Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 15 Oct 2012 17:25

Lalmohan wrote:but ofcourse they only mean blasphemy against islam, no others are even considered....

oh of course otherwise the entire world wil be caught in an infinite loop of blasphemy. For e.g. calling a christian or hindu infidel will be blasphemy committed against christianity or hindusm, but not calling them infidel will be blasphemy against islam. So there you go, only best way out is Islam wins. Hence only Islam is entitled to have blasphemy law. Problem solved.

nakul · Post by **nakul** » 15 Oct 2012 17:35

Dont be stupid. Islam is a religion of peace. They will punish the Musalman by making him attend sermons everyday while the infidels will be stoned to death. See, I told you Islam takes care of all peace lovers.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 15 Oct 2012 18:16

NSFW,NSFL etc
Madonna, 54, dedicates onstage striptease to Pakistani girl shot by Taliban

This Gran'MILF's latest outrage is suar to get Lalmullah's goat.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 15 Oct 2012 20:19

Lilo wrote:NSFW,NSFL etc
Madonna, 54, dedicates onstage striptease to Pakistani girl shot by Taliban
........

In a related story, 54 Talibanis shoot their bolts as they dedicate themselves to online striptease while shouting Holy Madonna!

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 15 Oct 2012 20:34

^^^ this, fortunately or unfortunately, proves the bunnies are 100% right. If you let women get educated, this is exactly what will happen. You are putting them on a slippery slope of moral degradation and the destination is Madonna. In fact, bunnies can show this video to any momeen that is not convinced...and that is proof enough....they should listen to the mullahs and the purest of the pure - the Taliban to know what the book says..

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 15 Oct 2012 21:19

Suppiah wrote:^^^ this, fortunately or unfortunately, proves the bunnies are 100% right. If you let women get educated, this is exactly what will happen. You are putting them on a slippery slope of moral degradation and the destination is Madonna. In fact, bunnies can show this video to any momeen that is not convinced...and that is proof enough....they should listen to the mullahs and the purest of the pure - the Taliban to know what the book says..

This degradation must not come to Pakistan. Pakistan should be an example to the world. How about dynamiting a girls school in Islamabad as an example? OK most of the girls can be allowed out first, provided they are properly covered and accompanied by fathers if below 3rd standard and husbands if over 4th standard

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 15 Oct 2012 21:25

Shivmulla you left out 3rd and 4th standard girls...

Mullas will of course, count to make sure not more than 4 are accompanied by same husband..

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 Oct 2012 22:08

>>The Pakistanis don't know the Readings were Jews and the hospital where the impure are getting treated was aptly built by a Yahud.

Indeed. And almost certainly a vast majority of Pakisatanis don't know that their constitution was written on the recommendations of a Jew, who was serving at the time as, get this, Director of the Department of Islamic Reconstruction of Pakistan... By now, I'm sure Paklurks are getting the feeling of a YYY conspiracy tickling their nutz, so...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Asad

Note he was given Pakistani citizenship in 1947 as soon as the state was established...

The point to be made here is that these chaps couldn't even write their own constitution without a non-Muslim holding their hands...

arun · Post by **arun** » 15 Oct 2012 22:12

Islamabad based journalist working for German Government owned broadcaster Deutsche Welle believes that cities in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan trump Kabul in game of the public display of Mohammadden piety :

Kabul doesn't even look like a very conservative place. You hear much less prayer calls from mosques than in Pakistan - or Turkey, for that matter. There are many women on the streets, most of whom cover their heads loosely with a scarf, still showing some hair. Burqas are the exception. You see more women wearing veils in the Pakistani city of Peshawar than in Kabul.

Read it all:

'Kabul is less conservative than Pakistani cities'

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 Oct 2012 22:15

Lilo wrote:NSFW,NSFL etc
Madonna, 54, dedicates onstage striptease to Pakistani girl shot by Taliban

In the West, only the intellectual and political chatterati would care about what is happening in Pakistan. No better way to grab attention of the youth and the bald men in the West and focus it onto Pakistan!

Great Work, Madonna!

On a side note, I am sure Pakis would now be shooting more Pakistani girls to see Madonna strip!

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 15 Oct 2012 22:34

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 15 Oct 2012 22:35

Basically even the horrified reactions from Pakistanis at Malala's fate, reveal very interesting aspcts of denial : [Be careful about the ads!]

By Asra Noomani :
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... point.html

I was born in India to a Muslim family, but many of my relatives moved to Pakistan after the nation was created in 1947 from the split of British India into two countries. My friend Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was murdered in Pakistan in 2002 when he was staying at a house I’d rented. I conceived a child in Pakistan while unmarried, making me a criminal according to that country’s religious laws. In the U.S., I put my son, now 9, on a school bus every morning, and I wonder how the secular dreams of Pakistan’s founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, have devolved into the targeted shooting of children on school buses.
[...]
But the challenge to the nation's collective culture of denial is a deeper one that requires intense soul searching: can the nation accept that the men who stepped onto the school bus, intent on killing Malala, are the sons of Pakistan? What's more, these men are the Muslim sons of Pakistan, practicing, yes, an interpretation of Islam that many of us reject but that exists and thrives.

Shirin Tahir-kheli writes :
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... oblem.html

Countries like Saudi Arabia can no longer shrug off their influence over the Taliban. Saudi financial support for Taliban mullahs and mosques is funding the Taliban war on women in Pakistan. The argument that support for the Taliban is not state-sanctioned by the Saudis but merely a spinoff of private donations by rich Saudis is simply not good enough.

Concerned outsiders such as the United States can make the case, but in the end it is the business of the Pakistani government and its military to call for transparency and accountability in alms coming from outside. There is sufficient coordination between the governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan whereby this domestic implication of Saudi largesse needs addressing.

But she also writes:

All this is done in the name of Islam: religion is a scapegoat for the uninformed, backward males who believe that they are the true guardians of a Pakistan created in the name of religion.

The Islam I know has exhorted its followers to enable both men and women to strive for knowledge. It called upon males and females to do good work and to reap the rewards equally. The Quran admonished as evildoers the perpetrators of the practice where girls were buried at birth. There are a number of orders in the Quran and the Hadith that call for the education of both men and women, noting that “acquisition of knowledge is the duty of every male and female believer.”

Both have their fundamental delusions - preventing them from acknowledging the real problem, as much as they exhort others to acknowledge the "real problem". One thinks "Jinnah" dreamt of "secularism" and the other tries to represent the theology as "liberal" by selectively quoting from texts. Neither faces up to the priority list of Islam - where, violent and sadistic physical repression and coercion is the keynote with which to impose a primitive lifestyle of looting of biological necessities, and physical exploitation of desired bodies, be it women, girls or boys [under the genderless - houri model - but then how are genderless "virgins"?]. All else takes a back seat when these fundamental objectives come into conflict with all else.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 15 Oct 2012 23:09

^^^United State of Islam? isn't that supposed to be United States of Islam? if you have only state, isn't it in one piece already to begin with? what is the need for unity in one single state of Islam? or is it the RoP's circuitous way of acknowledging that in that one state there are many shades of green and that they are not united, so, they want to bring in unity among different green shades of pseudo united ummah state?, anyway who cares!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 15 Oct 2012 23:29

harbans wrote:
My only disagreement with him stems from the fact that he really should be telling Pakistanis to become more like the Taliban and to stop objecting to Taliban methods because they are pure Islam.
He is doing that. It's almost in every para.

""If you’re acknowledging Islam as the supreme authority, you have no grounds for hauling coals over Zia-ul-Haq for implementing laws from the Shariah, you have no grounds for attacking Mumtaz Qadri or feeling sorry for Salmaan Taseer who clearly spoke against the blasphemy law, you have no grounds for lauding Dr Abdul Salaam as a national asset who belonged to a sect that clearly defies Islamic teachings, and yes, you have no grounds for blaming the Taliban.

It’s time our ‘thinkers’ stopped taking the easy way out and finally picked a side. You either follow a religion in its true form or you’re irreligious. The Taliban know which side they are on. Do you?""

harbans wrote:^ Amazing really for a Pakistani to write that. It's very well written and many here have known this for long. I admire this guy, his respect for the Truth stands out, even if it means heartache in acknowledging that violent streak within his ideology. That is the bravery that Dharma admires, protects and leads ultimately to the real supreme Absolute Truth itself. I don't know if the article will lead to more self introspection or quadrification. He has not blasphemed in an Islamic sense. HE has not provoked the Tliban/ AQ/ Islamist ideology. He just said what i and many others have said..that the pure in an Islamic state want to be purer. It's in their charter and they are demanding it all the time, some violently some by other means. It is the doctrine always..i keep repeating that all the time.

There is nothing to admire in what this gentleman wrote.

All he is saying is that the Munafiqs do not have any right to criticize Taliban who are living pious lives. The author used Paki/WKK approach to putting those thoughts and it appear liberal.

There is no opportunity or need for self-introspection in Islam. Self-introspection by a muslim is oxymoron. They will be blashpemers and are required to be stoned to death.

I strongly suggest BRF members do not indulge the blasphemors from Pakistan, because it would disturb the fragile peace between the two great ancient nations.

Pakistan is a state created for Muslims, by Muslims under the Islamic umbrella. All its problems are because of lack of purity in their Islamic faith.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 15 Oct 2012 23:37

Apparently there were protests and marches supporting malala and condemning Taliban held in .... Thane and Lucknow

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 15 Oct 2012 23:50

Welcome back, Major!

http://goatdroppingsofwisdom.wordpress. ... blasphemy/

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 16 Oct 2012 00:12

^^AoA the major's back. Already see a couple of new gems on the new blog.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 Oct 2012 01:29

Nandu wrote:Welcome back, Major!
http://goatdroppingsofwisdom.wordpress. ... blasphemy/

He is technically wrong. BB went to Radcliffe College not becuase she was woman but to learn to become one.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 Oct 2012 01:33

World's Number one Wonder: Brain-eating amoeba
http://dawn.com/2012/10/15/brain-eating ... -measures/

YET another person succumbed to the ‘brain-eating amoeba’ recently. This is a parasite known as naegleria. It lives in warm, freshwater of lakes, rivers and hot springs.Our domestic water supply is derived from lakes and is not chlorinated adequately.The amoeba infects by travelling up the nose to the brain where it destroys brain tissue. Infection does not occur from drinking water or through the skin from bathing. Neither can it be transmitted from swimming pools that have been properly chlorinated.

(: preventive measures= Convert )

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 16 Oct 2012 01:52

Chlorine is haraam. Cl is short for chlorine and this was deliberately chosen by the crusaders because Cl actually means Christ Lord. This is haraam. Chlorine should be banned in Bakistan and all traces of Chlorine should be removed from Bakistan including from Bakistanese text books being read by Bakistanese students. More power to Amoeba so that it discovers the real Mastermind Bakistan. The Jamaat u Duggays have announced that any Abdul who survives for more than a second after nasally drinking Amoeba infected water would be crowned Mastermind Bakistan

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 16 Oct 2012 01:55

Just had a mental image of a pac-man like game consisting of an amoeba like organism eating Paki-brain. Surely must be shortest game ever created. Game over even before it begins.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 16 Oct 2012 02:01

Jhujar wrote: World's Number one Wonder: Brain-eating amoeba
http://dawn.com/2012/10/15/brain-eating ... -measures/

YET another person succumbed to the ‘brain-eating amoeba’ recently. This is a parasite known as naegleria. It lives in warm, freshwater of lakes, rivers and hot springs.Our domestic water supply is derived from lakes and is not chlorinated adequately.The amoeba infects by travelling up the nose to the brain where it destroys brain tissue. Infection does not occur from drinking water or through the skin from bathing. Neither can it be transmitted from swimming pools that have been properly chlorinated.
(: preventive measures= Convert )

Yes, really interesting spin on this. The practice of sending a little water up the nose is specifically during wudhu/wuzu before salat/namaz, per the Hanafi madhhab style. Blowing or cleaning one's nose generally doesn't involve "snorting" a little water some way up the nostrils. But this specific practice during wuzu does that.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Oct 2012 02:12

nakul wrote:Dont be stupid. Islam is a religion of peace. They will punish the Musalman by making him attend sermons everyday while the infidels will be stoned to death. See, I told you Islam takes care of all peace lovers.

And killing of one human being is equal to killing of whole humanity. Thus prophet killed the humanity many times over within his life time itself.

More over, not just killing, but hurting one's feeling also is same as killing them heart-wise so same as killing whole humanity.

A bunch of a*holes.

*rabic-w

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 Oct 2012 02:29

Back to Jannaatt E Laanatt

72 Pakistanis deported from Greece

RAW AL PINDI: As many as 72 Pakistanis deported from Greece over illegal stay and incomplete documents arrived back on Thursday. According to details, 72 Pakistan is who were deported by Greek authorities landed at BJ International Airport through a private airline and were taken into custody by Federal Investigation Agency (FIA). app

Aaaj Hai begum, Kal thi Behna
Paki kaun Hai, Kaffir Kaun Hai
Jannat Kiss Ke Nerre!!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Oct 2012 02:31

brihaspati wrote:Basically even the horrified reactions from Pakistanis at Malala's fate, reveal very interesting aspcts of denial : [Be careful about the ads!]

By Asra Noomani :
All this is done in the name of Islam: religion is a scapegoat for the uninformed, backward males who believe that they are the true guardians of a Pakistan created in the name of religion.

The Islam I know has exhorted its followers to enable both men and women to strive for knowledge. It called upon males and females to do good work and to reap the rewards equally. The Quran admonished as evildoers the perpetrators of the practice where girls were buried at birth. There are a number of orders in the Quran and the Hadith that call for the education of both men and women, noting that “acquisition of knowledge is the duty of every male and female believer.”

Bji,

She is the author of two books, Standing Alone in Mecca: An American Woman's Struggle for the Soul of Islam and Tantrika: Traveling the Road of Divine Love. She is also the author of numerous articles including "Islamic Bill of Rights for Women in the Bedroom", the "Islamic Bill of Rights for Women in the Mosque", and "99 Precepts for Opening Hearts, Minds and Doors in the Muslim World".

You can see the problem here. Islamic Bill of Rights for this and that. She cant come out of that bondage even after going thru Tantrika pursuit.

I have seen this mindset in other educated Islamic women.

I seriously doubt if female-educate really leads to progress in Islamic society. I strongly think that Islam doesn't distinguish between an asuric male or female.

This is just another "hope" by a little less deracinated dhimmi.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Oct 2012 02:34

venug wrote:^^^United State of Islam? isn't that supposed to be United States of Islam? if you have only state, isn't it in one piece already to begin with? what is the need for unity in one single state of Islam? or is it the RoP's circuitous way of acknowledging that in that one state there are many shades of green and that they are not united, so, they want to bring in unity among different green shades of pseudo united ummah state?, anyway who cares!

They "are told" that the current many nation-states of Islam is Taquiya/Tawariya onlee and once entire humanity converts into Islam, they will have a single Ummah onlee.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Oct 2012 02:50

BTW, she led Daniel Pearl to his death. So she was an asuric Tataki!

Even his murder has not made her change her views.

Her job is to soothe the Western liberals there are moderate enlightened women in Islam.
Sure they are like Surapanaka who appeared enlightened and moderate and showed her true nature when she was rejected.

She should call herself Venus Flytrap!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 Oct 2012 03:32

Dying from Starvation, Brain Eating Amoeba Apologize!! DJinns set me Astray!!It was Mistake to Come to Pakistan:

Warning For Brain Eating Amoeba to Stay away

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 Oct 2012 03:33

Dupe Strike !!

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 16 Oct 2012 04:20

@RamaY^^^ re Asra Nomani. You may be a bit harsh on her. She's never going to be a BRFite. However, to the extent she succeeds in empowering women, she is a very useful tool against the fulminating mullahs.

Let me give you an example:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat ... story.html

Any sign of Islamic wimmenz breaking out of the paddock (bedroom or otherwise) creates panic in the islamic male society and the foundations (call it the edifice complex) of political islam start to crumble.

She can be the Arundhati of the islamic world and they deserve her.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 16 Oct 2012 04:24

Jhujar wrote:Dying from Starvation, Brain Eating Amoeba Apologize!! DJinns set me Astray!!It was Mistake to Come to Pakistan:

Warning For Brain Eating Amoeba to Stay away

Dunno about the pakis --they have no brain to eat. However, there is a clear and present danger from an age old practice especially to Indians:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/0 ... t-warning/

Out with the neti and in with bottled sterile saline or, boiled and cooled 7%

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Oct 2012 04:51

Cosmoji

IMhO it is just a hope.

Look at this way. All her efforts are to get some maneuvering space within the construct of Islam. As long as she gets some space within Islam, she is fine with it. It doesn't matter for her (at least at this point) how Islamic society behaves with non-Muslims.

Let us assume her wishes came true. How would it chance the behavior of Islam with non-Muslims? One may claim that, it would be version2. If version1 took this long and when will v2 be released. Why should the non-Muslim humanity pay the price for her nonsense?

I have seen few Muslim women up close. My experiences made me very disillusioned. I posted the tale of two women in one of these threads.

There will never be a Aroy in Islam. She will be killed before she can spell her name.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Oct 2012 05:06

Jhujar wrote:
Nandu wrote:Welcome back, Major!
http://goatdroppingsofwisdom.wordpress. ... blasphemy/
He is technically wrong. BB went to Radcliffe College not becuase she was woman but to learn to become one.

Also to have fun in swim suits.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 16 Oct 2012 05:25

RamaY wrote:Cosmoji

IMhO it is just a hope.

Look at this way. All her efforts are to get some maneuvering space within the construct of Islam. As long as she gets some space within Islam, she is fine with it. It doesn't matter for her (at least at this point) how Islamic society behaves with non-Muslims.

Let us assume her wishes came true. How would it chance the behavior of Islam with non-Muslims? One may claim that, it would be version2. If version1 took this long and when will v2 be released. Why should the non-Muslim humanity pay the price for her nonsense?

I have seen few Muslim women up close. My experiences made me very disillusioned. I posted the tale of two women in one of these threads.

There will never be a Aroy in Islam. She will be killed before she can spell her name.

They did try --even publishing her address in WV, on the web in a column in the Daily News after Pearl was killed.

Don't get me wrong. I am not a fan of 'moderate islam', it doesn't exist but Google what she tried to do in WV with mosque and survived.

Muslim wimmenz are no friends of any other religion but if they start to rebel (even given the Malala shooting), things are not going to go all XOXO for the mullahdom. All you need is a lot more Ayan Hirsis and you have a crack in the gates of Mordor.

There is no one way to defeat this evil, all possible means must be tried.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 16 Oct 2012 05:44

Cosmo_R wrote:
Muslim wimmenz are no friends of any other religion but if they start to rebel (even given the Malala shooting), things are not going to go all XOXO for the mullahdom. All you need is a lot more Ayan Hirsis and you have a crack in the gates of Mordor.

There is no one way to defeat this evil, all possible means must be tried.

You Islamophobe! I will report you to whoever wants that report from me. Islam is fair to women and has a code for their behavior. Only Islam recognises the true value of women. You want them to turn into Madonnas? I would not wish this for my worst enemy, so I do not wish this for Pakistan.

Pakistan was set up as an Islamic state. It should remain true to Islam. Currently only the Taliban are anywhere near being good Muslims. Do they not cite the Quran for everything they do?

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 05:55

From the DW link posted earlier...

Despite the bloodshed, all the Afghans I met were fiercely nationalistic. They are against breaking up the country along ethnic lines

by the fact that the country has stayed one piece despite so many troubles, in a way far more stable than TSP.

What that means is also significant..

When push comes to shove, it will be the Pashtun areas of TSP that will join Afghanistan making it bigger, stronger and with more natural and ethnically sensible borders, than the other way around...ie TSP forming some sort of union with Pashtun areas of Afghan and the northern areas breaking away....

Only there has to be pushes and shoves on the part of international community...because that would solve so many issues and end the war on terror forever in that part of world. Naturally Balochistan would go free as well in that circumstance.

The trouble with GOI pushing for it is that rump TSP which will primarily be Sind+Pakjab will then push for merger with India and dump millions of fanatic barbaric terrorist animals into India...

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 16 Oct 2012 05:58

shiv wrote:
Cosmo_R wrote:
Muslim wimmenz are no friends of any other religion but if they start to rebel (even given the Malala shooting), things are not going to go all XOXO for the mullahdom. All you need is a lot more Ayan Hirsis and you have a crack in the gates of Mordor.

There is no one way to defeat this evil, all possible means must be tried.
You Islamophobe! I will report you to whoever wants that report from me. Islam is fair to women and has a code for their behavior. Only Islam recognises the true value of women. You want them to turn into Madonnas? I would not wish this for my worst enemy, so I do not wish this for Pakistan.

Pakistan was set up as an Islamic state. It should remain true to Islam. Currently only the Taliban are anywhere near being good Muslims. Do they not cite the Quran for everything they do?

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 16 Oct 2012 05:59

Nandu wrote:Welcome back, Major!

http://goatdroppingsofwisdom.wordpress. ... blasphemy/

Sorry for being noob but who is this major?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 16 Oct 2012 06:08

Some random fellow, probably ISI sponsored that the pakis celebrate as brave, courageous ityadi.

Like countless others I am sure he will also show his true colors in due time.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 16 Oct 2012 06:21

Suppiah wrote:
Nandu wrote:Welcome back, Major!

http://goatdroppingsofwisdom.wordpress. ... blasphemy/
Sorry for being noob but who is this major?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/world ... worry.html