of a plot by the country’s feared Inter-Service Intelligence [ISI] agency to damage Ms Rabbani Khar’s reputation because it blames her for her part in facilitating a UN investigation into thousands of missing people detained by the security forces.

One PPP official told The Daily Telegraph that the ISI expects the United Nations’ Working Group on Enforced and Involuntary Disappearances to recommend senior army and intelligence officials be charged for their role and blame Ms Rabbani Khar for allowing the delegation into the country.

“They are not happy with her,” the official said. “The UN mission received a cold reception but Hina was called in by the president to meet him and the army chief. She crossed some red line.”

partha · Post by **partha** » 01 Oct 2012 12:48

hehe.. that Bekar Patel article questioning the martial nature of PA has caused kujli to some people.

partha · Post by **partha** » 01 Oct 2012 13:23

http://tribune.com.pk/story/444948/wedd ... -violence/

GHOTKI:
Two people were injured in Dad Laghari, Ghotki on Sunday when seminary students allegedly attacked wedding guests for singing folk songs.
According to reports, women were singing a Sindhi folk song ‘Sehra’ when students from the nearby madrassa, led by Maulvi Tayyab Arain, attacked the guests with sticks and stones. Hadi Bux Malik and his son-in-law, Hajan Malik, were injured.
“It was my son’s engagement,” said Hadi Bux. “They asked us to stop singing and used abusive language for our women and children.”
Hadi Bux and relatives went to the police station for registering an FIR. The police, however, detained Hajan Malik and registered an NC against him on the complaint of Maulvi Tayyab, who also reached the station along with his students.

PROGRESS! AoA!

partha · Post by **partha** » 01 Oct 2012 13:56

http://tribune.com.pk/story/445178/rims ... backtrack/

ISLAMABAD: Three witnesses who had testified against prayer leader Khalid Jadoon for leveling blasphemy allegations against Christian girl Rimsha Masih backtracked from their statements, saying that the police “forced” them to do it, Express News reported Monday.

Looks like they are ought to get that poor girl. What a sick society. It has now become a blackhole. There is no escape once you are accused of blasphemy.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 01 Oct 2012 16:04

Raja Bose wrote:As Anujan-ullah stated a while back, the problem with Pakis is they want others to tell them that they have a big richard. They are happy if someone even brings into discussion the size of their richard, since according to them that proves the existence of their richard. OTOH, if one ignores them and doesn't say anything, they will go crazy and will start tearing their clothes off and start wildly swinging their richard at others in public, with expected results.

Well Pakis do indeed feel like boasting of their richards and orchards.

Once in a forum a Paki started telling how Indians don't have big richards and some BBC report said so. So I told him that in 1971, when 93,000 Pakis surrendered to India, we made them take off their pants and we measured the size of their richards. We found out that their richards were one foot long .... that is all of them put together.

The Pakis however never got the opportunity to measure the richards of Indians. However when GUBO of Pakis start in earnest, well they may get an opportunity. The measurement will then be in decibel of Urdu!

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 01 Oct 2012 16:42

now which one of you baniya made this offer

Pakistan railways: Contrasting views of Indian engines

However, Daily Passengers Association President Hafiz Abdul Qayyum said the engines India was offering were too old. He said that India had bought the engines from an American company several decades ago. That company closed 26 years ago over quality concerns, he said. He said Pakistan should buy engines from a company of good repute and should not repeat the mistake of 2005. “Pakistan Railways spent a huge amount on the purchase of 69 engines from a Chinese company then, but 50 of them are not working now,” he said.

kamments below are even better

p r sharma: it is strange that daily passengers’ Association is evaluating the quality of Railway engines to be bought ‘ No mention what type of engine is offered.
For kind information – Diesel Engines for railway are manufactured in India.

simsim: It is about time we stop building tanks and subs and start building our own train engines (deisel or electric). Leveraging some of the the existing resources from the army. They got enough toys already

BruteForce: “Pakistan Railways spent a huge amount on the purchase of 69 engines from a Chinese company then, but 50 of them are not working now,”

Look at the bright side. 19 are still working. China made goods have the tendency to do worse!

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 01 Oct 2012 16:52

SSridhar wrote:Normally, Pakistani foreign ministers are Army appointees. Birkin Babe, no exception to that rule, was as well parroting the Army line. So, from where did she get the courage, if that was why the PA is suddenly angry with her, to kick the ladder after climbing it ? It appears to me that the Bilawal-Birkin Babe (BBB) affair emanting from an obscure Bangladeshi newspaper is a PA-ISI planted story.

Or, is it something else which we are not seeing ?

Some reports and a couple of insiders in Twitter-o-sphere are saying that it is payback for allowing the UN observer group into Balochistan. TSPA has been very sensitive about UN ppl since the Benazir assassination "UN investigation" thing.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Oct 2012 17:27

Rangudu, thanks. But, somehow, I am unable to believe that the UN Group's visit is causing all this takleef for the PA. UN has indicted Pakistan in Afghanistan suicide bombing; Zardari invited UN investigation into BB's assassination and the UN investigators severely reprimanded the 'State within the State'. UNSC has banned several Pakistani terror organizations and individuals. All these have already dented PA's image and investigation into Balochistan is not going to cause any greater damage, IMHO. The damage will come much more from CJP Iftikhar's court orders on Balochistan.